5. CZC A01 1:45 4. FN 509 LS Edge 3:46 3. Microtech MSAR 6:26 2. Gideon Shadow 8:52 1. Guncrafter X2 Hellcat Commander 12:11

@Quanzinjer78927

2 жыл бұрын

People like you always bless the comments

@justmehere34

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@chrishanna842

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad to see it was an MSAR also and not a real aug in the preview pic.

@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for saving me from wasting my time, your a hero man!~

@jambajoby32

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏🏽

You should do a video on guns that surprised you on how good they were. Hidden gems, if you will.

@lesflynn4455

2 жыл бұрын

Good suggestion mate.

@HonestOutlawReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'll do that!

@whiskeytangofoxtrot9403

2 жыл бұрын

Canik for sure better than the price would suggest.

@mwright9106

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, great suggestion 👍

@charleswhitford2026

2 жыл бұрын

Beretta apx combat

$4000 for a 9mm pistol. That is indeed 8 Glocks. Or one Glock and 7000 rounds of 9mm.

@Mark-uh4zd

Ай бұрын

For that price, I’d rather buy a few guns and ammo. Or just keep saving for an m107 at that point.

@Schrodingers_kid

Ай бұрын

Get a glock, upgrade it (because that's a lot of high end guns nowadays anyway), still have a lot left, spend it on ammo, don't just dump it, train properly, but more than you would otherwise Bam, comp gun

@schafschuetze79

Ай бұрын

If a glock is about 600,00 you have enough money left for over 14.000 shots.

@bornonthebattlefront4883

28 күн бұрын

4k can definitely buy a lot of cool guns I can get a M1911 in .45, a M2011 in 10mm, a Glock 19 and a Sig P365 All with 2 boxes of ammo, and a red dot if you want one Oh well

@Peatex

22 күн бұрын

or a glock, packs of ammo and an iPhone to bribe your wife so u can buy more guns

Love the realistic and true video not many channels are willing to give the community a true review and as an Aussie that pays 3x more for a firearm it's a huge help

A $4000 pistol should be able to win the competition for me while I stay in bed. Holy crap.

@theodorehunter4765

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, because everyone else is also using a $4000+ pistol in those competitions.

@mikesmith-wk7vy

2 жыл бұрын

yep, i was given looks at my IDPA match for my sr-1911 competition model 1700$ but i love that gun its so smooth and it was worth the money 1 light strike out of hundreds of rounds . a 4000$ ive seen them but they cant be that much better than what i got. i think the reliability and smoothness of the features and ergonomics make a gun as good as you are in a match

@jarredlkling

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikesmith-wk7vy I use to think the same thing, any thing above $2000 and your just paying for the name...Nope I was so wrong. I have a friend that shoots Major open division. He has a SV Infinity 2011 w/ sight tracker barrel,5 ports in .38 super comp. Hardball fit to the frame and the Cheely grip. The gun had Has 1lb 12 oz trigger. It would run around well north of $4k to have built and I'll tell you the first time I shot it my jaw dropped. It is unbelievable how accurate and smooth a properly built Major open gun can run and before I shot one I thought no way it could be worth the price but now I know a properly built one is worth every penny up to and over the $7000 a custom a open major 2011 would cost nowadays to be built if you can get on a waiting list.

@mikesmith-wk7vy

2 жыл бұрын

@@jarredlkling thats a point , i shoot IDPA so we are limited in what features we can have though , so majorly decked out guns like that aren't allowed i would like a ported barrel .

@ronaldhowdeshell8628

2 жыл бұрын

For $4k, it should wake me up with breakfast and a bj.

You're unapologetic, unfiltered and honest complaints prove that there is never any "Kiss-assery" towards any company or brand. Putting a CZ on the list should hammer the statement. Always a fan. God Bless you both, JB

@lesflynn4455

2 жыл бұрын

True. I was surprised and impressed to see a CZ on the shitlist.

@mylesharvey6488

2 жыл бұрын

Love the Honesty!

@dn2222

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, I believe it was built in house at CZ Custom in America. Not necessarily CZ. CZ website does show them in their catalogue though so they must stand by them.

@Cheeki_breeki6

2 жыл бұрын

My CZ75 is my favorite pistol I've ever owned and shot. It's like driving a well tuned car.

@gamerdude7481

2 жыл бұрын

I just picked up a CZ97B yesterday and got 4 compliments on my choice while I was there from the staff and other customers. Haven't shot it yet but I have gotten a feel for it using snap caps and I can't wait to take it to the range

“Not Worth” types of reviews actually mean more than “best 5” to me. Thank you for the review! 😜

@Myfootinplaces

2 жыл бұрын

That's the truth!

@blackraven8841

2 жыл бұрын

@Bob McCaskill how does that apply to his comment?

@jetty92487

2 жыл бұрын

@Bob McCaskill what's that got to do with the price of tea? Everyone talks up their favorite guns, even if they're trash. You definitely get more from a "this is a waste" type video than the typical hype vids.

@roguemodel

Жыл бұрын

good luck with that.

Eleven years ago I bought a 1995 Mercury Grand Marquis and a new RIA 1911A1 GI full size for a combined price of $3200. To this day I drive that car every day and carry that gun every day. Fifty thousand miles and six thousand rounds later, both are still in my good book.

@airsoftluke17

2 жыл бұрын

Ok but there are better options

@jayjeezy4614

2 жыл бұрын

50k miles in 11 years? You must only drive that car from the garage to the mailbox and back

@oceaser6977

2 жыл бұрын

You put rounds through that pistol but haven’t driven anywhere really

@otherbob23

2 жыл бұрын

How many mags you get for that? Reloading at the range sux.

@wheelguns4wheelmen802

2 жыл бұрын

@@oceaser6977 I think he only drives it to the range and back, so that he can shoot his RIA 1911.

I'm glad for these types of lists because as a guy living outside the USA, any gun I purchase is at least 3X the price. So I have to know whats good or not lol.

@dgunearthed7859

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I live in California, and I don't think it's technically part of the USA, because here, we don't have permission from our great state leaders to purchase about 90% of the firearms that are available to free-USA residents. PLUS, if we ARE granted permission to purchase something, there's usually a 200-300 higher price on it than in those free-er states. In fact the LAPD is going with a pistol that is not on California's "safe handgun roster". But they're allowed to use an "unsafe" handgun because they're the popo. lol Makes TOTAL sense!

@MrWhite-erb

2 жыл бұрын

Thats rough, it sounds like California has stricter gun laws that most other countries. Politicians should remember that all those laws won't make a difference to criminals.

@dgunearthed7859

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrWhite-erb they remember...and they know criminals don't care about their idiotic rules. They're all about control for the law abiders

@Duwurf

2 жыл бұрын

@@dgunearthed7859 Just out of curiosity, what gun is it, that You mentioned?

@dgunearthed7859

2 жыл бұрын

@@Duwurf sorry do u mean the pistol the lapd is going to? Its an FN

It looks like there's a pattern here. Never buy an expensive gun unless it's got very high reviews by multiple reviewers. If you buy a $200 gun that is a lemon it's almost more fun trying to tweak it and experiment and hone your skills.

@LuvBorderCollies

2 жыл бұрын

Too many high end guns go for cosmetics, ala cool or tactical, whatever. The LGS I worked at sold a variety of 1911 brands. Kimber always got looks but Remington, Springfield Inc and Colt (if you could find one) made as good and usually better 1911's for the money. Remington 1911 was a sleeper. Ruger 1911 isn't too shabby either. I'd rather put extra money into Wilson Combat 8rd magazines than pretty doodads in the grips.

