It would have been nice to hear the final results FeedSpeed.

@NoNameEagle1

10 ай бұрын

Duke was DQ. Miami won

@BRIGRANSTROM

10 ай бұрын

​@@NoNameEagle1It would have been nice to see the results in this video. A VERY POOR VIDEO.

@NoNameEagle1

10 ай бұрын

@@BRIGRANSTROM no english native, sorry

@BRIGRANSTROM

10 ай бұрын

@@NoNameEagle1 No Polish sausage, SORRY.

She def drifted to her right even though she had plenty of room on the inside.

@iggydip

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

That was one of the greatest 4x400 collegiate races I have ever witnessed.

As it has ALWAYS been the rule .. exchange the baton to your left hand so if you're tucked in on the inside post you avoid accidents like this.

@superslide100

Жыл бұрын

Yep relay rule # 1. Some runners (right handed ones) will switch hands down the stretch to the finish. Just because they prefer their stronger grip as the push for the finale 10m. However on a 400m run, its always meant for you to protect the baton with your body. Great race either way.

@chironjo

Жыл бұрын

Great point.

@acornlucy2

Жыл бұрын

The other ‘rule’ is you must handoff with the right hand. It’s a right hand to left hand pass. Most efficient for a handoff. If she has ever run any other leg than anchor, she has practiced switching the baton to the right hand for handoff. Most of my teammates on the 4x400 relay team automatically switched the baton to the right hand as soon as they received it, while they were still getting up to speed, to maintain maximum speed at the handoff. I ran anchor but the coach made me switch immediately to the right hand also.

Tragic? Do people not know what tragic means? It’s a bummer and bizarre but tragic ? NO!

@wfsm1th

Жыл бұрын

people died man. show some respect

@thomasbraun2052

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the worst disasters in history, show some class

@garyb2392

Жыл бұрын

@@wfsm1th oh, like deaths from testicular cancer? This is worse right?

@garyb2392

Жыл бұрын

@@wfsm1th like kids starving in America. This is clearly more “tragic”

@Sweenzopic

Жыл бұрын

Funny

5:28-5:35 reveals how wide Duke runner's baton arm naturally swings wide. She needs 1-1/2 lanes to cover that body movement.

@MrChickensnatcher

Жыл бұрын

Looks like she drifted into Miami's lane as well.

@bexactlyyy

Жыл бұрын

I thought that too. Good for other sports tho I'm sure

@RBZ-1

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if she just stayed in her lane it was a win, and then not to go pick it up cost them 2nd place as well.

@emmas1082

Жыл бұрын

@@RBZ-1 she knocked the baton out of someone else’s hand

@emmas1082

Жыл бұрын

@@RBZ-1 she was looking when she hit it out of her hand, and it looked like it was done on purpose

The opponent hit it out of her hand though!!!!!!!!!!!!

@susisorglos6125

5 ай бұрын

Look precisely: Miami had always straight Lan2, Duke left their Lane Nr.1 and crossed by herself.

I ALWAYS told my athletes to hold that baton in the hand AWAY from the competition. I saw that coming when both athletes were going into the final turn. They were shoulder to shoulder. NEVER have the baton next to the opposition when that close.

@rodwoods2108

Жыл бұрын

Great advice.

@arnaldogomez9146

Жыл бұрын

and never cross the line either

@ltcolumbo9708

Жыл бұрын

Genius after the fact

@arnaldogomez9146

Жыл бұрын

@@ltcolumbo9708 Tell the judges

@Jimmiecal1

Жыл бұрын

Would think that its hard to switch hands during a relay

You drop it. You always go back and pick it up. No matter what. 🤦🏾‍♀️

@bernicemoore5182

Жыл бұрын

I don't think a runner can step off the track to pick up a baton.

@Rogerw1nz

Жыл бұрын

The baton flew out of her hand and she would have had no idea where it went!

slow mo: 8:08 runner #5 in final stretch runs on lane 1, 8:13 runner 5 drifts right to lane 2 and gets too close to runner fm Miami who ran straight with her same arm swing motion

@bullcrap9409

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Got to 8:08. The Miami runners left arm moves differently in the first stride than it does wham it knocks the baton out. Her elbow straightens out more, hand swings a little wider, shoulder rolls a little further back, and then the arm wraps more around her back to complete the arc.

