Oh the number of hours I played Ys I & II on my TurboDuo. I'd finish the game and start all over. And the BGM hooked me so much that I bought the released import CD.

@VBshredder

6 жыл бұрын

Boss music and cutscene between 1& 2 where the character is shooting like a comet are probably best all time video game music!

There was a racing rpg I remember playing on regular TG16 when I was very young that was pretty awesome.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

Final Lap Twin. Great game. Great music. The graphics definitely could use tweaking as the TG is capable of so much more. Probably could've been really close or just as good, maybe better than the arcade game. I'd need to compare the two side by side based off what we now know the Turbo is capable of. It'd be nice if someone did a hack of that game. Or, if their ends up being a TG Mini 2, have M2 do a near arcade version that you can unlock, like they did with several games on the first Mini. Also, World Court Tennis had an RPG made as well, but I don't feel it's quite as good. I think music during the battles would've helped, but in general I'm not great at Tennus games. Final Lap Twin, on the other hand, I was able to beat.

One of my favourite consoles I’m still playing today

@sonnykane4595

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome dude I should never sold mine that was when I was a kid now I think of it I regret it so bad it kinda hard to find now

@StayGold33

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonnykane4595 I have the Turbografx 16 Mini and I absolutely love it, one of my favorite consoles.

@HollowRick

Жыл бұрын

Same

That is NOT the TurboGrafx CD / PC Engine CD version of Snatcher, thats the Sega CD version. There is no english version on the TG16/PCE CD. Have you even played any of these?

@franciscooteiza

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry for burst your bubble, search for Snatcher CD-ROMantic and you would see you are wrong.

@ner0p

3 жыл бұрын

@@franciscooteiza Sorry to double burst your bubble, there is no Japanese version of Snatcher for PCE (officially or otherwise), even the video you mention is a playthrough of the only available version for PCE: Japanese

@codekhalil6437

Ай бұрын

@@ner0p Sorry to triple burst your bubble. But I - I...okay, I got nothing. I'll see myself to the door 😆🤷‍♂

@joshfacio9379

Ай бұрын

Just so anyone doesnt kno theres no mega cd (japan) of snatcher, it was only released in the usa and eu for that system. There is a pcengine cd version released but it never left japan and isnt in english.

Cool another top 10 gaming vids channel , my fav kind of videos

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Sub I also love Top 10 videos.

It's amazing how much of a little powerhouse this system was. The RAM expansion in the CD add-on REALLY opened up the potential of the graphics chip inside this thing. With the RAM expansion it is definitely the most graphically impressive system of the main three 16-Bit systems of the time. The graphical difference between the HuCard games & the Super CD games is pretty big. Some of them look like 32-Bit titles!

@jackjenns1669

5 жыл бұрын

Alls I saw were tiny sprites lots of flicker and little detail. Besides Rondo this was not much of an upgrade. The Sega CD is a vastly superior add on to a more capable base system. Pce is fun to play but your description is delusional.

@CubamusPrime

5 жыл бұрын

Nope sorry. The Snes blew any game away in the graphic department.

@Poppin_Wabbits

3 жыл бұрын

As a kid, I had the TG16 when it hit America. As an adult I currently game on a Super Grafx with a super sd system 3. I have a duo, a turbo express with an everdrive, 3 pc engine interface briefcases... yes 3 of them. I know I am an NEC fanatic. Not to be confused with a "fanboy" I can honestly say, with all due respect, you are smoking crack if you really believe it was "the most graphically impressive system of the main three 16-Bit systems of the time" graphical superiority goes to the snes if you are talking main consoles alone. If you throw the cd rom into the mix, superiority goes to sega you don't need a spec sheet to see this is obvious If you did read the hardware specs you would know there is no comparison P.S. the NEO GEO hardware was also 16bit I bet you think it's 24bit

@skins4thewin

3 жыл бұрын

@@Poppin_Wabbits Meh, am not a fan o the Super sd system 3 imo. Am waiting on another solution such as the Analogue Duo or a solution from Krikzz aka the Everdrive maker.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