@NosferatuXGutts

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly agree haha. I remember doing everything conceivable to make my cousins hi-point run better just for shits and giggles get a lot braver with sandpaper when the gun in cheaper than a tv

@steveh7108

2 жыл бұрын

@@NosferatuXGutts agreed. I bought a $200 FMK . Looked pretty good. Felt pretty good in the hand. But it had some issues. I did not hesitate to take a little sandpaper to the seam in the molding to smooth it out and make it more comfortable. A Dremel to the undercut of the trigger guard. Paint the sights ( just a dot of fluorescent paint with a toothpick ) Change the recoil spring. Attempt to polish a couple parts. It shot good and I didn't lose a dime when I sold it.

@yulusleonard985

2 жыл бұрын

Eh? Just dont buy expensive gun if you have no desire of winning a medal or something. Just like our revolver competition. Everyone use Manurhin. Expensive guns are there for winning trophy or medal because you are there to compete against other people who most likely more skilled than you are and you only have one chance.

@steveh7108

2 жыл бұрын

And for all those people that overuse the cliche of "would you trust your life with it". I say no ! There is not a firearm made that I'd trust my life to. This isn't a Hollywood movie. You're not going to draw and drop two or three assailants in a Split Second. You better have a back-up plan for you and your family's life.

Anyone else just watching this just to make sure none of your guns are on the list

Carlos Hathcock achieved his legendary kill count with a factory hunting rifle that turned out to only shoot about 4 MOA. Let that sink in as you consider spending a large sum of money to "upgrade" something in your gun...

@NoName-sy3di

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why im gonna have my mosin be my main hunting gun...

@ab5olut3zero95

2 жыл бұрын

Familiarity counts for A LOT with firearms. Knowing how a weapon recoils, precisely where the trigger breaks, and knowing where a round is going just by the feel of the recoil makes loads of difference in shooting.

@pliskenx51mm83

2 жыл бұрын

But but the internet dictates if it cant shoot sub moa at the two mile mark its obsolete and no one should even be allowed to view pictures of it at the museum let alone own one!

@olliefoxx7165

2 жыл бұрын

Well....he was Carlos Hathcock. That makes a huge difference. Us mere mortals must compensate somehow. I get your point though.

@Usmc0341

2 жыл бұрын

He used a model 70 Winchester, I believe I could be wrong. I make the same argument for my mini 14. Mine shoots between 1.25 and 2.5 MOA and it's consistent with all types of ammo. I own very expensive AR's, an FN SCAR 17, several mid tier AR's and some cheap AR's as well. With the exception of my larue and my LWRC, all my AR's shoot about the same, between 1 and 2.5 MOA. My mini shoots just as good. So I make the argument that you're making, 75%of shooting, is the shooter.. Could be more, but I'm giving precision firearms their due..

I get what you're saying about the FN and the trigger hype. A few years back I got reeled into the Sphinx SDP hype. The absolute worst DA trigger I've ever felt. SA was okay but the DA was like pulling my dog into his vets office.

@towelies4884

2 жыл бұрын

Lol great analogy

@loumencken9644

2 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate the gun was so bad, but at least you got an awesome metaphor out of it- "the trigger was like pulling my dog into the vet's office". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@tiggerpod8279

2 жыл бұрын

The B&T USW version of it isn't any better either.

@Standforwhatsright33

2 жыл бұрын

Omfg. I'm going to use that when I run across a rough DA.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

My "not worth it" gun was the Sig P365 SAS. Switched to the regular P365 and can now actually hit where I'm aiming

@TheSprinkler

2 жыл бұрын

I love my p365,never tried any other version but it's always been incredible to shoot

@the_caffeinated_christian8395

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!! I had the SAS and I hated it sooo much. I tried to love it but ended up selling it.

@TheSprinkler

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_caffeinated_christian8395 you'd like the regular 365 for sure, especially with one of the mags with an extended grip for better handling

@FranzBazar

2 жыл бұрын

ILOVE love my P365. My favorite pistol (out of about 10 pistols I own). But It’s probably just a standard P365, not sure.

@sauerkrautjr

2 жыл бұрын

@@FranzBazar if it has 3-dot/big dot sights, it's not the SAS. I think you'd know if you had the SAS--the sights and controls are practically unusable on that

I felt the pain when he said the Glock had a better trigger.

@MichaelClaytonCo

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahhaha ... THAT is some serious shade

@timlatte8302

2 жыл бұрын

Black n decker make glock triggers. They are reject from 3/8 drills

I appreciate your honesty in this video. When somebody is coming at you armed or unarmed, you need it to work first time, every time. Just that one little jam could cost you your life.

By far, one of your best (and any GunTuber's) truth and honest videos. I'm glad I didn't have any of the aforementioned weapons on my list.

My.. “I eff’ed up gun” was the Bren 805. I had saved up 2K for an AUG and was about to buy one when the Bren 805 came out and all the usual KZread suspects came out and said it was the greatest thing since sliced bread so I bought one. Yeah it was a decent gun and reliable but it didn't do anything any of my ARs didn't do better. It was heavier, I didn't like the grip or the trigger, the handguard was sharp pic rail, it was longer than an AR with the stock fully collapsed and I know it's user error but that reciprocating charging handle bit me one too many times. Luckily I ran across a local guy with AUG that wanted to trade for the Bren.

@jonathan91595

2 жыл бұрын

I love my aug more and more everyday, threw a thermal on it, now it's all around my fav go to rifle. 2 Moa accuracy is plenty for what it does.

@Sogard22

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad your story has a happy ending!

@petrkarv

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't care for the bren and was really disappointed with the AUG. So both are gone. Good for you if you are happy.

@mikemeyer4800

2 жыл бұрын

@Jake Gore . whats wrong with bren 2?

@bigd2630

2 жыл бұрын

Was your Bren a 7.62 x 39? They did have a lot of problems with that and issued a recall. I believe it was send it in to be repaired or they old buy it back. Not 100% sure. I have one of the later model Brens in 223 and love it but I steered way clear of the 7.62 one

Thank you for the great video post. You’re absolutely right about the Gideon Shadow. It’s a true piece of 💩! My friend bought one and told us how great it was, until we met at the range and it showed it’s true colors. It jammed about every 3 rounds, misfired and stovepiped more than a 1911 ever has. A true hunk of 💩. By the end of the day, he wanted to wrap it around a tree and we encouraged it. He traded it off for a beautiful Les Baer 1911 Hemi 572. He definitely won out on that deal. Thanks again for sharing your opinion with us, best of luck 🍀