@michaelnewman880

3 ай бұрын

​@@bullcrap9409nonsense. Her lane, so she can do what she wants

I really enjoyed that race. The baton drop? One of those things that makes sports interesting as you never know what can happen and nothing is "in the bag." Great heart in all those runners.

@mohamedgoldstein5565

10 ай бұрын

Drop? It was knocked out of her hand. But then she was the one not keeping her lane.

Swinging the baton outward, to the side with a loose grip, at the end of the stick!!!! 😂 Young athletes take heed, you must have firm grip of baton and swing fists (hip to earlobe). We all do this in drills!!! I saw Abby Stiener with the awkward outswing of arms last year, but many athletes should avoid that type arm swing. ...but that's okay, I feel bad for the Duke athletes, but they will be just fine. Come back strong in outdoor. Blessings ❤

At the 6:17 time mark, McGinnis is clearly running in lane 1 (watch her feet). By the time she reaches the finish line at the 6:25 time mark, McGinnis is running in lane 2 (both feet in lane 2). People who say that Miami instigated this infraction are blind, biased, or both.

@starlight7830

Жыл бұрын

Yep !

@edcarman4704

Жыл бұрын

Miami fan, huh.

@1dash133

Жыл бұрын

@@edcarman4704 Actually, I'm a Duke fan and generally don't care for Florida schools. But that's because of my concern for academics, not because of sports interests.

@edcarman4704

Жыл бұрын

@@1dash133 Whatever you say, Sebastian the Ibis.

@1dash133

Жыл бұрын

@@edcarman4704 8:08 time mark.

As a former anchor leg on many relays this is some heart breaker shit - damn I feel so bad for her because she ran a hell of a anchor leg 😢😢😢😢😢

@koolsmoothfan

Жыл бұрын

could she have gone back and picked up the baton? she still had plenty of time, if she had done it immediately

@RealLifeFinance

Жыл бұрын

@@koolsmoothfan I think she had no idea where it had gone.

@RealLifeFinance

Жыл бұрын

I loved my life teams 4x races. I was usually start leg or middle. Ran anchor only twice, Won one and faded to 3rd in one. Exciting stuff.

@_Francois1

Жыл бұрын

​@@koolsmoothfan yea she could have but she probably thought it dropped after she crossed the line and no one motioned to her to pick it up.

@acornlucy2

Жыл бұрын

I ran the 4x400 in high school and college. Almost always anchor leg. I loved it! But it’s tough. Once in a high school match, I had to run the first leg AND the anchor. I ran the first leg then ran directly across the field to cheer on the anchor runner. When I got there, coach was there and the anchor runner had injured her hamstring during last minute stretching. Coach grabbed my arm and shoved me onto the track and yelled, “you’ll have to run this leg, too. Just do the best you can.” And we won! It was great fun! Coach had me run anchor in every race after that.

My heart dropped. Dam**** That swinging arm movement was devastating. No more swinging wide arms. Keep them close to the body. My heart goes out to the team.

@antonio00075

11 ай бұрын

And “stay in her lane” pardon the pun, she would of won

@BRIGRANSTROM

10 ай бұрын

Profane.

People thinking it's possible to time a perfect knock-out in the last 10m of a 400m relay while lunging for the line ... have never run a 400m relay! Lane 1 drifted into Lane 2, heat of the moment stuff with an unfair, tragic ending, my heart gives her the finish, objectively it's a DNF.

@TallGenius

Жыл бұрын

Well said - it’s heartbreaking as a former anchor leg that ran on many relays, but the rules are the rules - if she was present in mind she could have grabbed the baton still cross the line and still got the chip because they only needed a 3rd place finish 😢😢😢

@1dash133

Жыл бұрын

@@TallGenius I think McGinnis was "present in mind". She knew exactly what her situation was: she had crossed the finish line without the baton. Under NCAA rules, there is no going back at that point to retrieve the baton, it is an automatic DQ.

