Should You Buy a Plastic Instrument?
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Christmas is coming up and there're undoubtedly a number of people looking at buying their first instrument. What should you buy? Plastic or metal?
Although this video focuses largely on trumpets, the point of view expressed in this video also holds true for trombones and other brass instruments.
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"Tested before it reaches the factory" That's a tall order, Trent.
@ethanbrittingham5815
6 жыл бұрын
lbrown21494 lol I didn't even notice that at first
Welp.....time to show my family this video since they bought me a cheap Indian trumpet
@leonardyoung189
3 жыл бұрын
😂
I have a plastic pbone. It's a fantastic instrument to take with me when I travel internationally. Its durable, lightweight, low cost, sounds decent, and has no metal to trigger the TSA or border police. There's certainly a place for a well made plastic instrument in any musician's collection. Its simply a matter of having the right tool for the job.
I own one and love it. The fact that I can leave it around the house and just pick it up and play it whenever the mood takes me. My Calicchio stays in its case, coming out only for a gig or performance.
4:11 That editing is flawless.
After a 49 year break, I started laying trumpet again about 14 months ago. I am now playing my second horn this go around in two community bands. Good, veteran layers in both groups who are still not sure what o think of plastic horns, have told me that mine sounds very good. After quite a bit of research, I bought a Tromba.
you should do a tiger tuba review. If you haven’t already.
@MR5er1
6 жыл бұрын
IWasBoredProductions Yeah, Tiger plastic instruments are much better than the P stuff
@lavallecoleman1192
6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he would if the didn't cost $1000 dollars. Any tiger instrument bigger than a trombone is gonna be a little pricey for somone who doesn't have use for one.
I would suggest that you might consider a plastic horn if you have a nicer one that you don't want to ruin in marching band. Used with a metal mouthpiece, of course.
To get great instruments cheap, if you can find a friend to locate you a quality used instrument, great deals can be found, as well as great traps
What are the kids gonna do with those trumpets to get chlamydia 😳
@AspartameBoy
6 жыл бұрын
Andy Rodriguez No, it’s what did Trent do with what?
@Danny-mk1zy
6 жыл бұрын
Damnit Andy
@gtran2536
6 жыл бұрын
Andy Rodriguez duh. So then they can swap parts with their friends and have rainbow trumpets!
@hunteralexander9791
6 жыл бұрын
They would simply be putting the cheap horn on their face. I don’t know whether your comment was based on sarcasm or a lack of knowledge, but based on the fact that you used emojis I’m going to guess that it’s a lack of knowledge. Chlamydia and herpes can be transferred by contact of mouth.
@AspartameBoy
6 жыл бұрын
Hunter Alexander it’s based on the fact that I spent two weeks in India. I think very highly of the people there. I look with great sadness at what the British Empire has done to them. I do not tolerate disparaging remarks cast towards those that I love.
I love my Pbone. I can leave it around the house with my four year old who keeps knocking on the floor. At one point a seam was split after a bad fall and I carefully fixed it with super glue. It's good as new! It's not as good as a professional trombone, but I have a starter Bach and it's about as good as that. Every school, middle and high school, should use these. I do make sure to use a metal mouthpiece, though. That makes a difference.
The dislikes are from instrument makers in India
I believe the Tiger plastic instruments sound very nice, especially the trombone, better than most cheap brass relatives infact. You should try them.
I'd like to hear your opinions about buying used and the precautions that should be taken before playing (particularly in terms of cleaning/disinfecting). Should that be done DIY or taken to an instrument shop to handle? And thank you for all of the info you provide on your channel!
I’m playing my new Bb/F trombone for pep band, because it is lighter to hold for a long time and the air seems to flow better and sounds the same or better as my school loaned jazz band. I play Euphonium for Symphonic though and it is metal.
@bandmasterjf
4 жыл бұрын
Dont buy a plastic trombone. They dont hold up
If you do decide to get/gift someone a plastic instrument, I suggest still getting an appropriate metal mouthpiece for it.
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Can you tell me what the tune is in the intro?
with so many stencil brands, it is sometimes difficult to find the country of origin for many brands. I wish there was a cross reference
Care to do a review on that antique-looking pocket trumpet mounted upon the Wall of Many Things?
@TrentHamilton
6 жыл бұрын
Will do one day... When I get it working.
I bought a Chopra trumpet (from India) for 109 USD with free shipping. I'm in a mid term awful financial situation, otherwise I would buy a Yamaha for about 550 USD. The one I got couldn't be played out of the box, all valves were sticky, I washed out then oiled it, now it works, tuning slides aren't anything smooth, but there's no leaks. The mouthpiece isn't good, maybe it's just wrong size for me. I found hard to play the instrument, but I played tenor horn 15 years ago for three years, because at age 9 I couldn't make out any sound of the trumpet. For its price it's acceptable, but for serious purposes definetly it's better to buy one for 400+, but I would never buy anything for over 3000$ what I can lift with one hand.
