Two pharmaceutical companies in Japan have caught cheating and lying too just last months. Seems like they abusing their reputation.

I'd rather they give us slightly more emissions with a vehicle that lasts 200K miles than a vehicle that give us slightly less emissions but needs a new engine head after 50K miles. When a vehicle lasts longer, there is less waste to have to replace the vehicle and benefits the consumer having lower cost of repairs.

@jumpman83

14 күн бұрын

This is what's known as a false dichotomy.

@vandur2322

14 күн бұрын

Not it's not. For example alot of new cars have direct injection because they are chasing emissions/efficiency at the expense of carbon clogging. Not a problem if you dump your car every 5 years I guess

@famicomnintendo

14 күн бұрын

I would also prefer a more reliable car. But depending on how much you drive, multiplied by the difference in fuel efficiency, you might be polluting more by keeping the old car. Cars can be recycled either for spare parts or materials. But it's probably much cheaper to keep the older vehicule

@ShaiyanHossain

14 күн бұрын

it makes sense for americans to keep older vehicles around since our infrastructure is built upon everyone needing to drive everywhere. In Europe/Asia people don't need to drive everywhere so much so they can make do with keeping older cars off of the road @@famicomnintendo

@vandur2322

14 күн бұрын

@@famicomnintendo the only way that would be true is if the new car didn't use any fuel. Even electric cars are going to be using power generated by fossil fuels

Punishment for meeting a higher standard than the US? WTF? Nothing wrong with meeting or EXCEEDING. Compare that with VW diesel.

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

CNN: "Using a timer to set off airbags during some frontal collision tests, instead of relying on an on-board sensor to detect a hit." BBC: "It has also been accused of using modified vehicles during safety collision tests."

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

And they stop the production of some cars

@ohhappyday4868

2 күн бұрын

The fact that companies dealing with consumers lied is a serious problem. In other words, they can deceive other things, such as the safety of their products. A small thief becomes a big thief. A murderer who killed one becomes a serial killer.

The bot comments are getting wild. Weirdly specific

Wonder why Automotive press channel never bring this kind of contents up. Good Job Kirk.

@KirkKreifels

14 күн бұрын

He's too busy haha! He has a real job.

@rightlanehog3151

14 күн бұрын

@@KirkKreifels 😉

@NathanArnold-sf7gx

14 күн бұрын

They too busy getting paid by the evil CCP regime to promote / propaganda Chinese junk. Autoline Daily aka Chinaline Daily with its CCP sponsors is notorious! 🩸💉🇨🇳🩸💉🇨🇳

@ytsux9259

14 күн бұрын

Vietnamese sista 😆

@raycordero01

14 күн бұрын

Actually, Mr. David Koichi (Automotive Press) is in Japan in a tour through Toyota Manufacturing Plants. And he has a secular job as Mr. Kirk stated before… He could bring additional information… Let’s see…

A 👎🏼 for saying Nothingburger

Still only buying Honda’s!!! I had a 1995 GMC Diesel Suburban. It cost me over $72,000 I repairs over 10 years. GM offered me $1,500 off my next GM😂😂😂 I have been buying Hondas ever since. I have a 2017 Honda Pilot Touring with over 300,000 kms and no problems.

@SpyderBlackOfficial

14 күн бұрын

Driving my 99 accord v6 coupe. 150k miles. Drives like I drove it off the lot

@jimmousseau2765

14 күн бұрын

@@SpyderBlackOfficial can’t beat a Honda.

@johnnybaum7957

13 күн бұрын

I gave up on the Honda. Old ones are nice... new ones have too much recalls and problems. Go Toyota. Toyota is the most reliable.

@xiaoleixiong9104

13 күн бұрын

Maybe you could try BYD Shark

Move along . There's nothing to see here . Sounds like a witch hunt.

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

CNN: "Using a timer to set off airbags during some frontal collision tests, instead of relying on an on-board sensor to detect a hit." BBC: "It has also been accused of using modified vehicles during safety collision tests."