This was on Guncrafter's Facebook page: I have recently been made aware of a scathing review on our X2 pistol by Chris Randall of Honest Outlaw (HO) Very seldom do I involve myself in forum debates but HO's review is completely erroneous and the statement that our X2 pistol is not worth the money and one of the worst 5 pistols he has tested demands a response from GI. It is obvious from the video that the pistol malfunctions with extended MBX magazines. Our X2 pistols are supplied with Staccato formerly (STI) magazines and the feed ramp is optimized to work with these magazines. In detail, that means that the barrel feed ramp protrudes about .015 into the magwell which allows an earlier pickup of the cartridge and a less steep feed ramp angle. The Staccato magazine has a cutout in the top (front) of the magazine that works extremely well with this setup. The MBX magazines cutout is smaller and not as deep as the Staccato magazine, using MBX magazines require the barrel feed ramp to be "shorter and/or have the bottom right corner radiused for proper clearance between the feed ramp and the magazine. Using the MBX magazine in our X2 will cause the feed ramp to crash into the MBX tube and cause all kinds of feeding issues, it will also dent the feed ramp and leave some nasty gouges in the MBX magazine tube! Further aggravating the situation, using extended magazines that doesn't stop against the bottom of the frame allows for over-inserting the magazine that could make it stick in the pistol, damage the ejector, prevent the slide from going forward and greatly interfere with proper function. When using extended magazines a special magazine release should be installed to prevent over-inserting the magazine. The above are well known facts among gunsmiths and experienced "2011" style pistol users and this is where HO gets into trouble, being oblivious to the proper setup when using other magazines than the supplied Staccato magazines. We can forgive Mr. Randall for his ignorance, he is not a gunsmith (we believe...) but not having the courtesy to contact us before posting such a negative review, and thus allow his mistake to become our problem, is really bad form. We would gladly have explained the situation and set up his X2 to where it would run perfectly with the MBX magazines, they are first class magazines - they just require a tweak to the barrel feed ramp and a different magazine release (for extended magazines). HO has a large following on KZread, with that comes the responsibility to get the facts right. When Mr. Randall posts a negative review on a particular Glock, FN ....or other pistol from a big manufacturer it is not a huge deal, they will get over it, they sell millions of pistols and have millions of satisfied customers that see things differently than Mr. Randall. However, posting such a damning and flawed review on a custom pistol from a small company that lives and dies by it's reputation is a very serious matter. An apology from Mr. Randall would be welcome and we would really like to be given information from Mr. Randall on how to (privately) contact the new owner of the reviewed pistol so we can polish out the magazine induced dents in the feed ramp and otherwise inspect the pistol for "damage" caused during Alex Zimmermann - Pres. Guncrafter Industries. facebook.com/388252584563155/posts/4290465747675133/

@Arkancide

2 жыл бұрын

Even if every point they made was true, $4000 isn't worth the money. It doesn't shoot magic nor does it make your GF not crazy anymore. It could work flawlessly everytime, be the most accurate pistol on the market, and it STILL WOULD BE OVERPRICED. I don't blame them for their response, but since I can NEVER afford their product... fuck em. $4k for a pistol? By the gods. It literally does what EVERY pistol does, just perhaps a bit better. Madness. I paid $480 for my AR-15, and it has performed flawlessly. I paid $400(way overpaid, but that was during the Obama gun buy) for my pistol. And my pistol does EXACTLY what the $4000 pistol does. Puts 9mm holes in things. Sorry for the rant, but it is JUST A PISTOL.

@SDM121888

2 жыл бұрын

Sooo what he’s basically saying is their 4K Gucci gun only works with one specific brand of mags…..yeah hard pass thanks. That’s like saying you’re car won’t take standard readily available gasoline but runs great on unicorn blood. Also don’t talk shit about our product because we are a small company 🙄. Thanks but I’ll stick to my beat to shit Toyota pick up that actually runs.

@ab5olut3zero95

2 жыл бұрын

While they raise valid points, they’re essentially admitting there’s no aftermarket support for a $4,000 pistol. In essence, you could buy 3 top of the line Sig P320s for the price of one of their wunderwaffen and still have money left over for holsters, ammo, and training. You could buy 2 Daniel Defense rifles and still have enough left over for ammo and a training course. Long story short, if a gun costs as much as a used car, you can probably get a far better deal, unless you just have nothing better to burn 4Grand on….

@alexdemoya2119

2 жыл бұрын

for 4k the gun should accept any magazine and work no matter what. fuck this guy

@tokay444

2 жыл бұрын

@@Arkancide go be poor somewhere else. Plenty of guns out there at twice the price that folks buy two at a time without batting an eye.

Saw the AUG in the thumbnail and was about to throw virtual hands. But if we're talking about the MSAR...yeah that's fair.

@The_Rob_D

2 жыл бұрын

The Aug still ain’t worth $2k.

@DrWolfensteinz

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Rob_D Personal preference, I'd say. I've sold all my ARs and only have my AUG left cause for me, it does everything an AR does with better balance and better ballistic performance for the size.

@christopherings7996

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrWolfensteinz I can enjoy and respect both. Though the weight balance on the AUG feels much better to me than the balance on the piston driven AR15s I prefer.

@ToastbackWhale

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Rob_D I paid around 1700 for mine and I'm quite happy. Haven't found a use for an AR since I bought it. Why use long rifle if short rifle do trick?

@peekaboo1575

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrWolfensteinz How's the AUG's fit & finish compared to a similarly priced AR? I might get one in a few years when I stop being POOR. :^)

My surprise “not worth the money” is the Wilson Combat EDC X9L. The gun was around $2900, and of course I bought a few extra mags. It has a very picky trigger, in that your finger has to be in just right spot to make the trigger function. The longer slide also has more mass, to the point that I can feel the slide moving back and forth in a way that is unique in all the pistols I have shot, which is not as much as you, but still pretty extensive list. Overall, it’s not a bad gun, but it’s not worth what I paid for it.

@AllanG1914

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't like the curve at the back of the grip. Never really felt lock in my hand even after 1 year of trying to get used to it.

@theremnant216

2 жыл бұрын

It's crazy that you say this. I was looking at the x9l last night and planned to buy it this weekend. Thank you for saying this. This would've been my most expensive purchase to date and I didn't want to he disappointed.

@lancecahill5486

2 жыл бұрын

Check out Hickock 45's video about the difference between a $500 1911 and a $3,000 one. Very interesting.

@gordonbodzin3153

2 жыл бұрын

@@theremnant216 make sure you dry fire it, and see if they will let you do a 5 shot test fire. I have a CZ TSO, which is a comparable size and capacity but about $1000 less, and I love it.

@steveh7108

2 жыл бұрын

@@theremnant216 look into a Dan Wesson. I would have to categorize them as The Bargain Basement of the high-end 1911's 2011

The magazine issue in the MSAR happens on the XM17 rifles that take AR mags. AR mags latch on the side, and in the rifle the linkage to the release is plastic which warped when heated up. My mag got stuck also, I sent my stock back to MSAR (when they still existed) and they installed a metal linkage. Fixed the problem.

My MSAR has been lights out. I got it used, sub 1k, and put the extractor meant for steel cased ammo in it. It's a wolf slinging machine. It's super accurate and I don't burn my hand. It's just a lot of fun.

No one ever talks about how you're so accurate with handguns from far away. Way to fine tune your craft.

@Merril_39

2 жыл бұрын

He was a finalist for the best shot of guntube

@robbenmitchell7949

2 жыл бұрын

I can hit a 2 inch bullseye with a worn-out ww1 1911 at 5000 feet.

@LuvBorderCollies

2 жыл бұрын

Practice practice practice.

@455todrive

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbenmitchell7949 put it on KZread

@davidr1676

2 жыл бұрын

Those targets aren't that far away, "it's only a model"--Monty Python, The Holy Grail. Very tiny targets about 25 feet and trick photography. ..I'm just talking shit .

You can hear the pain in his voice when he has to diss a CZ.

@clownworld4655

2 жыл бұрын

Yup cause just about all CZ models are awesome

@CZIndonesia

2 жыл бұрын

Its not CZ

@beaubales3981

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but it's a bastardized CZ not OEM or CGW

@ubcroel4022

2 жыл бұрын

CZ is a cope brand anyway

I've had a MSAR since they came out and never had any type of malfunction with it or the magazines or ammo, but i did change the trigger bar which reduced by half. I also bought the left hand eject bolt. I have about 3 to 4 thousand rounds thru it.

@mattblank7728

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, never had any issues and still have it.

@DukeofBarrence

2 жыл бұрын

Weird, they must've had some serious QC issues. You guys got lucky. I had one, and it was total garbage. All the problems he talked about. Constant jams, mag issues (mine took aug mags), the mag release was awful and you had to completely change your grip and squeeze the lever with serious force to get it to even try to release, and the trigger was horrible, even after modding it. I bought it because I loved the weight distribution and compact design, but it was a nightmare to actually shoot.

