Very good job explaining the difference between the 3 different transmissions.

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Great job. This really saves us a lot of time and money. It's a bummer when you buy something thinking it might fit only to find out it doesn't. Totally enjoyed learning about these transmissions. 👍👍

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I know what you mean. It just happened to me with with an Xray X1 and a gear diff from a Schumacher. Happy New Year. Cheers.

This is just the review I was looking for, thanks!!

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad it was useful.

Super friggin informative. Thank you so kindly for doing this. You rock bud!!!❤

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. 🤝

Excellent video! Thanks for making it. I've wondered if there was much difference between the 272R and the proline. Now we know!

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure. 🤝

Great thourough review Thanks for that...

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

I wish I would have watched this video a little sooner. I just bought a proline transmission for my slash and now I wish I would have gotten the traxxas magnum Trans. It seems like a big improvement over the proline.

@telecomandorc

7 ай бұрын

I really like the 272R. But even the PL is a massive improvement over the regular 272.

Cool Vid !!!! Very Useful !!! Have a question, You think the Proline lay shaft ( Top Shaft ) will fit the old and new traxxas GearBox, I'm Interested to convert in 32p Spur gear and slipper Clutch pads !! Thank U

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't fit. If you do not mind not using the dust cover, you can use a Revo gear.

I would love to see you include the RPM transmission. Nice video!

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

The RPM transmission or hybrid gearbox has too much flex. That is really why I did not include it. It is not something I would really consider anymore. The proline is nicer and works great in a Slash with a 16T pinion with a HW 3660 system. Or a Tekin ProHD.

@nolimitrc1

2 жыл бұрын

The rpm trans is no good the the 272r or the proline is your best bet!

you mentioned using a 40 tooth pinion w/ the 76 t spur, are you running that with stock vxl motor & esc on 2s for drag racing? if so have you had any issues, I have 76 - 31 I assumed going any higher might be bad but now you have me thinking?? Thanks

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

I am not running that set up at this time. I did it to give people an idea. A 35-36T is better because it is smooth (easier to modulate throttle with stock esc) but runs cooler for more passes. It depends on how many consecutive passes you will do. But I do have a 76T spur. A 48P will be fine with a stock VXL on 2s. If you run a more powerful system you may want to consider a 32P... with MOD1 you lose tuning capability.

I know this is many years later but it’s interesting to me that the 272R trans is at this moment (3/9/24) $99.95 on Traxxas’ website. The price actually came down some it seems. By the way this is the first video I’ve ever seen of yours and it was extremely well done. I was gifted a 2WD rustler and stampede, both xl5 brushed models. I’ve been wanting to know what all the differences were between these exact three transmissions. I’ve been searching for several days to basically find nothing. This video was amazing and extremely informative, I now know which trans I will get. Thank you again!

@telecomandorc

3 ай бұрын

I am glad... and enjoy your RC's. The Stampede is quite fun and very under rated. It is just loads of fun in small areas. Consider watching my motor videos if you get a chance. I have several on the Titan 12T and BL-2s: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZej1MyDoNfbo7A.html If you watch my 4-Tec 2.0 videos I try a variety of other motors. Thank you for watching. Cheers.

@rockyfortenberry5845

3 ай бұрын

Wait the 272R trans is $100? My local shop has one with a $200 price tag on it and they are a traxxas dealer. And that was yesterday when I was there.

@2down4up

3 ай бұрын

@@rockyfortenberry5845 Yep! $99.95 to be precise direct from Traxxas themselves. I bought one last week for my son’s Rustler, it’s going brushless once we kill the Titan 12T on 3s.

@2down4up

3 ай бұрын

@@telecomandorc awesome I’m check them out! I actually have a rather built up 4tec 2.0 but I’ve never decided on a power system for it. So your video might be just what I need.

@telecomandorc

3 ай бұрын

@@rockyfortenberry5845 Oh, boy. TRA9495 check the part number. If this is it, it is $100. Go to Amain and use that part number. Or, better yet, go to Traxxas and use 9495. IT is $100. You dealer might have it price based on the demand from 4 years ago... or might be that small dealer who pays really high rent and needs to charge a bit more and does not understand capitalism. Or it could be an honest mistake where an employee hit a 2 instead of a 1.

I have the Proline, But I really want the magnum 272 because how hard I bash, I keep splitting\cracking trans case on the Proline & the ease of filling the diffs in the magnum is much easier, really wish I did my home work, I bought it the week they released it & literally just seen the clear gear cover & had to have it haha

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

100%

Would you recommend the upgrade from the 272 too the 272r? I do bash/jump my slash alot and I also have it setup too run 3s with the vxl system.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

I would recommend it. Acceleration is more controlled. The oil filled diff. is a game changer. It is something one does not realize one needs until one has used it.

