I have a Highlander Hybrid and I'm an engineer as well and I had the same exact reaction about how eCVT works when I finally understood it...genius! I watched that exact video you recommended about eCVT multiple times to get my head wrapped around it😅. You have to forget the traditional gear box system to fully understand and appreciate this, it is really brilliant.

Good on you for properly reviewing an eCVT vehicle. Too many reviewers do not know how it works including one American who claimed the new Prius did not accelerate quickly enough,whilst not looking at the speedo, presumably listening to the engine as you might with a manual box.

Great explanation! Toyota has really perfected the eCVT and reliable transmissions in general. All the misleading biased information about 'CVTs' comes from the lack of execution from other brands *cough* nissan. When you omit the belts and cones and replace those bits with a metal planetary gear set the rules change and Toyota has single handedly brought back the charm of what a true e CVT can be.

@svr5423

9 күн бұрын

HSD is not a CVT. Those are completely different concepts. Everyone knows that.

The motor deserves credit too. It's the perfect engine and trans combo.

Thanks for clearing that up. Perhaps the most impressive thing about this powertrain is that the electronics control both the engine and the transmission in every detail and the result is not just excellent fuel efficiency but also a very rewarding driving experience with a lot of flexibility left in the drivers control. As well as Weber's excellent explanation of the transmission there is also plenty of material about the highly sophisticated engine design which is itself a hybrid supporting both Atkinson cycle principles and more conventional operation as required. The electronics allow all these variations to operate seamlessly and the driver gets instantaneous response to the accelerator pedal.

I’ve been driving Toyota hybrids for the last 16 years including the last 10 months with a RAV4 Prime. It’s good to see you correct your understanding of the hybrid drive system, thank you. One small nitpick, the mg2 alone will only power the car to 84 mph not 124 mph.

I’m 74 years and your video made me smile….. When I was 18 years I made a cycletour through Holland, the Netherlands. In the province Friesland impetus a young couple with a DAF ( Dafodle) , I believe that this was its name. That car had a CVT and DAF Eindhoven, from the van Doorn family, was the first CVT car in Holland and Europa.. It’s nice to see you so enthusiastic about the choice Toyota made with this car.. I will follow you because I like your style..

@oliveringram3056

14 күн бұрын

Daf advert back in the day, " Forward to go forward, back to to go back" Brilliant system. Similar system on early combine harvesters, to increase or decrease forward speed in very small increments.

I appreciate your humility to acknowledge you didn't know enough in the previous review and instead of being defensive learned something new and shared it with others. Great explanation.

The original eCVT in the Prius actually won a major Engineering award.

In addition to my 500hp Audi Q7, and my motorcycles, I also have a Toyota hybrid. As an owner I must say that the use of the 'eCVT' label, by both Toyota and Ford for their planetary torque-split gearboxes, does them a disservice. Everyone sees the 'CVT' part, but very few understand that the 'e' stands for 'emulated'. It eliminates the direct linkage between engine and road speeds, just like a CVT, but is fundamentally different and shares absolutely nothing in common with the CVTs that so many cringe over. I applaud your taking the time to dig deeper, and learn more about how the system really works, as that lousy 'eCVT' label causes far too many to dismiss it out of hand. The Weber Auto recommendation was a fantastic choice, as he does a great job of demystifying planetary torque-split gearboxes. I'd highly recommend people take a look at Weber Auto's full catalog of videos to learn more about what makes their car work. 👍

@FirstLast-tx3yj

Жыл бұрын

How do you compare the resposiveness of the ecvt in comparison to a manual or traditional automatic? Given that its in power mode for sure

@robertshunter

Жыл бұрын

@@FirstLast-tx3yj In 'Power Mode' the response is instantaneous, maximizing the use of the motor-generators.

@aussiedeplorable8670

Ай бұрын

Exactly

As a former engineer I found this fascinating, very well explained and informative, well done.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

👍

I enjoyed your first video on the RAV4 - thank you. I had already driven one but was concerned about the CVT transmission. I read loads about it and this morning took out another for a test drive for 2 hours specifically to come to terms with how it works. Like you, once I 'got it' it wasn't an issue at all - it's just a change of mindset about how the car is working. It really is very clever. Thanks for putting up this second video and for explaining how you have adjusted to it. Full marks for revisiting the CVT issue. I've just ordered a RAV4 as a result of my drives and your clear videos have been a real help. Thanks again.

