Before anyone else comments about flat fingers, check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/an2XyMqadJPTlqg.html

@Mad5cout

5 жыл бұрын

Keeping your fingers curved has nothing to do with damaging the valve casing as the video you link here might suggest. Perhaps, people have said that to you but they would be wrong. It has to do with muscle structure the fact that flattening out your fingers puts tension in all the muscles in your hand, which slows you down. This is why around the 7 min mark when you start to play faster passages you can hear a misalignment between your articulation and your valve depression. If you curve your fingers, your hands would be more relaxed, and you could play these passages faster/in time.

@aryanohri9135

5 жыл бұрын

I played with flat fingers until I started marching with Blue Devils B this year. I got roasted at auditions. The only main thing is that it dose not look as good, but in a concert setting, it dose not really matter.

@billyt8868

4 жыл бұрын

can’t really use yourself as a source to justify why you play wrong.

@merp4377

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao I was about to mention that

@Mad5cout

2 жыл бұрын

@@GNMi79 yeah no. Halve-valving properly is simply muscle memory no matter which way you play. Yet, playing with your knuckles is antithetical to the ergonimics of your hand. There is literally no upside to playing flat fingers. It's just lazy. Plenty of jazz players who half-valve just fine playing with proper hand position.

I cannot imagine a conductor saying, "OK, plastics, let's take it from Letter H."

@nickdryad

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Excuse plastic section. I’m struggling to read the score today because I left my plastics at home.

Sounds pretty good for not being brass and being plastic.

@RooseveltAliWashingtonX

4 жыл бұрын

My sentiments as well!

@F0nkyNinja

4 жыл бұрын

i like ur profile pic

@whukriede

3 жыл бұрын

But only with the metal mouth piece.

You should do a plastic clarinet review Oh wait

@timeshifter105

4 жыл бұрын

HACKERZWAZHERE LOL But some are wood

@lennytapez

4 жыл бұрын

U really got a sneak diss us like that

@serenacat7890

4 жыл бұрын

Timeshifter 10 maybe because is part of the woodwind family?

@timeshifter105

4 жыл бұрын

MosterTheSniper Ik but he’s referring to the plastic ones

@pugwhisperer6502

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe you should GO TO BED

he stats playing at 6:03

@sheero8983

6 жыл бұрын

thx

@hermance673

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@DaneLMusic

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@theeverythingchannel5457

6 жыл бұрын

Marwa Saidjamol starts*

@michaelcollins4062

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

I swear it's always second valve.

@sebastianrincon2773

5 жыл бұрын

Its flat in the music the little b means flat

@tobiaslidstromstre2392

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@hirokokueh3541

4 жыл бұрын

probably because most people's middle finger is longer, so the force pressing on the valve is on different direction

@crisponthedot3106

4 жыл бұрын

I KNOWWWE

@quinna.524

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Olaivar for me it’s always first

why does he sound better than me with a plastic trumpet

@horaciosalgado7228

5 жыл бұрын

who cares

@pyrocinyicalisleafysdaught3177

5 жыл бұрын

CaUSe Ur bAd

@uscg_law5073

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah you must be bad at producing tone work on air and embochure

@ObliviAce

5 жыл бұрын

Because he is a veteran in brass instrument

@dalecosby2261

4 жыл бұрын

Same reason Bryce Harper can hit better than I can even when he uses a t-ball bat.

Im a drummer, and for some reason, these videos are so fun to watch. Maybe its his accent but idk 😂

@alexiaalexia1655

7 жыл бұрын

Nate Vos im a clairnet player and i might get to move to the saxophone

@jacobpotts7954

6 жыл бұрын

Nate Vos ik

@electricangel849

6 жыл бұрын

Same and I'm a French horn player

@aidanherold8949

6 жыл бұрын

Nate Vos same

@doomjuan

6 жыл бұрын

Nate Vos I’m a trombone player and I might play the trumpet

Our lead trombone broke his arm at the start of this school year, and as his arm has healed, he's been able to play the p-bone, as it is a far lighter instrument, so the weight is a benefit. The other benefit I can see to these instruments is their capabilities in very cold weather; A few years back, our pep band played in 10 degree weather, and metal valves/slides were freezing. The plastic was still movable, however. So, from my experience, there are some niche places that these would be utilizable.

@danielbrisk2884

5 жыл бұрын

(Only my opinion) Plastic valves versus plastic slides: much more mechanics in the piston valve

@pianofry1138

5 жыл бұрын

Holy crap your director let you play with plastic

@jojoprocess2820

5 жыл бұрын

@@pianofry1138 Well it was either that or have no lead trombone

@ThemeParkBeast98

4 жыл бұрын

Another benefit is sports stadiums that don't let metal in.