Over the years, working with programmers, I've come to accept that all three of the main so-called 16-bit systems, are equal. They have their strengths and they have their weaknesses. If you put the mega CD into the batch, that system is capable of a lot more than any of the main three. However, rarely did anyone, if ever, truly use the power that was available on the mega CD. The mega CD could be likened to the extra chips put in some SNES games. It pushed the system literally beyond its limits. The Turbo had no such advantage, which is why I don't bother comparing the TG to the Sega CD, or any enhanced SNES game, unless there's a clear indication of someone clearly not taking advantage of said extra chips or Sega CD. The TGCD literally only added 1 ADPCM channel and and a cheaper way of having more memory. A good example of how a TG game can look over a Genesis game is the demo of Bonk's Adventure on the genesis. Amazingly, it just doesn't look as good. The lack of colors I think seems to be the main thing that holds back the Genesis version. And of course the NES version doesn't compare to the turbo version, and that's considering that I don't consider the original Bonk's Adventure to be any kind of graphical monster. It's fairly basic for the most part in my opinion. Also, it takes me off at it at least in the early days there was a tendency to treat the PC engine like a souped-up famicom. Games that took more advantage of the basic power of the TG are Private Eye Dol, Sapphire, the Legend of Xanadu series, Street Fighter 2(and that's not considering the hack that makes the graphics look even better), the Neo Geo games, Tokimeki Memorial(compared to the SNES version, I don't think that version used extra chips though), Beyond Shadowgate, the Thunder series, Spriggan 1, Anearth Fantasy Stories, Gulliver Boy, Monster Maker, Sol Moonarge, Kabuki Ittuyordan, Snatcher(which should've looked better on Sega CD, although, there might still be a 64 color limit for the Sega CD). Actually, our unreleased Jungle Bros. game ain't half bad looking either.

The 2 last games finally use the full potential of the machine.TurboGrafx 16 always felt more like a 12 bits console to me.

@zackschilling4376

4 жыл бұрын

It has a 8-bit CPU and a 16-bit graphic processor so yeah its technically 8 bit but those Neo Geno ports and Castlevania Chi no Rondo would beg to differ, be that with the help of the storage size of the CD-ROM, but still.

@doomie77

2 жыл бұрын

@@zackschilling4376 The main reason the SNK ports are so good is because they use the Arcade card which increases the system memory by 2MB!!

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Sapphire, Private Eye Dol, Legend of Xanadu 1 & 2, Anearth Fantasy Stories, Sol Moonarge, Monster Maker, Gulliver Boy, Fang of Arnam, Spriggan, both Cho Aniki's, Tokimeki Memorial, Kaze Kiri, Magical Chase, Air Zonk, Coryoon, both Thunder games, Snatcher, Kabuki Ittuyordan, and Street Fighter 2 all give great range for what the Turbo is actually capable of. Actually, there's even a hack for Street Fighter 2 that makes it look even better. Plus, there were 2 more finished Neo Geo games, World Heroes 1 and King of the Monsters 2 that remain unreleased. I used to talk to one of the 2 Leroy brothers at Working Designs, and he said they were fantastic looking and completely finished. According to him, World Heroes 1 didn't come out, because TTI started planning on a US release of the Arcade Card, as well as World Heroes 2, so they figured they wouldn't make enough money back to Warrant the production costs. On the other hand, King of the Monsters 2 was going to require the Arcade card. The way he put it to me was that, every several steps you take on the screen, would cause it to reload If released as a Super CD game, so they decided to make it an Arcade CD game because of the tremendous amount of detail and data involved. So in a twist of irony, that game didn't get released because the arcade card didn't get released! And from what I hear about Vic Ireland and his iron fist, it doesn't sound like any Working Designs games wiyh voice acting are ever going to get released or re-released ever. That's why there are no re-releases recently of any of their CD games. Whether it be Cosmic Fantasy 2, Exile, or Lunar. Although on the flip side, I don't know if any voices were used from wd's voice acting team for World Heroes or King of the Monsters 2, so maybe there's some slight chance that they'll actually get a release someday. From what I hear from industry insiders, it sounds like the Leroy brothers would have no problem giving the go ahead on releasing any of their games, but it's Vic Ireland that has a Stranglehold on the properties they released in the past.

@cristianramallo8042

Жыл бұрын

lords of thunder es increíble técnicamente

@darrendavenport3094

4 ай бұрын

There was no such thing as a 12 bit console lol

"Doesn't look like there's anything here." Nothing happens "Whaa!"

It's so strange to me how much better Rondo of Blood looks compared to every other PC Engine game people show off.