I also watch videos on WeberAuto and it is explained there perfectly...the problem is that people simply refuse to understand the eCVT drive because they have been technically connected to a classic drive with a classic gearbox for decades...but this system works completely differently than a classic combustion engine with automatic gearbox. ...they don't understand it so they refuse it...if you understand this system you start to love it...what amazes me personally about this system is its absolute simplicity...when I technically compare it with DSG it is like the sun and the rainfall...

You are so humble and professional for you to actually say ' I got it wrong'. I have also learnt a bit of details about the 2 types of motors and their functions. I love your videos and looking forward to your next. Thank you.

Finally! Congratulations! You understand it now and admit you had it wrong in the first review. So many of your “professional” colleague reviewers still don’t understand it, only because they don’t take the time to really understand it. It just don’t fit their idea/concept how a car should sound and work. This makes your reviews so much more trustworthy. You have gained a subscriber. Thank you and keep on making these great video’s!

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roy for the lovely comment and Sun and welcome to the channel 👍

This is why your channel will continue to grow… full credit to you for coming back and re-visiting this car (and drivetrain) with the benefit of hindsight and a few thousand miles of driving 👍 Very few reviewers would ..…. I knew once you looked into it you would appreciate the engineering and efficiency of this drivetrain which most reviewers fail to see. Like you I have grown to be really impressed by the smoothness and brilliant fuel economy of this system but I think it takes more than a quick drive to appreciate it. When you also take into account the long term maintenance cost benefits of no starter motor or alternator, it is a brilliant piece of design and gives you a comfortable family sized SUV with the running costs of a small hatchback, as a daily driver I think it’s hard to beat 😊 (hope you survived the storm intact 👍)

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud 👍

Why I love this channel is because of your honesty in reviewing cars. Keep up the good work.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

👍

10/10 for the come back video. Thought your last video was a bit harsh. Watched the weberauto guy myself when I bought my Rav to understand how it worked, his explanation and build video is fantastic.

I have a RAV4 & think its very clever technology and now through your great explanation I know how it works

Super impressed you could talk about something so complex and drive!

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

👍

Pity all the other reviewers haven’t owned up to not knowing how brilliant the E CvT is, well done sir, I only wish the plug in hybrid was available in Australia, so much for our politicians being seriously concerned about the environment.

Your review was very insightful and clear. I appreciate your candor and honesty. I have watched several videos and yours is one of the top videos for this vehicle. You have a dedicated subscriber. Thanks again!

Great video and thanks for the explanation. I still had the concept of the cones and rubber band in my head! Are all engines more efficient at higher RPM? If they could lower that somehow, it would be ideal.

Always love your honesty PP. Also great how the trainer and engineer in you broke that all down! It would take a little getting used to I think.

I test drove a dynamic premier edition today and this explanation has been really helpful. I also have a ‘21 Yaris which replaced a CHR. Now used to the sound of the cvt box. Will order the RAV PHEV tomorrow!

Very good, simple explanation. Only part I would add is that for any planetary gear set if two of the three components move at the same speed it effectively locks the gear set so you get 1 to 1 ratio - so in the rav 4 at 1 to 1 engine ratio MG1 must match the engine speed.

It is a great skill to explain the complex in a concise and understandable way, thanks Pete. I’m 2,500 miles into RAV4 PHEV ownership and loving it. You have to drive in a manner that suites the car, there ‘s no point hustling it. When I switch to my Alpine or Caterham then I have to recalibrate quite a bit!

@toninocars

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. 3 things Toyota hybrids doesn’t like and best to avoid: 1. Hard acceleration 2. Extreme stopping 3. Constant fast driving Build for smooth pleasurable everyday drive , efficient and reliable cars. 👍

@pollumG

2 жыл бұрын

@@toninocars I drove a mitsubishi outlander once a bit too hard and got a warning on the dash about the battery overheating lol

@robertnixon1374

Жыл бұрын

We are @15600 miles on our R4P and this is the very best auto SUV we have ever owned. It took us about 1500 miles to figure out the trans and the ice setup. We average 3.2 miles per kilowatt hour for a range of 44- 50 miles electric. On lever ground @65-75 mph we have surpassed 42 miles per gal in straight hybrid mode. There are additional driving modes in the “S” mode for a real thrill in very steep hills. S1 thru S4 are under drives for steep hills and S5- S6 are near normal driving. We have owned 23 new cars from Toyota Corollaries to even a Turbo Supura and this thing is faster then all of them. ( turbo Supura was a wheel spinner) . No faults yet.

