Top 5 AoE2 Civilizations (According to Science)

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Which are the best civilizations in 1v1? Let's dive into the stats and see which ones win the most!
Check out the full list of civilization stats and rankings at aoestats.io/
1:00 #5
2:05 #4
3:50 #3
5:40 #2
6:55 Honorable Mentions
8:45 #1
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  • @Hjortur95
    @Hjortur955 жыл бұрын

    i always picked the civilizations with the nicest rooftops

  • @lordlythis1407

    @lordlythis1407

    5 жыл бұрын

    Middle Europe civilizations got the best rooftops.

  • @vikar7739

    @vikar7739

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mine picked by the nicest wonder 😂

  • @damiencovey5471

    @damiencovey5471

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me to

  • @MauroEnfermoDeLepra

    @MauroEnfermoDeLepra

    4 жыл бұрын

    Whichever lets you hide behind bombard towers

  • @namisanws2340

    @namisanws2340

    4 жыл бұрын

    @tututuims ieijebdo dont be racist

  • @Akutabai5
    @Akutabai55 жыл бұрын

    Dev1: What should we give the Franks? Dev2: 25% bonus to collecting Berries D1: What? why? D2: Because the French can't live without wine obviously

  • @disputeone

    @disputeone

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hon hon hon hon

  • @jeremytournayre8745

    @jeremytournayre8745

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually we should get free food from ships because wa also loooooove cheese

  • @Luca-vw7fs

    @Luca-vw7fs

    4 жыл бұрын

    et le pain?

  • @maniac2344

    @maniac2344

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jérémy Tournayre And snails

  • @Ganlix

    @Ganlix

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Josh Hewitt ?

  • @c1xcx
    @c1xcx5 жыл бұрын

    "to be frank..." lol

  • @TZerot0

    @TZerot0

    5 жыл бұрын

    Spat out my coffee twice 🤣

  • @PWN4G3FTW

    @PWN4G3FTW

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I specifically looked for this comment or I would have mentioned it. No way this wasnt intended.

  • @kln5705

    @kln5705

    5 жыл бұрын

    This isn't the first time he's made this joke, either. I don't know where it happened first, but it's one of the Steam modded SoTL taunts, so definitely happened before

  • @felixrr7381

    @felixrr7381

    5 жыл бұрын

    I see what you did there

  • @balazsfenyes3880

    @balazsfenyes3880

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do they consider the fact that they surrender 1st in a non 1v1 fight?

  • @cano3391
    @cano33915 жыл бұрын

    Video starts at 0:00

  • @MeMe-dv5mv

    @MeMe-dv5mv

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @cano3391

    @cano3391

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MeMe-dv5mv u re welcome

  • @Gunth0r

    @Gunth0r

    5 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your comment and I bet, if you put this elsewhere, all producers appreciate it too. It's gotta be annoying when you conceptualize, create and then edit a 10 minute video each day/couple days and then half of your audience gets pushed to the second half of the video by the top comment something like: "what you're looking for is at 5:12" WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, I WANT TO WASTE MY TIME ON KZread

  • @ashmonkey2572

    @ashmonkey2572

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Gunth0r in my experience these sort of comments are usually found under videos with clickbait titles or thumbnails or with a filler at the beginning.

  • @Gunth0r

    @Gunth0r

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ashmonkey2572 yeah at first, but then people started doing it everywhere and got top voted. but now, one year later, the trend has calmed down and reached some sort of equilibrium. At least, that's my impression.

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor5 жыл бұрын

    Oh please Spirit. I have a 0% winrate with all these civs! Granted, I also have a 0% winrate with every other civ. But that's irrelevant.

  • @clementcronier7861

    @clementcronier7861

    5 жыл бұрын

    Take a simple advice given by Sun Tzu in the Art Of War : GIT GUD LEL

  • @gamejawkeh6231

    @gamejawkeh6231

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@clementcronier7861 sun tzu never said get good, he was a mind artist, trap your own infantry and they will fight twice as hard to survive lol

  • @Redfork2000

    @Redfork2000

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gamejawkeh6231 When you don't get a joke.

  • @gamejawkeh6231

    @gamejawkeh6231

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Redfork2000 was a pretty terrible joke.

  • @ApocalipsisEnSabah

    @ApocalipsisEnSabah

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@gamejawkeh6231 Quoting Sun Tzu: r/swoosh

  • @DaftSpunky
    @DaftSpunky5 жыл бұрын

    I miss that Spanish villager one shotting the Cobra car

  • @balazsfenyes3880

    @balazsfenyes3880

    5 жыл бұрын

    Where are the Spanish with their beefy villagers and mounted cannoners?

  • @jean-edouardahmedozzi6120

    @jean-edouardahmedozzi6120

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@balazsfenyes3880 Where is the horn that was blowing ?

  • @MrMisterCritique

    @MrMisterCritique

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120 where is the helm and the hauberk.

  • @pacoramon9468

    @pacoramon9468

    4 жыл бұрын

    They have to Reconquista at 5PM.

  • @Churly25

    @Churly25

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120 I understand the reference xd but I've watched LOTR only in spanish cuz its my language

  • @Mephisto28890
    @Mephisto288905 жыл бұрын

    FAKE NEWS! Best civs are: -Mirror Civ -Random Civ -Spectators

  • @noxious8

    @noxious8

    5 жыл бұрын

    Spectators never lose!

  • @nemlas85

    @nemlas85

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@noxious8 still, they have a 0% win rate

  • @noxious8

    @noxious8

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nemlas85 true

  • @IndSoc

    @IndSoc

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Fosterome455 heck yeah, show them the facts and logic

  • @ImRandomDude

    @ImRandomDude

    5 жыл бұрын

    doesnt 1v1 mirror civ have 50% wr?

  • @bramdepaepe8075
    @bramdepaepe80755 жыл бұрын

    "1V1 me bruv" is becoming science, what a time to be alive

  • @rotuj9752
    @rotuj97525 жыл бұрын

    Can you also do the worst?

