I miss the screwball. That had such insane movement.

@donnyboyo32

Жыл бұрын

Devin Williams throws one he just calls it something else because the screwball has a bad reputation with injuries so he calls it an airbender

@jackweber3660

Жыл бұрын

more like insanely broken wrists

@donnyboyo32

Жыл бұрын

@@jackweber3660 he's just able to pronate his wrist naturally like that.

@aljon5947

Жыл бұрын

@@donnyboyo32 he calls it circle change because he use circle change grip. …But we all know its a screwball hes throwing

@santsthetoaster

Жыл бұрын

Screwballs are just bad for your arm because of the direction you have to spin it

Did you really pronounce gyroball like a flippin' Greek sandwich?

@kewltony

Жыл бұрын

The first time it needs to be pronounced like it's spelled

@richard_nj

Жыл бұрын

He's correct tho. The pitch is called that because it falls off the table just like my Gyro does at 3:30 in the morning when I've had too much to drink.

@TEEDUBS

Жыл бұрын

@@richard_njBest opinion 🤣🤣🤣

@rhphoenix5

Жыл бұрын

​@@richard_nj this comment wins

@markdenton3141

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he did. The kid isn’t that bright

knuckleball left the chat thanks for 1k likes

@xmanclan

Жыл бұрын

@@JustinJetsProdz yes and no to get good movement and accuracy it can be very hard

@mikeschmidt4800

Жыл бұрын

​@@JustinJetsProdzis that why no one throws it and when someone does do it well they're damn near unhittable?

@justinmclean5778

Жыл бұрын

Of course it left the chat. Nobody knows where it will end up

@santsthetoaster

Жыл бұрын

​@@JustinJetsProdz the knuckle ball is literally the hardest pitch to throw since you're doing the complete opposite of any other pitch. Don't know what you're on

@nicefam7564

Жыл бұрын

@@JustinJetsProdz what team do you pitch for?

Alternate title: Top 5 best Baseball 9 pitches

@WatermeloGT

7 ай бұрын

The circle and Vulcan change up also aren’t there😭😭😭😭😭

@othc44

7 ай бұрын

So true 😂

I love how you pronounced "gyro" like the Greek sandwich 😂

@seanyeme

Жыл бұрын

making me hungry rn 😂

@H4PPY_B0mBz

10 ай бұрын

Really not gonna five credit to bill lee for the eephus?

@nb2008nc

6 ай бұрын

I don't

That last screwball pitch of this video was absolutely sick!😮

@franzschubertv2874

Жыл бұрын

Agree! It looked fake. The others didn’t have much movement.

@xSoyPeanut

Жыл бұрын

That last pitch was a splitter

@georgefloydspaceshuttlepro1839

7 ай бұрын

Trick or camera angle

As a person who throws a palmball, it is indeed a pitch of all time

@greglindgren8197

Жыл бұрын

Palm was easy doubles

@herculesmwp7983

Жыл бұрын

@@greglindgren8197 nah…just bad pitchers

@LeviGleichenhaus

7 ай бұрын

I’m a terrible pitcher and I’m better in the outfield but I just converted from changeup to palmball and there was this kid who I faced 4 times before and he had 3 homers off me and the other was a double but I struck him out on 3 straight palm balls

@mikeskirk

7 ай бұрын

@@greglindgren8197you’ll last a lot longer in the mlb giving up doubles with palm balls than striking out batters with slurves and gyros “These pitches are not meant to be thrown by humans and destroy arms, why don’t pitchers throw them anymore?”

You can basically have an entire baseball career just based off of the knuckle ball

@somepeoplecanthandlethetruth

Жыл бұрын

Even win the occasional Cy Young.

@Bruh1

11 ай бұрын

Mickey Janis

@rockshopcookies

9 ай бұрын

@@Bruh1ra dickey

Devin Williams uses the screwball a lot. Good with it too

@coreychitwood4968

Жыл бұрын

It’s a change up

@dergin38467

Жыл бұрын

@@coreychitwood4968 you’re both right. He grips it like a change up but he pronates his wrist while throwing it, which would make it a screwball. It’s a unique hybrid pitch.

@bruce4746

Жыл бұрын

@@dergin38467 everyone pronates their change up bro that’s how you’re supposed to throw it

Man thought he was being culturally sensitive by pronouncing the Gyro ball like that xD

@justinburgan4184

Жыл бұрын

Right? Letting the internet make him sound a dummy.