@RealLifeFinance

Жыл бұрын

She drifted out, no way to argue impediment

@dn-zb2bj

Жыл бұрын

Baton needs to be on inside hand as well

@gregd6706

Жыл бұрын

There are NO "lanes" after the first two curves.

6:17 Knocking the baton was down on purpose, you can clearly see the runner opened her hand out flat to hit the baton....

She crossed into the other lane like four strides before reaching the finish, lol. She was totally gassed at that point. 😂

@rocket5557

Жыл бұрын

There are no lanes in the final leg of a 4x400.

@mts7274

Жыл бұрын

@@rocket5557 Yes, but there ARE lanes on the TRACK. There is no advantage to drifting to outside lanes or into another runner. This is what fatigue does to an athlete.

Tragic would have been falling and have the baton drive through her skull. This is more like, "Oh, shit, that sucks" level stuff.

@S0ulinth3machin3

Жыл бұрын

it's more amusing than it is tragic.

@WavesofJava

Жыл бұрын

John, thought the same

@roughtakes7271

Жыл бұрын

Two overused words describing lots of recent videos are in Sport its "Tragic" and with Astronomy its "Terrifying" - or even worse is when any given title doesn't represent the content at all.... ;-)

How does the baton fall out with her hand moving forward, slow mo will see the contact( not intentional) knock it out of her hand.

I totally agree. This was so tragic that I've been in a deepest darkest depression in the last 6 months. The hopelessness is simply unbearable. 😢😢😢😢😢

@mohamedgoldstein5565

10 ай бұрын

I know. I could not sleep for 6 months.

@floridaoceancurrents

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂!!

Beautiful race

If she had stayed in her lane near the end that probably wouldn't have happened.She went right over into the other lane,hence the collision & baton drop. .Even a foot on the line is a DSQ I believe.

@leroyrussell8766

Жыл бұрын

Once the runners all moved to the inside lane, after the very first lap, there are no lanes. Run where you want, though I do believe there can be "interference" rules that come into play, if it is deemed that you purposely collided with another runner. That's not what happened here.

@thehookert

Жыл бұрын

Finish line was just steps from the turn. She ran a straight line...which is obviously the fastest way to get to the finish line.

@gregd6706

Жыл бұрын

There are NO "lanes" after the first two corners.

@michaeldevaney5728

Жыл бұрын

I imagine a lot of men with very wet trousers

Why do they say tragic ending? It was a fantastic race. Congratulations Ladies.

@adrianwright8685

Жыл бұрын

Was a great race with a tragic end as she dropped baton before completing

@emmas1082

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianwright8685 it was hit out of her hand. For a fraction of a second, you can see the cheater glance down to the left, so she knew what she was doing.

@amandaaccica

11 ай бұрын

Because although Duke crossed the line first, they were disqualified for the dropped baton. They only needed a 3rd place finish to clinch their very first outright indoor title. So not only did they not win the race, they didn't win the title either. And she had like 5 seconds to run back and grab it before the 3rd place team finished.

@geezer5357

11 ай бұрын

unpleasant interpretation@@emmas1082

@hardworkmcgee2998

11 ай бұрын

You know why

Purposeful. No need to be that close to anyone.

Just by looking at the baton and how wide her arms was swinging, I knew the outcome before I saw it actually happening in the video. Great race tho. Stay in your lane too.

Team mates supportive so nice to see Things happen in relay races .

That’s some bizarre track colouring! Its like watching it in black and white with very few colour throughout the whole video lol

she hit her arm intensionatly

A few steps before finish line, runner on lane 1 invaded lane 2. Runner on lane 2 ran in middle of her lane.

@jujutrini8412

Жыл бұрын

I spotted that too.

@acornlucy2

Жыл бұрын

There are no requirements to stay in your lane after the staggered start and the first 2 turns.

