You're sharing unique information, providing car enthusiasts with viable, affordable 4 cylinder swap alternatives to the k series, doing the r&d with a strong focus on affordability. Those subs are well deserved dude. I'm nowhere near to doing anything with this info but I still find it very interesting. Thanks.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i'm so excited about getting the numbers for this because it really is an affordable, easy to build combo that anyone can do.

@chacaman

27 күн бұрын

Fuc... K Series!

I know just enough to be able to explain how little I understand about the impressive feat I just watched. Nice work!

Watching a genius at work...

The subs you have are well-deserved. Personally, I've always been interested in the potential of Toyota AR engines. I thought it was a grave mistake that Toyota didn't make a 3rd-gen Corolla XSE with a slightly souped-up 2AR to compete with the Civic SI. With so many viable routes for modification (stroker/1AR, bigger cams, and the 2AR-FXE high CR) as you've shown, I'm sure more will be excited. Heck, the miata community was even willing to explore, and create a kit for, the Ecotec 2.4l as a "cheap", large-displacement swap. There's absolutely no reason why the 1/2AR cannot match or even exceed the Ecotec and challenge the K20/24.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you i appreciate it :) It is odd that Toyota will develop something like the Corolla Blade Master but not something like this.

@reneneron2971

3 жыл бұрын

The market for sports cars is extremely small in the United States, which is likely why Toyota doesn't do it. Would be very easy and cheap for them to do so. Even TRD is no more.

Really love all the work you are doing for the ZZW30. It seems like every year more and more stock parts keep getting discontinued, but you’re here breathing new life into the platform every day. You are the hero we don’t deserve. I also have been meaning to ask if you prefer RTV for the timing cover, oil pan, etc. or Toyota’s black FIPG.

You deserve the subscriptions with your amazing content! I'm excited to see this thing on the dyno!

Glad you're keeping us up to date Mark!

These r&d videos are definitely helping increase your subs. Keep it up!

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

I really do like doing this kind of thing and posting it up when i have it. Thanks for watching :)

Most exciting video I’ve seen. Huge thanks for showing this part.

You deserve even more subs than you've got, seems like each video is more impressive than the last! Definitely going to be swapping an AR engine in once my 1ZZ lets go.

@michaelscholten9753

3 жыл бұрын

If you do it now you can sell the 1zz...

@gbrav24

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelscholten9753 Yeah, would be nice. My 1ZZ is burning oil at an insanely high rate, wouldn't feel good about myself if I sold it as a running engine.

Watching you think this through out loud is how I feel when I am solving something as well.That the answer should be easy, but somehow I am making it more difficult!

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, this whole thing should have been a lot easier but now i have the offsets (1 and 11) so it'll be easy to build a 2nd one.

Can’t wait to see the results. Already looking for a spyder to load one of these motors in.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, I'll be happy to supply parts whenever you do find a spyder. Good luck on the hunt!

@o-meg-a6043

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks that’s the plan!

Awesome. About ready to pull my 2ZZ and replace it with this engine. I trust that after you do the tuning on the aftermarket ECU, you will reclock the cam position sensors so that the stock ECU can work. And I thought I did a lot of MR2 engine removals...

Oh god the suspense.... Gotta see that on the dyno. Please get us some good sound clips when it's there! I'm also curios how it sounds at idle :D

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

We should know idle relatively soon. but don't worry i will bring all the recording gear to the dyno :)

Exciting stuff!

Keep up the good work!

Im rather impressed with the number that this motor can potentially have. Anthing over 250hp would be extremly impressive for a stock motor. When you get into more aggresive performance mods this motor is going to be a beast. Thank you for all the info you are providing. Its gold

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

At the end of the day this motor has huge ports and very large valves so we certainly aren't at it's naturally aspirated limit yet. If i hit that 290hp number i will likely see about doing an ITB setup to try and get above that magic 300hp number.

@e5141981

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks love it!

So interesting! Wish I could put it back in my hybrid like that!

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect your transmission would not be too pleased with this extra power. But it could be pretty fun to try :)

@journeyman291

6 ай бұрын

​@@FrankensteinMotorworks like the old saying goes... Speed cost money... How fast do you want to go?

I love the bit when you started getting it top dead center and e "ok, this cam was timed correctly - well, two teeth advances so..... clockwise." And then you stored that information in the air above your head, where it immediately evaporated. I, too, overestimate my ability to remember a bunch of stupid things at once - you should see my wiring colour changes, they're a work of art.

@mrkazman

3 жыл бұрын

Also I'd subscribe twice if i could. If you ever get to the point where you can shill for sponsors, please find Curiosity Stream first. If you recommend them, I'll get them. And another account for my dad.