@kroberts7576

Жыл бұрын

@@robertnixon1374 hi are you suggesting putting the car in sport mode for steep hills, but does this not increase the revs thanks

@robertnixon1374

Жыл бұрын

@@kroberts7576 the S mode does increase revs but this also allows better road feel and dynamic braking. Steep hills seem much more controllable in S2-3 at lower speeds especially on twisting steep roads at 25-40 mph.

Thanks for doing this video as a guy currently looking at a range of suv phev cars your first video review got me worried about this car but after this video it's helped clarify alot of things so won't be taking this car off my shortlist so quickly now!

Evening all , six months ago I bought a GR Yaris and on an impulse bought a hybrid Yaris too , first impression was this gearbox is weird but once you dive it and get used to it it’s actually not that bad and as a bonus the economy was astounding ! so just traded it in for a new Yaris Cross which is actually a lot quieter… thank god ! Oh and six months later still totally blown away by the GR , can’t stop smiling when I drive it !

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Mega cars 👍

I owned a Camry Hybrid and loved the drivetrain, because it’s variable you feel no shift points. I also like Toyota’s because I worked as an assembly specialist for them and and retired with 31 years. They make great vehicles and treated me well.

@robertlefeuvre9404

5 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks.

Hi Ped: that's intellectual honesty! Well done and kudos to you! And even though I knew quite a bit about the e-CVT transmission, I have learned something new about the division of labour between the motors. And I am happy to see that you came to like the transmission, since I also like the E-CVT of my Corolla. 👍

Good explanation, been driving Toyota hybrids for a while now . Until you know how they work unlike CVTs of old you come to appreciate how good they are and how clever Toyota are bringing this to market and being successful

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Yep 👍

I watched the previous video and now viewed this! This helped me feel better about ordering my RAV4 hybrid. It’s coming soon!

@PetrolPed

Жыл бұрын

That’s good to hear 👍

I am glad that you looked deeper into the issue that was troubling you about this great car, and now appreciate the qualities.I suggested that when you first picked up the vehicle that this would be a car that you would consider buying for yourself. Of course that would take away the need to create more really good content for your growing subscribers, so I guess it has to go back.

Thank you, very good review and expanation. We ordered ours last year and apparently it is nearly here. Back in the eighties we had a DAF 66 estate which was very good in most respects but if driven hard only did 20mpg. My mother had the DAF 55 which suffered a turned belt which meant that one wheel was driven at a higher ratio - nightmare. A new belt sorted it. Your review has given me renewed excitement for when ours arrives.

An excellent simplistic explanation. I recently traded in my beloved 9.5 years old LR Discovery 4, which I owned from new. I purchased a late 2021 registered Toyota Highlander Hybrid (not a PHEV) now discontinued here in the UK and which is, I think, basically a RAV4, albeit with 7 seats. The differences for me were, initially at least, confusing, for a 70 years old retired engineer. When I bought the car I hadn't realised just how radically different it truly is. Very smooth, very quiet in operation, with that high rev surprise. I had to investigate further. From an engineering perspective, what Toyota have achieved is stunning! I think many folk, unless they have an engineering background, or an interest in engineering and how things work, will not appreciate just how revolutionary this design is. Because of my background I am well aware of planetary gearboxes, motors and generators etcetera, but the design and innovation work on this combined concept is nothing short of amazing. I'm still learning about this system, but I now believe that this really has the potential to replace the current mania for pure EVs. It's a shame that many people will only appreciate it from a fuel and emissions saving perspective. I, for one, am now a convert to the hybrid. Thank you.

Hi Pete, great and very informative vid. Can I ask, do you know what’s happened to the trees along your hill climb at Harting Hill. I used to know this area well at it was always lush and green. Is it Ash die back?

Thankyou so much for this video. You have used my exact words when I have been complaining to my wife as the passenger regarding my Rav 4 Hybrid, that the revs have been rising with little progress forward. I was convinced that the auto gearbox was effectively slipping but clearly did not understand how these motors work. Things have advanced a lot since the old auto boxes obviously. I now no longer need to pester my Toyota Dealer, convinced there was a problem. My mind is at rest. Thanks again.