@lukecimino7715

7 жыл бұрын

True, but then again so is Yoshi's Island on the SNES Take a look at the Legend of Xanadu games and Gate/Lord of Thunder for some comparable stuff on CD. Air Zonk, Parasol Stars and Ninja Spirit are super impressive HuCards.

@DragonMasterSubo

7 жыл бұрын

I've never thought Yoshi's Island looked all that impressive. IMO it looks like just another SNES game (one that I really enjoy).

@dede9806

6 жыл бұрын

The first game ever KEITH COURAGE used the full 16 bits of the console. But yes, a lot of titles either put less time on graphics or used a smaller color palette.

@skins4thewin

4 жыл бұрын

@@dede9806 LOL what the hell are you even talking about? Games can't magically only use some of the bits lol. And Keith Courage is one of the worst looking games on the system, so what in the hell are you even talking about?

@skins4thewin

4 жыл бұрын

@@DragonMasterSubo Yeah I was about to say, why mention Yoshi's Island as a great looking SNES game? When I think of graphically impressive SNES games, that isn't one that comes to mind. Sure, it had some cool special effects, but even that was due to the helper chip within the cart. It wasn't that great looking to be honest. I found Donkey Kong Country to be far more impressive.

I love how in your preview pic you show a picture of the Arcade version of Strider. the PCE port is absolutely horrible. Was suppsoed to be a Supergrafx game and it just got shoehorned poorly on the PCE CD/ACD

@mrg5559

2 жыл бұрын

Graphically true to the original, and playing every bit as well as its arcade parent, Strider was a convincing argument for PC Engine owners to shell out for the CD add-on if they had not already done so. The Sega Genesis port apparently featured slightly higher resolution, but the PC Engine version was still rock-solid and had CD-based music to round out the package.

@mrg5559

2 жыл бұрын

Some extra little bonuses for the PC Engine: Every level has a cutscene with different art and voices than the arcade version, plus boss characters give short speeches, complete with portraits, before you fight them. However, the most significant addition is an entirely new level exclusive to the PC Engine.

@igorpoco2420

2 жыл бұрын

I can't understand why NEC didn't combine the SuperGrafx with the CD-ROM and try something better to compete with the Mega Drive / Super Nintendo outside of Japan as both had already been released (at least the CD-ROM) at the time of the TurboGrafx release. TurboGrafx should be based on SuperGrafx.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there's different theories of what happened to Strider in all those years. It is possible that it started as a SuperGrafx game but then got transferred to an Acade CD game. It definitely could have been done better, especially as an Arcade CD game or a SuperGrafx game. Whether it be the added BG Lair and colors of the SuperGrafx, or it be the tremendous amount of memory involved in the arcade card. It is slightly janky in the controls in my opinion, but I still love it. The music itself is fantastic even though it's missing a couple of tunes sadly. And I do think that some of the Parallax could have been pulled off if planned correctly. It's just a matter of programming and knowing when to use Sprites or dynamic tiles to fake parallax. At the very least, there's a lot of horizontal Parallax that could have been done, vertical Parallax on the other hand is more difficult. So at the very least some of the horizontal axis could have been done. I don't know if it would have looked maybe a little bit weird that way, but it's better than nothing. I think, when making the PC Engune Duo, they should have Incorporated the SuperGrafx architecture in there. I would have been nice, although I'm sure it would have been more expensive to do that. And that would have left regular PC Engine owners behind. Perhaps if there was a way back then to add the SGX architecture into the Arcade Card. That would be much easier and cheaper to do nowadays of course, I have no idea how it would have worked out back then though. From what I've heard, Hudson felt that they originally needed the SGX to compete with the upcoming SFC, but apparently still were doing well enough after the SFC was released. The PCE was apparently number one for several years up until the release of the SFC, then dropped to a fairly strong #2. I have to wonder if they could have competed better if the SGX was included in their Duo plans. And possibly could have extended the life of the already aging PC Engine. The PC engine itself came out 4 years before the SFC, though it's still competed extremely well, partly due to its strengths over its own weaknesses. I believe it was by 1991 that NEC, instead of trying to push the SGX, started working on the Iroman, which became the PC-FX. Which that became a total flop though, Hudson barely supported it and honestly hardly anyone supported it. And it was riddled mostly with digital comics and FMV games. I've never compared its specs to the 3DO or the Jaguar, let alone the PS1 or Saturn. I assume the PC-FX was weaker than the Jag and 3DO. Though I think it might have had much better chip for processing video, if I'm remembering right.