Great video

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@mikoes08

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc just got in to the hobby its addicting.

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikoes08 Just watch... days will seem too short. 😉 Wait until you get a crawler if you haven't already.

Not sure if i missed it, but can the traxxas regular 272 internals fit into the Proline case ( should one want to use the traxxas ball diff?)

@telecomandorc

8 ай бұрын

They fit the regular case but not all fit the drag case.

Traxxas lunch the pro series in the Bandit, Rustler, Slash and Stamped, and i want one by any means

What parts between both transmission because I just bought the 272R case I own a 272 transmission and I just bought 272R transmission case what parts inside the transmission that I can use

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

The top shaft, and idler gear.

Can they fit 1/8 size motors? Just wanted to know because Hotracing and Integy and other makers make ones for conversions for their 1/10 vehicles to fit 1/8 motors.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

You could, but I would not. A Castle 1515, for example, is heavy and way too much torque but not enough Kv. The think will flip over if you sneeze. The Tekin ProHD 4300Kv is a great 2s motor. The Tekin T8i is an amazing motor up to 4s. But even 4s I find is too much.

@Tejaye777

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc Ok thanks bro. I have a TP 4070cm 2200kv.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@Tejaye777 Makes sense since you have the equipment.

i like the look of the proline but i like the magnum functionality more lol, and im thinking you could perform just as good as these with the stock housing, they make a Hot racing sealed diff that fits in the stock case, and buy the slipper shaft with no roll pins

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

I like the layshaft swap. The only thing is the 272R does have the kick-up built in. I had the HRATE38CH but the large thin o-rings leaked. Good thing for Harbor Freight and their o-ring sets.

What’s the best pinion/spur combo for that 272 magnum with the vxl3s motor? I’m after top speed? Not sure what that motor can handle, just got it and about to get the transmission.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

It should have included a 28T pinion assuming it has an 86T spur. But it will probably lift due to the body before it gets to top speed. You will have to cut out a large window in the rear of the body. It you get a 76T spur you can do a 26TT pinion. The 28T pinion with a 76T spur takes too long to get to top speed, and is too much heat. Keep in mind you will only be able to do a few passes and will have to let it cool as the motor will overheat.

@jefflesser630

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I do have the 28t on currently and can not go full throttle with out it lifting. I will cut a whole in the body and give it a shot. Thanks again.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@jefflesser630 My pleasure.

@zackfair7697

Жыл бұрын

Hello , Thanks for you're videos. You recommend Magnum 272r for setup 3674 in 1900kv for 4s?

Hey, what's the max setup for maximum speedruns you recommend for a bandit vxl on the stock velinion motor? 31 76 runs fine but i think it can go higher without becoming to hot...

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

It can handle a 35T pinion. If you are just doing speed runs and stopping to cool in between, it will be fine. But, as you already know, the thing loved to flip over on hard acceleration. So plan on a long straight. You have a different Tx, right? The stock does not have much range.

@nukeleus911

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc yeah i'm researching on what tx to buy depending on the biggest pinion i can put on the stock motor. The motor is still fine and i don't want do that much damage to the wallet 😂 it may be my next upgrade in the future. From what i understand the 35pinion will do... On the 31 it goes already verry fast 😉

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@nukeleus911 Consider a Futaba 3PV: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paGlxbqxpMzUlqw.html

@nukeleus911

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc thanks for the advice!

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@nukeleus911 My pleasure.

My proline scrubed to i took 2 of the nylon traxxas bearng washer and stoped it and proline was silky smooth ,say yes wonder how much power it robbed untill i noticed.

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

You would think they would have done something like that at the factory or made it part of the design. Especially for the price. But glad you got it working like it should.

I love how they're already 139.99 lol what's better on a 2wd slash the 242r or the proline? I bash around on grass dirt and asphalt and like go make it do wheelies lol I've blown up 2 Traxxas transmissions

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

That is a tough one. It depends on your set up. I prefer how the motor mounts on the 272R. I also like the slipper with HR long Al pads as they are stronger and more aggressive for 3s use. The PL slipper system is not very good for 3s... great and smooth for 2s... not so much 3s. If you have the PL, I would stick with it. If you have neither, I would go with the 272R. It is more tunable as far as clutches and FDR since the motor can mount farther.