  • @rikosakurauchi7161

    @rikosakurauchi7161

    5 жыл бұрын

    korean and saracen no eco early bonus

  • @ShadowChozo

    @ShadowChozo

    5 жыл бұрын

    Turks without gold, done.

  • @salildeshpande7

    @salildeshpande7

    5 жыл бұрын

    1. Teutons, 2. Turks

  • @CrnaStrela

    @CrnaStrela

    5 жыл бұрын

    1. Khmer 2. Vietnamese 3. Portuguese 4. Saracens Khmer is interesting because their WR is at 35% while the next worst civ has 40-41-ish. I don't know what made them so bad, I was expecting them to be around the middle group, not absolutely bottom of the group. Also for smartass who thinks Teutons and Turks are the worst, they are actually around the middle, Turks has 46%, Teutons has 49%, for comparison sake Mongol has 50% WR while Malay has 46%. Teutons and Turks aren't really that behind against those so called "Top tier" civs.

  • @quangduybui2181

    @quangduybui2181

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@rikosakurauchi7161 they do have eco bonus, if you build the Market.

  • @KazimirQ7G
    @KazimirQ7G5 жыл бұрын

    When facing against Franks, a player thinks "Yes! This match is gonna be gg easy", and then starts playing lazy. That's why Franks win. *Their bonus is a mindset nerf to the opponent.*

  • @CrnaStrela

    @CrnaStrela

    5 жыл бұрын

    More like: "Haha they gonna make knights it is so obvious, I just gotta make spears from the very beginning." And RIP in pieces economy.

  • @emmanuelperrault8584

    @emmanuelperrault8584

    5 жыл бұрын

    So true, plus you get the scouts out just to reassure them your going knights lol... Than suprise my cheap castles allowed for throwing axemen lol.

  • @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    5 жыл бұрын

    I actually knew franks were OP all along. Their throwing axemen deal melee damage at a distance. That is the most powerful damage type as it destroys both skrimishers (archer's counter) and structures at a distance.

  • @sauravtripathi4128

    @sauravtripathi4128

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mauriciojorgeyattah8871 what about the Gbeto then. Speed greater than Teutonic Paladin, almost equal to Celtic Woad Raiders, even higher melee damage at greater range. They basically perform hit and run with greater damage output in Castle Age, due to that melee thing.

  • @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sauravtripathi4128 Gbeto are not bad but 1- They are very fragile 2- Opponent will expect them

  • @dkjoko
    @dkjoko3 жыл бұрын

    my friend first time play AOE choose Huns, there are no option to build house, he thought instalation files are corrupt. so he has to reinstall the game 🤣

  • @user-lt5lz4mv2k

    @user-lt5lz4mv2k

    2 жыл бұрын

    ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

  • @nicodangond5822

    @nicodangond5822

    Жыл бұрын

    He's like a millionaire who complains for being taxed too little, in California lmfao

  • @joefva
    @joefva5 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad, because for all these years I have been watching the (great) videos of Spirit of the Law, I always thought Franks were the most underestimated civilization of all, downlooked as just a knight civ, when their castle drop(s) and unique unit can actually be very interesting!

  • @bradlas9592
    @bradlas95925 жыл бұрын

    It was obvious. The team that had La Hire was going to win.

  • @jasv49

    @jasv49

    5 жыл бұрын

    LA HIRE WISHES TO KILL SOMETHING

  • @Reaper_03-01

    @Reaper_03-01

    4 жыл бұрын

    THE BLOOD ON LA HIRES SWORD IS ALMOST DRY

  • @0507MAZ

    @0507MAZ

    4 жыл бұрын

    THE POOP ON LA HIRE PANTS IS ALMOST DRIED

  • @1A_B_C1

    @1A_B_C1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Whats la hire

  • @nathanbarnes8535

    @nathanbarnes8535

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is a good day.. for La Hire to die.

  • @JohnnyHand
    @JohnnyHand5 жыл бұрын

    I love your vids, great job!!!

  • @jollygrapefruit786

    @jollygrapefruit786

    6 ай бұрын

    What's up u still playing?

  • @sebastiantapia804
    @sebastiantapia8045 жыл бұрын

    Your vids are a treat to watch, I love the sound editing, as well as how rigorous you are with the data, great vid, as always

  • @ahbraveconscript997
    @ahbraveconscript9975 жыл бұрын

    Objection! someone called huns "one trick pony" in the overeview. now suddenly they are "flexible"?!

  • @diegobasterrica6311

    @diegobasterrica6311

    5 жыл бұрын

    XD. I was thinking about that....

  • @SpiritOfTheLaw

    @SpiritOfTheLaw

    5 жыл бұрын

    True. I've had a few years to think about it.

  • @09kaustubh

    @09kaustubh

    5 жыл бұрын

    In the mid game

  • @TheKritiker100

    @TheKritiker100

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SpiritOfTheLaw Honestly, I would find it amazing if you redid some of your older civ reviews. Some of them even have a completely different format from the newer ones.

  • @szylaj

    @szylaj

    5 жыл бұрын

    maybe they are flexible on average, but in the top play there is only one viable option realy.

  • @ambm9808
    @ambm98085 жыл бұрын

    It says something that in a highest win ration list, most are still just in the 50 percentages, and only one is above 60%. Its a really well balanced game.

  • @CrnaStrela

    @CrnaStrela

    5 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, expect this 60% to get nerfed and khmer (35%) gets buffed

  • @brujua7

    @brujua7

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CrnaStrela the problem is that the game it is not just 1v1, so by balancing 1v1 you unbalance team games too. Don´t get me wrong, khmer need some buff or re-balance but it must be carefully thought and tested.

  • @ambm9808

    @ambm9808

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Siddios Huh, interesting. Why is that?