@princff.

4 жыл бұрын

we played in about 15 degree weather and some people's lips froze to their mouthpiece

It took me 5 weeks to find a ACTUAL plastic trumpet review because it seems that whoever makes these trumpets and making famous trumpet players give fake reviews THANK YOU

my granddaughter has set her heart on a blue trumpet so your review was really helpful and as she was born hypoxic and is a little weak on one side after listening to your review i feel more confident to buy one as she is only 8 and going to start lessons this will be lighter for her also i will be getting the metal mouth piece . you have the best review i have seen so far . Thanks Margaret Barnett.

Dude, for a professed trombone/baritone player, you're one hell of a trumpet player! I've been playing for 20+ years and you're playing Arbans quite well.

I have this horn. Picked up a black one from music and arts for 50 bucks. It’s a lot of fun to play. It does leak out of the tuning slide and out of the mouthpiece but it’s not a big deal. It comes with a nice gig bag a stand and a cleaning kit and the two mouthpieces are adequate. If you clean the valves and oil them they work great.

I dont know how this ended up on my page and I know nothing about musical instruments but I must say that it is wonderful to listen to someone review trumpets in extreme detail. Great channel, got yourself another sub, cheers!

I appreciate the effort you put into the videos even for such entry level products...

I thought it would sound like a toy but it has a pretty decent sound for being plastic

Bro, you are awesome! I could listen to you talk about anything all day!

But does it djent

@sascharambeaud1609

7 жыл бұрын

No, that's actually one of the major points in favor of these plastic instruments. I can have my kids (ages 7 and less) fool around with my Tromba, which is something I'd never allow unsupervised with a brass instrument.

@lizardtoung

7 жыл бұрын

you missed the joke

@robellio6190

7 жыл бұрын

Sascha Rambeaud you dodged that point like you were in the matrix

@jakemarrotta1352

7 жыл бұрын

Ghetto Fabulous oh my god! I've never seen so many people have a joke go over their head. We need more metal heads

@oaktwig

7 жыл бұрын

That, sir, is the question we need to be asking more and more.

It sounds to me like this would be a great instrument to practice on. If it's so hard to play well, then imagine how much easier your proper metal trumpet will feel in comparison! I noticed a similar thing when I switched from tuba back to trumpet. The tuba requires so much more air and control, that it required me to improve beyond the point where I had otherwise plateaued with my trumpet skills, and I could feel that improvement when I switched back to playing trumpet.

Nice quality! I really love your vids and think that you deserver more subscribers. Keep up the good work

being a music fanatic myself, watching your channel is quite intriguing. so many things I've never seen before! keep it goin, Trent.

You are one of my only people who give me advice and knowledge on my music skill

Trent, perhaps your issue with the valves extends from the fact that your right hand is incorrectly placed on the instrument; your right thumb should be either resting on the lead-pipe or in between the first and second valve casings (below the lead-pipe) and your fingertips should be on the valves.

@nikoterangiita9571

5 жыл бұрын

@@JoCE2305 yea me too, that was my main problem I had learning

Trent you nailed it, the most important how plastic compare to brass trumpet and environment to use this trumpet, very useful info.

I can appreciate any talent in any musical instruments deffo, and good effort for it all. Its just at 1am and late nights for some reason i end up looking at such random videos and no idea why? I looked at a chap serenading cows with his trumpet last night and believe this is why your video is suggested. Big props for playing m8 :)

Elementary School: One of the harshest and most damaging environments for brass instruments.

Why do you play with your fingers straight? My teacher always told me to put them curved so my fingers went faster.

@nivlick

7 жыл бұрын

Jacob Trump each to their own I taught my self to play piano trumpet and sax entered many comps and won a few.

@erikaluckz1219

7 жыл бұрын

nivlick I've been meaning to play the piano and the saxophone. But I know nothing of playing the saxophone. But is it similar to playing the trumpet? What are the differences? Please let me know.

@tayloeisthebongolord8992

7 жыл бұрын

Erika Lucks you use more than 3 of your fingers. You don't have a mouthpiece like that of a trumpet and you need reeds. It's actually very different

@nyctinus6859

7 жыл бұрын

Saxophone is in the woodwind family and is best compared to clarinet. Trumpet is part of the brass family and is very different instrument.