@Nun.of.ur.business444

2 жыл бұрын

Not to pick on your statement, but just want some clarification. If you replaced something and cut the malfunctions in half, then there was a problem, and cut in 1/2 means that even after changing the part, it still malfunctions?

@adrianestrada9799

2 жыл бұрын

86s fricke, I could copy and paste your comment on the MSAR. That thing eats anything that looks like a 5.56. I have not gotten a left hand bolt (and I should so my buddy can shoot it) but I did get the RatWorx bolt that uses AR parts. The original bolt would bounce hot brass off the brim of my ballcap and skip it off my right cheek. RatWorx bolt sends brass out to 3o'clock. Also put a charging handle from Manticore. That is all my MSAR ever needed other than a good supply of ammo to feed it.

I bought an MSAR shortly after they were first released (before Steyr announced that they were rereleasing the AUG, when pre-ban guns were outrageously expensive, and when the MSAR was about $500 brand new). When I took it to the range to sight it in, it went full-auto right out of the box. Not doubling or tripling. Pull the trigger and get a stream of bullets till you let off it. Fortunately that didn't get me in trouble. I sent it back and they replaced the entire fire control group. Made it a totally different gun. The trigger is nowhere near as bad as you'd expect from a bullpup. It eats any ammo I feed it, and I have no problem with mags. Everyone who shoots it loves it. I certainly wouldn't buy one now, but I still don't feel compelled to sell this one because it is actually one of the good ones.

@MrNathan23554

2 жыл бұрын

i rented an msar at a range and I don't think I got more than 3 consecutive rounds off before it jammed lol

@dylanwight5764

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrNathan23554 I'm surprised, for a rental, you didn't get herpes before it jammed.

This is why I love buying budget guns ,more often than not,they're a gem and worth every penny!

@usnfindley

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to start buying more budget guns. My grand power q100 is amazing. 399 brand new with 4 extra back straps, 3 fifteen round mecgar mags, and 2 extra front sights. Super smooth shooter with the rotating barrel. Even though it's a 9mm, it shoots like a 22. I like it better than my hkvp9sk which was a 700 dollar pistol. And that speaks volumes.

@zachdugan7320

2 жыл бұрын

There's gems, but sometimes you do get what you pay for with budget guns. One thing's for sure though: generally speaking, the amount of bang you get for your buck trends downwards as the pricetag goes upwards

@Okami1313

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like there is a sweetspot in the middle. Not too expensive, and not too cheap, but is worth more than what you pay for.

Like a lot of guys I can only afford to purchase one gun per year, and the high end gun buy years don't come around very often. I don't want to waste my money. Thank you for truthfully telling us what you found with these guns. Don't know if you are an outlaw but I do believe you are honest.

The now defunkt Para Ordnance P-14 Limited was probably one of the best hi cap 1911's ever made, for $1,000 in 2000, a couple hundred bucks in upgrades, steel mag release, mainspring housing, mag funnel, aluminum trigger. Over 10,000 rds downrange with 0 malfunctions and very accurate. I don't know why Para Ordnance went out of business. Kicking myself for finally selling mine.

Anymore who'd spend $4k on a 1911 deserves to take a bath, and also doesn't get to cry poverty over ammo. Good video though

@remil581

2 жыл бұрын

I can't agree more! There is a gun called the Manurhin MR73 revolver that I think MAY be worth the 3 grand pricetag though the Kimber K6 and Chiappa revolvers seem to operate nearly as well. Though the Mr73 is such a proven sidearm, I'd recommend looking at some videos of it. In the dozens of pistols I've owned it's the nicest trigger on a revolver and one of the nicest on any pistol I've ever seen. Insanely accurate, incredibly durable and unendingly reliable. I feel like an ad-rep for it describing it but can't help it, lol. LMK your opinion if you ever check it out.

The Gideon Shadow segment makes me want to see a B&T GHM9 1000 round review. They're barely more expensive then cz scorpions these days and are amazing.

@Chiller01

2 жыл бұрын

I have the ACP .223 and I love the thing. Action is so so smooth. With a name like Grasshopper Mouse it’s got to be excellent.

@Waltuh22232

2 жыл бұрын

My ghm 45 fucks

@Genesis23OPB

2 жыл бұрын

in switzerland, the ghm9 is actually cheaper than a scorpion and you would be a retard to buy the later. especially in my position, as i live just 1h in the car away from the manufacturing plant of the ghm9 same goes for apc9 vs mpx. with all the problems i heared about with imported mpx's you would be stupid to buy one over the apc9 which is not only cheaper than the mpx, there is allso a CHF 800 (about 800 USD?) red dot included in the price of the apc9.

the Steyr AUG clone is really crap. As an Austrian soldier, I had the Steyr AUG and my rifle did not have a single malfunction, whether in the dirt, in the rain or in the snow, the Steyr always works. The AUG also works with any ammunition.

@TheGroundedAviator

2 жыл бұрын

Over the Tasman they started having issues, but that was more from them getting old.

@peterkunz3092

2 жыл бұрын

Except for the charging handle falling apart - Monday gun?

@stitchjones7134

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that. I was issued the carbine and it was a great weapon. Reliable, light, accurate and easy to use.

@TheGroundedAviator

2 жыл бұрын

@@stitchjones7134 Which service?

@yulusleonard985

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGroundedAviator Semi autos are sensitive to ammunition. If someone from Europe, they have access to the best ammunition on the planet. Norma, Lapua, RWS. The rest of the planet, not so much.

The Steyr Aug is one of the coolest looking weapons EVER

Meanwhile Korth is sitting in the corner, sipping the most expensive wine and looking at those guns with a smirk on its face.

I paid $1400 for a Springfield M1A Socom 16. Not worth the money, I don't know if it is so much of a lemon that it deserves to make the list but a $1400 AR platform would have been a much smarter buy on my part. I still like it, but if I had the money over again to do it different, I would.

@M2fiftycal

2 жыл бұрын

I really wanted to love my M1A but the more I shot it the less I liked it.

@idessaoutlaw

2 жыл бұрын

The FN FAL IS THE BEST RIFLE 😎👌

@snoopywl8880

2 жыл бұрын

I think its more of a collectors gun at this point. It's a good gun but there's so many better ones

@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760

2 жыл бұрын

a lot of people buy an M1A because they expect it to shoot like a National Match Loaded version, only to discovery that bone stock M14s are not remotely match accurate. Just like a govt model 1911, they can be made to shoot lights out but it’s a real to-do.

@CountryBoy-zl4fh

2 жыл бұрын

That's a perfect analogy.

"A Glock has a better trigger." That is so damning as Glock triggers are horrible unless tuned in my experience.

@beverlychmelik5504

2 жыл бұрын

I admit I was spoiled when I first learned to shoot by using my moms and dads bullseye pistols.

@90whatever

2 жыл бұрын

A simple 3.5 lb after market connector improves a glock hugely. So simple.

@csmphotography

2 жыл бұрын

@@90whatever I agree. An $19.00 trigger kit (connector and springs) does a world of good. Glock triggers are a lawyer thing.

@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28

2 жыл бұрын

Never had a problem with glock triggers. I can make hits at 100 yards on a 12 inch gong all day long.

@90whatever

2 жыл бұрын

@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Stock isn't bad compared to some of the gritty triggers on the abominations I shot in the military, but a cheap drop in part makes a glock just about functionally perfect.

I stand by my EDC. my Nambu with an aftermarket rotary drum magazine and red dot, and detachable 3" bayonette is the bomb-diggity. I made a drop holster from a cut up plastic 55 gallon oil drum, shaped and melted with a bic lighter, coated in dollar store candle wax for slick-ness. The whole set up weighs just 7 pounds.