  • @CrnaStrela

    @CrnaStrela

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Siddios franks is also 1st in 2k+ ELO, in fact Franks is not 1st only in below 1500 bracket which is low tier players. I've watched some 1v1 tourney of franks too, they absolutely demolished. Although sample size is convoluted in Tourney because there's not enough game for that.

  • @satyakisil4289

    @satyakisil4289

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Siddios Franks have 63% win rate in 2k+ elo.

  • @joaovilaca1436
    @joaovilaca14365 жыл бұрын

    I don't even play AoE2, but your videos are simply the best. Very entertaining and informative. Congrats.

  • @X_mezo_X

    @X_mezo_X

    5 жыл бұрын

    same, it is a majestic feeling to enjoy long videos of a game that you don't actually play, makes you admire how good these videos really are. ^^

  • @alexbrowne9566
    @alexbrowne95665 жыл бұрын

    Love the boppy music transition when it goes to number 1. Was waiting for that lol

  • @harrisonbaylor1432
    @harrisonbaylor14325 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t played an years. But I always liked the Huns house bonus because it saves a little bit of time and you don’t have to worry about losing buildings to support your population.

  • @danieleliahushapiro4280
    @danieleliahushapiro42804 жыл бұрын

    In History, France has surprisingly the largest number of battle victories ever and the highest success rate. The game is therefore quite accurate.

  • @hawkdubz3094

    @hawkdubz3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean they couldnt beat the british

  • @hawkdubz3094

    @hawkdubz3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or the nazis

  • @danieleliahushapiro4280

    @danieleliahushapiro4280

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's why I had said 'battles' not the wars. With the notable exception that against all odds the French won against the English in the 100 years war. A humiliating defeat for England what's more.

  • @nicodangond5822

    @nicodangond5822

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hawkdubz3094 LMAO the British are ruled by French vikings... And look up the 100 years war, spoiler, the French won.

  • @hawkdubz3094

    @hawkdubz3094

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nicodangond5822 englands still won more wars against the french then the French have on england bud 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @I3oozeAddict
    @I3oozeAddict5 жыл бұрын

    Not surprised Saracens aren't on the list. Everyone knows they dominate the team games, due to their team bonus.

  • @Morbacounet

    @Morbacounet

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Adolf Schinkler SotL pointed it in his video about best civ combos.

  • @satyakisil4289

    @satyakisil4289

    5 жыл бұрын

    #Clearly.

  • @stylesrj

    @stylesrj

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that team bonus is so OP. It should be nerfed.

  • @derPandre
    @derPandre5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Spirit, I HOPE you read this. I watch the "Change my mind"-setup in the past weeks quite frequently, and I want you to know that i laughed SO hard about the image at the 30 Seconds-mark. Love your vid's!!

  • @legion2590
    @legion25905 жыл бұрын

    I went to the Franks data page and saw that they have the highest win rate against Saracens... the civ that supposedly has a strong knight counter unit. Saracens need buff.

  • @whisperwalkful

    @whisperwalkful

    5 жыл бұрын

    The knight counter (mameluke) wont matter because its too expensive for 1v1

  • @mayuri4184

    @mayuri4184

    5 жыл бұрын

    That explains the Frankish victory at Tours.

  • @HiilandKew

    @HiilandKew

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@whisperwalkful Why would succesful 1v1 require only cheap units?

  • @whisperwalkful

    @whisperwalkful

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@HiilandKew 1v1 has no trade and therefore gold is limited. Expensive units will rarely get made in 1v1. Mamelukes are not just expensive, they also require a castle which is even more expensive, and the civ does not have eco bonuses to support creating it, and finally mameluke are not great in castle age, but only shine in post imperial after elite mameluke and zealotry which are even more expensive techs. In team games its another ballgame due to trade producing unlimited gold and team games taking longer generally. Your allies can defend you till your army is ready.

  • @max_im_um

    @max_im_um

    5 жыл бұрын

    Counters (camels) are great but they aren't so useful if they come out late. As highlighted in the video the Franks are able to pump out their knights early on (3rd fastest Castle age). By the time the Saracens are able to make camels their already weak eco has suffered too much damage, making it impossible to produce lots of camels. As for mamelukes well, they require a castle, which isn't practical when knights are already harassing your economy.

  • @Im_Mr_Lonely
    @Im_Mr_Lonely4 жыл бұрын

    Oh man... your analysis are by far the best ones regarding AoC. You are such a scholar. Thanks for this. I really hope the developers of Age II DE contact you often before making balance decisions. After having gone through the change log up to patch 5.8, I didn't spit out my coffee with the Franks. Boosted in every single age, Free bloodline was too much, plus squires. No weakness for Franks. I hope in the future versions of the game each civs "at least" will have "a chance" to stand against stronger ones in the most popular maps. Balance in early ages is critical.

  • @MoonaSalmonfish
    @MoonaSalmonfish5 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the great work SOTL, it's been your videos that have gotten me back into AOE2, even if you haven't realized the Teutons are obviously #1

  • @aniketkulkarni6341

    @aniketkulkarni6341

    5 жыл бұрын

    MoonaSalmonfish if you have good gold and food and the game reaches almost post imp then teutons will destroy everything

  • @silentgrind34

    @silentgrind34

    5 жыл бұрын

    it is not me Why?

  • @aniketkulkarni6341

    @aniketkulkarni6341

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@silentgrind34 teutons are pretty generic and have almost lot of units. They have generic knight line. Good siege and gunpowder so this allows them to have more counters. If they build knights and handcannons they can be very strong with it and counter almost anything. Plus due their team bonus they resist conversion. So converting their knights will be difficult. They are more like turks if u can keep the gold incoming u can play the game for a very long time

  • @silentgrind34

    @silentgrind34

    5 жыл бұрын

    it is not me If I'm using the teutons umagainst a 2v1 game against BruteForce AI what are some tips for surviving? it seems almost everytime I attack I get beat back. Cant seem to finish the AI off

  • @Aryan-hv3lw

    @Aryan-hv3lw

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Teutonic Knights are too slow. Archers and Castles would devour them alive. But yes, the Teutons do domineer towards the end.