@georgeb.wolffsohn30

5 жыл бұрын

In his vid comparing euphonium with baritone horn he plays with proper finger technic.

Was anyone shook by how he had straight fingers lol

@dedude6784

5 жыл бұрын

Flat fingers my guy

@WIP3002

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and he put his finger in the little hook thing

@ColinMroczko

4 жыл бұрын

Elite Films44 who cares. Doesn’t really matter how you hold it.

@dame-e-in1258

4 жыл бұрын

Elite Films44 That’s kinda what the hook is for what you mean

@commiespy4908

4 жыл бұрын

@@ColinMroczko You're supposed to angle your fingers facing directly down so you don't scrap the valve casing.

Why so much flat fingers

@cdgonepotatoes4219

6 жыл бұрын

some find it more comfortable, it can bring issues where you don't fully open the piston as there's just more of the hand's weight on it but it's better than having your hands cramped, that counts specially for people with relatively large hands and a fairly flat natural resting pose of the hand.

@ImAllergicToSkin

6 жыл бұрын

Some people find it more comfortable to play like that and some people play faster with the fingers like that or they might’ve been taught to play like that

@Chriss_Fishes

5 жыл бұрын

Well, I know that for me, playing a trumpet with curved fingers just isn't comfortable. I'm a euphonium/bass trombone player, and even some smaller baritones/euphs/trombones can be cramped for my hands, just due to how long they happen to be. When I play trumpet (well, flugel) I usually end up playing with flat fingers, or, if I need a bit more speed, I do some weird hand position that allows me to rest my fingertips on the valve caps. Whatever works. IMO, everyone should start with the basic recommended technique. That includes hand positions, posture, embouchure details, and air. But, once the student reaches an intermediate level, they'll find what works for them. Most trumpet professors would take one look at my trumpet embouchure and have a heart attack. Yet, I get good sound, can support the entire range of the instrument up to about a high D, and it serves me well. I've probably picked up some "bad" habits on euphonium and trombone as well, yet I have zero noticeable issues with my technique and sound.

@tristinsean7222

5 жыл бұрын

Because... *🅱️FLAT*

@fettisilver4312

4 жыл бұрын

Coz he felt like it

Good review. Not just an unboxing video. The reviewer clearly has experience with brass instruments (and plastic ones too).

Great Review

Trent, I enjoy your videos and I have learned a lot from them. This video is one of many I watched as I researched the next trumpet I would buy, and based on a preponderance of positive reviews I bought a Tromba trumpet in August and I love it. I am now playing in an orchestra and a band and a brass quintet. Last week, the director of the quintet, who plays a brass trumpet said he is a traditionalist and isn't sure about the plastic horns but that mine sounds pretty good. I use metal mouthpieces with mine, usually to Connstellation mouthpiece I used in high school. I have never had a leak at the mouthpiece. I very rarely need to oil the valves and find them just right to use using the springs that were installed when I received it. I am playing notes on the Tromba that are higher than I ever reached on any other horn and I can get to lower notes than I ever have before. I was born with spina bifida, have suffered several neck injuries and have several bad disks in my back, and have had my right shoulder injured several times. Holding a metal trumpet for more than a few minutes would be very painful. The light weight of the Tromba is a huge benefit to me.

@TrentHamilton

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, thanks for your comment and the time you took to write :) Much appreciated.

Fantastic trumpeter Master Trent Hamilton.

Doesn't sound as bad as I expected it to.

If you used the right finger placement and C shape in your playing hand and got your pinkie out of the ring your fingers would not get tired as fast or even at all.

Good video. As an adult, I bought one of these to use as a learning tool, and as such it is ideal - not too expensive, gives an idea of what playing a trumpet can be like, and has allowed me to get up and running. Mine had none of the defects mentioned in the video, but I guess they are fairly inconsistent when they roll off the production lines. I have yet to buy a proper trumpet, but went through a similar process with trombone, started on a pBone then bought a good quality metal instrument. Once that switch is made, there is no going back, and I expect the same for the trumpet. It was heartening to hear that even an accomplished player considered it difficult to play, so my reasoning for now is that if I can make a plastic trumpet sound good, it bodes well when I eventually get a good instrument.

Thank you Trent for showing me the plastic trumpet I was interested in purchasing one but seeing what you have shown me, I would have too much of a problem playing this instrument since I am recovering from a stroke and can't produce the amount of air needed that had to produce when I played using my standard silver King trumpet.