@exploidur

Жыл бұрын

@@acornlucy2 Nonetheless, runner on lane 1 ran into runner on lane 2. Runner on lane 2 stayed at center of her lane. Arms touched because of this. All fault lies on lane 1 runner.

Your hands usually get really sweaty by the end of a 400 m run. I’ve run many races as the 4x400 anchor runner. It’s hard to hang into a wet baton by the end of the race.

@sircxx8621

Жыл бұрын

It’s not if you hold it tighter ffs. It’s just unbelievable recklessness.

8:15 McGinnis finishes the race in the second lane ! Therefore, McGinnis gravitated towards the second runner !

@S0ulinth3machin3

Жыл бұрын

yep. Good observation.

@garydoyle7155

Жыл бұрын

lane incursion is not the DQ not crossing the finish lane with baton in possession is - - I think the announcer said if she would have stopped and recovered the baton they still probably would have gotten second place because 1 and 2 were that far ahead. When I ran sprints and relays back in the 1960s if you dropped the baton during a hand off you were DQed never mind not crossing the finish line with it The first runners out of the blocks must stay in their respective lanes so they don't get an unfair advantage until the lane stagger is equalized

I vote to let them keep the"w" - It clearly wasn't a drop 🥇🥈

@hairtoss7975

Жыл бұрын

Nope, they did not finish with the baton.

@dimensionexo.

Жыл бұрын

@@hairtoss7975 I would imagine that decision will be highly contested - Right ? *

Isn't it good enough to carry the baton for 1599 meters?

Disqualify Miami. She knocked the baton out. It's her responsibility to see where her hands are swinging.

@andrewvoorhees4062

10 ай бұрын

Disagree as the Duke runner had plenty of lane to her inside - she chose to run that close to the Miami runner... had the Miami runner gone further near Duke's lane and swung those arms then you would be correct.

@arthur-ri4zo

10 ай бұрын

@@andrewvoorhees4062 The Duke runner was in front. It's up to the Miami runner to stay clear of any contact or fouls. Miami knocked it out of her hand period.

@andrewvoorhees4062

10 ай бұрын

@@arthur-ri4zo normally I would agree but you can't drift like that... it's been a few years since i was on a track but if I had the lead, the last thing I would want to do is drift towards an opponents "lane", you are asking for contact. If you are Duke and worried about loosing and then drift out, I could see that as blocking or impeding. I'd have to watch the Miami runner to see if she changed her running style at all or if she has a natural swing. If she did change her style, then I would agree with you, otherwise no.

@arthur-ri4zo

10 ай бұрын

@@andrewvoorhees4062 If you're in front. How can you tell who, what, or where someone is behind you. It's up to the person behind to stay clear Just like in an autombile accident when you're driving too close to the car in front..

@andrewvoorhees4062

10 ай бұрын

You obv never ran... you can see/hear people in your peripheral when they are that close for that long of time... if the Miami runner would have knocked the baton on the curve where she is hugging it to the inside, I would be more inclined to side with you.

I admire the reaction of her teammates. She must have felt horrible losing that baton.

@Yourmumstinksofpiss

Жыл бұрын

Losing? It was knocked out her hand pure and simple.

@lyzehalbert1408

Жыл бұрын

I really felt it for her n her team...imagine working so hard to win n this happened

@Mike-cs9jr

Жыл бұрын

It happened so close to the finish she may have thought it occurred at the line.

@alphaomega8373

Жыл бұрын

Meh, stuff happens.

@shirlynewberry6788

11 ай бұрын

"Losing" the baton and having it knocked out of your hand are two different things entirely.

I initially felt really bad for the Duke runner. But it is definitely the Duke anchor leg's own fault, since she crossed over into the Miami runner's lane!

@adamsoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

Lanes don’t matter in the end of 4x400

@ynotbthe1540

Жыл бұрын

@@adamsoutdoors I stand corrected. But she did seem to move over in front of the Miami runner. It is really a shame, since all the Duke runner had to do was finish I believe third or fourth.

@adamsoutdoors

Жыл бұрын

@@ynotbthe1540 I’m sure she did, trying to block her, move her out, slow her down just a step to get the win. All part of racing, unfortunately, or fortunately it didn’t work out for her in this case. Had huge impact in this race.