  • @nergalsmom
    @nergalsmom5 жыл бұрын

    What a redemption for the Franks! Charlemagne be laughing from the hereafter :D

  • @Ganlix

    @Ganlix

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jessejames3660 Charlemagne was a frank too

  • @xotl2780
    @xotl27805 жыл бұрын

    What?! 60%?! That's impossible, your scouter must be broken!

  • @perrymeril

    @perrymeril

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its over 60.00%!!!!!!!

  • @emmanuelperrault8584

    @emmanuelperrault8584

    5 жыл бұрын

    As a Franks main I saw this guy bash my Siv.... But this video was victory.... Fuck u all I'm finally satisfied. Also throwing axemen are under rated. They are cheap, castles are cheap so you can get em of the field easily and if your against goths..m well the goths are just fucked because they will go infantry. Never even touch your units even if they do axemen got lots of armor.

  • @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@emmanuelperrault8584 I actually knew franks were OP all along. Their throwing axemen deal melee damage at a distance. That is the most powerful damage type as it destroys both skrimishers (archer's counter) and structures at a distance.

  • @stupid2574

    @stupid2574

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@emmanuelperrault8584 Franks overview had me salty but this is redemption

  • @Kruemmelmonstaaa13
    @Kruemmelmonstaaa135 жыл бұрын

    now do bottom 5 civs, the worst of the worst ^^

  • @davidengvall3902

    @davidengvall3902

    5 жыл бұрын

    Which are the worst civs? turks? Saracens?

  • @davidengvall3902

    @davidengvall3902

    5 жыл бұрын

    Khmer you say... I heard from T90 that Khmer has a very great lategame combo with elefants and siege! I guess we will have to wait and see which civs truly are the worst

  • @GuilhermeMiranda89

    @GuilhermeMiranda89

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jan Sitkowski Saracens are really good civ. Great camels, great economy, amazing fast castle and great tech tree with fine barracks, archers and siege.

  • @TheKobasen

    @TheKobasen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Many people in 1vs1 rarely use market and didn't bother to use mameluke because 85gold so yeah... A lot of people considered saracens to be on of the worst civ

  • @JourneyLT

    @JourneyLT

    5 жыл бұрын

    5. Khmer 4. Khmer 3. Khmer 2. Khmer 1. Khmer

  • @fafofafin
    @fafofafin5 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely surprised not to see the mongols there.

  • @TheKlyn10

    @TheKlyn10

    5 жыл бұрын

    They're the exception

  • @romamgebrishvili7188

    @romamgebrishvili7188

    5 жыл бұрын

    You need to be be especially good player to win 1v1 with Mongols, cuz they have big drop from castel to post imp, well you could finish guy in feudal with Mongols but you must be viper and opponent fatslob on Arabia😂 my fav civ though

  • @disputeone

    @disputeone

    5 жыл бұрын

    Communist.

  • @MrWasian

    @MrWasian

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@romamgebrishvili7188 they get better in post-imp and yeah one of the best fuedal. Their castle age does suck sadly, they're stronger in team games for sure.

  • @GuilhermeMiranda89
    @GuilhermeMiranda895 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! So happy to see Incas on top 5. Love it Franks there too, really nice stables and Knight Rush is a common and easy strategy for noobs and regular players. Also it's nice t see all 3 mesoamerican civs on top 8.

  • @chrismiami1332
    @chrismiami13325 жыл бұрын

    This was so well done! Subbed

  • @TheSpicyLeg
    @TheSpicyLeg5 жыл бұрын

    The Franks surprise me. I’ll admit that I gravitate towards them (favorite civs are Franks, Teutons, and Byzantines) because of paladin/cataphract, but I’m not a pro player. I assumed those civs are for us casual players, and I can beat other Franks and Teutons players easily on random civ, but that may be due to me knowing them inside and out. I struggle against civs like Britons or Italians (damn those Genoese Crossbowmen!) for the same reason. Great video.

  • @lewisalexanderrimmer4655
    @lewisalexanderrimmer46555 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video, it rekindled my interest in the game abit

  • @kln5705
    @kln57055 жыл бұрын

    Amazing content, as always. Thank you!

  • @simplord9788
    @simplord97883 жыл бұрын

    I was so surprised to see Franks at the top. I've only recently started to play AoE2, and I love it. I also only recently decided to main Franks as my civ without any knowledge of this 1v1 data. Go Franks!

  • @darkranger116
    @darkranger1165 жыл бұрын

    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'VE BEEN MAINING FRANKS SINCE 1998!!! MY SUPERIOR MILITARY GENIUS OF THROWING AXEMEN BACKED UP BY PALADINS HAS FINALLY BEEN PROVEN BY SCCIIEEENNNCCEE!!!!

  • @zeroyuki92

    @zeroyuki92

    5 жыл бұрын

    Science bitches!

  • @satyakisil4289

    @satyakisil4289

    5 жыл бұрын

    But the game came out in 1999.

  • @ironscorpion5131

    @ironscorpion5131

    5 жыл бұрын

    Throwing Axemen have always been one of my most loved unique units in the game.

  • @ironscorpion5131

    @ironscorpion5131

    5 жыл бұрын

    Throwing Axemen have always been one of my most loved unique units in the game.

  • @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    @mauriciojorgeyattah8871

    5 жыл бұрын

    I actually knew franks were OP all along. Their throwing axemen deal melee damage at a distance. That is the most powerful damage type as it destroys both skrimishers (archer's counter) and structures at a distance.

