Traditional Archery Tips - Bow Hand Position

This is the second traditional archery tips video in the series where I'll be breaking down my shot sequence. Today we're covering the bow hand position, why it's important, some common mistakes, and how to avoid them.
A solid bow hand position is important for consistent and accurate shooting regardless of the type of bow - longbow, recurve bow, or compound. A good bow hand position will create a solid connection from your archery form to the bow itself and transfer the force of the bow directly into the skeletal structure of the arm and to the shoulders.
How we grip the bow is also important. We want to minimize muscle involvement as much as possible to avoid the torque it can introduce.
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  • @bowman321123
    @bowman3211234 жыл бұрын

    I'm enjoying your 'refresher course'. Too often I find myself getting lazy and not paying attention to the basics, this is a good series of reminders.

  • @WiilyDerbbinphlatte
    @WiilyDerbbinphlatte3 жыл бұрын

    Can't stress enough how important it is to not have a death grip on the bow. I was doing that and it always torqued my shots to the left. Took Clay's advise, loosened up on the bow and now my shots have come back to the right to center. Thank you.

  • @Nukearchery
    @Nukearchery4 жыл бұрын

    You always make the best traditional archery vids man love the channel

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @AchakMachk
    @AchakMachk4 жыл бұрын

    Tried holding the bow this way and my grip became so much more stable and my groupings much tighter. Great advice!

  • @mikeewing6035
    @mikeewing60354 жыл бұрын

    Your observation is very true about applying force through the base of your thumb having the extra benefit of increasing clearance between the string and the forearm.

  • @diy-hyrum9842
    @diy-hyrum98424 жыл бұрын

    See, this is stuff that no one really shares info on. Super helpful for me as a new bowyer/archer.

  • @DavidTaylor-qx9ii
    @DavidTaylor-qx9ii4 жыл бұрын

    Yet another GREAT video!! RHANK YOU for sharing SIMPLE but IMPORTANT tips and pointers!! Looking forward to the next in the series!! 👍🏹

  • @paulm1548
    @paulm15484 жыл бұрын

    I'm really grateful for your videos Clay, they're great resources. Thanks! Maybe I need to give it more time, but I've had a hard time adopting the grip you talk about. I find I'm more apt to anticipate the shot/engage my finger muscles to grab the bow so it doesn't fall out of my hand afterwards. So far, I've found focusing on keeping a light grip (like when shooting a rifle) works better for me. Hoping that changes though.

  • @armaximus
    @armaximus2 жыл бұрын

    These videos have helped my shooting so much. The devil is in the small details. About to start my 3rd day with a 35 lbs sage recurve. The diy video on a leather finger tab was a saving grace for the fingers. It kept me going for hours.

  • @jeremysaunders9916
    @jeremysaunders99164 жыл бұрын

    Hi Clay, not a bow hunter, can't in the UK but really enjoy your teaching. I am not a member of a club, not a club person. Only reasently got into traditional bow and just wanted you to know that I find your videos invaluable especially these on form. Many thanks Jez.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🙏

  • @embe9146
    @embe91464 жыл бұрын

    "I'll take that!" Hahaha I love it. Great video.

  • @pauloduarte3095
    @pauloduarte30953 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all the information you have provided, as a newby to archery and being really obsessed for traditional archery, i find in your channel an amazing font of knowledge and information. Without a doubt the best archery channel in the KZread. Keep up the amazing work brother

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg4 жыл бұрын

    This "grip" is how I was taught, though using a compound...makes a World of difference. So far everything that has been shown (up to this point), I also do with my compound. Looking forward to testing this out.

  • @americanphoenix2617
    @americanphoenix26174 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos on form. Thank you.

  • @johanrautenbach6074
    @johanrautenbach60744 жыл бұрын

    Great tips, always practical and hunting related

  • @MayhemMaker007
    @MayhemMaker0074 жыл бұрын

    Great video, great tips!

  • @Lorenzo-vb1so
    @Lorenzo-vb1so4 жыл бұрын

    Always helpful to watch these videos

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @eotwawki1622
    @eotwawki16224 жыл бұрын

    I should have watched this vid first! Always thought my release was my issue making my arrows fly awkward, played with different spines, lengths, point weights and nothing was working. Watched the form vid, new that would be an issue and the new ones and watched this last. My shots aren't the greatest but my arrows are flying beautifully now. So the only thing I need to change now is EVERYTHING! My draw elbow was too high, but after changing my bow hand, my poa came up, moved my anchor point up a little and now everything is much better. I figured out why it changed so horribly wrong. I was using my index finger to guide the arrow on the shelf at the beginning of the draw so it wouldn't hop off. Don't do that! A deeper anchor , shoot with glove btw, seems to twist the string a little to bring in the arrow. Not sure if that is a good habit yet, but time will tell. Thanks for the help Clay!