Hi Peter Hope all is well my mate,, that was great in-depth video and well explained 👍👍👍👍

Thanks for your honesty. CVT transmissions have caused confusion with many people who are confused by the engine revs. It does take some time to get used to the way they operate compared with normal gearboxes. The Toyota system is very clever and could well be the direction we need to go during the transition to full EV. Thanks again, a great video. Gerry in Australia.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerry 👍

@miltechmoto

Жыл бұрын

What does going full ev have to do with this transmission?

@1Iberica

11 ай бұрын

@@miltechmoto essentially a CVT will give the driver an experience not achieved in standard gearboxes. It will find peak torque and the car can remain there whilst it accelerates. This is similar to the power delivery by EVs, albeit not so brutal. In other words a CVT has one effective gear just like an EV. Yes there are various CVT boxes available and depending on the manufacturer and the software that they have, the may behave differently.

Good that.you’ve produced this addendum to your original review and explained how the gearbox works. I’ve owned various automatic cars and found the CVT equipped cars to be the most efficient and smoothest gearboxes.

Good evening Ped, I have not experienced e E-CVT as of yet. I currently drive a 2022 Subaru Outback with their Lineartronic CVT and I have to say it is definitely different from what I am use to. Through the years I have had several manuals and everything from a three speed all the way up to eight speed auto’s. The smoothness of the CVT still impresses me. Although is has taken some getting use to. Great video as always! Looking forward to the next video with the Pups and Ms. Ped. Stay safe and healthy.

Watched this and the in shop breakdown video you recommended and I feel like with both videos, I really understand the basics of the eCVT. Well done!

@PetrolPed

4 ай бұрын

That’s great to hear 🙏🏻👍

Excellent video. This is the first time someone has been able to explain to me how an Ecvt works. Thank you very much.

Hi Ped, really great video, very honest and well explained. I very much agree that plug in hybrids need more range, I do a 72 mile daily commute daily. So even the more advance Mercedes hybrids are not quite there yet. I would be happy to sacrifice engine size to achieve this, as it would take care of 90% of my journeys. Thanks again.

Thank you for the update - very interesting. My comment about my experience in my Mitsubishi ASX still stands. That was a shocking CVT gearbox whereas my Audi A6 CVT was excellent.

Thx for the update Pete ! Still thinking of one of these as my next daily 👍🏻🍻🇨🇦

Hi pp 😇 Really enjoyed the in depth explanation. 👍 Very clever stuff! 👏

I picked up my new Corolla GR Sport 2.0 Hybrid one month ago. It is the first CVT transmission vehicle that I have used. I quite like the roar you get on acceleration, then the quietness you get when cruising. You can barely detect when the engine cuts in after driving on EV only. My wife loves driving it too, so happy days.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

They are great cars 👍

@riccccccardo

Жыл бұрын

Correction for everyone it’s called a E-CVT.

Thank you for the clarification. Very helpful! We are trying to decide between the HEV and PHEV versions of the Rav4. We we’re leaning towards the HEV simply because we know we won’t always have access to charging, but now we know the car can charge the battery (albeit with a higher fuel consumption) that’s swayed things back in favour of the PHEV - which is more appealing because it has a few more features (such as a HUD).

I had also just watched the full video on the eCVT for the RAV4 last week. It makes you appreciate the amazing thought and design going into it. Most people I would say only care about the figures and stats, so I understand that eCVT opinions are just based on Misty how it feels. Otherwise, keep up the good work 😎👍.

Good Video Ped. Thank you for explaining that! Having not experienced a car with eCVT transmission I thought as you did in the first video. :)

Great lesson on the Atkinson theory/cycle. Been taking notes 📝

Well done Ped, good to see the learning curve!

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

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Hi Pete! Thank you for this video! I really would like to understand what is your opinion in using this car uncharged (either due to lack of charging facilities or in long trips)!

Great video, and explanation of how this complex system works Peter. Everyday is a school day! Thanks for sharing 👍

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Shane 👍

Brillant explanation Ped, I have 17 plate Rav4 Hybrid and really didn't like the CVT due to the high revving of it, but just didn't understand why? until now from your super clear explanation. I am due to upgrade and wasn't sure which car to get next, you have now just convinced me, it's a plug in Rav4. Thank you.

Toyota's hybrid is a generation ahead of its competitors. I have never heard of someone having problems with Toyota's RAV4 Hybrid e-CVT.

