Never felt attracted to wingspan, now even less likely to pick up it. Thanks for an entertaining video.

@BoardGameBollocks

3 жыл бұрын

All hype mate...have you played the butterfly game from the same designer?

@mitachu

Жыл бұрын

The designer of Wingspan appears to be an overly woke crazy lady so it's a running joke in our group that we DON'T PLAY WINGSPAN

@ImperialGit

7 ай бұрын

​@@mitachuyou have to be to consider making a game about bloody bird-watching XD

Funny thing with Cry Havoc, there is actually a brilliant game/engine from 1981 with the same name, super immersive medieval combat wargame. A bit weird they went for the same name.

fan made Force Commander 2 app for Imperial Assault saved the game for me. so much fun solo, you can play all the campaigns with the app solo to 4 players no need to play imperials (while fun but like you said harder to get to the table if you need someone to play the imperials)

How did I miss this video! This is the most relaxed I've ever seen you and I love this more laid back presention style.

@BoardGameBollocks

4 ай бұрын

Life happened

Oh man, didn't even sell it. That's rough.

Agree with wingspan. it was absolute munk! however i enjoy the 7th continent and its doesnt take long to set up or tear down.

I Love this Channel soo much. I request you to do more Fighting Fantasy Gamebook videos.

@BoardGameBollocks

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers Fang 👍

My family and I recently bought Wingspan...and we love it. One game that I’m looking to get rid of is Castell!

Can’t argue with any of those. If I could do, I wouldn’t, it’s all subjective. Good presentation, subscribed.

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers brother 👍🏻

Imperial Assault/Descent, totally with you on those, I have avoided them, they look pretty but I know i'd never get them to the table for the reasons you gave plus the money pit and "need" to purchase the character packs is a piss take. Wingspan I see your point, never thought about how condensed it could be unfluffed, but we do enjoy it and easily bash a game out in 30 mins and its sits as my highest played game at 35 plays. Working my way through your channel, great content mate thanks.

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

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Thank you, some of these I was iffy on due to others having bad results with.

Love hearing your thoughts on the games. I would say that Imperial Assault/Descent are great fun but finding a group is a nightmare so can understand your point entirely. Same would be true of other campaign games like Glooomhaven, Charterstone, Pandemic Legacy etc. though! I quite enjoyed Cry Havoc for the asymmetry, deck tweaking and unique combat system but I can see that game balance and some of the mechanics may not to be everyone's tastes. It also doesn't help that there are many incredible area control/dudes on a map games, so it has difficultly standing out from the crowd. Haven't played Wingspan so will reserve judgement on that. Think I'd probably enjoy it but that it wouldn't set my world on fire. I would like to try 7th Continent, but a bit wary of it at the same time. Also don't like the fact that all the print runs are Kickstarter only. Dominant Species doesn't really interest me due to the theme. I have played Evolution which was decent enough but it's not a theme that really grabs me.

@BoardGameBollocks

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts...we had Gloomhaven since its first printing but have failed to get it to the table for obvious reasons. I can’t bring myself to shift it though...saving it for a solo marathon when/if I retire 😂

@gchhina4899

2 жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks retire from what? Curious, what is your day job? I figured that you spent the entire day playing games.

I got rid of cry havoc for the first cast same reason, I’m glad that I wasn’t alone in this perception on the game.

I like Dominant Species. I like wargames. Dominance calculation is easy and you only really need to confirm it during the domination resolution. If that was your only complaint though, Dominant Species Marine drastically streamlined the dominance calculation.

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

I found it a pain I thought the arse…one game I was happy to see burn

What I disliked about Wingspan, from the very first time I played it, was it is a card asset management game that does not need there to be other players as their actions could just as easily be taken on by an AI and it wouldn't change the game. It's more like a game of golf - 'a good walk spoiled' - designed by computer programmers for computer programmers masquerading as a board game about birds when the birds are an irrelevant theme.

Nice video as always. I do agree totally on Wingspan. Like John Cleese says "What´s the point". Thou i do like birds a lot, mostly the ones in nice dresses😉 I would like to try Cry Havoc. Only to get my own opinion about the gameplay. The other games mentioned here I have not played. "Scanners" this film I did see many years ago. I know the feeling. Been married. Keep up the good work.

Recently got Wingspan and really enjoying it. I’ve been into the hobby for less than a year so wasn’t bogged down with expectations from the hype. Good video and made me think what I could stand to get rid of - Ethnos (a real letdown) and K2 (one of the first games I bought and overplayed it at the time, decent game though)

@BoardGameBollocks

3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoy Ethnos and K2 isn’t half bad either. Didn’t like wingspan as it’s essentially a small card game made out to be a full board game with a price tag to match. Plus the theme isn’t something we find even remotely interesting. I can understand why people like it though. Try Ethnos with 6...crazy fun.