Trent, I am so happy to announce that you have inspired me to get a soprano trombone xD it's so much fun and I owe it all to you

@TrentHamilton

7 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear. I'm glad you like it :)

@whitewolf749

6 жыл бұрын

Nate get soprano sax #WOODWINDARMY

@Valcat_123

6 жыл бұрын

Nate welcome to the family mate

@gideon1041

6 жыл бұрын

I saw you in lucky chops video commenting

@BelloBruh

6 жыл бұрын

Nate I always see you in the comment section on lucky chops video s

You make it sound so good. I got the Lade, and am working on the scales now. It's all brass, and the only problem I have is the quick collection of spittal, and use the spit key often to blow it out.

superb bro

At my high school's band camp, one of the instructors was a professional trumpet player. Needless to say, he had a very nice horn. He bought one of these (silver-colored finish) to take outside with him so he wasn't marching with his professional horn. I think that's one of the best uses for these plastic instruments. Not only do you not have to worry about your instrument being injured, but when it's cold, you aren't playing on a cold horn.

@hunteralexander9791

8 жыл бұрын

Just don't use it for performances

@TheTangyGoatCheese

7 жыл бұрын

He shouldve just bought a pre owned ytr 2335 or similar student horn

@MasonAtha

7 жыл бұрын

TangyGoatCheese I think plastic horns are actually great for marching. You won't ever get the same tone as with brass, but you don't have to worry about temperature or water damage. They're also lighter. I wouldn't recommend them for soloists or anything, but they're great for stands or pep band where you're in a close proximity with the next person.

I am just subscribing because you sound talented and I figure hey this guy deserves to be KZread Famous.

It actually sounded better than i had previously thought!

I bought one of these for my son to start playing on. They must have changed the manufacturing process. No leaks and I could smack out a top G (above top C) without difficulty using the plastic mouthpieces. It's no Schilke or a Bach Strad but for the money it's a bomb proof beginner instrument.

As I've mentioned earlier, my prime instrument is a Benge 8z cornet (velvet) and I have a Tromba trumpet and cornet (canvas), though I use a Denis Wick 2 on the latter and a Bach 1C mouthpiece on the former. I teach young kids and we also march around and I also use the Trombas as travel horns and even at jam sessions sometimes, though I don't think I'd record with them. The critical difference in terms of control, playing ease and intonation is, as you say to use a quality metal mouthpiece and, as you also say, as beginning or supplemental "knock-around" horns I think they do a good job.

Thank you. You have just saved me a bundle of money.

Hai Trent hope you one day can present the tiger TUBA in plastic or one similar since you are a big brass player

@TrentHamilton

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Ted, I often get asked about Tiger instruments, but I don't have someone I can borrow one from, and I can't justify spending money on them.

@sippel2009

7 жыл бұрын

Trent Hamilton my repair guy refuses to sell tiger brand instruments because they're so unreliable. With our dramatic temperature swings in Canada, the expansion and contraction of the materials make the valves bind.

I own one of these in bright metallic blue and silver finish as a kind of fun colorful side instrument,etc. Of course I use my metal mouthpiece on it and actually played it on a tune in a show I was doing in Las Vegas. Also it helps to play the mouthpiece you're used to of course, yes the plastic mouthpieces it comes with kind of suck,heh. Playing mine tho It was in tune and played fine. It takes your favorite valve oil and slide grease. Mine doesn't leak, neither water nor air. My only peeve was originally they had sent me a red one which I had broken one of the little pegs on the top of the 1st valve casing. Had to carefully super glue it back on and be careful not to engage taking the valve in/out too often/much. I was able to turn it in to the company at a music trade show which they had already sent me the new blue one,etc. This is a fun alternative I think for young students in elementary school band and of course for guys like me who like to have fun on stage,etc. :)

I am a trumpet player and just loved this tutorial!!! I could certainly tell the difference with the metal mouthpiece!! This instrument would be very good for a beginning student!! (with a metal mouthpiece)....you are making me think about buying one and I already have 3 REAL ones.....lol

Here's the next two you should do: Cool Wind CPT-200 Plastic Bb/A Piccolo Trumpet and the Tromba TF-BL Pro Professional Plastic Bb Flugelhorn

take the smaller springs and stretch them out

@DancingSpiderman

7 жыл бұрын

Andrew Devall That's what i used to do on my Corn trumpet...

@Rikhardi

7 жыл бұрын

it doesnt make it stronger only longer

@lilbigrigw9904

7 жыл бұрын

Dancing Spiderman what's a corn trumpet

@rafaelmonteirorodrigues4672

7 жыл бұрын

HD o ICEBOUND Hooke's law

Sounds good. I like it

Dayum you did good

Thank you

You are a very good player and reviewer

It actually sounds really good!