Got the proline transmission and added the velinion 3s at same time on 2wd rustler. Put the traxxas wheelie bar on and that in my opinion was the problem. The proline is awesome but the 1st 2 or 3 wheelies put to much stress on rear case of trans and broke the case around the rear. Just installed the magnum 272r and it seems beefier in that rear section. Will be testing. Other notes on proline is the largest pinion that can fit is 19t honestly I think it's fine because it comes with 56 tooth spur

@telecomandorc

6 ай бұрын

I never thought about it. I wonder if the PL would handle the wheelie with the damper in it. But the 272R is a very good transmission. Glad you picked one up.

What is the part number for the pro line top shaft. Or slipper shaft.

@telecomandorc

2 ай бұрын

I am not sure about just the shaft but PRO609209 is the top shaft and the slipper discs.

Good Imfo , Brother .! Careful out there .A few Sellers are advertising the M72 gearbox in nos models from 3 yrs ago . Happened to me recently after examining the product. They have been posting new vxl specs, on older new vehicles. Lack of a Alum. Motorplate & having to split it to get to guts is a sure giveaway. Sent back for refund & an inconvinience al together.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Wow! That is crazy they are doing that. Shipping is not cheap. Thanks for the heads up.

@davidrivero7943

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc Fact that 272 M is not pictured outside the box was my 1st clue & figured it was the box that was messed up . Nope , regular gearbox is shown like older vxl models.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@davidrivero7943 Those guys are pulling a classic bait and switch. Good thing you caught it. Who was the vendor?

@davidrivero7943

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc An Auto Parts selling rc, whose name i wont reveal since they supplied a Shipping Label very next day & so far the communications have been great but takes 5 - 7 days for Refund to go thru & thats a bummer.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@davidrivero7943 Ah, they sound decent them. Probably an honest mistake from someone doing the advert. I am glad they are standing behind their service. One time Amain accidently copies the specs of a particular motor onto another on their site. When I called they quickly provided an RMA and return paid shipping. Which is one thing I like about them.

Can you use traxxas lay shaft (top shaft) in the proline transmission

@telecomandorc

4 ай бұрын

I do not recall. I think not, but could be wrong. I like the 272R so much I got rid of the PL.

Will the proline accept aftermarket spur gears? Which kind?

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Not sure. Most spurs are 56T and some 57T. Hot Racing makes a spur for the Axial that might fit if you eliminate the slipper. But never tried replacing it for an after marked one. The one in my TRX4 is different.

I’ve snapped one of the arm mounts off. Took a large jump and bad landing though

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Ouch! Did it land on the edge of one wheel?

@tylerphelps4868

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc from like 15ft up yeah lol skate park jump

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerphelps4868 That makes sense. I know the feeling. Still fun and I would do it again.

Do you have a link for the clutch pads from hot racing???

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

This is the part # HRATRX15GSL and you can find them here: www.amainhobbies.com/hot-racing-carbon-fiber-long-traxxas-slipper-clutch-kit-hratrx15gsl/p-quawtsqapbzxactz If you want something more aggressive try: HRATRX15HSL.

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc gonna try them.. Just burnt up the pads on Thursday doing alot of speed runs and racing

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

Are these pads pretty good... i see carbon fiber... and i seen some metal

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@angeloverduzco2891 The nut sometimes comes loose too. But I hear you. The stock pads just crumble.

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc ok... gonna order a couple sets today... gotta be ready just in case... I appreciate your help and advice

I have cracked the Front bulkhead where is the shock arm attaches

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Go with the RPM one. RPM73752 They make different colors. This is the black one, but they have green, red, and blue as well.

@hauntman

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc Trust me I already fixed it LMFAO I put an aluminum one on might not be the best way to go but I have not broken any shock arms yet fingers crossed I don’t

You can buy the HR differential case and that fits in 272 transmission

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

The HRATE38CH is a good case. Just replace the large o-rings as the shrink and leak.

@timprice8877

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you replace it with HR diff? The Magnum comes with a good sealed differential so no need.

@foxhoundra6444

Жыл бұрын

@@timprice8877 i think only the 272r has that, the 272 does not

Witch one would recommend for dirt oval

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

If cost is not an issue, I would get the 272R. I like the way the Slash handles dirt with the kick up built in. I can hold a little more power. The 272 is easier coming off power, but not by much... and only in abrupt negative acceleration changes... So 272R is my pick. You can always get the top shaft for about $8 and the HR sealed diff for close to $50. But the HR diff I have leaked due to the o-ring seals shrinking. So I have to replace those.

@davidrenaldo9429

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply and advice 272r it is

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidrenaldo9429You are welcome. My pleasure.

Already have and been in my truck for 2 weeks

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

What differential fluid are you using? I am about to try 40K to see how it does.

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc just using what came in transmission... its on a slash 2wd vxl with mip driveshafts.. wicked fast... handles amazing

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@angeloverduzco2891 I like the aluminum plate. I may get another for my Slash ProTrac build. Especially since I can use a larger pinion than with the PL 32P so I may put my LRP motor back in.