All these tightening global and fed regulations are just making it harder and harder for these engineers to solve

@James-pl2oy

13 күн бұрын

@@user-go8vi5lb6u totally. I had a near run-in myself. Car was equipped with auto lane keeping assist. There was a careless driver who was swerving into my lane so I made an evasive maneuver and veered right. Since it was an emergency I didn’t have time to turn on my blinkers. The car thought I was driving carelessly so it tried to correct me by forcing me in my original lane. Had to brake in order to avoid a collision. Scary and frustrating at the same time. Turned it off immediately after that incident. Sometimes these Nannies do more harm than good

Sounds like Toyota actually made their tests harder then the standard and then just said they tested to the standard. So what?

@mrgurulittle7000

14 күн бұрын

That’s what it was because Daihatsu left without having to issue one recall.

@NexaTrade

14 күн бұрын

lol fanboys

@mrgurulittle7000

14 күн бұрын

@@NexaTradefanboys✅ fact checkers✅ You’re actually right.

@codincoman9019

13 күн бұрын

Well written. The Japanese manufacturers are building the best cars in the world, leading the rankings in reliability, low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), longevity etc. This "scandal" (that didn't affect at all customers' safety) is tiny vs. the ones that involved the European, Korean and Chinese groups. I shall continue to buy the best cars of the segments I need my cars to be, this means Japanese champions.

@tocreatee3585

13 күн бұрын

this is how bureaucracy works, they make law and regulations but they have no clue what to do. and when they retire they get to become executive of toyota or honda.

I expected much worse after reading the title and hearing the intro.

@CelestialTrieye

14 күн бұрын

kirk the chubby chipmunk is integrity personified, didn't you know

@KubanKevin

14 күн бұрын

I mean it is pretty bad

@mrgurulittle7000

14 күн бұрын

@@KubanKevinFor Toyota that is. Doesn’t hurt the consumers one bit. In fact it revealed just how overbuilt Toyota’s were.

@kfx3907

13 күн бұрын

@@mrgurulittle7000Keep defending that junk😂

@codincoman9019

13 күн бұрын

Lexus is #1 in reliability (according to Consumer Reports annual reliability surveys for the last few years) and #3 in low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership)!!! While Toyota is #2 in reliability and #1 in low TCO, Mazda is #3 in reliability and #6 in low TCO, Honda is #4 in reliability and #5 in low TCO, Acura #5 in reliability and #8 in low TCO, Subaru #6 in reliability and #7 in low TCO etc. These rankings and their longevity are reflected in their top resale values, far above Chinese, Indian, Korean clunkers. But there are many that didn't read or/and didn't understand the news: the small tricks played by these Japanese manufacturers didn't affect customers' safety at all, they just avoided stupid "green" limitations placed by the governments (pretending to save the planet, but actually being pushed down our throats - to lead us to poverty and tighter control).

What are my choices? GM, Ford, stellantis(Jeep, Chrysler, Ram) ???🙄

meh, will still buy a toyota

@DJG37S

14 күн бұрын

Glad some one will buy a bad product. Go look at the V6 Turbos Toyota just released. The bearing wear is so insane that it is causing blown engines and blocks. There was a guy who did a deep a dive and the new Toyota engine has some huge reliability issues.

@djplonghead5403

14 күн бұрын

@@DJG37Sdon’t buy stuff with that engine… gotta buy something with the good v6.

@kksan

14 күн бұрын

Only because here in the US we have very limited options due to tariffs against foreign imports

@John-kx3ng

14 күн бұрын

Oh what a feeling!

@HiPlains1

14 күн бұрын

@@kksan Chicken tax only affected small trucks. Even that does not effect the tacos made in Mexico or San Antonio. Not sure how but they finally got around that 25 percent tax. Also Nissan was able to produce a new VQ 3.8 DI motor for the Frontier which has no turbos and based off proven VQ reliability. Also GM's 2.7T is overbuilt like a diesel. Its been used for years and is bullet proof. In short, only ones to blame are the bone head engineers at Yota that don't know what they are doing. Facts. The 3.4 is a shitty motor with design defects. They tried to copy Ford's ecoboost tech and even shared some of that technolgy with them in return for Yota's hybrid tech. But in the end, they failed miserably.