  • @m136dalie
    @m136dalie5 жыл бұрын

    *SPOILER* I think the fact Franks are #1 is because of how strong a fast castle is at lower levels of play. Let's face it, most aoe2 players aren't pro (like myself) and strategies like fast castling that wouldn't be viable at top level are for most players. This explained by the fact they have the 3rd fastest castle time of any civ. That paired with the fact they're also viable at pro level now too (because of berries and scouts getting bonus), it makes sense they're at the top. Still wouldn't have picked Franks though, was expecting Mayans.

  • @luigisgl2639

    @luigisgl2639

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is what I thought at first. But when you like at the data, you see that Franks have the highest win ratio even for players having more than 2000 elo.

  • @schuhey7021

    @schuhey7021

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think its actually their deceptively good unit composition. Everyone thinks they are a cavalry civ, but they get a ranged melee unit in the throwing axeman, hand cannoneers, bombard cannons, halbs, champs, full castle age upgrade crossbows and even cheap castle drops for aggression. Add to that the strongest paladin in the game, they can counter almost any army.

  • @marcomassella2186

    @marcomassella2186

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tbh I was expecting spanish or Mongols.... I guess people don't make enough pikes 🙂

  • @obesechicken13

    @obesechicken13

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@schuhey7021 Access to HC and Bombards helps in imp but for the most part Franks are very predictable. Either scouts or fast castle into knights. But predictable doesn't mean easy to beat here.

  • @schuhey7021

    @schuhey7021

    5 жыл бұрын

    obesechicken13 thats certainly true but i also think there is room for them to diversify in the mid game after starting with cav options. Of course most people would prefer to just stick with what they are good at though which is fine, they are damn good at cav spam

  • @MHBlacky_GER
    @MHBlacky_GER5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! May we expect another video where you analyze the changes in the top 5 civs in team games? ^-^

  • @tobiasschleusser8903
    @tobiasschleusser89035 жыл бұрын

    Awesome data analysis! Thanks for making this game so fascinating with every video! A question that came up while watching this video: What games were analysed? Only games from high-rated players? Because i guess that stronger players tend to use a civ the correct way, whilst bad players just don't know the advantages of their civs and just fight with random units.

  • @SamNg311
    @SamNg3115 жыл бұрын

    I always hit the like button before watching your videos, Spirit :3

  • @Realunmaker
    @Realunmaker5 жыл бұрын

    I've stopped playing AoE 2 so many years ago and yet your videos are always so fun to watch. Like Lowko and Starcraft 2

  • @TZerot0
    @TZerot05 жыл бұрын

    I've been looking forward to this video for years

  • @blondegirl7240
    @blondegirl72405 жыл бұрын

    A new video!!! Thanks for your effort!

  • @Flavourius
    @Flavourius5 жыл бұрын

    With the term science I was expecting some out of context comparison like: "Top 5 civs with the most tech upgrades while having the best tech discounts" I dunno if something like that would make sense to do in the first place but have it as a free idea to make more videos, since I really like your comparison videos :D

  • @mihaelcajsa1176

    @mihaelcajsa1176

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought it would be something like top 5 civs by science and history. Basically how good and powerfull were they through history

  • @Flavourius

    @Flavourius

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mihaelcajsa1176 yeah, my initial thought was also about how accurate they were compared to real life but then it wouldn't make sense to make a top 5 around them.

  • @ichigoblackTWD
    @ichigoblackTWD5 жыл бұрын

    I love Franks, so i am happy

  • @CarlosFGM

    @CarlosFGM

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pero qué haces aquí compañero XD

  • @Vahe345

    @Vahe345

    3 жыл бұрын

    levey?

  • @loganbower1315
    @loganbower13159 ай бұрын

    Love the content, keep up the great work!

  • @Kyoptic
    @Kyoptic5 жыл бұрын

    A little loud on the music towards the end, Spirit, but apart from that, great video, as always! :D

  • @The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge
    @The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge5 жыл бұрын

    what is the song/music that plays when you annonce the #1? also, i find it funny (or interesting) to see the 3 no-stable civs in the top 8

  • @giantWario
    @giantWario5 жыл бұрын

    People think Franks are weaker then they actually are simply because they are predictable. But heres the thing, being predictable doesn't matter if you can't defeat them even when you know what they are going to do. Frank cavalry is so strong that pikes are really the only good counter against them in the castle age. Problem is, the Franks unique units absolutely wreck pikeman and their fast castle time as well as the castles themselves being cheaper means its very easy to transition into them. They also got crossbows. Theres almost no army composition in the game that can beat Frank cavalry backed by throwing axeman and the few armies that could beat that usually requires the imperial age and tons of upgrade and research. I'm sure lots of people at every skill level would find Inca and Aztec more dominant simply because you never know what they are going to do. But thats exactly what makes Franks really overpowered, the fact that you always know what they are going to do and still lose! Even Indians, which people often say are their counter, have negative win rates against them even at over 2000 rating! It would be like arguing that Hulk is a weak Avengers because all he can do is smash while the others are so much more versatiles. Yeah but all the Hulk needs to do is smash. And all the Franks need are their cavalry.

  • @romamgebrishvili7188

    @romamgebrishvili7188

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always win 1v1 with Franks against camel civs, have won against malians and Indians. One of the strongest even though I personally think that post imp Mongols are strongest civ. U just can't kill fuckin mangudais😂 God, I love them. Franks are definitely second strongest u could argue number 1 cuz of Mongols big drop from castel to imp. What makes Franks strong besides palas is 4 things: eco, halbs, bomb canons and axmen with cheap Castles. U op is infantry civ? Go with axmen and bomb canons, ur op is camel civ? Go with halbs and bomb canons, some axmen as well other cases just go with palas😂 of course there are certain situations when u could win only with certain civ but all around u can go with Franks every day.