@PetrolPed

5 ай бұрын

Really ? Maybe read the comments below 🤷‍♂️

Thanks Pedro. A real public service review this time. Educational, informative and entertaining, what more can we ask for. Isn't engineering fantastic. Cheers Champ.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

👊

Your research paid off Peter because that was beautifully explained

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏻

Thanks for another great video Pete. I have to say that after owning a Lexus CT200h and a IS300h a few years ago the CVT gearbox put me off buying another one. For me personally a screaming engine note when accelerating hard and Lexus just don’t go hand in hand, but I suppose it’s good we don’t all have the same tastes. Keep up the sterling work, best of luck with the channel.

Great Video Ped. I totally understand about the revving thing. My wife has the hybrid Kona and the thing feels like it changes down a gear going up hills even when going 70 on a motorway the revs pick up and it is so hard to get your head around why it's doing it. Now I get it. Thank you.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure Iian 👍

Excellent review, and well done for going back to re review.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻

I have a 2019 Prius Prime, which uses the P-610 e-CVT (the baby brother to the P-710 in the Rav4 Prime in this video). Toyota's HSD transaxles are really good technology, very reliable, and they last a very long time if you just change the oil and coolant at the recommended intervals. They are much simpler internally than a conventional automatic or belt-drive CVT, and there's not much that can go wrong with them within the normal life of a car (250,000 miles). I'm not counting the traction battery, of course - the battery will probably need replacement at 120,000 miles - but the internal components of the transaxle and power inverter/converter are generally good for 250K. And the operating cost for gasoline and home charging on a plug-in Hybrid make them pretty easy on the wallet. PHEV's occupy that middle ground between conventional vehicles and pure battery-electrics, with all the best qualities of both, if not the 240+ mile electric range of a Tesla, Bolt, or Leaf. As for high-revving: My Prius Prime, in Hybrid mode, cruises at 55 mph with the gas engine running at 1200~1300 rpm, and it's virtually silent. Climbing steep grades on a freeway, say 6% (that's 6 feet of rise per 100 feet, or 3°26' if you like angular measure), at 55 mph, the engine will be running between 2400 and 3200 rpm, depending on state of charge in the battery and how heavily loaded the car is. The computer that's controlling everything will never allow the gas engine to rev past 4,200 rpm, which is the torque peak - revving it any faster will not gain you any faster acceleration. The low torque peak speed is a consequence of the Atkinson cycle; you sacrifice top end power for better fuel economy and efficiency. At engine speeds above 2500 rpm, the engine noise becomes more noticeable, but since the car is only that noisy on steep hills and hard accelerations, and very quiet most of the rest of the time, in my opinion, the Prius and Rav 4 Hybrids and Rav4 Prime are among the smoothest and quietest cars with a gas engine that you can get. Pure EV's are quieter, but can't match the 550+ mile driving range of a Prius or Rav4 Plug-in hybrid. And that's 550 miles year round: summer or winter, rain or snow, hot or cold. Pure EV's often see their driving range cut in half if the temperature falls below 5°C. To elaborate on the explanation of this Rav4's drivetrain: The planetary gear he refers to is the "Power Split Device" in the heart of the transaxle. The MG1 motor is splined to the central Sun gear. The MG2 motor is splined to the outer ring gear of the PSD and to the differential. The gasoline engine is splined to the planetary gear carrier. The computer that's controlling the powertrain looks at the position of the throttle pedal, the car's speed, and the state of charge in the traction battery, and if the vehicle is in Hybrid mode with the gasoline engine running, it will first decide what RPM is most efficient for the gas engine. It will send fuel to the engine, and electric power to the MG1 motor, is a proportion that causes the engine to deliver the desired amount of power at the proper engine rotation speed that matches the vehicle speed. It does this by causing the MG1 motor to spin faster, or slower, or even in reverse, depending on the speed of the vehicle. Before the availability of small yet powerful computers in the late 1990's, the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive would have been impossible. The computer that accomplishes all of this magic is reading dozens of sensors and making thousands of decisions every second as to how to allocate gasoline to the engine and power flow to the two motors and the traction battery.

Thanks for the update on eCVT. I was one of those that commented that you should look again at the totally different eCVT. Well done! Even the Honda CRV 1.5T with its cone/ pulley system CVT works well, since the turbo has pretty much max torque at 2k RPM, so it only revs high if you floor it. And at 60-70 MPH highways speeds the engine RPM is around 1800-2200 RPM thanks to the CVT ability to optimize the engine to load.

@janeswift9961

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Jazz ehev has a similar system to this Rav. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJug0ryNgrecoag.html

I was surprised by your statement that the eCVT didn’t have cones and a steel drive band.