Hey Kirk , what's going on with Tundra 3.4 V6 and its 100,000 Recalls ?🤔

@MeltingRubberZ28

14 күн бұрын

Who needs main bearings

Sounds like Toyota got punished by setting AND passing tougher standards than what the auto industry wanted. So, their tests were above the standard and they got punished? OK, I rather buy that batch of cars then another batch that only pass regular standard tests

@MrSamPhoenix

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, it’s like the governments want us to have unreliable cars smh

@LCCATCX

13 күн бұрын

That is NOT what happened. Toyota used modified car with re-enforcement and extra structure that was NOT present in the production cars to conduct the test! I don't understand everyone here keeps saying Toyota passed harder tests? If true, how can that be a scandal and why would CEO apologise??

@MrSamPhoenix

13 күн бұрын

@@LCCATCX oh wow

@chewie94116

12 күн бұрын

@@LCCATCX Because they were not following rules. That's it. Because they changed the rules to make it harder to pass. Can't change the rules.

@LCCATCX

12 күн бұрын

@@chewie94116 Where do you get that from? Does it even make sense to you? Why does the CEO need to apologise? If the cars meet higher standards, all they need to do is to re-test the cars with easier test. Why do they need to suspend the production of 3 models? Go read some real news from established agencies.

I think these tests are only done on the company side. The government does not check afaik. That’s why it might be a bit more important.

I only care if they cheat the regular consumers like us. If they were caught in bed with Ford, I’ll just laugh and move along. The dealerships are a bigger problem.

"Cheating" in the title is not a "no nothing" contradiction. I think I'm missing something. Are ypu saying the standards Toyota used are higher than required? Then what's the problem?

@davidiwata7063

14 күн бұрын

The media hates Toyota.

@d1sturb3d119

14 күн бұрын

@@davidiwata7063 Bingo! Always heavy critique around the brand that builds cars that actually work.

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

CNN: "Using a timer to set off airbags during some frontal collision tests, instead of relying on an on-board sensor to detect a hit." BBC: "It has also been accused of using modified vehicles during safety collision tests." And they stop the production of some cars

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

​@@d1sturb3d119bingo on what? They stop the production of some cars

An airbag that pops before it crashes. That's the new technology of Toyota

Much ado about nothing. Since the late 1970's you could put your nose up to the tailpipe of a well maintained Toyota and not smell much because the exhaust is so clean.

@mt-ec4uf

14 күн бұрын

NOT recommended...

So their tests were much more tough… and they’re getting punished for it?!?

The pr and marketing of Toyota, complete disaster, for years now. But I don't see much of a problem. Read the press statement, tgey tested harder than regulations .....

@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY982

14 күн бұрын

You are very much right.

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

And yet they suspended the production of their 3 models

The stricter you push emission controls (and they get stricter every year), the more unreliable the the vehicle will be (causing vehicle to run lean) or have worse performance (see what Euro 4 and 5 did to motorcycles). This ridiculous green push is to destroy ICE industry and control the population with E vehicles which will not save the environment because E vehicles will not be fixed or used when the warranty expires compared to much more affordable maintainable ICE vehicles. That's why you don't see early Teslas driven anymore. Also, we can force this anti-freedom, anti-human, anti-free market green push onto all Western nations and the global emissions will still not be reduced much due to China and India polluting the most. Fact is most cars and bikes are clean as they ever been. We still need oil to power factories, lubricate vehicles, use in trucks, ships, planes for the next 100+ years. You will not see a battery powered plane anytime soon. So, stop supporting this societal self destructive green agenda which isn't about saving the environment but about controlling ppl. Do not accept a worse vehicle caused by politicians that hate ppl's freedoms and want to lock us down again.

@ShaiyanHossain

14 күн бұрын

the real solution is to fund public transportation and divest from western corporations taking advantage of cheap labor laws in China/India to pollute there instead :)

@KehY91

14 күн бұрын

World economic forum elite's communist agenda under the guise of saving the planet

@mrsoisauce9017

13 күн бұрын

I say we scale up e-fuels and make their production more efficient and cheaper. The emissions problem is very much a problem, so we need to take very alternative we can

Man every time they have problems with Toyota I think this is getting personal

Those metrics should not even be there in the first place.

Akio is still a Legend

@nick.i.am97

14 күн бұрын

Akio

@vancity2349

14 күн бұрын

He is running the show the other guy is a puppet.