  • @Morgan_Black
    @Morgan_Black5 жыл бұрын

    The 5:15 editing and the "to be frank" were my favourite parts in this video :D

  • @danielwarrre4698
    @danielwarrre46985 жыл бұрын

    Spirit of the Law, dude you are a champion :) thank you for all you do mate

  • @keenanwalker6597
    @keenanwalker65975 жыл бұрын

    This is off topic but watching this makes me appreciate how AOE3 they got rid of the stone and also farms/ plantations are infinite unlike AOE2 you have to keep re planting them. It’s so much nicer especially when trying to boom your eco while attacking it’s hard to micro manage the farms

  • @kaido4465

    @kaido4465

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im late but aoe2 is still better tho

  • @Regunes
    @Regunes5 жыл бұрын

    YES ! JEANNE! Our castles and knight will blot out the sun!

  • @jakobendres3771
    @jakobendres37715 жыл бұрын

    that beat drop/music after place 1 was revealed added alot to the video imo!

  • @looksintolasers
    @looksintolasers4 жыл бұрын

    I know this is an old video, but I'm very impressed by the attention to detail and statistics here.

  • @Showsni
    @Showsni5 жыл бұрын

    Although Franks have the best win percentage overall, it looks like Slavs are the only civ without a lower than 50% matchup against anyone. That mean the Slavs are favoured to win in every single matchup (except against Ethiopia, which is neutral).

  • @zekramnordran9526
    @zekramnordran95265 жыл бұрын

    Given how the French are actually the most militarily succesful country in history (>inb4 WW2 surrender memes) it kinda adds up

  • @h0m3st4r

    @h0m3st4r

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, they do have a great track record of warding off invaders, made even more impressive by the fact that France is surrounded by historically powerful rivals, including Germany, Spain, and of course, the UK. Also, even though the French did get taken over early in both World Wars, they got their country back both times-and arguably would've done so even without the Allies' help. And let's also remember France's longstanding reputation for having some of the best food in the world.

  • @zekramnordran9526

    @zekramnordran9526

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@h0m3st4r The French may as well have been the best player for the allies in the Great War, by shouldering the burnt of the Western Front, such as their successful defense of Verdun and the introduction of the Renault Tank, the first effective tank design, which practically spearheaded the final push in the West, the best Allied fighter pilots were also French, such as Rene Fonck and Georges Guynemer

  • @LiquidIEx

    @LiquidIEx

    5 жыл бұрын

    The franks are germanic and not "french". The term "french" originated centuries after the one and only Frankenreich. Imagine if the Frankenreich would have stayed together and since it consisted of todays Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium and even North Italy, it would have easily ruled europa and crushed England. And there is really no point France would have won the World Wars without the alles. Germany was hugely in favor in terms of manpower in 1914 (+20 million vs France) and it had the biggest, most expensive and best drilled army in the world. There would have been no chance to defend that postion and thats why England helped them to contain the Kaiser. About WWII we dont really need to talk about, its so obvious.

  • @MK-ex4pb

    @MK-ex4pb

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ww1 and 2 the French got rushed because the Germans knew their late game was BAD

  • @mignonthon

    @mignonthon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sunstar salty

  • @fro23n
    @fro23n5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I will always click on a new Spirit of the Law video, despite not actively playing AOE 2. It's just so relaxing. You go, guy.

  • @thomasrogers3008
    @thomasrogers30085 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Amazing Vid. Cheers SOTL. Would you be able to do a similar vid which covers the best Civ (and, or Civ combos) for team wins (according to science)??? Thanks bud. Your vids are top quality.

  • @hepsbok171
    @hepsbok1715 жыл бұрын

    I see spirit video, hit like, then proceed to watch

  • @therealozurka

    @therealozurka

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same bro

  • @LELAZYDRAGON

    @LELAZYDRAGON

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @Gwaeddwynn

    @Gwaeddwynn

    5 жыл бұрын

    isnt that how you always watch your vids? because at the end of the video i totally forget to like it, and continue to watch the next one

  • @kln5705

    @kln5705

    5 жыл бұрын

    One of the very few channels I do that for. This lawful ghost is golden

  • @Birthold

    @Birthold

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's a simple man

  • @hjelsethak
    @hjelsethak5 жыл бұрын

    Nothing is more manly than large groups of men hurling axes at each other.

  • @BekeroParyin
    @BekeroParyin5 жыл бұрын

    That text effect at 5:13 is really nice

  • @alecgeddes5018
    @alecgeddes50185 жыл бұрын

    I think a 2v2 and 3x3 comparison with the same factors looked at would be a cool video too.

  • @chileandragon3392
    @chileandragon33924 жыл бұрын

    I think you need to do an update to this video for the new AoE II: DE and for the changes to this civilizations. Greetings from Chile Sorry for my english :P

  • @Kiddoomer
    @Kiddoomer5 жыл бұрын

    "Que trépasse si je faiblis !" - Godefroy de Montmirail, #Knights spam ftw :D

  • @MALEMization

    @MALEMization

    5 жыл бұрын

    I see someone who knows Les Visiteurs as well: The original ones that is!

  • @LELAZYDRAGON

    @LELAZYDRAGON

    5 жыл бұрын

    Montjoie ! Saint-Denis ! Que trépasse si je faiblis ! C'est OKKKKKKKKK !!!!!!!

  • @ignacejespers8201

    @ignacejespers8201

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Vindju, un Sarrassin!" - Jacouille la Fripouiile

  • @MALEMization

    @MALEMization

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ignacejespers8201 Ok screw this! I'm gonna watch the trilogy again! French translation: Ok j'en ai rien à faire! Je vais regarder la trilogie encore une fois!

  • @barathrum3107

    @barathrum3107

    5 жыл бұрын

    Godefroy le Hardis is French, not Frank, Franks are more German than French actually.

  • @belzebubukas
    @belzebubukas Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are best ASMR or something, helps me feel better

  • @TorrentKatten
    @TorrentKatten5 жыл бұрын

    Nice list, and intresting results!