Good video ped - and it’s important for people to realise how clever these systems are (yet so reliable). Couple of errors I picked up on (only minor). MG2 doesn’t run in reverse to charge (it’s meshed directly to the drive wheels remember), it just drags to regenerate. MG1 doesn’t do re-gen braking, however it can be turned by the ICE to generate electricity. If ICE is generating while your driving, MG2 is driving, whilst ICE / MG1 are generating. You can’t use the ICe to contribute to acceleration if MG1 is generating, as MG1 would have to be turning the sun gear to provide the variable ratio.

Great explanation, one would hope that the sales rep would explain that to a customer. Keep them coming..

Well done for making a follow up video… saying ‘you got it wrong’ but that’s what learning is all about. And now your better informed and so are we. Good job 👍

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed 👍

I recently test drove a Lexus UX with a CVT box. I was very wary before the drive but it is perfect for that kind of vehicle. It was a lovely smooth drive and I couldn’t even feel the engine kick in and out. Great in town and busy traffic. Smooth at speed. My wife even ordered one to replace her Mini Cooper S!

@sydsnott5042

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent car and excellent choice. You don't realise that on the motorway at 70mph the engine isn't running. Enjoy it when you get it.

@riccccccardo

Жыл бұрын

Yep u can’t feel it.

thanks for the insight of how they work, i was put off by that high reving now i understand why thank you love your videos i think i will get 1 in the near future thanks.

i used to have a ford fiesta with cone and band system took some time to get used to but worked very well. enjoying your videos

Great explanation, thank you! Just wondering, what happens when the big battery in the plug in Rav4 runs out? Does the vehicle simply turn into a conventional "self-charging" hybrid? Or does it only use the engine to power the car after the battery runs out?

Good on you for following the advice to go and learn how the hybrid system works with the CVT so that then you might appreciate the simple cleverness of the system and understand why it does what it does. A big thumbs up!

i was thinking at start of your video that i will not have a clue what are you talking about but at the end great explanation plus that additional video .... i do not have a car similar to that but with your explained experience i am turning toughts to it. thanks for a proper intoduction

@PetrolPed

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure 👍

Wow, glad you’re not just another basic motoring journalist. In the Lexus NX phev which is the same tech as this, the noise isn’t much of an issue as it’s got really good sound dampening.

Thanks for that Pete - I'm thinking a long time about a PHEV and like you have never been a fan of CVT's, that's why a tried the Niro 'Plug In' because it has a 6 speed auto, but found it a bit under powered. I'm quite keen to try this one because it sounds really clever.

Thank you for all the reviews for this car - extremely useful. We have one on order to replace our current 2019 RAV4 Hybrid. You have confirmed our thinking of EV for local journeys. Glad you like it. Happy New Year.

@PetrolPed

Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

Best explanation of the ECVT I have ever heard! Thanks

@PetrolPed

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Sir Pete great video and thank you for revisiting this and explaining more in depth how this all works. Was a very informative video!! U rock Sir Pete

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pal 👊

Thanks for making this follow up! I currently drive the Outlander PHEV and it has that similar hi rev sound. I’m now looking to replace and was unsure if I wanted another ‘high rever’ but having seen your very honest follow up here I have a new appreciation and RAV4 here I come!

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear 👍

@leemorris3805

2 жыл бұрын

I have had two Mitsubishi Outlander PHEVs... currently have a 2019 model. The transmission works in the same way as the RAV4 PHEV, and displays similar properties. However I think the RAV is probably the better vehicle in terms of quality and design, and certainly in terms of power output and EV only range. My Outlander lease comes to an end next year so I'm considering options. The RAV4 is on the list but its a huge increase in price to what I have been paying so I'm not sure its feasible. I might look at the Tucson PHEV, but im also considering extending the lease on the Outlander for another couple of years. If price wasn't an issue I'd go for the RAV4. Great video!

Great video Ped, I can't wait to get my hybrid now through the motabily scheme. I know it's not the full phev, but I'm still excited. Keep up the great content 👏

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy 👍

Top update, great explanation, guess I’ll keep it on my next car list, loving the MPG, still a great looking car but now I know it also has intelligence.

Every day’s a school day, thanks for the info, enjoyed learning about the tech.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed 👍

Thanks for the explanation! I have a 2018 RAV 4 Hybrid, which I love, but didn't know how the system selected the correct ratio. As a challenge, could you explain how the "manual" gear selection works?