@ynotbthe1540

Жыл бұрын

@@adamsoutdoors, it was a huge impact on the whole competition, since it cost Duke a shot at winning the whole meet.

@michaelkool333

Жыл бұрын

baton, laughable, it's like holding cash and handing it to your friend. what year is this you fools.

that was a great race from both teams but a tragic way to end it. Rather lose on the track then get the baton knocked. Glad to see the Duke team circle and support each other. They went on to dominate the ACC outdoors so happy ending.

@John-nz6jb

Жыл бұрын

Deliberately hit Duke runner!

@travelgirl747

Жыл бұрын

​@@John-nz6jb she did nothing of the sort

@urrywest

Жыл бұрын

Shit happens.

@alanjones9659

11 ай бұрын

The Miami girls arm was in the air space of the duke girls lane. Race should go to Duke!!!

@annawarner1014

10 ай бұрын

Miami runner knocked off the baton from the hand of the girl in the white outfit.

It was a great race. These are truly good relay teams and they really performed. In my estimation, the baton drop is merely an odd detail, even though it brought a DQ.

@anthonycaruso8443

Жыл бұрын

Anchor leg for Duke runs like a girl.She swings her arms lto r.then r to l.Likely to hit another runner.Arms should move front to back,not sideways

@emmas1082

Жыл бұрын

It looks to me like it was done on purpose. The other runner looked down to the left and knocked it out of her hand that was no accident.

@WilliamMurray-lr1bb

Жыл бұрын

@@emmas1082 I don't agree .... if that was planned contact to dislodge the baton , the Miami runner wouldn't have waited till the last yard and a two hundredth of a second difference .... it was pure bad luck !

@emmas1082

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamMurray-lr1bb if you look at how it happened you will see that the girl who knocked the baton out actually looked down to her left before she did it.

@veronicadamico7976

11 ай бұрын

It was done on purpose

I bet she won’t run with the baton in that hand again. Pretty surprised being at that level that she made this mistake. Coaches should probably investigate in to why she did not know this. This wasn’t a simple mistake but a massive mistake on her part.

@atatterson6992

Жыл бұрын

And if she was being passed on the other side? "Massive mistake"? Perhaps you should show us how it's done... can you run a 440?

@daytonagreg8765

Жыл бұрын

@@atatterson6992 Actually yes, @jdr4393mwm (if you recognize his handle) is an elite, world class athlete running the 440 with one Olympic Gold medal and 2 world championships.

It got knocked out of her hand because she was trying to cheat by moving into her aponant lane. Am I the only one that Cleary saw this

@lamh5265

10 ай бұрын

Apparently most saw the glass half full...you saw negative empty......doesn't mean you are wrong though.

@user-oi4jh8bq3y

9 ай бұрын

Why would a racer move to the right🤫 hush now your not making sence .

@user-oi4jh8bq3y

9 ай бұрын

(opponent)

From World Athletics Technical Rules in force From 1st November 2019: 24.6 Baton specifications and interaction guidelines: 24.6.1 A baton shall be used for all Relay Races held in the Stadium and shall be carried by hand throughout the race. At least for competitions conducted under paragraphs 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.6 of the International Competition rule, each baton shall be numbered and of a different colour and may include a timing transponder. Note: If possible, the allocation of the colour to each lane or starting order position should be shown on the start list. 24.6.2 Athletes are not permitted to wear gloves or to place material (other than those permitted by Rule 6.4.3 of the Technical Rules) or substances on their hands in order to obtain a better grip of the baton. 24.6.3 If dropped, the baton shall be recovered by the athlete who dropped it. They may leave their lane to retrieve it provided that, by doing so, they do not lessen the distance to be covered. In addition, where the baton is dropped in such a way that it moves sideways or forward in the direction of running (including beyond the finish line), the athlete who dropped it, after retrieving it, must return at least to the point where it was last in their hand, before continuing in the race. Provided these procedures are adopted where applicable and no other athlete is impeded, dropping the baton shall not result in disqualification. If an athlete does not follow this Rule, their team shall be disqualified. ----------------------------------------------------------- It would seem that keeping hold of the baton is part of the runner's responsibility on their leg. If the baton leaves their hand unintentionally it would appear to always be considered that they have dropped it. I can't find any rules which specify a foul caused by another runner causing the baton to be dropped.