@rugbird

11 ай бұрын

@gavril0_princip117 I mean, it's not the hardest word to pronounce 😆

That last screw was filthy dirty😮

@franzschubertv2874

Жыл бұрын

100%. The others were ordinary.

Forkball? That was insane

@user-lr3gv4wr7h

Жыл бұрын

Senga has a good one

The knuckle ball is the best pitch ever that nobody throws anymore.

@hokiejoe17

Жыл бұрын

NCST pitcher Andrew Shaffer throws a nasty slurve and knuckleball

@Denozo88

Жыл бұрын

Only 2 have ever won a cy young with it

@HittoTheAssassin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah catchers hated that throw. They don't know where it's going😅 shot even the Pitcher is unsure

@TheFdllznd

Жыл бұрын

Bob Uecker: "The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." 😂

@plantfeeder6677

Жыл бұрын

Phil and Joe Niekro were the greatest knuckleball throwers in my lifetime. I remember the catchers would actually switch gloves to one that was larger in diameter to have a chance at catching that pitch when either brother took the mound. Phil used that pitch for 310+ wins and a spot in Cooperstown while Joe added another 220+ making the two brothers the winniest brothers in baseball history. That makes the Knuckleball the greatest rare pitch in baseball imo.

Slurve: many pitchers have this but they call it whatever that want. Sweeping curve, looping slider, even most normal curves are closer to slurves Screwball: there’s a stigma around this pitch due to injuries that are probably unrelated but many high spin rate change ups such as Devin Williams are thrown as screwballs but aren’t called it because of the stigma

@jamesage24

Жыл бұрын

Can you explain the gyro ball? Looks like a standard sinker/split-finger to me.

Used a palm ball my entire career through college

Phil & Joe Niekro threw the knuckleball well into their 40’s. Phil retired at 48 and is in Cooperstown!!!!

No knuckle ball?

G...G....Gyro... Not Euro...! Give Matsusaka some respect!!😊😅

@livefrom201

Жыл бұрын

He’s pronouncing it like the sandwich 🤦🏻‍♂️

@nacoran

Жыл бұрын

@@livefrom201 Which would be fine, except I think it's named for the gyroscope. /Complete aside... I think the word 'hero', when it's used for a sub sandwich, probably comes from gyros.

In high school a left handed friend threw the nastiest screwball. Umpires would not call it a strike because of the end was about 6 inches away but it crossed the plate in strike zone.

Fernando made living on that pitch. Had a chance to see him pitch in Mexico, the crowd went crazy with each K. It was an awesome game.

Zack Greinke used the eephus pitch last year. Video games even have that as one of his pitches

Tug McGraw had a killer screwball back in the 70s & 80s. When on it was unhittable.

I’d consider Devin Williams “Change up” a screwball.

@possumverde

Жыл бұрын

Any variation of a circle change could be considered such. That pitch was invented to replace the screwball as it has a decent amount of movement toward the the pitchers pitching arm side.

@donnyboyo32

Жыл бұрын

He actually has a screwball and a changeup two separate pitches

@eliotjurgensen1421

Жыл бұрын

​@@donnyboyo32That's just in MLB the Show. In real life, it's only one pitch.

@ChefPoppe

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@stl-pg8mu

Жыл бұрын

I was about to say this

Tom Henke's Forkball has entered the chat...

@shaneturner1809

Жыл бұрын

Gauseman has rejuvenated it

Phil and Joe Niekro were the greatest knuckleball throwers in my lifetime. I remember the catchers would actually switch gloves to one that was larger in diameter to have a chance at catching that pitch when either brother took the mound. Phil used that pitch for 310+ wins and a spot in Cooperstown while Joe added another 220+ making the two brothers the winniest brothers in baseball history. That makes the Knuckleball the greatest rare pitch in baseball imo.

I feel like a lot of pitchers throw slurves. They’re just typically called sliders or curves depending on what the pitcher decides they’re most like to them. I think the forkball is less common than slurves as well as the knuckleball.

@hossprey

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, they just don't call it a slurve. I see a lot of emphasis on hard, sharp sliders

@drew9172

Жыл бұрын

To me the movement just depends on the arm slot. If I’m just throwing normally it’s more of a 12-6 but if I throw it like 3/4 it moves more like a slurve

@SkewtLilbttm

6 ай бұрын

They're called "sweepers" now

Devin Williams technically throws a screwball

Forkball and Vulcan change are barely talked about nowadays.