@TitanicTom1912
5 жыл бұрын
Barnabás Rózsa you can buy a really nice used Conn, Bach, Jupiter, etc. for less than $200
"Saying first won't make your mum love you more"
When did you get the heavy caps? Where would you recommend getting them for cheaper?
Thanks, ive been looking to upgrade to an f-attachment trombone, but the price is a little heavy. Ive been looking online and found plastic instruments, i was truly amazed. And i was wondering if it sounded the same, was durable etc.
@bandmasterjf
4 жыл бұрын
F attachment plastic trombones aren't durable
Yo Trent! Are you gonna make a video about that pocket Trumpet on the wall? Would definitely enjoy it.
Given, as has been commented, that you can /should always give anything a darn good wash before you put your lips to it, it might have been more useful to point out simply that the Indian made brass instruments currently trying to flood the bottom end of the market are absolutely as awful as the fractured English in their florid advertising blurb. They are almost impossible to play in tune - particularly for a beginner -, their mechanical parts are barely functional even with lots of TLC, and they are, mostly, made of metal thinner than a beer can, and consequently have zero useful life expectancy.
Thanks Trent, I've seen heaps of Brass and Woodwind coming from India for ridiculous prices ($400 for a New Sousaphone, $300 Eupho). I'm glad more people are aware of this, it really is a waste of money.
I've been watching your old videos. What auction site do you use for your instruments?
Hi Trent, a question for you! When you showed your brass trumpet in this vid it appeared to have modified valve caps. Do the heavy (and expensive) valve caps really make a difference to the sound of the instrument, or is it just a bit of bling to spruce up and otherwise standard looking horn? Thanks again for the excellent content.
@TrentHamilton
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Martyn, it does focus the sound, but I think for most players it's largely aesthetic; it's subtle.
A friend of mine bought me a brass trumpet second hand with "Tokan No. 12" engraved on it for christmas, does anyone know anything about it?
I'm a begginer band member, would you reccomond me buying a plastic tuba, since I've dropped the brass one on my face already?
I totally agree with not getting your child a cheap trumpet from india. I started on a $40 cheap trumpet and it was a horrible experience. I now use a ytr2330...
ok but i am a tuba and i dont wna shell out 15000 for a saint pete or 9000 for regular 3 valve so I dont know what to do do i get a plastic or what
I am looking to get myself a 4 valve euphonium. My question is what is a brand that won't break the bank but will be well made enough to last awhile?. Also, is it better to have 4th valve with the other three or by the left hand? Any answers are appreciated
@adriannacollins5383
6 жыл бұрын
The Real M&M there are plastic euphs for around $400-500 and student models start at around $700 for brass. As for the 4th valve, placement doesnt matter. If you get a 4 valve with the 4th valve next to the other 3, you can bring your left hand around the front and use your left index finger instead of your right pinky. What matters is if you want a non-compensating or compensating instrument. Because you're just starting (I assume), I would go for a non-compensating. Hope this helps.
Trent!! Please consider reviewing the Cool winds CTU-200 Plastic 4 valve BBb tuba and their CTB plastic Trombone with F trigger. Also look into the tiger branded 4 valve tuba, plastic by the way
@TrentHamilton
6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to, but unfortunately don't have the money to spend on them right now.
Should’ve been a 10 second video. *intro plays “no”
Hey Trent, as a flute player wanting to learn how to play a trumpet and trombone, what approach should I take to learning how to play properly?
@blahblahblah5521
5 жыл бұрын
I know I am not Trent but I would make sure if you want to play trombone make sure your arm is long enough. I would rent one (trumpet/trombone) before you go and buy one but don’t like it.
Where did the pocket trumpet come from. The one on the wall.
Everyone Trent is the best KZreadr he deserves 10 mil subscribers
How about a review on the PTrumpet?
I’m getting a plastic trumpet cause I play brass but I don’t have enough money for my own so I’m getting a plastic one as well as renting a horn
@timothyblack213
6 жыл бұрын
Blala Hermione Plastic instruments are great beginner-intermediate practice instrument, especially if your school or band has brass trumpets to loan.
@jonathanj.4800
6 жыл бұрын
Blala Hermione NOOOOOOOO. 🤣
@jesseybarra3408
5 жыл бұрын
Eyy my fellow horn player
I know you may not see this but can I buy an Indian euphonium and deep clean it and will it be safe then?