@jamesw71

9 ай бұрын

if that was the case you are saying it is legal to knock the baton out on purpose....pretty sure that would not fly in any competition.

This makes me want to go for a sprint around my neighborhood

First of all, there are no lanes in this part of the relay!!! Duke drifted into the path of Miami!!!

@hairtoss7975

Жыл бұрын

She felt the pressure, tried to block and paid the price.

@jupeter24

Жыл бұрын

@@hairtoss7975 yes, I think so. It's very natural to try to block out the other runner in the homestretch though. She should've accepted 2nd and Duke would've won their conference meet (the ACC).

Those batons are pretty slick. I ran track in junior high and high school. I was in the 4X100 relay in junior high and the 4X800 relay in high school. Those batons are very slick and I remember rubbing my palms against my shorts, to keep my hands dry, when I waited for my turn to get the baton. They can slip out very easily if you had sweaty palms and not a good grip on them.

@ChuckNorrisUltra

11 ай бұрын

You changed from 100m to 800m relay? There's no way I could've done that.

@Lou-eye

11 ай бұрын

I was also in a 4x100 relay, never did the baton fly out of our hand.

@leanajo754

11 ай бұрын

@@ChuckNorrisUltra By the time I got to high school, I wasn't as fast as in middle school. So I got moved up to 800 in high school. I had great endurance but not as fast.

I'm not a huge track guy but even if the Duke girl picked up the baton and came back across the finish line wouldn't she have been disqualified for stepping across the line (and into Miami's lane), on her final step before crossing the finish line?

Thanks for letting us know what the decision was!

@TheBrawlBox

10 ай бұрын

I know, utter shite not to conclude it.

Well she technically still won in my book. She was so exhausted so as soon as the baton was hit from her hand by the girl she didn’t even notice it was gone

@CASABaJA

Жыл бұрын

No, technically she lost! The whole technique of a relay race is to start with a baton and finish with a baton.

@youknownada2326

Жыл бұрын

​@@CASABaJA If some cheat who didn't want to lose, knocks it out your hand, you shouldn't be disqualified

@Watkinsstudio

Жыл бұрын

She lost.

@tonywright8294

11 ай бұрын

Moron

@denesebuckner3484

11 ай бұрын

Liar she dropped it swinging wildly 😂😂😂 yall lose 2 ..her mistake but head/ face

The fact she didn't have the baton in hand at the finish line is inconsequential. She won the race.

@jerrywilliford6840

11 ай бұрын

She dropped the baton, she lost the race.

@unfriendlies8000

11 ай бұрын

I'm not talking rules, just common sense; there were no more runners on either team to receive the baton therefore there is/was no need to have a baton to pass to the next runner. The last hand-off had been done. The final act is/should be to cross the finish line. Again, not rules just truth.

Watch the placement of the last Duke runner's feet as she nears the finish line! She wanders out of her lane and makes contact with the Miami runners elbow/arm. A lane vilolation.

That DQ is hard to take , they were right there . Could the officials not point to the baton to get her to pick it up and finish , be it second with her assuming she had crossed the line

If it was knocked out of her hand - even accidentally - she should not be penalized.

@S0ulinth3machin3

Жыл бұрын

she drifted into lane 2 and the rule says you gotta cross the line with the baton.

Would holding the baton in the middle instead of the end have helped?

@jupeter24

Жыл бұрын

I think it feels more natural to hold it on the end as opposed to the middle: if you hold it in the middle it can kind of hit against your wrist when you're running, does that make sense? And you don't want to accidently knock it out of your hand. So, I always held the baton at the end, like the Duke runner did. I think most people do this, it feel like a better grip this way.