How did you not include the bonk shooter in Splatterhouse those two games are like down the games consoles sold. on

I would've added Double Dragon II the Revenge - at the very least to the Honorable Mentions - the Animated cutscenes were great

@zackschilling4376

4 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah great version, prob the best. For some reason I read that as Double Dungeon 2 The Revenge, so I googled it...

what ???!! Snatcher on PC engine in English ??? I don't think so.... With the Mega CD , YES, full English.... bot not on PCE !!

@sloppynyuszi

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Is there a patch?

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there's no patch, I can only hope someday somebody will make a patch. It's a little bit surprising that Konami didn't bother to localize it when bringing it over on the turbo Mini.

The CD version of Ys: but you are still walking around an eyesore green lawn throughout the game, and there is no voice acting.

so you have a video shot of pc engine of snatcher in english how is that possible or is it the sega cd version ?

@wizzgamer

6 жыл бұрын

Sega CD version so that it could be in English.

@jackjenns1669

5 жыл бұрын

@@wizzgamer not cool.

@Choom2077

5 жыл бұрын

@@jackjenns1669 This throws the entire video into invalid territory. Come on now.

@skins4thewin

4 жыл бұрын

@@wizzgamer LOL are you fucking KIDDING me?? You're literally showing a game that isn't even for the system? How on earth did you think this was ok??

Yep. I only need number one thank you..

Dont forget you need the Arcade card to run those Neo Geo ports - but for a technically 8-bit system they re amazing.

@sloppynyuszi

3 жыл бұрын

There are plenty of chips inside, the main processor is an 8bit chip, but all the graphics and other accelerator chips beef it up, and I think the graphic chip is 16bit. Its basically like having all the fx, DSP and other fancy cartridge chips being pre installed on the SNES if that makes sense. The thing had a bigger colour palette than a mega drive. Also of note the CD drive doesn't bring any processing power like the mega CD, so the only bonus is storage and sound

@doomie77

2 жыл бұрын

@@sloppynyuszi Dont forget, the arcade card increased the system memory by a whopping (at the time) 2MB! That helped a TON.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@doomie77 not as much as one would think, my understanding is that the extra 16 megabits was used differently than the standard 2 megabits of the super CD. It had something to do with you could only load a level with all its graphics and music with the available two megabits but not with the 18 full megabits. But somehow the extra 16 could add stuff throughout a level, but I'm not a programmer so I don't remember the exact details. Still, it is a great enhancement that I wish they had released earlier and pushed more. There's still two unreleased Neo Geo games that were finished that we're going to be published by working designs, with one of them being an arcade CD game(King of the Monsters 2) that apparently looked absolutely fantastic. It's hard to say if those games will ever appear though with there being an apparent problem with Vic Ireland having quite an iron fist over any WD properties, especially those with voice acting at least.

@doomie77

Жыл бұрын

@@ParanoiaDragon that's some great info. And KoM2 would be fantastic with a tap!

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@doomie77 Yup, but I've heard some not so great things about Vic Ireland so I kinda doubt those 2 Neo Geo games will ever see some kind of release, digitally or otherwise. It'd be nice if someone like Limited Run made a deal to physically release them, like what they're doing with the physical English release of Castlevania Rondo of Blood.

ese snatcher es de sega :)

Dungeon Explorer 2 reminds me of Festers Quest.

On the regular Console use to plAy ninja spirit love thAt game

The intro game music, is that from a Sonic game on the Sega genesis? if so, which game is it? It sounds familiar.

@wizzgamer

5 жыл бұрын

videogameboutique It’s a remix of Sonic 1s Labyrinth Zone Stage music on the Mega Drive/Genesis.

@videogameboutique2196

5 жыл бұрын

​@@wizzgamer So i was correct, it was a sonic game! Thank you for confirming. ^_^ Did you play these Turbo Grafx 16/PC Engine CD on native hardware to get the footage or emulation?

I recommend, emulation: Queijo shader preset to RetroArch. Graphic filters with CRT effects. Greetings.

What's the music in the intro, I know I know it from back un the day but can't remember...

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

It's Sonic 1 Labyrinth Zone stage music.