Very nice! I don’t know how you do it but my head already hurt by watching how you time it lol. Can’t wait to see it. Maybe if you put the engine together and people might buy it to do swap lol

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, i ended up having to call it a night a bit early for how much this thing made my head hurt. it should have been easier than this.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Also, i am seriously considering potentially doing these engine builds for others and selling them. I gotta see the numbers first.

Good stuff

Personally, I like the giant timing wheel.

Timing wheels really oughta come with pentagrams and other runes on them, always feels like straight witchcraft. Not nearly the dark sourcery of automatic transmission rebuilding, but it still contorts new and strange folds in my brain whenever l try too hard to understand it.

I don’t even own a Toyota or anything I would want to swap a Toyota engine into… yet… but this is interestingly… uh… interesting! Thank you for the videos!

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

even moreso after i raced it last weekend. This thing was an absolute beast. i will be making a video on that shortly

@VictorMPR

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks Just out of curiosity… why not go with the dual VVTi? Doesn’t the TC have dual VVTi? Maybe yank it off that TC engine you too out of… that TC? 😅 Also… how are you locking the cam that does not have the VVTi solenoid?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

@@VictorMPR I am using dual vvt-i. at 29:55 you can see both phasers are on there and at 30:30 you can see both solenoids are installed.

@VictorMPR

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks I see! I got confused by you saying you were not going to use an exhaust VVTi solenoid… somehow I didn’t hear you say you were going to use the intake VVTi solenoid instead. I had to go back and “listen good”. Thanks for the clarification!

That moment when learning how to degree cams on japanese inline 4 motorcycles from the late 70s with a degree wheel, coat hanger, butchered spark plug with a dull long bolt through it, and a dial indicator pays off..again. But yeah, it was a lot easier with just slotted cam cogs. Factoring in the VVT makes my head hurt, but is the gist of it that, as rpms rise, you need to advance the opening on the cam to give the air a little more time to reach the much faster spinning engine? You've got a super clever idea for building power on the cheap. Hope it doesn't detonate. But hey, there is always e85? Thanks for sharing.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it honestly made my head hurt a bit but I got it in the end. and yeah being able to dynamicaly re-time the cams makes the torque band much wider. it ends up adding 15-20% more power in the mid range over a motor with the same cams tuned for peak power only.

@briancorrigan5350

3 жыл бұрын

VVT is the gift that keeps giving. Thanks for the walkthrough.

I have to set the timing on my cams for the widowmaker build. My lord I was afraid math would creep up. I have so many questions LoL. First, how do you degree a camshaft again? I'm going to watch this 4 or 5 times again.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Why do you have to manually set the timing? i would expect your aftermarket cams to just need to be timed via the colored chain links and be done with it.

keep up the good work!

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, i will :)

Do you think using a 2arfxe block with 2ar/1ar heads would work? I know you wouldn’t get the duration advantage with the 2arfxe cams but assuming the heads are interchangeable we should still see a higher compression with maybe a small increase in power on a stock ECU without having to screw with the cams? Or at that point a 1arfe in its entirety might just be the way to go? Sorry if you already saw this comment. Think my old one never posted. Unsure.

This has me rethinking how I did my 1nzfxe in my aw11. It is also exactly what I am planning for my sw20. I have been searching for a good engine for about a month now. How do you find such good deals?!?!?! I can only find them for roughly double what you paid.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

car-part.com, row52.com, autotempest.com and finally e-bay.com is really helpful in finding parts. Many people just search e-bay so the parts there are usually more expensive because of the higher demand.

You are writing your tune on a stock ecu?

Are there any heads for the AR series that uses d4-s injection? To my understanding timing of port and direct injection is what prevents knock for those high compression engines, not sure if that goes away with premium fuel but would love to hear your thoughts!

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

There is the 2AR-FSE but it is not available in the USA

How do you think this setup would respond to boost reliability wise? Compression too high you think?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

After i get this on the dyno i'll have a better feel for the knock sensitivity at this higher compression ratio but based on the fact that people put 9-10 psi without issue on the lower compression motor then the higher compression should still be able to take a couple psi of boost. But you might be able to use the atkinson nature of this motor to reduce the compression ratio through the knock sensitive portion of the map (if there is one) while keeping the turbo mostly spooled up and then still have boost available as soon as you exit that region.

Are you planning to use the stock or aftermarket ECU?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

For this one i have to use a Haltech Elite 1500 ECU because the cam trigger position is not stock. but the intention is to make it so this works on a stock ECU also.

I do want to ask, what about swapping a 2arfe into an sw20? Would it not be a direct swap/close to? I’m a Datsun guy not an mr2 guy so let me knowシ

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

the motor is small enough to fit in there but nobody has confirmed if the stock position hits the strut tower or not. it might need a different rotation than stock.

I've never really understood VVT. If you advanced the mechanical timing, having the valve open sooner...wouldn't the valve then also close sooner cutting off the intake stroke? Does the cam actuate fast enough to keep the valve on the cam lobe for every single cylinder on every stroke at 7200rpm??