I live in dumpsterville and love it. All my ARs I built. Only own 2 pistols at the moment. Springfield GI 1911a1 and a Jericho 941. Both pistols cost me under $600 a price I'm comfortable and happy with. They function as a well as any pistol should. Most expensive piece I own is a M1A. Honestly and probably the most I'll ever throw down on a firearm unless it's a significant antique type. Modern firearms offer so much in terms of reliability, functionality, and simple performance, it's really hard to justify a pistol for more than the "standard" $600 price tag.

The more I watch these videos I'm satisfied with my Browning Hi-Power . It works good, accurate and it fits my 1911 Holsters.

@winkeemanley1820

2 жыл бұрын

My FN Hi Power is over 40 years old and super reliable and the same goes for my Series 70 Government Model 1911

@davidderler5924

2 жыл бұрын

@@winkeemanley1820 I don't feel the need to replace my Pistols . I also like my 1983 P1 Walther. And 1910 browning 32 and 38 air weight share concealed carry duties

@blackhawk7r221

2 жыл бұрын

Hi-Power all the way

@jamesg6792

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely my HI Power is awesome and stupid reliable never one malfunction out of it.

@realQuestion

2 жыл бұрын

heck, there's enough demand for Hi-Power that it's back in new production both in the USA and abroad...so it's not like anyone could call you crazy :)

I have a MSAR STG-556 and absolutely LOVE it. I understand that overall it is known to have issues but I have not had any issues with mine.

Gulped when I first saw a CZ. I own 16 of them, 5 DW’s and several HK/SIG, and so on. Love my TSO’s and Czechmate. Good review!!!

Overall, I would never have even thought about buying any of those guns in the first place. I have never had a stovepipe jam or failure to eject in any of my S&W revolvers.

@tendraftsdeep

2 жыл бұрын

Truth! Revolvers rock.

@jeffb1700

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a S&W Shield EZ. Never worked properly. Slide got stuck in the empty position after 50% of the shots. Mag didn't feed consistently. I called S&W and they acknowledged the issues I was having. Sent it in for repair - it's going to 8 weeks. Moving on . . . .

The Guncrafter Hellcat X2 is a monumental achievement. I didn’t think it possible to screw up a 2011, but Guncrafter found a way.

@MartianBuddy

2 жыл бұрын

Man…maybe I should just stick to Glock and gucci/make it look cool

@ElBowen

2 жыл бұрын

@dlordsadow Are you speaking with any experience on the platform our are you just being a coattail-riding douche? Honest question.

@Lordofthepoors

2 жыл бұрын

It's very easy to screw up the 1911/2011 platform

@DLordSadow

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lordofthepoors Individual people, yes it is. People mess up things that they tinker with all the time. A manufacturer charging $3k+ is generally expected to know what they are doing. They shouldn’t be able to screw up a 2011 unless they are trying or are mind bogglingly incompetent. It’s not like the 1911/2011 platform is new and not well understood.

@Lordofthepoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@DLordSadow ok bro you're clearly an expert

I love when you do Top 5 lists. It blows my mind that people drop that kind of scratch on guns. The most expensive gun in my collection is a S&W Performance 629, which I paid a little over $900 for and almost lost my mind. I guess if I had more money spending it on more expensive firearms would not be as big of a deal. If I dropped 4 figures and the gun was trash, I would def want someone to be accountable for it.

@gsxrsean

2 жыл бұрын

Why does it blow your mind?? Its something that will last the rest of your life and not loose much value... What else can you say that about?

@ronaldhowdeshell8628

2 жыл бұрын

@@gsxrsean it blows my mind because I wish I had that kind of scratch.

@TUKByV

2 жыл бұрын

@@gsxrsean do 4-figure trash guns hold their value?

@samrowe2889

2 жыл бұрын

The average price for a firearm in my collection is 2000 at one time b4 my house was broke into while i was out of town and they took everything i had 145000 in guns rares antiques rifles from the late 1800s everything gone iv been building back my collection for the last 4 years and so far i think im up to 25000 but i did things way way different every thing is cataloged photographed seriel numbers written down and a nice big ol safe and lots of camaras

@salutations5749

2 жыл бұрын

@@samrowe2889 Damn Man ! Did they ever find any of them ? It seems to me that itd be someone who knew someone you know.

The “even a broken watch is right twice a day” analogy doesn’t apply here. Holy guacamole

The UPM is in service with many European police forces. Regular cops usualy only were given semi auto 9mm carbines like a semi auto UMP while specialised units have 5.56 rifles and recently SWAT teams starting to adopt surpressed 300 blk rifles.

4k for a firearm? If I ever in my life are in a position where I could spend that kind of $$ I would absolutely buy either a Korth or a Manhuran.

@Sandylowlead-x7r

2 жыл бұрын

Korth are the Bentley of Revolvers. I have several Freedom arms Revolvers, very well made, worth every penny. Korth on whole different level.

@charles9571

2 жыл бұрын

@Chris G You want the feds to kill your dog? Because that's how you get the feds to kill your dog.

@mistaajones

2 жыл бұрын

MR 73 🤤

I've heard of exactly none of these. Always worried when a list like this comes out, something I own will be on it

@bquick80

2 жыл бұрын

You must not know a lot about guns?

@jumboMIDGET

2 жыл бұрын

@@bquick80 guess not. Oh well.

@bquick80

2 жыл бұрын

@@jumboMIDGET I didn’t mean it like that, I’m just saying they’re pretty popular guns! Lol

@TakeDeadAim

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat. I'm "old school" and stick to my 1911's, P228's, S&W revolvers and such. Never heard of these tupperware things. Not my generation....Oh, and I don't read gun rags either. Cancelled my 40 year rolling subscription to American Rifleman three months ago because it's now just a cover to cover advertisement for guns I have no use for and things I don't need.

@jase1125

2 жыл бұрын

You need not worry if a gun you own shows up on a list. The only thing that matters is if you are happy with it. I love my Sig M18 which Chris is not a fan of. I really like his reviews, but my experience with the M18 differs from his.

Hello from the UK, with so many review channels so often without the real, hard background experience, it is extremely impressive to see someone who really knows what they are talking about and can in short words provide a meaningful context. Just such a shame that reviewers in so many other disciplines dont have the same knowledge and expertise, long may you reign!

@mtthwpnn

Ай бұрын

UK version: 5 butter knoyves ain't worth the quid, innit?

I had a friend who had an MSAR. It was completely fubar in his safe but he kept it for some reason. Apparently he lent it to a friend of his, and when they were shooting it, the claw that holds the gas piston in sheared off and the piston went flying downrange. The "friend" didn't bother trying to find the parts, and just gave the broken rifle back to its original owner. We tried help him get it fixed, but it came back that spare parts didn't exist, so he's resigned to keeping it as a wall hanger now. Yeah, I'm not surprised to see that that thing is a piece of junk

I got rid of every pistol I had except my sig and glock. Love both platforms and decided why have all this different stuff when I can shoot both like an allstar and had the most gear for them. Holsters, lights, etc. Best decision I made

@gadgetstalker2

2 жыл бұрын

I hear what you're saying but I'm one of those guys that likes to try out 80%+ of the menu of a good restaurant while others I know will always order the same dish they love. So I naturally want to try different guns.

@zombieslayer7759

2 жыл бұрын

Sig's and Glock's are great guns but there are so many other options out there that are just as good if not better in some instances. Glock's are not the best option unless you want to customize the gun and make your own build. If I wanted a "Glock" pistol that has everything I want right out of the box and is ready to go, I'd go with the Shadow Systems MR 920, DR 920, or the MR 920 War Poet (which comes with a Holosun 507C-X2 red dot sight installed). Sig's are great too, but there are other manufacturers such as Walther, H&K, Arex, Canik, Steyr, S&W, Colt, Ruger, Springfield, etc. that make guns that are all (for the most part anyway) comparable in terms of features, reliability, quality controls, and so on.