  • @-Raylight
    @-Raylight5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but I think it should be Saracens because that team bonu- I mean Spanish, because *_Nobody Expect the Spanish Inquisition_*

  • @pommes0078

    @pommes0078

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spanish are the best in this game. I love to play them

  • @pacoramon9468

    @pacoramon9468

    4 жыл бұрын

    El Cid liked that.

  • @TheAsinum
    @TheAsinum5 жыл бұрын

    Franks were not only french. After Charlemagne/Karl der Große/Carl the Great the Franks split into west and east frankia which later formed the preprepre-states of France and Germany (and the Benelux etc)

  • @ionluv
    @ionluv5 жыл бұрын

    great vid as always

  • @brunolimaj7129
    @brunolimaj71295 жыл бұрын

    When you were talking about Franks the music volume was a little bit high, for the rest great video as always!

  • @virgileusa
    @virgileusa5 жыл бұрын

    Sotl is still underestimating franks he doesnt see how strong eco bonuses are. If you add up everything, (+150 res from berry faster collection rate +400 from mill upgrade + 150 from no bloodline) , *franks get 700 extra ressource by early castle age which is the equivalent of 5 knight +50 food.* *5 more knights than a generic civ is game breaker, whether frank wins or buys enough time to transition into one of the strongest late game composition.* There are no bad option they dont need like other early civs to win before late game, they can but they dont need it. As a quick comparison, -slavs needs to collect 4500 food from farms (so basically after dark age) in order to equal frank bonus. -Berbers need to spend 4400 ressources into knights which is the equivalent of 32.5 knights to equal frank bonus

  • @HiilandKew

    @HiilandKew

    5 жыл бұрын

    Franks should be nerfed a bit.

  • @vaunvaundra
    @vaunvaundra5 жыл бұрын

    When is civ remake overview? Like teutons, britons?

  • @Bulhakas
    @Bulhakas5 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Please do a similar video on the best civ pairs for team maps.

  • @oscarascal
    @oscarascal5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the intro song, I love it ! What's the outro song though ?

  • @MichaelCXVII
    @MichaelCXVII5 жыл бұрын

    The editing took me by surprise, also the missing intro.

  • @HolyKhaaaaan

    @HolyKhaaaaan

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me, too. Intro was so good.

  • @hakon1027
    @hakon10275 жыл бұрын

    lol, now i know why Franks are one of my most prefered Civ's since the release of the game :-D

  • @CommandanteRamon

    @CommandanteRamon

    4 жыл бұрын

    you are french? :-D

  • @Skaitania
    @Skaitania5 жыл бұрын

    The text editing with the scouting Eagle Warrior blew my mind. Well done, sneaking it in like that. There is also a stat on the website that is strange. How is the Franks' relic gold income so much higher than the average? They don't get a bonus for relics, do they?

  • @CrnaStrela

    @CrnaStrela

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just assumed they have so much map control they can gets all the relics while their enemies struggle with fighting their knights on their base.

  • @valthenarutonerd

    @valthenarutonerd

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cav civs tend to be able to hold map control a lot better than archer/infantry civs and because knights dislike monks the frank enemy is likely to go monks thus making it so the frank player also wants monks, because who doesn't want their knight back, that's just my theory though.

  • @sawolft
    @sawolft5 жыл бұрын

    @Spirit Of The Law, dont forget to take into account that if you need to build less house or no house, there is also less downtime due to villager constructing the building, meaning they are collecting more ressources meanwhile.

  • @eccentrichorse11
    @eccentrichorse115 жыл бұрын

    When You said Franks were no. 1 I thought it was a joke like you did in the top 5 archer video where you give no. 1 spot to the saracens

  • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
    @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y5 жыл бұрын

    I love the game, but I'm really bad. Last night, I played Vikings vs Aztecs (computer) on Normal, and lost.

  • @alexbrowne9566

    @alexbrowne9566

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pump up those skills, get a few tutorials in

  • @Cysubtor_8vb
    @Cysubtor_8vb5 жыл бұрын

    I've been toying around with the Franks lately and have been liking them. It's mainly because I've been trying to work onagers into my army more and throwing axemen backed by handcannoneers and bombards seem to do well with them, especially when my knights draw a wave of enemy pikeman and they charge right into my firing squad, lol

  • @aquajasa
    @aquajasa5 жыл бұрын

    I love the way you do the videos

  • @shounenda4291
    @shounenda42915 жыл бұрын

    SOTL: so who do you think is first? Burmese? Malians? Indians? Japanese? Me: lol i bet is something unexpected like Franks SOTL: Franks Me: * Freaks out *

  • @generalhyde007

    @generalhyde007

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thats what I was thinking!!!!

  • @followthelucario4388

    @followthelucario4388

    5 жыл бұрын

    *Franks out*

  • @the_number_one

    @the_number_one

    5 жыл бұрын

    Franks will die like flies with Indians. Faster castle age. Imperial camels to kill their Paladins. Best hand cannoneers to kill their axemen. Cheaper villagers to support the food requirement. Throw in more gold and more elephant archers to kill off any archers. Voila, French can stay out

  • @guguss3804

    @guguss3804

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@the_number_one Well, if you check the stats of the website, you'll see that franks win 53.48% of their games against indians. Way lower than their 60% average that's true, but still more than 50%.

  • @candrarazaka4351

    @candrarazaka4351

    5 жыл бұрын

    Indians can't rush knights, also their camels aren't really a replacement for raiding and melee combat unlike knights which are virtually strong against most type of units in the CA.

  • @shortstacksport
    @shortstacksport5 жыл бұрын

    How can you not mention the Throwing Axeman? They're amazing unique units

  • @righteousone8454
    @righteousone84543 жыл бұрын

    Amazing how I played this game in 2000, it was the first game or 2nd game that I played on my own PC (good ol' Windows 98), and it's 2020, and people still play it. Amazing...

  • @heresiarch.
    @heresiarch.5 жыл бұрын

    I really love the music you use during the #1 picks in every video. What's the name of that track and can it be found from Epidemic Sound?