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

The cam does not move that fast. it does just move where the cam is open. but the way air acts you can use it's inertia to pack more into the cylinder. for example if you leave the intake valve open as the piston is in it's compression stroke it will sometimes pack more air in. then on the exhaust, adding in some overlap can help suck through some of the intake air to clean out the cylinder fully so there is nothing left in there. it's a pretty delicate balance but vvt-i allows you to tweak it on the dyno and get somewhere pretty nice.

@reneneron2971

3 жыл бұрын

Also, remember that Toyota is using the 2ARFXE as an Atkinson cycle engine, which improves fuel efficiency at the expense of HP...fuel efficiency is the name of the game on a hybrid motor. They are increasing the expansion ratio of the engine by having the compression stroke be shorter than the exhaust stroke, simply by leaving the inlet valves open during part of the compression cycle. The effective compression ratio is less than the 12.5:1 in actual operation as a result of this when operating as a hybrid motor.

Slightly OT: Can the same be done with a 2GR using parts from the FKS or FXE? Wondering how complex tuning would be with port/direct injection. 13:1 compression on the engines from the Lexus GS 450h tho...

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

yes and no, i just got a 2GR-FXE intake cam and it is quite large but it can't easily be installed in the exhaust position for a few different reasons.

@VertigoGTI

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks any chance it might make its way into a video or is it too much of a roadblock to pursue further?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

@@VertigoGTI It likely will. it's all dependent on how well this 2ar-fxe does first. I ordered the intake cams as a result of me measuring the 2ar's intake cams.

2ZR-FXE camshaft will apply on 1ZZ FE engine ??

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea but if i had to guess one way or another i'd say no they won't fit.

Do you answer questios from comment section?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 ай бұрын

I do my best but if it's a technical question you're better off sending me an e-mail through the website so i can respond in long form without dealing with youtube's comment filters.

1:50. You bought a giant one because you knew it would film better! ;)

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

*lol* perhaps :) i guess there was no doubt about the readability eh?

Do you think something like this is possible with the 2ZR-FXE. Its sibling the 2ZR-FE was also in the Elise according to wikipedia. And this engine is a dime a dozen now

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 жыл бұрын

It certainly could be but that's the kind of thing that someone just has to try in order to confirm if it works or not.

@CedricParker

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks I was talking to a mechanic over the weekend, who used to do track prep work on lotus's but now does a lot of refurbishing and service work on Toyota hybrids. He had mentioned that if you took the 2zz head and the 1.8L head from the Prius and sat them next to each other it would be hard to tell a difference between the 2. Which ultimately led me down a rabbit hole to your video. I might give it a try, a Prius with a dead battery could be a fun lemons car .

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 жыл бұрын

@@CedricParker if you go down that road please share how light a prius is without the battery. i think it would be a really light chassis and a great place to start.

Would the same thing work on the 2ZR-FXE?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

Жыл бұрын

i don't know for sure but based on what i've seen and heard it certainly seems like it would.

@hectorae86

Жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks ct200h's and prius' are way more common here (Netherlands) and so are the engines of course. Thinking of buying a ct and seeing what bumping up the power on that engine will do to the hybrid powertrain.

How much would you charge me to do this if I bought a fxe?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 жыл бұрын

Kyle, we can certainly talk about this but we need to discuss more details first. Send me an e-mail and we can discuss the details: Marc@FrankensteinMotorworks.com

What about axles and manual trans for an sw20 swap.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 жыл бұрын

I will be making a motor mount for the SW20 to swap in the AR motor but the SW20's transmissions directly support the AR motor so there's no need for an axle or transmission swap.

@thomasiturraran3623

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks both manual and automatic?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasiturraran3623 I have no idea on the automatic. Since it bolts to the 3s and the 5s motor there's a really good chance it will also bolt to the AR but the only guarantee is that the dowel pins will align properly.

@thomasiturraran3623

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks Thanks!

I went 2 teeth with the 1nzfxe.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

that's what i was fully expecting but i checked and checked and it looks like two covers what i need but keep in mind i'm still using the wide vvt-i phaser to i mechanically advanced it 20 degrees but i can hydraulically advance it another 50 degrees.

@mr220v

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrankensteinMotorworks Less is definitely better here. I'm assuming the cam tooth is going to be hitting too early. You might be able to mill a little bit off the tooth to keep it in line.

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr220v I'm just going to use a haltech ECU to see how much power it can make. but yes i will have to come up with a solution to change the pattern if i run this on a stock ECU at a later date.

Instructions unclear, bought a big timing wheel

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

perhaps you can use it to make pizza? :)

Are you on Instagram?

@FrankensteinMotorworks

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, i am not