@ericmckinley7985

2 жыл бұрын

@@zombieslayer7759 and when it comes down to it, people who say all this buy the same glock from another manufacturer. Walther, s&w, sig all just made browning action, striker fire, polymer framed glockish things that besides no parts interchangeability is 99% a glock.

@DG-vb9sv

2 жыл бұрын

In response to everyone. I am not saying my guns dont have upgrades. I just want what the police and military have. Whenever they change in 30 years I'll have extra mags, equipment for them. I picked my time period for now with guns. Imagine when we are all old how bad ass guns are going to be?

@SectionChief

2 жыл бұрын

@D G you made the correct decision to consolidate and focus on the few brands/models that have the most benefit to you.

Do any of these companies ever reach out to you if they see these videos and try to rectify the problem by offering to fix or replace the gun? Just curious if you get any feedback from companies about bad reviews.

Interesting about the msar, I seem to recall that the AUG had magazine problems in the 1980's as well. It got corrected after a few years, but by then the damage had been done...

@adammathers4879

2 жыл бұрын

What damage? The AUG today, is one of the most respected rifles being made. And its popularity is currently shooting through the roof. Any issues that they might’ve had in their very early days are long gone.

@curtislynch8189

2 жыл бұрын

AUG mags are better than STANAG mags.

Hidden gems are any Rock Island Armory gun. I have the M200 38 special revolver. Paid $219 brand new, and trigger pull, both single and double action is great, reliable, accurate for fixed sights. Great gun for the money.

@gmac8852

2 жыл бұрын

Had mixed feelings until I started shooting mine. Must have gotten a good one.

Surprised to hear about the issues with the MSAR. I had experience with the Gen 3's and had absolutely no problem with them. The only thing that sucks about them is sometimes (but not always) the top two rounds will fly out of the gun with factory mags. Other than that no malfunctions whatsoever. There was a video of a guy torture testing a Gen 3 with a 2k round firing session. I wished Microtech would start making them again since it was a little more affordable that an actual Steyr Aug.

@theinebriatedgoatwhisperer4943

2 жыл бұрын

I had one 10 years ago. Great gun. Used the steyr 42rd mags which worked flawlessly compared to the MSAR mags. Never noticed any gas burning my hand. Trigger sucked but there was an aftermarket stainless steel shim that went in the trigger and made it alot better for like 20$. Shot all kinds of ammo only had issues with steel case when used in the MSAR mags. Had to sell it when my car died but I really wish I woulda kept it

@theshocker4626

2 жыл бұрын

First one i ever had for transfer had no rifling in the barrel.

@alexralston22

2 жыл бұрын

I've had an msar for 10 plus years. 0 complaints. Other than it ejects out the wrong side. Because I I'm a right handed guy but shoots rifles left handed lol

@consciouscool

2 жыл бұрын

You call it a problem, I call it a bonus.

@jetty92487

2 жыл бұрын

honestly, the price isn't that much better. Just get the AUG. Especially now. The MSAR is more of a novelty now since they're out of production, so I think any price advantage has disappeared.

Always good to see vids like this. Cheers

I'm a fairly new gun owner and I've been watching your videos for the last year. I don't know why I have never subscribed until now. Great stuff.

The Steyr Aug handily beat the M16A2 in the Australian military trials. The Aug is lighter, smaller, way more durable, and it shoots sub-MOA right out of the box. The trigger can be fixed with aftermarket mods. It really is worth the money.

Speaking of dumpster fires, I'm surprised your Springfield Saint Victor didn't make the top 5.

@thewatcher819

2 жыл бұрын

🧢

My condolences to your bad purchases and thanks for giving us the heads up.

@maximus-hl9jw

2 жыл бұрын

He buys these guns with donations from viewers.. patreon.. so its other ppls money..

i have been allowed to use an AUG a few times, a friends father and uncle have licences to have full auto arms due to their line of work, so i have gotten to fire a few guns most people havent..also some that are just weird or rare... vss, svu, real ones, turned out they traded some guns with a former russian military officer years ago, it was fun times back in the day... the aug... in some ways it was fun... the swappable barrel setup was interesting, we didnt fire it as much a splanned when the optic failed(shit inside broke lose..) and.. well we had other guns we wanted to fire more.. (he was not happy, that optic was brand new, and expensive as hell...) and the zip22 should be on the list of "worst 'guns' ever made"... they really are that bad... every person i know whos had one, had it as a 'meme gun' and nothing more... i managed 5 rounds before it jammed on the best try..yes it really is, that bad.. LOL.. jamms like hell.. the worst gun i personally had the displeasure of firing was an amazingly expensive semi-auto hunting rifle... everybody spent the day trying to figure out why it felt so bad to use... bad balance, bad recoil alignment, among other things..also..it wasnt as reliable as guns a fraction of the price using the same ammo... real head scratcher... i mean sure the stock was hard wood... but the poly ver didnt save much money it was still a very expensive gun...

[13:14] Appreciate the mention of the CZ P-01. I am fortunate to own the 75B Compact L, which is a essentially a special CZ limited run P-01 with a safety etc., instead of a decocker. Fifty of them went thru Angus Hobdell's CZ Custom, where they did a bunch custom work (eg, trigger, hammer, sights, etc.) and polished all the innards. The result is an awesome firearm (cost about three Glocks) that is my all time favorite handgun.

Great video man. You're doing great work for the 2A 👏

@traeucity6087

2 жыл бұрын

How so?

@cobain2261

2 жыл бұрын

@@traeucity6087 he contributes to the culture. He helps people make informed buying decisions. Every freedom loving American needs guns that work well for them.

@traeucity6087

2 жыл бұрын

@@cobain2261 , that's a stretch on it having anything to do with our Constitutional Rights, which is what the Second Amendment is about; but I'll accept it. Stay dangerous.

@cobain2261

2 жыл бұрын

@@traeucity6087 we are literally talking about guns and you say "thats a stretch to be about our constitutional rights." LOL. I hope you realize how ridiculous that is. He's not out there protesting, but, like I said, he's contributing to the gun culture in a big way.

Ive been into guns since 2008 and I've only heard of Guncrafter a handful of times. Whenever someone mentions 2011s the first brands that come to my mind are Tri-Arc, STI, Atlas, Nighthawk, and Staccato.

Absolutely love Walthers. They spend less on advertising and more on making quality handguns

@Nirrith

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love my ppq

@riick-grimez765

2 жыл бұрын

Lies. Did you see all the hype around the PDP?

@StarfieldBattlefront

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nirrith Yes.

@StarfieldBattlefront

2 жыл бұрын

@@riick-grimez765 Did you see all their other firearms?

@riick-grimez765

2 жыл бұрын

@@StarfieldBattlefront yeah im aware but I think they really pushed the pdp

Watching this guy trying to remove the Steyr mag was like watching that recruit we all laughed at handling the weapon for the first time

Right now, someone at FN is having conniptions about the things said about that trigger. I even feel bad.

@acouthyt2189

2 жыл бұрын

The worst part is... I love my 509CT trigger... I feel attacked. xD

@tacticalsayote4605

2 жыл бұрын

Got both the Ls And CT. Already knew the issue before watching the vid. They are now my range guns and hoping to break the trigger so i could have the reason to get the apex.

@damon323

2 жыл бұрын

Lol!! My regular 509's trigger is the worst/heaviest trigger I’ve ever handled. The flat Apex trigger saved it, but it was the biggest pain to install with that infamous pin you have to beat out.

