A shadow of what it used to be. I lived in Long Eaton and used to go there in the late 70's, it was really busy with lots of different wagons, shunters and other loco's, it was a spotters paradise with everything from Class 03's up to the Peaks. This lad I know went into the yard, nicked a uniform + cap and rode trains all day clipping passengers tickets, riding trains for free. Anyhoo, AFAIK Toton is due to be redeveloped, it'll all be gone soon.

I drove my first diesel there, my Dad knew a worker there and he took me and my Dad around for a tour. Class 47, a little 2 min into the sheds. I was only about 13! Best day. Shame about all the dead locos :(

@trainsplanes

Жыл бұрын

Good times and memories 👌👍

Those new light clusters make the sheds look demented

Thanks for posting:

The loco's all look the same now days, I definitely had the best years spotting as a kid back in the early 80,s

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed there.. Toton was definitely better in the 80’s and 90’s..!

Thoroughly enjoyed your videography of TO. Was at the open day 29th August 1998. Was on the hill, 12th October last year and hope to return to the area later this year. And all the way from Scotland

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again - Glad you enjoyed it 👍

I remember going round Toton in the early 70s ,four of us 15 year olds just walked straight down into the main shed ....eight of the 1-10 Peaks were on that day.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

I have similar memories at Crewe myself.. If only nowadays.

@terrytracey1393

2 жыл бұрын

I was working at Toton in the early 70,s. Lovely job in the Centre signal box on the ATI. (advanced train information system) which I do not suppose anyone remembers now days

@martinjay3570

2 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention it was the weekend of Derby works open day ,not sure but could have been 1973.

@JLfromEdinburgh1951

2 жыл бұрын

​@@terrytracey1393 Yes, I remember ATI! I joined the railway service as a CO.1 parcels sheeting clerk at Edinburgh Waverley. After about 9 month's service I applied for and got a CO.2 post as "Traffic Monitoring Clerk" at Cadder Yard (on the Edinburgh & Glasgow main line between Lenzie and Bishopbriggs). The Lenzie Area Manager expressed surprise that I had survived even nine months of parcels sheeting. He had started his own railway career doing parcels sheeting at Newcastle Forth. (Parcels sheeting means writing out the delivery sheets for the delivery motor drivers, who were supposed to obtain a signature for each parcel delivered.) Traffic Monitoring and ATI were both forerunners of the TOPS system, intended to improve the monitoring and control of the railway's resources. The truth is that in 1970 the railway hadn't a clue where most of its wagons were, and in fact barely knew where its locomotives were. As Traffic Monitoring Clerk I was located in the ATI room in Cadder Yard, adjacent to the Yard Master's (officially the "Yard Assistant's") office. As a CO.2 (Clerical Officer Grade 1), I was nominally in charge of the CO.1 ATI Clerk, although I wasn't yet twenty. "Traffic Monitoring", at least at Cadder Yard, turned out to be a bit of a disaster. The yard staff, from the Yard Master downward really weren't interested and gave minimal co-operation, and Regional management, having invested a lot of resources in starting the scheme, didn't seem to care whether it worked or not in practice. I found my job very frustrating: if senior management didn't care, I didn't feel justified in "shopping" hard-working shunters and inspectors. ATI on the other hand was a little bit more popular with the yard inspectors and shunters as it gave them some idea of what traffic was coming into the yard. There were ATI (Advanced Traffic Information) offices in all the major marshalling yards. ATI used the G.P.O. Telex system to send the "Consist" of departing trains to the ATI office at destination yard. A telex machine was basically a teleprinter with a dial allowing you to dial other telex machines. By the standards of the time the Telex machines in ATI offices were modern. The ATI clerk would type the consist off-line using a punched paper tape. This tape would then be used to transmit the consist to the receiving yard at a faster speed than anyone could reasonably be expected to type at. The faster the message was sent, the cheaper the telex bill. AFAIK "consist" is originally an American railroading term. It would be a fairly concise list of everything on the train. It would give the locomotive number(s) and then for each wagon on the train a code for the wagon type, the wagon number, a route code, station from, station to, contents (and maybe some other information that, 50 years later I can't remember). A very few years later ATI was replaced by TOPS (Total Operations Processing System), which was much more comprehensive. For the first time in its history it let the railway know where all its wagons were. Then, having got a system that could allow good control of wagon-load services, senior management threw all the less-than-trainload traffic away, leaving the sadly depleted freight railway that we have in Britain today. For myself I grew rapidly disenchanted with my role as "Traffic Monitoring Clerk". The local management were interested only in saving money, and they decided that an ATI Clerk was not needed on the dayshift as there were only 2 or 3 trains departing Cadder Yard requiring consists on that shift. As a result I did type quite a few ATI consists myself, despite never having been trained to touch type as the ATI clerks could. My consists were therefore all typed with one finger, something I became reasonably proficient at. (I wish I could touch type now though!!) Thoroughly disillusioned with my work in "Traffic Monitoring", I decided I wanted to become a "real" railwayman. I applied to transfer to the Wages Grades and become a Goods Guard at Cadder Yard. This was technically a demotion, but was far more satisfying than "Traffic Monitoring"! After about a year I transferred from Cadder to Glasgow Sighthill, where after about seven years as a Guard I became Staff Clerk. I eventually left the railway service in 1982, after about twelve and a half years service, to go to Glasgow University. All in all I believe I enjoyed my time with British Rail. I have to admit that I don't even know where Toton is. I think it's somewhere in the Midlands. London Midland Region to my way of thinking!! Definitely a long way south of Carlisle, which was the furthest South I ever worked! When I left the railway the newest diesels were the Class 56s, but they weren't in Scotland so I had no connection with them. I haven't really kept in touch with traction developments since. Clearly lots of diesels have come and gone since. Looking at the video I must say I'm a bit surprised that the railway still has so many diesels! There doesn't seem to be much traffic for them to haul!