6:00 is wen he play

Saw a plastic trombone at a brass band Christmas event. And thought wow how does it keep it tune when it warms up.

I've been wanting one because of the color,I see them at Easy Music in Honolulu. I once had a student Model,but my instrument is drums.

I was so incredibly happy to get my Bach Strad back after playing one of these for a few years!! The Tromba is very difficult to play comparably. Not very efficient.

Question: Since it's "more difficult to play", would it be a good practice-instrument to improve technique? And then it will be much easier for a beginner to move to a metal trumpet later?

nice video ben brode

Sounds alot better than I thought it would you can hear the blow by leaks

Do you think you could do more videos on the Euphonium? I play that and I rarely see any videos on KZread about them

This guy just said they lubed the instrument with KY 😂

@thefattony2011

4 жыл бұрын

my god i was lmao when he said it

@davyjones611

3 жыл бұрын

Getting funky in here

Lovely

The metal mouthpiece made a pretty obvious difference to me. This guy does good reviews from what I've seen, he gives the sort of advice that actually helps you make informed decisions on this sort of thing.

I played a tiger plastic trumpet before, it was pretty cool

Keel Row and Bonnie Dundee are a few of my favourite tunes.

I play the French Horn and the Mellophone, but I want to learn to play the trumpet. Most of the fingerings are the same, and it would be cool to learn. Great Video!!!

First time listening to him play, wow

You made that look easy.

You mention this is better than a similarly priced metal instrument. I honestly don't have anything to compare to, but a few years ago I picked up an eTude brand trumpet for about $100 US (maybe an ETR-100, not sure how to check). It's been a very good instrument, and the only "problem" I can notice is maybe that the 3rd valve tuning slide is kind of wobbly if you try to wobble it. It's not noticable to me while playing though

Love how it took him literally half the video to start playing the instrument

Maybe the softer springs will work better once the valves have broken in?

I'll take it, I really like my C trumpet version and plays in tune

I wish I had seen this before I ordered a plastic flugelhorn, I used to play with a local fanfare where I hired my metal flugelhorn. But I quit because of moving and I thought I'd buy a plastic flugelhorn to be able to play a bit to retain the skill. It hasn't yet arrived but I hope I made the correct choice.

I have a brass one I been playing this instument for 3 years

Love that Kiwi voice!

this guy is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With the plastic mouthpiece. The sound from the trumpet sounded pretty "plastickykkykyky" But with the metal one sounds way more brighter and better

i recently examined one of these and they are a plastic version of a mid 60s conn director. . if you cruise ebay you can buy a good shape conn director trumpet or cornet for about the same money as this plastic knock off sells for. i agree this horn has it's place like in cold climates . they stay in tune in about any weather. they may be a one or two year wonder throw away horn. it does not take much damage to a brass horn to exceed $180 in serious repairs from marching field accidents

I'm no trumpeter, I'm a drummer and a percussionist but I just want to learn trumpet for the hell of it and I think that seems good enough for me to get started

Man, i sure could have used that in middle school back in the day. Years of lugging my case on the school bus. It seems like a good starter for kids. Keep the brass at school & plastic at home. At least its good to strengthen the lips. My high school director would have shot me if I dared to bring that to class though!

you are one of the few people to denounce this instrument. most others seem to be paid to compliment the intunation​ and clarity

Glad to see an intellectually honest review for once. I get so tired of people very famous people blowing sunshine up our rears about these! People make these sound like the Messiah of trumpets rendered in plastic shaped like a trumpet! Glad the price has come down all of these plastic trumpets had a much higher price tag while I was in High School which I thought was insane! Especially when Warburton started selling them! Could you imagine a plastic Tuba???LOL I also hear you can not use industry standard valve oils on many of these plastic trumpets.

I broke my trumpet from my 3rd valve tuning slide cracking and the 2 nd valve is so stuck that it isn't going to come out ever

I suppose it is intended for children's/school bands where parents may not want to buy a good bit of brass while there is still a good chance it won't be cared for very well. I can see myself obtaining a couple of them for a junior cadet band to use as a training instrument before letting them loose on a good bit of brass.

ive been playing trumpet for about 7 years and over that time countless amounts of trumpet pros have seen me play with my fingers being stiff and that pressing down on the valves is a more professional way and the correct way of playing it, This mans is playing the trumpet really well but pressing down on the valves would not only look better, it would increase the speed and articulation of the notes. all in all it sounds great for a plastic trumpet i personally use a standard Bb bach all brass body and titanium valves with a gold plated 7C mouthpiece, works and sounds great

I bought pTrumpet not Tromba, and there was problem with sticky valves. Valves were from plastic and the water inside trumpet was stopping them from going back up. How is it with Tromba? Is it the same problem?