Whether or not she had the baton in hand or not at the finish line is inconsequential, as long as she finished first.

@CASABaJA

Жыл бұрын

You obviously have no idea how a relay race works!

Espectacular. 😮😮

Are runners allow to transfer the baton into the other hand mid race? Maybe this would slow them down? Noticably, he Duke runner flails her arms from side to side. Her form looks very different from most runners.

@Ruffian144

Жыл бұрын

Yes, runners are allowed to transfer the baton to the other hand; they can carry it in whatever hand feels most comfortable.. Usually a runner transfers the baton at the beginning of their leg before they've gained speed.

@1dash133

Жыл бұрын

@MNP208 McGinnis' form may have been affected by doing the double that day. She had just run (and won!) the individual 400M run two hours earlier, plus she ran in the prelims the day before. So, she can be forgiven for a little break in form.

@RealLifeFinance

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I thought same. With her arm swing she needs to carry in left hand when in lead

Wow!

That is totally unacceptable. Not going back for it was the worst part.

Damn that straight up blows lol. If the Duke chick didn't cross into Miami's lane, then this wouldn't have happened. Crossing into a lane on its own can be grounds for disqualification. In addition, even if the runner wasn't deliberately trying to impede their opponent an impedance took place nonetheless which is definitely grounds for disqualification. At that point the dropped baton is almost a secondary moot point.

Looked like the baton was deliberately knocked out to me.

@1dash133

Жыл бұрын

8:08 time mark. Take another look of the race from the front view. Carefully watch each runner's footsteps. The Miami runner stays true to her lane position. The Duke runner drifts. Now, go back to the same time mark and take a close look at the Miami runner's hand position. Each stroke is exactly the same, the hand position doesn't vary a bit from cycle to cycle. The only thing that caused the collision was the Duke runner's change of lane position. This accident wasn't caused by the Miami runner. There was no evil intent by the Miami runner. The Miami runner just finished the race like she had been trained to do.

That will be a life lesson. The value of sport.

Ok, room for improvement, get back and pick it up. If your running style stays the same, change hands for holding the baton.

Initially, I was leaning towards it being Hebron's fault as she seemed to impede McGinnis from a side shot. After viewing the finish dead on, it shows a different story. Not only did McGinnis's right arm swing a bit wide, she began to slowly encroach into Hebron's lane before the baton was ever knocked from her hand. This is clearly visible @ the 8:07 mark. Hebron was directly centered within her lane when McGinnis breached the lane division line.

@RealPackCat

Жыл бұрын

There are no lanes... That's only for the first 100 yards or so to start the race. Everything else is just positioning towards the inside.

The baton wasn't dropped, it was knocked out by her apponent, they do that intentionally to win the race by not giving her room to run freely

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McGuinness was swinging her arms away from her body instead of using arm action to drive the body forward in line with the track, same as your legs should do. You'll notice most non-athlete girls flail their arms and legs off the straight line which cost them speed, track athletes of both sexes are usually very good at keeping hands and feet pushing along the most direct forward line. Coach, McGuinness can run even faster and use less energy by improving her hand and arm technique. I notice the Duke lady running the 3rd leg also swings her baton off the line.

@wtcashel

9 ай бұрын

Duke final runner drifted out of her lane and made contact with McGuiness! Watch it again.

she did have a weird swinging motion

It is so TRAGIC!

The video cut off. What was the verdict?

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So was Duke given a DNF? The video cuts off.

SINCE IT WAS KNOCKED OUT OF HER HAND! IT WASN'T HER FAULT!

From school record to team loss in a meter.

so Russia had nothing to do with it? I am amazed -

Nobody seems to think the Miami runner didn't knock the baton out on purpose?

to me, the Duke Runner didn't drop the baton as in personally opening her hand to drop the baton. The Competitor Runner knocked the baton from the Duke Runners hand, which to me means impeding the Runners - progress with contact.

That was her own fault. She was putting herself closer to lane 2 to hold off the other runner and she got too close. Her bad! Lmaatwo 😂

It's deliberate

The Duke's runner arms swing out to the side instead of like a piston up and down. Bound to happen with runners so close together.