@kidmarine3994

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can see maybe Ethnos would be better with more players. Only been able to play it with two players and it really doesn’t work, despite having tweaked rules for two.

@BoardGameBollocks

3 жыл бұрын

Ethnos sucks with 2...don’t ditch it till you play it with more. Needs an expansion too. Surprised it hasn’t got one.

@jianpanglam570

8 ай бұрын

I just purchased wingspan, my wife likes it. she likes the eggs and mechanics. but i do see through it all and really it's another catan for me. the luck component of the game is too strong. I've played multiple games online before purchasing, it is evident when high ranking players have immensely shit games, I'm talking 60-70 points. It's cause if you have bad luck with your bird cards drawn, that's it, there is no comeback mechanic when the rounds get shorter and you didnt get to build a good engine. In other words I guess, someone with low ranking or worse skilled player could have lucked out and had the best cards for a fantastic engine one one action and they fly away with the game from 2nd round onwards. to me, it's a party game where if all players have similar knowledge and skills, luck can feel like the only determining factor

The birds in wingspan is the least of its problems

Hi man, Love the channel and have been following you since the inception. Your honesty is so refreshing compared to 99.99% of other board game channels!

@BoardGameBollocks

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mimic. We try our best to do something a bit different here. Glad you enjoy it 👍🏻

Great channel

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Bignose 👍

I heard Wingspan was overrated. Wasn't really keen on it in the first place. I love star wars, but I don't like when those games turn into a dice roll fest.... good to know. The other ones I don't think I've heard of. Another Great video.

Yep. I was very disappointed in Imperial Assault as well.

Love your channel, but I seriously hope you don’t regret getting rid of Wingspan! Unbelievable game.

@BoardGameBollocks

5 жыл бұрын

No regrets. Someone else now has the pleasure of playing it, plus they got it cheap when it was out of stock so very happy it’s gone to a loving home 👍

@cameronduffy9215

5 жыл бұрын

Did you try it with 2 or 3 players? With 4 or more players I agree it’s not worth keeping but Wingspan SHINES at a low player count.

@BoardGameBollocks

5 жыл бұрын

We didn’t. We may get it again...I just picked up cry havoc and the expansion to have another pop as making this video got me thinking about it again. Who knows...

@dominikamusial6945

5 жыл бұрын

@@cameronduffy9215 My group also found wingspan very boring, we have played s different player counts. My friend is going to eBay his copy. Seriously we were very disappointed.

@guillaumeperusse

5 жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks How is that video coming along? 🤣🤣

Interesting. I absolutely love Wingspan 🎉 Just can't get enough of it.

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts are with you at this difficult time…

@neverbored

Жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks thanks, I appreciate 😁

Its weird the whole cryhavoc experience cause that unbalance element exists in many games in purpose. For example Twilight Imperium, cosmic encounter, Vilainous and of course Dune among many. The factions are deliberetly unbalanced and the players balance it with alliances or constant poking the ovepowered ones. Maybe some like it maybe some not but the fact remains that a game designer has done something like that before and most game designers probably know these games so it shouldnt be so strange to ask or even offensive to ask about this "unbalanced" element.

Like scanners yeah! Hahaa!!

Love the channel and that you have the balls to call out that wingspan is a fluffed up top trumps💪🙀

@BoardGameBollocks

5 жыл бұрын

Not the most popular view I must admit, but we tell it how it is here...thanks for the feedback 👍

The only game I’d considering buying is 7th Continent for that choose your adventure style game. I think all the others I will now give a miss for the reasons you gave. I think another I’d add to the crap list is Spirit Island which bored the living day lights out of me and felt like I was fiddling with monopoly pieces.

@BoardGameBollocks

2 жыл бұрын

I sold 7th continent. The game fell apart after the first part and felt like it was repeating itself.

@thomascocks9136

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this videos criticism of 7th continent. I sold it pretty quick

Well done 👍 dad

@BoardGameBollocks

3 жыл бұрын

👍🏻

I very nearly got rid of zombicide because I just found it a dice fest... but since learned to love it. I did however get rid the 'war of tanks' card game 'Rush'... it was bought from The Works and just wasn't worth it.

@BoardGameBollocks

5 жыл бұрын

We nearly dumped Zombicide until we house ruled the targeting hierarchy. We now own all 3 seasons with all big box expansions.

@garethbattell9989

5 жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks we have had to do a similar thing! Appears a few people don't really like that mechanic!

Agree about Wingspan, it is just an overproduced card game.

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Top Trumps with Birds innit

@michaeleames5336

4 жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks I generally think Stonemaier games are overproduced. If you strip the games back to their core mechanisms and treat them like dry euros they don't compare to games like Troyes, Concordia..... etc.

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Prob an accurate observation. Maybe only Scythe bucks that trend but there’s still a few facets of that one that seem tacked on.