You put fucking Lords of Thunder above Ys Book I & II? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?! And Rondo of Blood definitely deserves one of the top spots, but, again, sorry, it doesn't come even _close_ to Ys Book I & II, particularly in regards to the Godly soundtrack, incredible story and cutscenes. There is simply no comparison. Also where is Ys IV? I'd also have put Snatcher above Rondo of Blood. Snatcher is quite something. There's also Tengai Makyou and Legend of Xanadu II... So many gems not even mentioned in this video. :( Sorry, I see your passion for PCE throughouyt the video, but I deeply disagree with the title: "Top 10". The PC Engine is a treasure trove that goes deeper than just that...

Gain Ground SX!

Mir ist neu das es eine englische Version von Snatcher für die TurboGrafx gab. Ich dachte die würde es nur fürs Mega Cd geben??

Did you burn it as ISO only, ISO w cue, or BIN/cue, or something else? Im thinking of trying it for the few 300$ plus games I cant buy, but dont want to make 400 dead CDs lol. Thanks in advance buddy.

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

I don't own this system as it didn't get released outside the U.S and Japan however most games are burnt using iso w cue.

@zdp-189

7 жыл бұрын

I just trried Sylphia, FACEBALL, It Came From the Desert, and Star Parodier all with success. Using magic Iso either Bin OR ISO files worked, but I had to drag ONLY the cue file into MagicISO and it burned it to Memorex CD-R flawlessly at 16X. For anyone else wondering, try this way, it worked in my PC Engine Duo no problem.

@msk33

6 жыл бұрын

wizzgamer It was released to France by a company called Sodipeng.

@matthewjohnson1891

6 ай бұрын

​@@zdp-189thanks, ill try this!

2:40 #7 Snatcher Makes no sense to include this in the list in English because it only exists for PCEngine in Japanese. The way it is presented is as if there was an English version on that platform, of course anyone who has the platform or knows Snatcher is aware of this, to other people it's just purpusefully misleading.

awww vasteel never mentioned

Il me semblait que seule la version mega cd de snatcher était en anglais ??

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

That is correct, unfortunately the TurboGrafx-CD version never got a release outside japan. Even the recent Turbo Mini, Konami didn't even bother to try to transport as much of the assets of the localization of English into the TurboGrafx-CD version. That would have been a great bonus, especially seeing as how I've never actually played even the Sega CD version.

Funny thing is the Bonk's Adventure for the Turbo CD actually had worse graphics than the Hu-Card version, as it lacked some of the animations and parallax scrolling that the HuCard version had. Very strange indeed.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

I've never noticed any lack of Animation in the CD version. That's a game I've played many many times and of course there's very little Parallax at all in that game. It was just a little bit from the Moon and maybe one level that had King Drool's castle in the background. I guess I'll have to fire it up and see what's missing.

@skins4thewin

Жыл бұрын

@@ParanoiaDragon There is info online that details what's missing. Has something to do w the way the CD version accesses memory or something.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@skins4thewin I guess I wouldn't be 100% surprised. There was missing animation in the CD Bonk 3. I don't know if it was a lack of memory somehow due to it being super CD or if there was some other issue. If someone would have the time and take the time to look into the code, they could probably figure out what went wrong and figure out a way to enhance it. Bonk 3 definitely didn't take advantage of the Turbo for cartridge or CD. It should have been a technical jump above the second game, but it really isn't. The only thing that is kind of neat about it is being able to have two giant Bonks walking around on screen with no flicker or slow down. It was however done by a completely different Dev team than the first two games, although the name of that team escapes me. And it's that same team that did Super Bonk which explains why that game, at least in my opinion, is kind of dull. It didn't push the SNES at all. If I'm remembering right however, Super Bonk 2 was also done by that same team and I feel like they did a much better job in general though I never did like the fact that you had to respawn at checkpoints in it when you die. I have plans for all of the non-Turbo Bonk games to be ported and enhanced, but I haven't worked on the planning or the music in several years and there hasn't been any coders that have stepped up to the challenge. One coder I've talked to has basically expressed some interest but he just doesn't have the time to work on full games anymore. I had one Sprite and tile artist reworking the graphics and they looked pretty nice, though I think it was only for the very first level. I don't think I remember anything graphically beyond that. One of the things we focused on was improving the colors. There was no saturation in Super Bonk. There might have been technically more colors, but the choices were too dark for a Bonk game. Actually, some of my music for Super Bonk which I was calling Bonk to the Future is on SoundCloud under the name Paranoia Dragon if you want to have a listen. I made it sound more like true Bonk music, from the first two games, although, in enhanced because it was going to be Redbook audio for the game. Back to the missing animation now, I guess I just didn't play the CD versions enough to notice, since I had already played through the first two games a million times on the carts before the Gate of Thunder CD came out.