Never mind about the rotting Class 60's, there are at least 40 66,s & 67,s parked up and not earning a penny.What is going on at DB CARGO?I find it a bit worrying

Its good time to go to Toton. They are supposedly short on maintenance staff at the moment so a line of locos are stacking up there for maintenance and exams etc.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Working as a mechanic has been a job role in decline for some time now - It’s similar in the motor trade, very difficult to find mechanics/technicians. Your feedback makes good sense 👍

Nice clear shots of the views ,Looks like a shunters night -mare locos having to moved all the time , should have the locos come in one end serviced and out the other !

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

There is a through route but there were so many locos there that I don’t think it could be used at the time.

Amazing video just wandering how you got onto the bridge there as it seems to be on a dual carriageway! Thanks for any help :)

Thanks for sharing, its amazing the amount of locos in there, i was on the Peaks Express at the weekend and stopped there for water and was very surprised at all the locos specially the 60s class , stacked up two rows, only seen one from the carrages, cheers .😎

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

It’s an interesting place to take in the views for 1-2 hours if you’re ever in the area - Lots of locos and general activity. Good views from the hillside also. 👍

Toton has long been an inspired location for ‘spotting’. Although the infrastructure is relatively unchanged the rolling stock has seen many classes come & go.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

It’s one of my favourites to visit. Coal replaced by Cars nowadays..

Interesting!

"Toton is a scrapyard with a depot hidden inside it."

Useful video, I’m curious as to the view you get from the west side of the depot

@trainsplanes

5 ай бұрын

They’ll be a vid on this soon 👍

@owenevans83

5 ай бұрын

I've since managed to visit, you can get good shots only of 66230 and 60071 basically, plus anything parked to the left @@trainsplanes

Is there any sensible walking route onto the A52 road bridge?

0:45 That wud make a great screensaver

Half of them are fit for the torch good the sooner the better replace with 9fs bits jingles 8fs bring back steam it is king of the rails .

What's up with all the class 60s there just rusting away?

Thanks for posting vid. Shame seems to nothing more than a sea of 66,s intermingled with a handful of 60,s. Not like l remember Toton 20,30yrs ago. Oh well.