Agreed on Descent, disagree on Wingspan and Dominant Species. Wingspan i have used as a gateway game and so far it has never failed to get people into this wonderful hobby of ours. Dominant Species Is a marmite game. I do struggle to get it to the table as it rewards players that know how to play it much more than most games do. Experience at the game heavily favours your chances of winning much more than most games i have played. This puts me off suggesting it as no one should want to dominate the game play that much. We and should all be able to agree to disagree. Recently found your channel and find it very refreshing to find a you tube creator that says it as they see it. Keep up the good work 😊

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

👍🏻

@mchamberlain7408

Жыл бұрын

Same. I love how I agree with lots of the opinions on this channel and also disagree on lots. Who gaf, variety of opinion is the spice of life.

Respect your opinions. Even agree with some of them.

@BoardGameBollocks

2 жыл бұрын

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Completely agree with wingspan, very simple boring game.

Have to say I totally agree with your comments on Wingspan... though my wife won’t let me sell it... although one game we did agree on selling was 7th Continent, we just didn’t get what the hype was at all... far too much chance and random bumpf, poor interesting characters and story... Tainted Grail is the game 7th continent should have been.

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Lend us £300 and I’ll do a tainted grail review 🤣😂

@thomascocks9136

Жыл бұрын

I got tainted grail after really wanting to like 7th continent. I feel like the story and sense of direction will be what makes it work for me. I got it and the expansion for $100 AUD so pretty happy

I agree the humans in CryHavoc are overpowered in the default setup. All the races are modular though. So we nerfed the humans. (But then another race became overpowered.. so we... and then... oh ok).

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

I rebought this after burning my original copy (yes i did) but I’ve yet to play it. May have to dig it out again.

@zsoltnagy3991

15 күн бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks The only thing which makes Humans "overpowered" is their default skill card. Try using the one in Aftermath instead and see if you like the game it creates better. IMHO humans are not really "overpowered" but rather easy, in the sense that finding their winning strategy is simple (just abuse their default skill card as much as you can). Cry Havoc is also the best with four, if the Trogs are actively controlled by a player they can be quite a thorn in the humans' side. With three players and passive trogs the humans can indeed pull way ahead easily.

Great review … finally a bloke that speaks the truth against the hype. Dominant Species … crap. Dominance species calculation are a waste of time. Wingspan - buy a bird book instead. Rare to have a guy speak against hype and get canceled by thin skinned designers. Awesome guy !

The ultimate insult to the Cry Havoc cry baby,,, just chuck the f,,,ing game in the bin. 😅

I got bored with 7th Continent within minutes of playing

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Same here. I read a Gamebook instead and had a better time of it

@theshogunstein6475

4 жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks worst KS investment for me. Hey please check out my KZread channel and subscribe.

I love wingspan because my wife will play it as she enjoys the art style and theme.

@ImperialGit

7 ай бұрын

Simp XD

This shows you can't tell who is a hard core board gamer... 😁 DS is pure stupidity, agreed.

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure I understand what you mean...

@diamondmeeple

4 жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks You look more into soccer ;-) ... hehe

I agree that Dominant Feces is the #1 Worst Gaming Moment of All Time 😂😂🍩 Once was one time too many.

@BoardGameBollocks

3 жыл бұрын

Finally! Someone who agrees…hallelujah!!! 😂

cry havoc creator went mental. That's speaking volumes. Will avoid his crap at any cost then. Thanks!@ subbed. Honest reviews are rare. The others I fully agree with so no reason to doubt your cry havoc opinion.

i could Listen to you talk all day (No homo). i'm a Fighting Fantasy fan and i listen to your review series of the books in one sitting

Calculating dominance is easy. The next tiles doesn’t effect the dominance of your current tile. This sounds like you got the rules wrong because it’s not supposed to be this complicated. It’s my number 3 game and I wish I can teach you it correctly.

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

We didn’t get the rules wrong. The game is just a mess 👍🏻

@Straddllw

Жыл бұрын

@@BoardGameBollocks Maybe you didn't get the rules wrong when you played, but the way you explained it here is clearly incorrect 11:30 - 11:35. Maybe it all just became such a headache for you after playing it that you can't be bothered to get it right when you made this video.

@BoardGameBollocks

Жыл бұрын

It’s a brief over view of the rules mate…not a how to play video 🤷

"Sit up and Shut Down" - hehehehe good one. But Cry Havoc? I get that if the dev pissed you off, sure. Bin it. But the game itself is fine (especially with the expansion), Humans are easy mode only if other players make an effort of ignoring them, the thing with them is that they are most forgiving plus easy scoring. But start moving towards them early and they are f'ed. Agree with Wingspan, always disliked that game. Zero care for what it is. I don't play games to make political statements about empowering the dev.

We played 10 games of Cry Havoc so far.. Humans won Twice.. You play with people who don't know strategy/tactics of this game and you're probably one of them..

@BoardGameBollocks

4 жыл бұрын

I know one thing... I wouldn’t play with rude people like you.