  • @randellbragg5013

    @randellbragg5013

    5 жыл бұрын

    I thought most of their releases are pop kind of tracks same with mrsuicidesheep's releases nowadays....

  • @HaughtonTim
    @HaughtonTim5 жыл бұрын

    SotL I reckon that Franks are benefitted by their comparatively simple strategies - they tend to be easier to play for inexperienced players (like myself!)

  • @whisperwalkful

    @whisperwalkful

    5 жыл бұрын

    But they are also number 1 for games above 2000 elo

  • @zeroyuki92

    @zeroyuki92

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@whisperwalkful That means it's a simple strategy that is also hard to counter.

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel15 жыл бұрын

    Damn! I thought number 1 would be the Mongols...

  • @3Dthinker-
    @3Dthinker-5 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos 👍🏼 could you do another game play video? You haven’t done one in a long time 😕

  • @gibbeldon
    @gibbeldon5 жыл бұрын

    Loved the vid Missed the intro

  • @raptorjesues1445
    @raptorjesues14455 жыл бұрын

    Ok, so number one is either goths or spanish... *9 mins later* WTF

  • @HolyKhaaaaan

    @HolyKhaaaaan

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love those ones, too! I'm also sad they didn't make this list.

  • @chrisdaley2852

    @chrisdaley2852

    5 жыл бұрын

    Goths are apparently not good at all really. Especially among high rated players where it seems they have a negative winrate at all lengths of games. My guess is that pros put more pressure on at every stage of the game and so the Goths can't make it to the late game strong enough to swarm their opponent. In lower rated games, that strategy seems more effective. Also consider Arabia is probably one of the most common 1v1 maps whereas something like Black Forest is better for Goths. Spanish aren't as good as I would've thought. They suffer a slump in Imperial age that I guess kind of makes sense to some degree but I would've thought their flexibility would've helped them out more. I would've put them in maybe B+ and the stats reflect a sort of C rating at the pro level. Consider that this is 1v1 though and the Spanish probably have one of the best team bonuses in the game. Without it, the only eco bonus they get is the smith bonus which is mostly not impactful in the late game.

  • @JourneyLT

    @JourneyLT

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's that simple actually with the Goths. Funnily enough the average for the Goths shows more improvement in most games towards the end due to the Huskarl spam, however in 2000+ games, the opposite patter is present, where the Goths get weaker in games that go on for over an hour. According to the statistics, they are hard countered by Malay and Byzantines. Forced Levy is amazing. Turning the swordsman line into a trash unit is absurd and the Huskarl is weak to the swordsman line. Massed Malay trash swordsmen cannot be outlived by the Goth's gold. Byzantines have the splash damage of the Cataphract and they have very high endurance due to great trash. 25% cut on the price of skirms and halbs? Yes. That's endurance right there.

  • @oldmanyellsatscreen

    @oldmanyellsatscreen

    5 жыл бұрын

    In a 1v1 both suffer because of their poor early eco, so I'm not at all surprised. Having said that they can both be extremely fun to play, so if they work for you, go for it!

  • @spectre9065

    @spectre9065

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisdaley2852 Simply put, infantry are at the bottom of the rung among military units. The swordsman line isn't strong enough to justify using in most games, and while the spear line is good, they are mostly relegated to a counter unit. Same goes for the Huskarl. Goths get no good eco bonuses, bad cavalry and siege, and their archers are average. Spanish on the other hand are surprisingly good in 1v1, having a >50% win rate according to the site Spirit of the Law referenced. Faster build time, blacksmith upgrades costing no gold, open tech tree, great Castle unit. Arguably the best beginner civilization in the game, up there with Teutons.

  • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
    @MidlifeCrisisJoe5 жыл бұрын

    Franks make sense to me. Their bonuses aren't "sexy" in that they stand out as particularly unique like Huns and their lack of houses, but they're all quite effective and fairly subtle. Stuff like the substantially cheaper castles and the improved farms means they can not only castle age rush well, but also just get those castles out faster (less stone needs to be collected) and put out more of them, which means good early castle harrassment. The free bloodlines makes scout rushing in feudal very viable. Having a few of their cheap castles means you can get to imperial and research the key upgrade techs you want without halting production of units if you are laying down a castle in enemy territory too, especially if you're picking up conscription. And like you said, the berry picking speed, though seemingly so minor a thing, gets them through the dark age period quickly and into their improved farming economy well.

  • @virgileusa

    @virgileusa

    5 жыл бұрын

    eco bonuses are really strong 750 food collected 25% faster means 750 collected when others 600 so 150 ressource bonus when you hit castle age, free farm upgrade is 400 ressources No bloodline to upgrade : 150 resources saved When franks hit castle age and start making knights they are 700 ressources ahead a generic civ doing the same with most of it being food, the most expensive ressource early/mid game. Not any other civ get that a big bonus at this moment of the game it is the equivalent of 5 knights and 50 food left for free. 5 more knights early castle age is definitely game breaker, from that advantage frank whether win or buy enough time to transition into the late game which is one of the strongest and win that way.

  • @FlyingTurtleLP
    @FlyingTurtleLP5 жыл бұрын

    I like the song... what is the background music at the franks?

  • @michaelbalfour3170
    @michaelbalfour31704 жыл бұрын

    The houses bonus for the huns is great for trade carts!

  • @reubendias18
    @reubendias185 жыл бұрын

    3 of my favorite civilizations in the game are Franks, Mongols and Portuguese... Luckily one of them made the cut. Please make a top 5 navy video sometime soon ;(

  • @Bestsuk
    @Bestsuk5 жыл бұрын

    Frankish Paladins are crossing the river! Flee while there's time!!

  • @oldshotbotgg
    @oldshotbotgg5 жыл бұрын

    5:10 nice video editing. Haha Kudos!

  • @Rall707
    @Rall7075 жыл бұрын

    I like that this video also gives good insight into the online meta game.

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