Does your advice change at all for larger instruments like a plastic euphonium?
@IndigoEuphonium
6 жыл бұрын
Same question here. Buy a decent 4-valve (4th used by pinky) euphonium for $600 or a plastic compensating for the same price?
@andrewweirny
6 жыл бұрын
In particular, while the small tubes of the plastic trumpet look more or less invincible, the wide sheets of gently curved euphonium plastic sound like they'd be a little easier to crack.
@bandmasterjf
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewweirny The tuba bells break
If you want a good instrument buy a higher price one or one from jean paul. But if you have a metal one with the same price as a plastic one. I'd get the plastic one because it will probably be more enjoyable to play for not professional purposes. A metal one of the same price will be garbage.
In my opinion so it might be wrong but I think a plastic trumpet would be good if you're not planning on doing like full bag and it's just kind of a hobby or for fun thing then yeah I think it'd be good for you to try plastic point you wouldn't spend your the money but if it's for like actual concert marching or any kind of band then I would go for a regular brass or metal trumpet
How easy is it to repair a plastic instrument?
You should do a video of all of your instruments.
@christianraduns9700
6 жыл бұрын
He said he would if everyone could agree on what piece to play with all of them.
@nicholastrombone9899
6 жыл бұрын
OK I put my bid the Carnival of Venice
@lstockl5901
6 жыл бұрын
I️ agree, carnival of Venice is a good song to do.
Good Video
Whattt??!! "And a bit of domestic violence"?? 😂😂😂
OOOH a pocket trumpet on the background
@doniedodo5690
6 жыл бұрын
SUP
What’s the cheapest plastic trumpet
I once bought a tenor horn through eBay from India. Guess what : After C-C#-D-D#-E-F-F#-G-G#-A-A#-B it was impossible to blow the C coming after that. I emphasize : IMPOSSIBLE ! So Trent is right on India. No brass music instruments from India for me. This was several years ago, but nevertheless that horn is now used.... for dry flowers as a vase.
When you say "don't buy an instrument from India," do you mean the brand SAIMusical?
@chrisdrybread8142
6 жыл бұрын
Taylor Norris for the most part.
What about if you are playing for a (non-professional) jazz bands?
@Mitioritos
6 жыл бұрын
oh dam. for jazz you need the best of sound. defenetly a brass instrument.
I play trumpet but want to try trombone... Should i buy a plastic trombone or a cheap one?
Have you roadtested a plastic tuba
Little late I already bought the Playlite trombone
You forgot the weight aspect. The plastic trumpet are lighter and more easy for a child to hold because I that.
I just want one to play around with
If i were to buy an indian instrument would it matter if you cleaned it before use
@maxmollish1657
6 жыл бұрын
Nestor Pelayo thanks
@CreeperFino
6 жыл бұрын
for the love of brass DON'T buy an Indian brass instrument. Despite the possible infections you can get, they sound like shit, play like shit, and in general are shit.
Did you get a new camera?
Would you get those diseases still if it was made in China but shipped from India?
If money is your main concern, go for that $88 trumpet that Trent reviewed
What would be a good plastic trombone? I want to learn to play at student level but some of the brass one's are too expensive.
@iancoyle4610
6 жыл бұрын
Jiggs pBone. They play wonderfully and are around the $170 USD range last time I checked Amazon
@paulcheenis8768
6 жыл бұрын
Nick I pBone's are only $100 and are great
@nicki1128
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MR5er1
6 жыл бұрын
I think that the Tiger ones are better, google them
@lavallecoleman1192
6 жыл бұрын
Nikola Tesla Don't they only have those in f-attatchment form? If so he should learn straight first.
bru i need some sources on those diseases
Plastic is good for players who have day jobs and want to play after work or on business trips. Weight and ease or handling. Because they have quirks that can make them difficult to play, they can discourage beginners. Higher the quality the more consistent, the better,
I'd go with a plastic instrument, plus metal mouthpiece. I can't imagine kids learning proper embouchure on a plastic mouthpiece. Granted, I might be partial, since I learned on brass gear.
@Bob1Mack
6 жыл бұрын
According to a review in (if memory serves) 4barsrest the mouthpiece that comes with the P-bone is actually very good for a comes-with mouthpiece. I'll grant you, that it's a low bar to clear.
Do they make a plastic sousaphone? I play the baritone and I want something else to mess around with in my free time.
@AspartameBoy
6 жыл бұрын
Blockhead CoC try a garden hose.
@christianraduns9700
6 жыл бұрын
If you're looking to mess around with a low instrument, I recommend tuba *way* above sousaphone.
Gosh how do you really feel about plastic horns?
man how many horns u got?