I appreciate the explanation. I also didn't realise the gearbox was different these days.

Hi this was a very interesting video about gear box of the RAV4 I have been driving hybrid cars for a long time and soon I’ll be getting a RAV4 Hybrid SOL so I am familiar with the high rev in the engines of all the hybrid cars I have driven after I test driven a RAV 4 the other day the comfort and drive was so smooth look forward to my new 2022 RAV 4

Excellent video, thank you. I have a 2019 RAV4 hybrid Excel and love it. Before that I had a 2017 RAV4 hybrid and Toyota have improved on each gen. I have got used to the higher revs and don't notice it. Toyota are now offering a 10 year warranty providing the car is serviced by themselves each year. The ecvt is near enough bullet proof. I wish I could afford the PHEV but it's a little over my price point. Thank you for your comments.

@kencatchpole5063

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t have a PHEV so would need the standard petrol hybrid. Is it the same gearbox in both

@MrPeteJMc

2 жыл бұрын

@@kencatchpole5063 yep same ecvt. Every thing is the same apart from a bigger battery and an upgraded inverter to push more power to mg2 and the rear motor. This gives a 301 hp to the 219 hp of the regular hybrid.

As one of the chief pedants on your previous RAV4 video, well done on a good explanation! "It doesn't sound right" is exactly the reason why car enthusiasts don't like hybrids. Despite hybrids actually being very responsive - making great use of the (rather limited) engine power.

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

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You got my subscribtion for this HONESTY. Thanks you very much from Montréal Québec Canada

Great explanation of how the Toyota/Lexus e-CVT works and at the beginning, I suspected you’d also watched the fantastic video on the Weber Auto channel, and then you confirmed later on. I found that power train very smooth in a Lexus IS300h and very well suited to UK roads.

You easily earned a subscriber with this video of yours! This RAV4 with the hybrid AWD system is also very capable off the road for what it is. With the capability and efficiency it provides, it makes up for a perfect road trip car no matter the conditions!

@PetrolPed

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub and welcome ti the channel 👍

The Toyota Hybrid Synergy drive is an amazing bit of kit, mixing an internal combustion engine with two electric motors using a planters gear sytem to give a variable ratio transmittion with, I hear, ultimate reliability. As you mentioned, a hybrid that does 100miles then drops back on petrol would suit many people and is a great interim transition to full electric cars in the future. I tried a Mazda MX30 last year and really liked it. It has been slated by many as having too short a range, but if Mazda fit the range extender as promised, I think this car has a lot of potential. Remember the BMW i3 REX.

🤔😉 Well Ped! Finally you've understood! I did reply to you that I bought an older Auris, 2015 and I struggled to appreciate this ..."slipping clutch syndrome"! Being an ancient BMC degreed apprentice, I did my research too! I understood then what you've just described and it's still mind blowing 7 years later! In fairness, you did like my comments earlier but I didn't even try to go into detail! So happy that you, too, have finally got the full picture! 👌

@PetrolPed

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers John 👍

Great candor and update.. I was in the same position regarding CVT’s… much more to them than 30 years ago… from an automotive engineer 👍

Very good video. I feel gearbox enlightened, happy with my choice of a Rav4 which is about to arrive. Thank you 🙂

I’m just over the 5000 mark on my xse, I never really understood the inner workings until today, I knew already that it wasn’t a conventional CVT but I wasn’t sure if the high Revving nature Was completely normal until I talk to the dealer, but now I fully understand and I love the mpg, Anyway thanks for the time you took to fully explain it

I’ve driven several CVT cars, including an AC Invacar,, a Daf 44 and a Dodge Calibra, and hated them. I’m hoping to move to the USA later this year and having watched your video I am intrigued. I think I’m going to have to have a test drive in a RAV4 as Toyota sell them on the other side of the pond too. Thanks.

Great explanation, keep the awesome content coming !!!

Good video. The direction of rotation is not what determines if a motor generator is generating or consuming power. For example when in EV mode and accelerating vs decelerating with regen the MG2 is rotating the same direction, however the power flow is reversed. This is actually accomplished by the inverter controlling the phase relationship or timing between the permanent magnets in the rotor and the rotating magnetic field generated in the stator, in one case this rotating field is accelerating the rotor, in the other case it is decelerating the rotor. It is simple in principle and complex in details at the same time. It is a fascinating system! Weber Auto is great.