  • @Primitive-Hunter
    @Primitive-Hunter3 жыл бұрын

    Keep the videos coming.

  • @godzillaburger9690
    @godzillaburger96904 жыл бұрын

    This helped me SOOOO much! THANKS!!!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped

  • @elvispresley7529
    @elvispresley75294 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. I don't shoot in the modern style like you but i've still gotten some good information from watching your videos.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @markinaction1
    @markinaction12 жыл бұрын

    This eats my shot up. My entire bow arm is always out of line. Shoulder surgery makes it difficult but I am not quitting!

  • @JohnJohnson-zz8re
    @JohnJohnson-zz8re2 жыл бұрын

    I shoot a Bear Supermag 48 , 50# purchased from 3R Archery. Wish I could hold full draw like you did at the end of your vid. I'm lucky to anchor, quick aim, and release! Great info, thanks!

  • @brianc6739
    @brianc67393 жыл бұрын

    That’s a beautiful longbow man

  • @kickejohansson1
    @kickejohansson14 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait until next video! Love how all good archery explains quite easy how they are shooting, good job! To explain on e thing easy you have to k ow your stuff!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you're enjoying them.

  • @paulm1548

    @paulm1548

    4 жыл бұрын

    👍 And be a good teacher! Being an expert doesn't necessarily mean you are good at explaining things to non-experts.

  • @kickejohansson1

    @kickejohansson1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@paulm1548 yep, I think to being able to explain something in a easy way, you have to be very good at what you do..

  • @slimeboogercatfishcrew4951
    @slimeboogercatfishcrew49513 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos man. I've been shooting bows my whole life and your videos are still helpfull toba guy like me and I appreciate you putting them out there to help people with the best sport in the world. I've got a question tho. Is there a reason one of your fletches is a bit shorter than the rest? I'm just curios lol

  • @caseysmith544
    @caseysmith5443 жыл бұрын

    I have a descent hand position where I have the fingers just naturally go to slanted on the front of grip for the bow that in turn keeps most non center shooting bows at that slight slant the type of bow I am using needs but using all fingers but not tight griping the bow. I have done this since about age 12 after shooting for two years with a friend all his and his dads used bows they got at a few Estate sales where the recurve/flat Bows were not selling for a whole lot due to being one or more: all fiberglass, kids models, or brands that were mass produced. He had the 1-2 year of Root/Shakespeare dual labeled bows he had/one strict Shakespeare bow model, the all fiberglass models/few kids models in there too, and last the kids bows that were both Fiberglass compound with really old tech or the low pound recurves he had from the fiberglass sale along with the Komet/Comet by Ben Person.

  • @asse1112
    @asse11124 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips Clay. Could you make a video on bow shoulder pain, how you can get it, prevent it, and maybe repair it?? I tore my bow shoulder up last year from shooting too much and possibly having bad form.

  • @MrRourk

    @MrRourk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check out Gary Chynne.

  • @yugen
    @yugen4 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff. I seriously got into archery about 10 years ago, took a bow making class from Ted Frye in OR, made around 7 bows, strings, arrows, and read all of the Traditional Bowyer's Bibles multiple times each but it's been around 7 years and i'm now getting back into the hobby. Couple questions: - I believe I recall in one of the TBB someone recommending a lower brace height than is typically recommended. What are the benefits and drawbacks of a lower brace height vs higher? - From reading the TBB volumes, I came to know the bow anatomy as handle, lower limb, upper limb, etc. As such, I thought that the term "riser" only referred to more modern laminated or Olympic style bows. Where does the term "riser" originate, and am I wrong in that recollection? I realize it's fairly ambiguous and you're trying to speak a language that most people can relate to, but would like to hear your thoughts on that particular subject. Wonderful material as always. Your sons are incredibly lucky, there's nothing more that i'd love to do than go hunting with my grandpa (who was my father for all intents and purposes) once again.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I use riser to include the handle, arrow shelf (if there is one) and the fades. A low brace height is easier on the bow in the long term but it can cause tuning issues as well as wrist slap.

  • @jamesjgill
    @jamesjgill4 жыл бұрын

    Good series. I am going through several of your videos. Do you have anything where you talk about the mental side of hunting, or perhaps target / 3D archery? If so, please take the time to give me a link to it. If not, perhaps this would be a great topic for a future video. Thanks for making great content.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’ll cover the mental side of shooting later in this series.