The "gyroball" has been used by many MLB pitchers all the way back to the 40's/50's. Heck, I used it in High School as a sinker. It's just a pitch with bullet spin on it. It used to be called a backed up slider (since one way to get that spin is to really screw up the release on a slider.) It looks like a straight change with a little extra velocity which seems to fall off the table just before reaching the plate.

I remember Kent Tekulve’s submarine pitch and the crazy movement that it had.

Reason people don’t throw slurves as much is because it’s a much harder pitch to master than a normal curveball

Pitchers don’t use the Screwball anymore because it does massive damage to your arm over a very short period of time.

@StairSliderReal

11 ай бұрын

Actually pitchers that have used it throw like 200 innings

@Denozo88

7 ай бұрын

​@@StairSliderRealyeah its all in the mechanics. Pitchers just aren't conditioning to go past 6 for every start.

@cubsfanman-nx6pg

6 ай бұрын

Screwball doesn't mess up your arm lol its very similar to a change up

To me these were the screwball pitching masters ... in the 1960s thru the '70s Mike Cuellar, Mike Marshall and Jim Brewer ,and in the 1980s Tug McGraw , Fernando Valenzuela & Mike Norris were the kings of the SB 👍

@PBLeagues22

3 ай бұрын

Yes, and honorable mention to Greg Maddux's 2 seamer which was basically a screwball.

@rafaelramirez1507

3 ай бұрын

@@PBLeagues22 I agree 👍

What about the knucleball?

@robertaceves5248

Жыл бұрын

Charlie Hough !!

@donarthiazi2443

Жыл бұрын

True the knuckleball is not too popular, but the video was clear that he was naming *the rarest* so the knuckler shouldn't be on the list.

@isaacwimett2846

Жыл бұрын

@@donarthiazi2443 you definitely see more slurve pitchers than knuckleballers

@donarthiazi2443

Жыл бұрын

@@isaacwimett2846 I completely agree 👍

@jackweber3660

Жыл бұрын

the knuckleball is overrated honestly, i guess it’s good for weak grounders

I used to throw this pitch in high school, my teammates would call it the Skittles pitch cuz the batters would Taste the rainbow lol

The slerve is what I threw all through highschool to save my arm for college - I had 0 issue using it - except there were some good batters that could spot it quick, in those instances, I'd bring out the junk. Damn I miss baseball...

I'd love to see the screwball make a comeback, it could really help pitchers because of the backwards break

@carlosbarajas9614

Жыл бұрын

Brent Honeywell Jr throws it

The Vulcan change pitch has left the chat

The slurve is now the sweeper.

They stopped using the screwball because it tears up your elbow. John Franco used to throw it for the Mets.

RIP Roy.

That palm ball must be really nasty to have Chipper Jones so crossed up in that 2nd clip

The screwball is what gives Devin Williams the nickname "The Airbender." It's definitely fun watching him go to work when he's got a good feel for it

Screwball was the reason i blew my arm out in high school.

Ah, Fernando "Eyes to the Heavens" Valenzuela!

@syrupofwahoo3059

Жыл бұрын

Thank you bro Was thinking the same…sooo good, sooo young Fun times

@badcornflakes6374

Жыл бұрын

Man was making us 5'11 dudes look good

The reason some of these breaking pitches aren't used so much anymore is because they absolutely wreck your arm

Dave Giusti , reliever for the Pirates, pre Tekulve, had a KILLER Palm Ball. Don't remember anyone using it as regular part of his repitoire.

@brianscott4523

Жыл бұрын

Bob Stanley

I have never seen anyone get the speed and movement that Mariano Rivera's did. It actually defied the laws of physics IMO.

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To those of us that didn't know these pitches. Would just think they were just your typical pitches. But as a Dodgers fan. I knew about the screwball.

That last pitch was insane

Awesome. Thank you for making this video and highlighting these amazing pitches.

Unless you just "got it" a screwball is an elbow destroyer

@unkledoda420

Жыл бұрын

It's been proven that's a myth. No more harmful than normal curveball.

@DirkPiddlemark

Жыл бұрын

@@unkledoda420 I can throw both pitches along with a decent slider

I hope some 10 year old kid sees this video and masters all of these pitches and in 10 years we get to see him make his MLB debut. I mean he'll probably be out a career with Tommy John after like 2 years, but that'll be a really fun 2 years.

@MiniBaseballStories

8 ай бұрын

That’s me see you in 10 years

Tug McGraw made the screwball famous in the 70's before Valenzuela.

Those were great pitches! I wish more knuckleball pitchers were out there and could make it thru to be seen.