@acouthyt2189

2 жыл бұрын

@@tacticalsayote4605 Thats my point... I don't need an Apex trigger, I like my normal trigger...

@truesf345

2 жыл бұрын

It’s true though

Thanks for the video! I'm in the market for a pistol and am a novice. Why the hell would they market a $4K pistol and not verify it's functionality and marketability?

Can't say enough how much I appreciate your channel. When I'm considering a gun, it's the first I look to see if you have a video and your opinion holds weight in my brain to sway a decision. Foreshadowing: I have a Taurus PT1911. 🤣 It's the first 1911 I bought because of KZread reviews, which you've mentioned can be skewed, and *then the price (the wife had ok'd a higher budget). Honestly, I only saw your review afterwards and I was like, ok fair because of all the factors you mentioned about quality control and so forth. I'm not advocating anyone throw a quarter and see what lands on the purchase of this gun. You also didn't quantify what you meant by accuracy. I guess I wound up at the lucky end of the spectrum as my PT1911, aside from feeding issues as a result of the magazines which resolved by swapping for Wilson Combat, and adjustments to the extractor which I also plan to relace with a Wilson Combat, this is one of the most smooth running and accurate guns I own. That's alongside an H&K USP Expert. I woudn't bet my life on it or reach for it first in a home invasion, but I have warm feeling towards it. I keep it more lubed than the other firearms I own and it does well, you can tell a difference in the smoothness of the action. Again, I'm not advising anyone take a hit or miss chance on a $500 investment, but I was surprised to hear it as an honorable mention on the worst list. 😂

Guncrafter X2 Hellcat Commander Owners: "Well actually it is the most reliable handgun money can buy, it just needs completely custom loaded rounds that are made by hand by an ancient warrior monk in the Swiss Alps to not malfunction constantly."

Oh Man … they were all such cool and aesthetically striking guns Hence, the ole sayin “Looks ain’t everything”

@jamjinn786

2 жыл бұрын

That could be the Glock company slogan :-)

@OpSic66

2 жыл бұрын

As a gearhead, there is a phrase that is as almost as old as the automobile itself. "Chrome won't get ya home."

@LuvBorderCollies

2 жыл бұрын

That applies to KIMBER everything. At least they could grind the mold lines off their parts.

@phillipseifert694

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuvBorderCollies To hold in your hands, Kimbers are great guns … but I’ve had reliability issues with more than one. YAH ! …. my best buddy is a border collie that’s been with me for 12 years now. He and I have been together in every state but Hawaii

@Pupil0fGod

2 жыл бұрын

that's what I tell my girlfriend!

These prices! wow, I thought I got taken when I bought a Colt Defender and had to buy different mag for it to function

Honestly haven’t even finished the video but just the shoutout to the homeless shelter got me to sub good on ya.

If you paid two large for it and it weighs almost as much as a Desert Eagle and doesn't work reliably... yeah, that's a lemon.

I’ve had high end 1911s but my Rock island and High standard have been consistently more reliable

@Rick-fe8xn

2 жыл бұрын

I've owned a few RIA 1911's all great

@zacharybartlett1472

2 жыл бұрын

Mine had failure to feed and light primer strikes out the box, got rid of it and got a tanfoglio hunter

@FirearmEnthusiast

2 жыл бұрын

CAP

@donovanchilton5817

2 жыл бұрын

Stop lying. 😂

@Rick-fe8xn

2 жыл бұрын

@@donovanchilton5817 Grow up! Hell people have to lie for

New Colt python not reliable, cz bren 2ms 762x39 8"not reliable, sig mpx not accurate. Glock 44 not reliable. Sig 320 lawsuit. That's my top 5 I regret buying

@yong7801

2 жыл бұрын

Is it just the 8'' bren 2 ms in 7.62x39 that's not reliable or are the 11'' and 14'' included?

@wewon5325

2 жыл бұрын

@@yong7801 8" and 11" are terrible but the 14" gas port works great.

@charleslowrey9309

2 жыл бұрын

@@wewon5325 On my second 14" Had the dreaded stove pipe issue 200 rounds into the first one. 400 rounds into the second one without any issues.

@sgthop

2 жыл бұрын

MPX not accurate? Wat? I can hit 200yd with mine all day with a red dot.

I wanted to love my Guncrafter as well but I also lost a ton getting rid of it. There was nothing to like about it and the weight of the gun is enough to make the mag eject and it made me incredibly upset when the mag fell out every time I picked up my $3400 pistol.

@patrickthorssen1

2 жыл бұрын

Did GI not honor their lifetime warranty for the mags falling out?

The issue with more expensive guns is that they tend to have tighter tolerances many times. Which makes them picky with ammo and mags. Those that spend a lot on the gun, but cheap out of the mags and ammo tend to get tons of problems. The other issue is that many are "custom" which means someone spent time in a shop messing it up personally for you!

@lelandmason5760

8 ай бұрын

See the problem with that statement though, is that both gun and ammo (so long as it is governed by SAAMI or CIP which +90% of ammo on store shelves is) are held to the same chamber and mechanical tolerances. There is absolutely no exception for a gun of this money and “precision” to not run with your basic, VERY basic ammo (buy any federal, Remington, Winchester, enter major name brand here) because this gun is only held to those universally accepted tolerances even tighter. In manufacturing, that means that you can expect less variance off of those universal specs resulting in a more consistent product and less variance above or below the SAAMI spec. So long story short, this gun is just fucked. I’m not arguing against you, I’m arguing against manufacturers like Guncrafter.

Thank you for making this video. I know I certainly would get a sinking feeling. If I paid 2K plus for a firearm and it had issues out of the box.

CZ's make me smile. I don't have this particular one but the ones I do have are awesome

@charles9571

2 жыл бұрын

I have a CC 75 SP01 and it's my all time favorite pistol.

@shehateme9955

2 жыл бұрын

yes indeed. Gonna get the p-01 soon as well

@kaasmeester5903

2 жыл бұрын

I owned a regular CZ75, it was my first gun. Accurate, easy to maintain and super reliable with any kind of ammo, only thing I ever had done to it was a mild trigger job. Kind of sad that I sold it (I had to, we can only have 5 guns on our license here), but I got a good price for it; people still recognize CZ as a good brand.

@ifreedoms6823

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaasmeester5903 cool to hear! Love my CZs as well. What country do you happen to be from?!

@kaasmeester5903

2 жыл бұрын

@@ifreedoms6823 the Netherlands :)

WOW. Im shocked at the MSAR review. I owned the 2nd gen myself. Used steel mags and never 1 issue. Factory mags used once bc they were new and despite the slow rate of mag swap, i loved it and everyone at range would come over. Polymer & aluminum dual guide rods love holding on to carbon discharge so, it was a must clean after range day and extra lube. Ran like a dream boat with all the weight in rear. I knew i could run around with longer w/o feeling weight up front. I believe you drew the absolute lemon bc im not that lucky. Wish id kept it.

Informative, upvoted and added to my play list " Guns, old, new, weird..." none of which are by me, Definitely going to have to dig through the videos on this channel.

Kimber Solo, the gun that turned me off of Kimber as a brand. I thought I'd love it but when I shot it every time I fired I had to readjust my grip. Fine--not every gun fits every person's hand and it isn't the fault of the gun. I sold it to my father after shooting no more than 200 rounds. Over several years he fired maybe another 100 rounds and started having FTEs. He sent it in to Kimber and they said the gun showed evidence of peening, a problem Kimber knew the guns were having because their 2nd version addressed it. They told him it was unsafe to shoot and - because the warranty was only 1 year and the gun was about 3 years old at that point - that for $450 they would replace the slide and barrel. Kimber wouldn't stand behind a product that had fired no more than 300 rounds and expected my father to pay about as much as many of the pocket pistols cost to buy new.....to repair a gun that Kimber said was unsafe after 300 rounds. I get that companies sometimes make garbage guns but I don't understand deliberately choosing to screw customers when the company itself knows the guns in question are garbage. I had been looking at a K6 as my next purchase but after what happened with that Kimber Solo I'll never buy another one of their products again.