@aeronYTco

14 күн бұрын

He’s still Morizo no matter what.

@AuralioCabal-nl8gi

14 күн бұрын

Legend in FAILURE as a CEO.😂

@aeronYTco

14 күн бұрын

@@AuralioCabal-nl8gi Nope. He’s right after all. Carbon is the enemy; not the internal combustion engine. 🤓

It's a Japanese corporate culture that can be solved if the chairman comes out and says sorry for bending down 90 degrees, right?

Wow, great summary.

I wonder if they did it willingly because they knew the profit margins would still be higher than the fines. Similar to the league of legends and mobile legends thing.

If the testing was not done properly, how can you continue to claim they are safe or meet the reg?

The bigger the game, more likely to find bad players. Still going to get my Grand Highlander once allocated.

MT09? Nice. I’m thinking about getting back on a motorcycle but I’m looking at smaller bikes.

In other news, volcanoes are not meeting emissions regulations. Not a little.

This comment section is biased, Japanese car makers are resisting innovation and change and whoever does that will fail, if not domestically then externally as what is become being called the wasted 10 years, this comment section is less tech focused but still apply to cars. American car makers lack execution but have conscious and ideas of the situations. It will affect the general public, way more in tech and finance sector chose of cars, as well as just people who are more sophisticated. It affect less the sentiment in US, but China and Asia sales runs a lot more on incidents and sentiments per week or month. It affect sales as much as 5000 cars to 10000 cars of a simple model folllowing an incident of which reported the door didnt unlock after accident

I think we still get the Mazda 2 it was sold as the Yaris ia

When you look at the details of this "scandal" you realise its a non story in the real world. Japanese cars will always be my default choice here in the UK 🇯🇵💪

None of these issues are a big issue. Just the Government making it an issue.

Mazda - Cars only for Japan market - They have different requirements in Japan - Move along nothing to see here US. Mazda is incredible auto manufacturer.

My 2017 Sienna just opened by itself on highway 4 years ago, traded with a 2020 Kia Sportage so far so good

Yamaha has made engines for Toyota in the past, such as the Vibe GT (yes, Pontiac Vibe was actually a Toyota) and the Toyota Matrix R or whatever the higher performance Matrix was called. I'm sure Yamaha made engines for other Toyota's also.

As for Toyota, there was no problem whatsoever with the safety of the cars in question, and the apology was merely made out of consideration for the reputation of the MLIT.

It’s a nothing burger 🤷🏼‍♂️

More like doing more what sadly was not in the rules but all safe for consumers at the end.

Makes me want a toyota more politicians just wants to get millions in fines

@tocreatee3585

12 күн бұрын

They rather have a possession in executive board. they like to be paid personally. fines wont go into their pocket.

Kirk, You may think this is a minor scandal but I have a MAJOR problem any time the good name of the Honda Fit Shuttle or Toyota Corolla Fielder gets dragged through the mud.

@JamaicanMeCrazy

14 күн бұрын

Sold my Fielder hybrid as I had to move... Now there's nothing like it in USA

@aaronjaggan

14 күн бұрын

​@@JamaicanMeCrazynever thought a fielder can be used in the USA

@JamaicanMeCrazy

14 күн бұрын

@@aaronjaggan it can't. I sold it in Jamaica when I moved stateside. Wish I had it though. It really is awesome. Compact SUV inside small sedan outside hybrid fuel efficient Toyota reliability. Nothing like it here

@ShaiyanHossain

14 күн бұрын

Prius V? @@JamaicanMeCrazy

@rightlanehog3151

14 күн бұрын

@@JamaicanMeCrazy Of all the Corolla wagons we cannot buy, the Fielder is at the top of my list.

So did Honda And Mazda. I will still take a Camry over alot of other choices available. Looking to also switch my Sorento for a RX

Nothing burger… next time put some ketchup on it

"Toyoda, the grandson of the company’s founder, suggested some certification rules might be overly stringent, noting such tests differed around the world. But he repeatedly said he wasn't condoning the violations." (AutoBlog). It sounds like they feel it is a big kudo about a very complex process no one should be expected to be perfect on. The fellow knows his stuff as they say - but he has to be concerning as it is so integrated into the company over decades of behavior.