  • @jamesbaldwin9969
    @jamesbaldwin99694 жыл бұрын

    I've known about you for a while. I did hear your name on Joe Rogan. He had Aron Snyder on. It's episode 1499.

  • @OdegardOnline
    @OdegardOnline4 жыл бұрын

    What is the average airspeed of a mayfly laden with an arrow as it leaves a bow? Thanks for all the great content.

  • @killbill5477

    @killbill5477

    2 жыл бұрын

    A European mayfly or a an African mayfly?

  • @aaronjackson5453
    @aaronjackson54534 жыл бұрын

    Love you channel! I always learn a lot. I have a couple questions Can you back an ipe bow with hickory? If so, can i use Titebond III to laminate them together or should I use an epoxy like EA-40? Finally, should the hickory be the same thickness throughout, or like bamboo, thinner near the string nocks and thicker near the handle? Thanks!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never tried it but it should work fine. Most of the hickory lams I’ve seen have been consistent thickness, maybe 3/16” or so.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve only ever used EA40

  • @aaronjackson5453

    @aaronjackson5453

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok. Thank you very much! :)

  • @brandiwynter
    @brandiwynter2 жыл бұрын

    Clay, my bow is too heavy for me to hold like you show (Martin Saber TD). I tried a wrist strap but unless I cinch it down, I can't hold the bow like that. Any tips?

  • @dannybyrdjr919
    @dannybyrdjr9194 жыл бұрын

    Hey clay great videos! I Got a question. I been shooting instinctive for a while and I shoot split finger. I tried using a elevated rest and For some reason I shoot high. Is this normal and how do I fix it? Thanks and keep up the good work

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not sure, I’ve never used an elevated rest.

  • @dannybyrdjr919

    @dannybyrdjr919

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@clayhayeshunter k thanks

  • @bogenstark_kai8461
    @bogenstark_kai84614 жыл бұрын

    That us a gorgeous bow man! Love it. Why is the lead feather of your arrow cut that way?

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s just a damaged fletch.

  • @bogenstark_kai8461

    @bogenstark_kai8461

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@clayhayeshunter thought you might have some great reason for it, because I liked the look and could use it for myself 😉😉

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nope, I’m just too lazy to fix it😆

  • @bogenstark_kai8461

    @bogenstark_kai8461

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@clayhayeshunter you don't seem like the lazy type! But I'll believe you! Found your channel recently, because I try getting back into archery. It's really helpful, thx!

  • @ThumbsMcThumb
    @ThumbsMcThumb4 жыл бұрын

    What is your opinion on the fixed crawl?

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Works great so long as the bow is tillered and set up for it.

  • @williambeatty2675
    @williambeatty2675 Жыл бұрын

    Actually My shoots really need help but it up to me to make me a better person.

  • @deepeegg
    @deepeegg2 жыл бұрын

    And completely straighten your elbow?

  • @DanielReyes-hz1qk
    @DanielReyes-hz1qk2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I'm left handed and don't have that pad of fat or muscle at the base of my right thumb, so I can't hold a bow like that, it's uncomfortable and unstable. Explains some of the issues I've been having 😂.

  • @Marmocet
    @Marmocet4 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever tried shooting with a thumb draw?

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only a few times.

  • @rattdutta6350
    @rattdutta63502 жыл бұрын

    Make a Bamboo bow. ।. ।। easy style

  • @ronaldgoodrich5460
    @ronaldgoodrich54604 жыл бұрын

    You also won't string slap your arm.

  • @charleyharlan979
    @charleyharlan9794 жыл бұрын

    That may fly was looking for a thrill ride, and you should have obliged her, 186ft/sec = happy bug.. #TradinducedG's

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    😆didn’t think of it that way!

  • @incorporeal3793
    @incorporeal37934 жыл бұрын

    That bow ain't noisy. My £60 Amazon bow is what you would call noisy! 🙉😬

  • @ElizaberthUndEugen
    @ElizaberthUndEugen4 жыл бұрын

    Loud bow? I am always impressed how muffled it is.

  • @seakadventurer1330
    @seakadventurer13303 жыл бұрын

    Thats not even noisy!

  • @williamstewart8449
    @williamstewart84494 жыл бұрын

    No way I can anchor that long. Maybe 2 or 3 seconds.

  • @Flexhunter308

    @Flexhunter308

    4 жыл бұрын

    He anchored for ages aye

  • @lindasischo224
    @lindasischo2243 жыл бұрын

    Please remember though women's arm and elbow are articulated a bit different than a mans.

  • @romulomesones362
    @romulomesones3624 жыл бұрын

    Habla menos y practica mas