Cripes...how many millions of pounds of machinery stood there doing sweet f.a...

nice vid

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much 👍

@craignicklin4573

2 жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes been a few times to toton, not many videos of the place.

What happens to all the rusting away locos. Do they get scraped?

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

They're likely to be scrapped now unfortunately.

Oh yes. Forgot couple of 67,s too.👍

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

66 shed's dominate the scene nowadays.. I wish it was more varied also.

OH FOR A SHRINK RAY GUN :) :) :)

which Colas Rail Freight class 67 was on that side of Toton TMD, was it Charlotte or Stella, i couldn't tell.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Hi James, it was Charlotte 67027.. Hope this helps.

@Railway.Enthusiast.1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes okay, thanks for letting me know, i thought it was Charlotte 67 027, obviously Stella 67 023 was on the other side of the depot then. i miss seeing those 2 class 67s because they are my favourites.

@perthdave100

2 жыл бұрын

@@Railway.Enthusiast.1989 ex colas 67023 and 67027 have been sold to GBRF, possible 027 is waiting for a repaint

@Railway.Enthusiast.1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@perthdave100 i think that gbrf should keep 67 027 Charlotte and 67 023 Stella both in Colas Rail Freight livery but putting the letters gbrf on a Colas Rail Freight locomotive instead.

@perthdave100

2 жыл бұрын

@@Railway.Enthusiast.1989 me thinks will be repainted to GBRF livery and name

So sad to see so many class 60s stored.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed - Shame they can't be utilised..

@737Adventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes why aren’t they?

@roywatson8133

2 жыл бұрын

waste of a good loco were the locos are stored now they should build some kind of storeage shed to prevent them from rust

All these locos be demolished??

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

The class 60’s will likely to be scrapped. 🙁

Nice video isn't dominated by sheds and such a pitty all them class 60s are sat there rotting away that probably ain't moved + been started up since around 2006 onwards hopefully some of the 60s could possibly be put back into service as they hardly seen a decade and a half's worth of mainline use in the UK + a few still plod about but they was the very last brush built locomotives in the UK in the late 1980s so from 1989 to 1993 what a waste of millions of pounds worth of potential revenue earning very powerfull locos that have plenty of life left in them that could be re-engineered or used as standard and possibly overhauled and sold abroad! To say India and other third world countries as it's a lot cheaper to refurbish older loco's than build new!!!

Deutsche Bahn in the UK!

No shortage of locos then?

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Busy Yard!

@gordonbuckley9411

2 жыл бұрын

Does anybody have a list of the 60s on the scrap line

Come from chilwell and been there many times. Organised chaos or just a complete mess?. Seems to be getting worse.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t see the logic either!

@ 18:18 Looks like 67019 hasn't been used in a long time.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

I’m going to pop back in 1-2 weeks - It’ll be interesting to see if it’s still there as it looks like it could be stored.

@r3playretro

2 жыл бұрын

Some of them locos haven't left Toton for over 10 years.

I meant jinties Black's

That's a lot of money sitting there doing nothing.

That yard should be better organised 59s one side followed by 60s followed by 66s followed by 67s scrapped units at the other end donor units along side scrapped units there is plenty of space for them to be arranged in neat orderly lines by class no excuses.

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

It did strike me also as in need of some organisation :)

@perthdave100

2 жыл бұрын

Since EWS then DBs now DBC have taken over toton, active locos are parked anywhere around the main building, the 2 long lines of 60s are the supposed scrap sidings

I just get the feeling DBS is not a particularly likable company. I may be wrong

I love the content but please stop zooming in and out and moving the camera around so much it's very disorientating I only have one eye and that's only working at minimal capacity

@trainsplanes

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback - Good to hear your thoughts. I’ll do what I can to help. Best of luck with your eye sight ongoing. 🤞

@67shelbygt500

2 жыл бұрын

@@trainsplanes thank you I look forward to watching future videos that you posted I will ring the bell as they say