Tu devrais aligner tes sons. D'un jeu à l'autre, soit on entend rien soit c'est trop fort.

@wizzgamer

6 жыл бұрын

Merci de vos commentaires. Je vais essayer de résoudre ce problème dans les futures vidéos. Merci d'avoir regardé :)

@myleneohara6623

6 жыл бұрын

De rien ;-) Ps : ceux qui ne font rien ne commettent qu'une seule erreur. Celle de ne rien faire ! Je vais tester la PC engine CD. Mieux que la version Hucard ?

@jackjenns1669

5 жыл бұрын

@@myleneohara6623 mmm

R-Type...best shmup...no. Thunder Force IV wipes the floor with it. Strider for the PCE Super CD ROM pales in comparison to the Genesis version; However, the rest are amazing games!

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

While Strider looks like it could've been a Super CD game, sadly, it was an Arcade CD game, which should've, in theory gave it more of an edge, due to the tremendous amount of megabits it could process. Although my understanding is the extra 16 megabits of the arcade card work differently than the 2 megabits of the super CD. I think it's something like, the two megabits can load a basic level, but the 16 megabits can add extra detail within a level somehow. It's something like that. Like I say it's a shame, because this game certainly could have been a lot better being that it was an arcade CD game. For all I know it could have been better even if it was only a super CD game. I get the feeling it was a super CD game before being transferred to the arcade CD but they didn't really try to take advantage of it.

@Sinn0100

Жыл бұрын

@@ParanoiaDragon I didn't know that but wouldn't it still be limited by how much RAM and GPU the PC Engine was capable of putting out? Does the Arcade Card or Super Card add anything substantial to the mix? Was it comparable to the Sega CD? That thing in 1992 was a powerhouse of wasted potential.

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@Sinn0100 Nope, the system cards, 1.0(I'm assuming there was a 1.0, in the US, we started with I believe 2.1), 2.0, 3.0 or what essentially is 4.0(Arcade) didn't really add anything extra. The only advantage that CD games got besides the obvious of Redbook audio, was one ADPCM channel for sampled sound effects and speech, and a much cheaper way of making a large game on a disc instead of having to rely on a multitude of chips which gets very expensive. Obviously it would have been nice if the arcade card perhaps included some sort of chips that could strengthen the TG to have the enhancements of the SuperGrafx, but I have no idea how much cost that would have involved. If it were done now, I know it would be a lot cheaper. But back then, I'm sure it was quite expensive. Yeah the Sega CD was very very very underused. While i don't know as much about the Sega CD, I do enjoy games on it and I recognize that the Sega CD just never did what it was actually capable of. Perhaps there's one or two games that pushed the Sega CD, but maybe the only way to tell, would be if, let's say Lunar was on the TGCD, it could be compared to the Sega CD version. And if the Sega CD version was significantly better, then obviously they were to some degree pushing the system rather than doing just basic programming. There were a few games that were cross-platform, but I don't feel like any of them really showed a significant difference and I want to say a few of them actually looked better on the TGCD despite the fact that the Sega CD is capable of so much more. I believe Burai on the Sega CD looked slightly better than the Turbo version, but nowhere near the gap I would imagine with the specs that the Sega CD has. The TG, at least in the early days was in the same situation. Alot of devs tended to not push the system, they treated it more like a souped-up Famicom unfortunately. My guess is the tendency for the Sega CD to be treated like a souped-up Genesis, but we all know it was significantly more powerful than that. I would definitely say it was significantly more powerful than the base Genesis, the SNES, and the TG. I could be wrong, but I believe the Sega CD was actually capable of enhancing cartridge games on a Genesis, although I don't know if that ability was ever actually used. I'd have to look it up to see if that's true though. Also, I don't really know how to compare the Sega CD to any enhancement chips on the SNES. I mainly know about the Turbo because of being part of The Homebrew scene and talking to coders about what can and can't be done on the Turbo. If only more home Brewers would get involved, more games for the Turbo would be made including arcade ports that I would personally like to see. And I've found out that parallax, while not native to the TG, is easier than people make it out to be. It really has more to do with planning a game around faking the parallax, but even then, there are a lot of tricks that can be done. There's one coder in particular that I've worked with that has been able to do some incredible things. However, he only really works on demos and anything to do with helping The Homebrew scene in a very general sense rather than actually making new games. Since like a lot of us, he just doesn't have the time to work on a full game. That's the main thing that broke up my Dev group, Frozen Utopia, real life got in the way and we ended up with several games that we never finished as we were continuing to learn how to push the Turbo. I do have several of my own projects I've been planning, but right now there's just no coders that want to take them on. So I'm stuck with having soundtracks to games that may never be made. The best example is Jungle Brothers which you can look up on KZread, especially the 5th and 6th MGC demo of it. We were starting to learn more about how much we could do with the Turbo, but we still had a ways to go at the time. We stopped working on that back in 2016, and since then many more tricks to push the system have been found but not used by the scene, at least not yet. And unfortunately, the one game we did release, Mysterious Song, didn't push the system. Part of it having to do with us relying to some degree on using Hu C, instead of assembly. Actually, that almost makes me wonder if it's possible that most coders on the Sega CD were trying to take the easy route by using C instead of assembly?? My understanding is, assembly is a million times more efficient when you can generally just do a lot more with it, but I believe it's more time consuming and also complicated compared to just C. So yeah, I do speculate a little bit that maybe that's one of the reasons why Sega CD didn't get pushed. I don't know if the fact that the Mega Drive wasn't very popular in Japan had any bearing on it but I suppose that's also possible. Maybe if they concentrated on the fact that it was at least maybe a little more popular in the West they would have put more effort into it? Even then I don't know how well the Sega CD did in North America or Europe or Brazil. While I get the feeling it didn't do very well, partially based on the fact that I didn't know anybody that had one, I'm sure it did better in the west than it did in the east based on everything I've seen.