Hello Trent, I just saw your video and well, you left me thinking now. I do own a Stradivarius model 37 but a plastic trumpet is something I've been thinking about buying just to say...I have one, lol. However, I would like to buy the best plastic horn possible produced. I wasn't too impressed with some of the negatives you mentioned for the Trompa review and my question is, have you reviewed others such as the Allora, Tiger Plastic, Pbone. Which one would you say out of the many out there which I think i've mentioned probably the better ones in the market, which one would you agree or recommend.

I really hate these things. They feel and sound like toys. Maybe that is their intended purpose...

@verdana7372

7 жыл бұрын

most likely for kids who don't know if they really like the instrument yet.

@zxKAOS1

7 жыл бұрын

_If you let those kids borrow your cell phone, but only if it's inside a protective case, then you just might, want to spring for one of these trumpets instead!_ ~semi-Larry The Cable Guy impression

@AudreyDurden

6 жыл бұрын

Austin Benesh Fischer Price all the way. lol,

Plastic trumpet sounds nice 👌🏻

You should review the tiger plastic trombone with the F attachment

You should review the tiger plastic trigger trombone. Is seems like a great option, but I'm skeptical.

Next time I have a gig in the Antarctic I'll pick one of these up.

A good, and no doubt accurate review. Have you tried a Kelly plastic mouthpiece? They describe them as "lexan", mostly because of the negative connotations of the word "plastic", I guess. To me, they play like a metal mouthpiece, except they don't start out feeling cold, or get hot. My only criticism is that they don't make enough different sizes - I'd buy more, if they did. Their 7C cornet and trumpet mouthpieces are good, IMHO. The mouthpiece that comes with Tromba instruments, is shit, yes. As I also attempt clarinet and sax playing, I never expect the mouthpiece that comes with anything to be of any use though. The rest of the instrument is a bit better, but still compromised by questionable design and manufacturing processes. I have the Tromba plastic cornet. I haven't noticed a leak around the mouthpiece, but I don't use the stock mouthpiece - I've mostly used a Kelly 7C with it. The main spit valve drips constantly, which has the advantage that it never needs emptying, but must also be throwing out some of the notes. The lower end of the scale is a bit buzzy and weak sounding, to me. The worst problem is the intonation - if third space C is in tune, second line G is very flat, for example. I noticed the join where the bell section starts on mine has white foaming polyurethane (or similar) glue, protruding into the bore. I made a tool with a diamond chip glass cutter on a length of tubing, to grind it out a bit, which seemed to help, but not enough. My guess is that the other joins are the same - restrictions in the bore due to expanding foam glue, throwing out the intonation. If you look up the effect of a dent which narrows the bore, on a brass instrument, you'll find that it throws out the intonation of notes that have a pressure node at that point - the note plays higher or lower than it should. The other big irritation is that third slide barely slides - it keeps catching, and has to be forced to move. If it had been built with a metal sheath, like the valves, that wouldn't happen. I'm inclined to think there's no reason why a plastic brass instrument can't work well, though some moving parts probably can't be plastic - at least they had the sense to use metal liners on the valve pistons, on these. It's just that no one has yet pulled it off, convincingly, as far as I know. I've wondered if the PlayLite euphonium is any better. I've never played a Euph, but I do sometimes play a tenor horn (aka Eb alto horn). They're not supposed to have slides you move while playing, so that's one less thing to get right.

It sounds good to a point (such as in a Marching band) but it lacks the "Ping" ring a metal one does.

I respect you as a musician

So I agree that it leaks out the water keys, particularly the main tuning slide. However, I feel my Tromba C trumpet is easier-a lot easier-to play than my metal Bb trumpet. I prefer my Kelly mouthpiece just because it’s a 1C than the 5C and 7C that came with my Tromba C trumpet. I also like the softer sound. I’m also not happy with the first valve action on my Tromba. I tried hand lapping. Maybe I need to do more. But I will also try swapping out the springs if the smaller one is in place. Otherwise, I really want to like my C trumpet just because it’s a C trumpet. I owned a Kanstul C trumpet that I liked less than the Tromba C even though the Kanstul was impeccably made. Just never felt right. Anyway, good review. Thanks for posting.