I’ll always love you Mazda, I don’t care ❤

Safe to drive but not safe for pedestrians. As SUV trucks grow in size I am not surprised.

the word on Wall Street is Toyota will have a much tougher second half of 2024, and stock prices reflect that (down 23%). If you're wanting a Toyota, wait a bit. Prices will start falling at dealerships.

They apologize not because they feel sorry but they got caught. And there could be more lies they made beyond the caught cases.

Toyota: If I'm going down, I'm taking all ya'll with me!

It seems like unnecessary regulation is what’s broken, not Toyota.

@tocreatee3585

12 күн бұрын

have you seen Goodfellows? its like that. hit by the lightning ? FU pay me.

I wish they'd bring the 4-door Odyssey to the US. Faked testing results be damned.

Meh. Still getting the Camry😂

why the comments are only talking about emissions? These involved safety standard which is a huge deal. It might also affect our auto insurance if the vehicles are less safe.

Toyota conducted crash tests using an 1800kg standard, which meets US requirements. However, the issue arose because Japan's requirement for the test is only 1100kg. As Toyota did not adhere to the Japanese standard, they had to announce the discrepancy as fraudulent. The truth will soon be revealed by the media. Well done, Toyota.

@kevin_aldo

10 күн бұрын

CNN: "Using a timer to set off airbags during some frontal collision tests, instead of relying on an on-board sensor to detect a hit." BBC: "It has also been accused of using modified vehicles during safety collision tests." And they stop the production of some cars

Everybody wants to dethrone the king 😂 “If youre not cheating, youre not trying” 😁

Americans doesn't want to believe JDMs are falling apart with their reliability😂 They are praising JDM as if they're a god😂

I think Akio Toyoda wanted this press conference to shake up the Toyota organisation, to improve human resources & methods for next generation of engines. watch the Japanese press conference with English subtitles.

I know many other people think differently but imma still buy Toyota 😂😂

omg I better trade my Toyota in for a Dodge/ Fiat 😂

@codincoman9019

13 күн бұрын

😂

Glad they all came forward, but in the end, overtesting at Toyota is just that except for the tuning on the 2015 Lexus RX and the airbag timer ignition on 2014 Crown/2015 Isis. Mazda is interesting about the crash tests, because according to the IiHS in the USA, Mazda for example when the made the side crash test harder in 2023, only one model across the industry passed with the highest rating in the small SUV class - the CX-5 received the plus rating when no other car in that class achieved it. It seems while interesting none of these cheating really impacts anyone in the USA and only some of them impact those in Japan.

Ancient history with minimal consequences. Akio wasn't even there back then.....

Will Toyota face VW-like penalty in US?

OH BOY....hope it not bad!

Idk to me this feels like a “gotcha moment” I don’t really care about this that much and it probably won’t change my mind on what to buy in the future.

The affected vehicles are only for the Japanese market because this is a Japanese government agency requesting investigations on products sold under their jurisdiction. The Japanese government cannot issue a no-sell order on, say, a Daihatsu product made in Indonesia or a Toyota truck made in Mexico. These investigations do not necessarily mean non-JDM models are trouble-free. It's up to the country these vehicles are sold in to do their due diligence to make sure products sold there comply with local regulations. We can only know whether a USDM product is safe if NHTSA conducts random qualification tests for that product sold in the US.

Only Toyota still holds to its standards. Honda and other companies have fallen pretty far behind especially Honda in the past 10 years...

Folks. Trust us. TRUST US We are the mighty Toyota Corp. Trust yourself only. In doubt/ run.

The executives are losing their jobs, right?

I've got my Goldfish and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! One thing that I love about this channel is that Kirk isn't a mindless informercial, pushing product for his own benefit. Kirk loves Toyota but he's calls a spade a spade when he sees it. He pulls no punches and is not afraid to call BS. This is rare on KZread. Though these recalls are mostly testing irregularities, Kirk feels it warrants an alert for the rest of us. Thank you, Kirk.

Sounds like lame testing

hahahahaha. This stuff is crazy stupid. Damn luggage compartment. The heck. I'm not surprised though with all these stupid regulations and CAFE getting ridiculous. People are sick and tired of all this EV BS. I'm so sick of it too. I was at Subaru yesterday, and saw some silly EV in the show room, and I almost vomited, and the interior is just stupid.