What was the last scene of the screwball? It looks insane coming off his arm Jesus

Vulcan changeup?

That last pitch was wild

Daniel Ray Herrera was a lefty around like 5’7” who threw a screwball about 10 years ago in the MLB. Then he got arrested for something.

Actually what Daisuke did is what we now call a gyro spin slider. Its used by a ton of pitchers. With the slurve I think statcast etc. classify it as either a curve or slider quite often in cases where we would just call it a slurve 20 years ago

I dunno what a yuro ball is but a gyro ( Jai-row) ball is super effective.

@JP-xc3ix

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we aren’t talking Greek food here lol

Bob Stanley = palm ball… basically a sinker change. Then he pitched it to mookie Wilson in ‘86 and I cried for a week

The thing about screw is that it is often considered more of a change up rather than screw ball itself, so I do think some pitchers still throw that ball(a lot of Japanese side throwers throw this ball) . Same with slurve, I feel like people just call it slider (a variant).

Screwball destroys your elbow. That’s why it’s very rare now.

Senior' Smokes screwball was absolutely filthy

Valenzuela was awesome. I loved watching him growing up.

The palm ball is believed to have caused a slew of pitchers to need Tommy John surgery

@corgeekshoozkeb

Жыл бұрын

Cap. It anything it's the same pain as a fastball. It's a changeup with the same arm action as a fastball. It would hurt the pinky, ring, and thumb fingers if it was harmful.

@unkledoda420

Жыл бұрын

I've never heard that about the palmball before (heard it about the screwball, but that bullshit too).

@danbartolini27

Жыл бұрын

There wa the fork ball too

There's probably half a dozen modern changeups that move more than any screwball ever did

There are probably a lot of reason why the slurve isn't thrown as commonly compared to how common it was in the past. Prone to injury or the expected break the pitch is know to do. Like a slider, the ball breaks in a similar way to a curveball, however the downside is how much break the pitch has. Also, it is really difficult to throw unless you have the right mechanics and grip for it

Bro predicted the sweeper

The Yankees’ Steve Hamilton and the “Folly Floater”!😂😂😂

The gyro (pronounced with a hard g like gyroscope) is basically the Japanese version of the screwball. They both have high spin like a top, which causes the movement.

Dave Stewart and with his forkball was insane.

That last pitch was absolute filth

I remember watching Dontrelle Willis for the Florida Marlins. He was the first pitcher I had ever seen throw a slurve. He was also left handed. That's one NASTY pitch!

Dodger reliever Mike Marshall threw a really lethal screwgy back in the mid-70's also.

Slurve is thrown by a ton of pitchers today. They just call it a curveball, and it usually gets picked up as a curveball by the analytics.

My friend and I created a pitch in 1988 called The Dish. No one throws it as it's hard to learn. What makes it different is that when thrown your palm is facing up instead of down.

Bill Lee is still throwin the eephus with the Savannah Bananas

That gyro ball was nasty

Man I love baseball

Knuckleball : "Am I a joke to you?"

@stevenjackson5541

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the rarest everyones heard of it. These ones he’s listing I’ve never seen before in person.

Love Halliday’ palm ball

I believe Randy Johnson's birdkiller is the rarest

The slurve is actually coming back to the mainstream

That last screwball looked more like an mirrored slider

Gaylord Perry is like, "Where is my spitball?"

Darvish throws two on this list, the slurve and the eephus. He had an arsenal of 9 pitches when came to the MLB, but they made him drop many.

Yankees relievers with the Slurve.

Slurves can destroy a shoulder. I think that's why a majority don't throw it.

The Palmball is my K pitch. I used to have a curveball but my palm was practically one. 20 mph less and you can't tell if it's a heater or a 'chuter.

Bro just named almost all my favorite baseball 9 pitches 💀

Slurve is actually a lot more common than you think, it just gets mistaken for a slider or curve

Fun Fact: The screwball is still used to this day in Wii Sports baseball 😂

Essentially, these are hard to learn, hard to master, and in the case of the Slurve and Palm ball, most pitchers would rather a normal change up or a normal curve instead.

This needs an update to add Senga’s “ghost” forkball. Probably the most dominant pitch this past season.

The screwball is hard on pitchers and that's why we don't see that anymore I think

@unkledoda420

Жыл бұрын

That's a myth. It's been proven that it's no more harmful than a normal curveball.

Wooow beautiful pitch 👍👍

Bro, I practically invented throwing the palm ball