@SDM121888

2 жыл бұрын

I’m a former infantrymen, I now work in a gun and pawn. I have had several friends and regular customers who had kimbers, and I’m yet to encounter a kimber that didn’t turn into a pumpkin after a few hundred rounds. They all ended up getting rid of them. To the point my boss puts them in the same category as hi points, as in we won’t buy them or take them in on pawn.

@wymanlovestkd

2 жыл бұрын

@@SDM121888 yessir I bought a micro 9 for my mom all it has is FTF, FTE, misfires the whole 9 yards. I was able to work out most of its issues with spring kits and fine tuning but still stumbles every other mag. The family now uses it as a gun to train for malfunctions but it’s sad you’d figure kimber would have better quality.

@glockfanboy4927

2 жыл бұрын

Kimber is overrated n overhyped junk

@MichaelClaytonCo

2 жыл бұрын

I hear a lot of bad experiences on Kimbers

@ronquixote1739

2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelClaytonCo It is one thing to have a bad product and quite another to have bad service. I've had to send in Glocks, Sigs, Springfields....but they took care of the problem. Kimber? No.

thank you for having the mrs. in there, most of us enthusiast are more like her (albeit she is still better then most of us) having her shoot allows more of a connection to what we mid range guys are like you're a freaking gun katta jedi!

i noticed with the FN 509 triggers, that BOTH of my 509s needed about 1500+ rounds to break that 7.5 to 80 lbs trigger in and make it better and more comfortable. I recommend replacing that trigger with a APEX tactical 5.5 lbs trigger, made BOTH of mine more pleasing to shoot

My vote for the biggest POS pistol I have ever owner was the AMT Back Up .45 ACP. I'm a retired State Police Sergeant /Range-Master. I bought the AMT Back Up in .45 ACP because that was the caliber my department carried as duty weapons. The AMT displayed every issue any pistol could have.Failure to eject, failure to feed, stove pipe, light primer strikes and more.

I feel your pain in shelling out a big chunk of money only to have the product fall short of it's hyped up quality.... This is a great video with unbiased info. Well done !!!! Haha yeah 😆 🤣

I love my CZ A01ld. I've fired a buttload n of ammo and never had a jam or any problem. My friends who can't hit crap with tbier $500 guns, can't miss with my CZ. And if you run out of ammo, you can pistol whip the crap out of the bad guy.

@Clan0fGun

2 жыл бұрын

n=1 and meaning you have one shooter with one gun ( was this pistol set up to the original specs that Angus outlined for it or is it "pimped out"). That said I have never had a stove pipe. My guess is the weight of the pistol was not controlled. i.e. user error. Limp grip is the most common cause of stove pipes as I understand it. But these vids are entertainment not really educational. I'd say have a couple pistols with setup stock with seasoned shooters.

@MrMarnold6

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clan0fGun limp wrist is the worst excuse I hear for malfunctions. I want a gun that goes off when I need it, not one that goes off of I hold it perfectly. And there are plenty that go off reliably regardless of a perfect grip. So why would I settle for less? But in this case there's zero chance it was limp wristing. A) it's a 50+ oz gun B) honest outlaw knows how to hold a fun.

@Clan0fGun

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMarnold6 n=1, I've seen no others on the net with so many issues. Dos anyone know Is it stock they way Angus designed it? There has to be a reason its not functioning as designed. Agreed it should go bang when trigger is pulled. Honestly, I really don't care if everyone likes my gun or not. Its not a fashion show! I am not defending the pistol. My A01-LD functions perfectly but then my pistol is still in break in IMO. Maybe its I just know how to hold my tongue in the correct position for it to function? Again, I am in just an n of 1 with a good A01-LD, maybe I got lucky with the one I bought.

@MrMarnold6

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clan0fGun oh I agree it's possible honest outlaw just got a bad copy and that's unfortunate. N = 1 to wrote off a firearm isn't fair. I have read some others say they had jams too though.

@YFZriderdude15

2 жыл бұрын

I'm all for small American gun companies creating works of art and driving good old fashioned American business, as CZ Custom is doing, but I frankly cannot justify spending two times the price of a top-of-the-line production CZ for a totally custom, built from the ground up, CNC-machined handgun that functions _exactly_ the same (or, as in the case of the video, worse than) an equally beautiful - but, not CNC-machined from a block - CZ Shadow 2 or Tactical Sports. There's just no way I'd be willing to spend that much money for so little gain.

From a pure "rounds on target performance" standpoint, no pistol that costs more than about $800, no "fighting" rifle that costs more than about $1200, and no precision rifle that costs more than about $2000 is really "worth it". But there are other reason for wanting to own them.

I bought, and almost immediately sold a Dan Wesson 10mm specialist, idk if i just had a shit gun, or what, it went to three different gun smiths, and they all told me the same thing "its gotta be yoyr ammo" i shot everything from "cheap" 10mm to expensive 10mm and it never ran through a full mag, i changed magazines, cleaned it, polished stuff that had any type friction. Didnt matter, it just failed to run. Biggest waste of money in a handgun ive ever owned.

As always, I appreciate the honesty and info.

I owned a msar, only takes msar mags, for many years. I must have gotten lucky cause I never had a malfunction that wasn’t due to ammo. The trigger could be better but it is a bullpup…

@LuvBorderCollies

2 жыл бұрын

A company made a trigger pack that used AR15 trigger parts. I got one and it helped some but the pins kept walking out. Never fixed it, just put the original trigger pack back in and got used to it. I learned to shoot a Glock 17 (Gen2) with the New York trigger and shoot it very well. If you can shoot that Glock very accurately you can shoot anything.

@86azarate

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuvBorderCollies was it the ratworx trigger? Been trying to get one but seems to be discontinued. I guess I should of bought parts for it long ago. I just got used to shooting it too, I would run and gun and do a lot of CQB drills that we used to do when I was in the Army. It was a huge learning experience training with a new platform, but I finally got proficient with it. Training is everything…

It’s strange watching you and your old lady. I say this because I’m a tall beard wearing Irish guy , my wife’s a short thick finger nail coloring gun loving best friend and we act exactly like you two do. Just in two different states. This list is uncanny as I’ve had similar experiences with those exact firearms. I’m a CZ nut but they don’t need a custom shop as all CZ’s are perfect by themselves. I personally will not buy any handgun over $1000 bucks. Never have. I’ve shot six thousand dollar rigs and outshot pros with those high end rigs and beatem with an $800 PSA/BCA budget frankenbuild. Money rarely makes the shooter. Had to remark because you two act like my wife and I do. That’s the real charm of these vids and getting the spouse that loves the same things as the husband is true gold. I feel you there.

I bought an Msar at my local gun shop for 1300$ (used obviously) and I couldn’t shoot 2 shots in a row without it jamming

Python 2020 is worth an honorable mention at least

@Jeff-mv4yy

2 жыл бұрын

Epic F up on the 2020 Python. The whole gig was "better trigger than the original Python"... until they had to make it hevier so the gun would function reliably. This is classic American business model... Idea, Launch, Fix it, Disappoint.

Funny you had so much trouble with the MSAR, i have had a wonderful experience with the three I've had my hands on, the problems one had originally were all solved with an ejector spring and ive been running wolf ever since

Thanks for doing these videos brother. You're saving us a lot of money and frustration. Appreciate it.

Your number 1 pick is the main reason I stay away from expensive boutique guns.