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc nice.... I was thinking of putting on my stampede see how it runs on there...

What’s the best differential setup?

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what the purpose. I am liking the 272R with 40K in the diff. For spec Slash... go heavy on the oil weight.

@andrewnielsen4890

2 жыл бұрын

TelecomandoRC Thank you, I pick up my 272R tomorrow!

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewnielsen4890 Good choice. By the way, the differential is easy to remove and retune (change diff. oil) compared to the others. I am really liking the simplicity.

at 23:36 what is that shaft call anyone got a part number for it

@telecomandorc

2 ай бұрын

The lay shaft or top shaft... TRA9494.

The proline will break at the middle point of the a arm mount mine did snapped half way between a arm mount and housing not as strong as traxxas housing. Proline housing has webbing on bottom side of housing,not good.traxxax is solid.it seems plastic is weaker on proline trans. Also.I had crack in bottom of proline housing also when I removed from my drag car.

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Nice feedback.

That stock transmission you have to replace that roll pin on the inside with a titanium drill bit. That will solve that problem.

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

TRA9494 this is also an option.

@ConditionZero76

2 жыл бұрын

or buy the Proline & or now the new 272r & never have to replace anything with drill bits lol

@Fiya8o3

2 жыл бұрын

Or u can just get the shaft with the pressed on gear. I think it's about 10 bucks.

@ConditionZero76

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fiya8o3 yes that's the easiest fix.. 💯🏁👍🏼

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@ConditionZero76 Agree. I have just been running the 272R. Best way to go. The 272R also has built in kick so it has a bit better traction on hard acceleration. Spins out a little more under hard breaking, but the race is over by then.

I use mod 1 gear

19 tooth pinion and a 37 spur mod 1

Liquid rc???

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

I like the comment, but I have no affiliation with Liquid RC. I liked the squid.

In Arizona

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

I will have to take a trip to Chester's. Not for RC parts but for fried gizzards before I go search for parts. What is the current price in AZ for the transmission?

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc $140

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@angeloverduzco2891 Thank you. Similar price then. Considering how much the PL is, it is a good price as the 272R allows for more tuning.

@angeloverduzco2891

2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc yes... I thought it was a good price... I am really liking this transmission... my slash is a beast right now... lol

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

@@angeloverduzco2891 Try the PL ProTrac kit if you have not. It is night and day. The parts are sold separately for now since Horizon bought PL. They are supposed to bring it back at some point.

one uses one a lot

@telecomandorc

11 ай бұрын

One might say. 😁🤝

Velineon 3500kv heats up too much the lower the KV the bigger the pinion

Thanks for this video but I still don't like the price tag

@telecomandorc

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. The current price is $140. If it were closer to $100 it would be more palatable. Especially since one can use the 272 transmission case with the 272R shaft and, like you mentioned in another post, the HRATE38CH diff. case. That would be less expensive. Although, the 272 does not have the same kick up as the 272R... not a big deal.

I found the 109.99 at my local hobbyshop the 272r is more smooth compared to the 272

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

Finally they come down in price. I am not sure how much money they save on the regular 272, but I see no point. The Slash really needs the 272R. Plus that 3 degree kick up really helps out.

@slashraptor9317

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc i think this 272R is a great upgrade because of the tunable diff and the slipper shaft plus I use the aluminum hot racing long pads better bite. I can set it and leave it and not worry if it backs off. how are the carbon fiber ones?

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@slashraptor9317 It depends on the power. For 2s I like the carbon pads because they are a little smoother and they do not chew up the friction disk as much. Now, for more power, or even the heavy nitros (like Tmaxx) I like the aluminum because they are more aggressive and hook up fast. But they wear and score the friction disk faster.

@slashraptor9317

Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc I set my slipper almost all the way tight and back it off an 8th of a turn not very much

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@slashraptor9317 You are putting all the power down then. Those aluminum pads grip even with a turn out. Not that I recommend a turn out. The nylon nut wears with the heat generated over time.

I c broke off the whole right fin off of a proline p32 tyranny it happened within the first 30min of me bashing lol

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

It's funny but it hurts. I am sure we can all relate. Good luck. Cheers.

@Lostprovince2319

Жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to me but sadly in the process of the trans case snapping I lost the chunk that broke so now I’m going to use the internals to rebuild an aluminum case myself but I’m trying to find a decent trans to bash that won’t break within 8 runs to 12 runs

@telecomandorc

Жыл бұрын

@@Lostprovince2319 Integy used to make one for the Rustler that was pretty good. But I was not able to mount the rear bumper on my Slash. Not sure if they still make it.