Review a plastic tuba if u can
"Cooler"? Absolutely not. Cheap guitars and ukeleles look similar to quality ones, but the plastic trumpet looks like a toy. The advantage of plastic is price, as you mentioned, so it's not a huge investment (read: not a waste of money) for a beginner who gives up. What you didn't say is that plastic is also lighter, which is good if the recipient is a kid.
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@selbatsfam02
6 жыл бұрын
'Sup
If a trumpet is plastic is it still concidered a brass instrument 🤔🤔
I just want a trumpet for fun, i play the french horn regularly
@Metal-Possum
5 жыл бұрын
There's nothing fun about a trumpet.
What about Mellophone
@helmetguy6495
6 жыл бұрын
Noah the gamemr 55 probably but don't get a plastic French horn
An Olds Ambassador trombone can be had for Round $150 second hand. It will be so much better than a plastic trombone with that ridiculous slide.
I wish you were wrong about the Indian instruments. I have a Besson cornet that was made in India, under close supervision from Besson. This model has been described as the best ever made in India, and the best I can say is that there is nothing really, egregiously wrong with it. (And it was cheap).
@AspartameBoy
6 жыл бұрын
Bob1Mack so what is the incubation time for leprosy??
@Bob1Mack
6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know, and I think I can thank the over-worked QC guys from Besson for that.
@amandanectar
6 жыл бұрын
jack sprat 😂😂
@TrentHamilton
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was careful when I said cheap instruments from India. I'm aware that they made some Bessons for a time, and those certainly weren't cheap.
How do you know when you’ve moved from beginner to intermediate?
@anticswithmydogz
6 жыл бұрын
The truth is that beginner/intermediate is a really gray, arbitrary line. Many beginner instruments are also intermediate instruments. It is my opinion that you should "skip" beginning, and just go to the ones marked "intermediate".
@helmetguy6495
6 жыл бұрын
When your lungs are big enough and you can stay open while you play
@helmetguy6495
6 жыл бұрын
Señor Ananas go ask a professional and they'll see if you are ready, they usually are right
@senorananas
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks everyone!
If you want to waste money and get bullied then yes you should buy a plastic instrument.
@suckanegg1015
5 жыл бұрын
That was what I was thinking
What material properties (density, elasticity, hardness, etc) are the most important for the quality of an instrument's sound? Are there brass alloys used especially for musical instruments?
@Markworth
4 жыл бұрын
How all those properties work is a bit complicated and players have different opinions about it, but about the other question, yes. Nickel silver (high nickel brass) and rose brass (or whatever it's being called this year) are a couple of brass alloys that you'll see used in instruments and almost nowhere else. Rose brass is popular because it looks cool and doesn't dent as easily. I don't see it as much anymore, but you can still get French Horns that are solid nickel silver. Supposedly, nickel silver sounds better, but I think it's just a cheap way to get a "silver" color without plating. The most annoying part about nickel silver is how bad it looks when the lacquer wears off. It tarnishes really fast and easy and doesn't polish up that well.
I have a trumpet from India...
A new section of the band has been created, the Plastic Wind section. I agree, it is not the Indians, it is their instruments and the trouble they cause to the community. The dreaded pox is only the start of your problems. Charles Manson was given an Indian trumpet as part of his punishment and it finished him off. Now he only has 8 more life's to serve.
the fuck was with that opening sentence XD
I have a brass trumpet but I don't want to carry it on the bus IM LAZZZZZZZYYYYYY
God this guy is horn-y Jokes aside good stuff here!!
I might buy a plastic instrument just to try that instrument out before I get a Metal one
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Should I get one, I’m just trying to learn trumpet, I play trombone.
hey are German made instruments good quality???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Don't buy the Tromba instruments, get the P-instruments instead. The P-Trombone seems to review considerably better, and if I'm correct, they were doing it first.
when your trying to get through no nut november and you watch trent hamilton.
"mini thousands of dollars"
@TheStickCollector
6 жыл бұрын
Mitioritos about few $100
I throw my brass trumpet at my sis sometimes
@chrisdrybread8142
6 жыл бұрын
the east american talk show ouch!!! Poor trumpet 😔
could you perhaps make a side by side comparisson of the sound on a brass trombone and on a plastic trombone?
@nbtbn
6 жыл бұрын
Mitioritos He already did. Check his channel
@Mitioritos
6 жыл бұрын
oh ok, thanks, i searched once and i didnt find it, but ill get more indepth now.
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What the best plastic trumpet or trumbone
@MR5er1
6 жыл бұрын
Michel Pham Tiger
plastic sounds like garbage but they improved my tone somehow and i cant knock them for that. they are like weighted belts of the brass family.