Wow that is tragic.....GEESH

Was guessing on what this tragic ending could be. Had a feeling the way the last runner was swinging her that it was going to be that.

Wow

If the pep talk is "don't do anything foolish" it might trip them up. "Anything foolish" will be spinning in their heads and become a self fulfilled prophecy.

If that's the case...I would be knocking out batons all day and win the race.

@RealPackCat

Жыл бұрын

run up behind each runner and yank their batons... Good strategy.

I don't know what 'tragic' means in 'Merican, but in my language it means someone died, or nearly so.

The other runner knocked the baton out of her hand and then swung her arm against her again right after to make sure it was out. Then the other lady looked down really hard.if anything the the other lady should be disqualified as well.

I had no idea what was going to happen and when that last Duke girl started out, the very first thing I noticed and said out loud was, "Fix your arms dummy."

The other runner came in too cloSe to her. So close that she couldn't bring her arm in a forward motion. That was interference without a doubt ! That is a shame the other runner might as well slapped it out of her hand. As far as I am concerned ? The judges screwed up horribly. Very sad.

Wait, so if the baton is dislodged by an opponent and sent many yards away and the runner does gather it back but all the others pass her, she is deemed last vs. 1st or 2nd? That means the level at which an opponent sends the baton hurdling away from the runner can affect the outcome? Seems BS loophole rule to me. What coaches might start to coach is to kind of swat at an opponents baton but try to make it look like an accident. What the rule should be that if it's not the runner's fault, loses the baton, finishes the race, and goes back to retrieve the baton, the finish exactly where they finished w/o the baton.

So we're just gonna keep making excuses for her and not mention how obvious she tried to hinder Miami's runner at the tape?!?..Absolutely no reason to crossover to the outside for that many strides!!

@CALord-tc7ww

Жыл бұрын

That's what I'm thinking she had the inside then moved out into lane2 where the other runner was. Totally her fault not to mention her weird side to side arm action.

@_Francois1

Жыл бұрын

That's not illegal to block the other runner however she should have picked up the baton and cross the line again. Now they earned 0 points for that race.

Damn if she was left-handed then clear. It was a phenomenal relay by all 4 legs however.

This wouldn’t have happened, if the Duke runner did not try to squeeze out the other runner

She didn't drop it,it was knocked out of her hand whilst being challenged for the lead. Therefore any intelligent person would say the runner challenging was at fault 😮

You can see Miami girl looking at the baton. I think it was intentionally hit!

@terrycole127

Жыл бұрын

Another sore loser

This has happened before. Flash back to Michael Franks (USA) and Innocent Egbunike at the World Cup 1985 - 4 x 400m (and the best relay finish you will ever see). Egbunike crosses the line in 2nd place without the baton and his team is disqualified: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3aTrpSYYtWwoso.html You're welcome.

@Mickyficky75

Жыл бұрын

That was a great flashback video!! Looks like one guy was cutting the line, overestimating his incoming teammate's finish and another guy took exception and pushed him out of the way (albeit right into the US runners path). Wow, I never heard of that race. Good video!!

Congrats to Duke!

Great race . Can't drop baron in hindsight. Miami ran a better race, but it was close. Just an unfortunate drop?

Go to 8:08. The Miami runners left arm moves differently in the first stride than it does during the next when she knocks the baton out. Her elbow straightens out more, hand swings a little wider, shoulder rolls a little further back, and then the arm wraps more around her back to complete the arc.

@Yourmumstinksofpiss

Жыл бұрын

8.09 shut up

@williambingham3408

Жыл бұрын

If you watch the head on view, you will see the duke runner left her lane #1 and moved into lane #2 occupied by the Miami runner crowding her, had duke held her position in lane #1, contact would not have been made.

Unfortunately, the runner dropped the baton because she crossed into the other runner's lane and bumped her arm.

@kensandberg

11 ай бұрын

They are not required to run within the lane markings at that point in the race.

the girl whose hand knocked it out did way worse than stepping out of bounds