What manufacturer doesn't cheat

@streamingvideo6654

14 күн бұрын

It's about not getting caught

We still buying Toyota !!! We will never buy Ford, Chevy, Or GM.

@irenechan7193

9 күн бұрын

Ford,Chevy or GM they don't care! The US government subsided!

Toyota already apologise sincerely, so time to move on.

Yeah quick to react on manufacturer who had been known for quality and safety yet doung nothing against chinese cars that are scantily or non at all tested

Toyota manipulated the performance again~!!! But consumers buy it again

You mean Toyota exceeded expectations? Well good for them

They all gonna get their harikiri daggers out. Sumimasen,. I have no honour

Damn just commented this lmao

Much to do about nothing.

Their like yeah we lied about all this safety stuff but it has no impact on the safety of the vehicles! These people are so stupid

@mrgurulittle7000

14 күн бұрын

It actually has no impact on the safety of the vehicles. Didn’t you see how Toyota raised the standard and still passed it? That’s not a scandal.

@codincoman9019

13 күн бұрын

I guess the stupid is the one making false claims, like you.

Toyota is amazing!

Its business as usual in the car industry ,

Buy a lot of Toyotas. America loves Toyotas. 🤣🤣

Japaneses bowed again. What is the punishment?

@ralph2710

12 күн бұрын

nothing 😂

I'm still buying a Toyota

@kfx3907

13 күн бұрын

That shows how dumb you are lol

Mazda still top for my next purchase

Toyota is King, period!

This seems like a big nothingburger to me

Hyundai & KIA are make sense.

Still will buy a Mazda

@know916bound

14 күн бұрын

Mazdas really on a rise at the moment.

@mindfullymellow2323

14 күн бұрын

I bought a CX-5 in March this year. Left Toyota after 20 years.

@mrgurulittle7000

14 күн бұрын

@@mindfullymellow2323We have three Toyotas, but we’re looking into Mazda. Mazda is the perfect middle ground between Lexus quality and Toyota prices.

@mindfullymellow2323

14 күн бұрын

@@mrgurulittle7000 - I debated buying a used Lexus, but decided I didn’t need one. Very happy with my new CX-5; smooth, nimble, and a quiet cabin. It replaced my ‘17 RAV4 that was totaled in a hit and run. Don’t miss it at all.

@mrgurulittle7000

14 күн бұрын

@@mindfullymellow2323👍👍

very dissapointed

Cheating is fine, as long as you can pay the fine

Disembow

Don't worry toyota still the best car and remember every car company are cheating not only toyota but I think toyota is still less cheating than others car company

Get the fact correctly. These scandals involve cars not for USA. Yes, Toyota new turbo engines are suspect.

@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY982

14 күн бұрын

New tundra does have issues but will be fixed soon and new turbo I4/hybrid turbo I4 are more than fine engines and no issues whatsoever. However I agree with you those so called scandals don't involve cars for USA

@thomaskim5008

14 күн бұрын

@@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY982 Are you the God? What is the next lottery numbers? How do you know it will be fixed? Turbo I4 came out 2 or 3 years ago. How do you know the reliability of these?

@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY982

14 күн бұрын

​@@thomaskim5008 I am not very religious. but I respect other religions very much. Lottery are stupid and I don't care about them or even been interested about them. Now far as the turbo I4 and hybrid turbo I4 they are very good engines. I know lots of people who does have vehicles and including the new Tacoma with that engine.i am not some dumb car enthusiast who says nonsense. Far as the tundra come on you can't be this stupid. Look the track record. Even so called legendary engines had issues but Toyota very much fixed them.

@thomaskim5008

14 күн бұрын

@@MYLIFEISLEGENDARY982 You don’t know the future. How do you know Toyota will fix it? How about Toyotas with the problem engines they already sold? The turbo engines have out 2 or 3 years. How do you know they are reliable? I guess you use a new car for 2 or 3 years and get a new car.

@d1sturb3d119

14 күн бұрын

@@thomaskim5008 Because that is the management process used to mitigate issues. A good system leads to improvements that self correct issues that come up. Bad systems breed issues. Its as simple as that.