where is that music from that you play in between? i know i heard it before

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

Remix of Sonic 1 Labyrinth Zone.

@craiganderson7085

7 жыл бұрын

Thankyou for this great nostalgic list. Also it was cool that you named some CD games that are'nt just usually on most peoples lists. As an Neo-Geo fan the arcade card really did a great job of bringing SNK fighters to the Super CD. Thanks again

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

Your welcome thanks for watching:)

@skins4thewin

4 жыл бұрын

Sonic man, Sonic.

Gate of thunder?

English Language version of Snatcher on PCE-CD?

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

There isn't an English language version but put the English translation in for my English viewers.

@HamsoloPlays

7 жыл бұрын

wizzgamer that's what I was saying I didn't realise they ever translated the PCE version to English?

@LevelUp_ErikJ

7 жыл бұрын

wizzgamer that's the sega cd version

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

NovaTheMighty Indeed it is.

@skins4thewin

6 жыл бұрын

Yea, am pretty sure there is no english dub of the PCE-CD version of this game. Not sure why this is here. Oh well.

Bong is omi

Its ≠ It's

I took a hot shower and I feel hungry now.

Strider is so annoying with the attack sound and the 2 frame blade animation

No Spriggan? Pretty terrible selection if you ask me. Strider is quiet awful, Bonk 3 on the CD does not add anything more than the cd music compare to the Hu-Card, which is pointless and Prince of Persia is an ok port but this machine offers much better. There is so much better than these game: Spriggan, Spriggan II, Sylpha, Star Parodia, Ys IV, Legend of Xanadu, Tengaimakyou II Manjimaru, Emerald Dragon, Magicoal, Gradius II, Nexzr, Forgotten World, Rayxamber III, Burai 2, Fajias, Gulliver Boy... Even Download II, Mystic Formula, Pop'n Magic, Macross 2036, L-Dis and CD-Denjin are better game than some of your selection. Agreed with some of your choice thought (Wing of thunders, Snatcher, Dracula X, Ys I and II).

@ScubaDiverPicker

5 жыл бұрын

Cotton, Lords of Thunder, Soldier Blade, New Adventure Island. All great!!!

@ParanoiaDragon

Жыл бұрын

Private Eye Dol, Legend of Xanadu 2, Tokimeki Memorial, Kaze Kiri, Kabuki Ittuyordan, the 3 Neo Geo games, Beyond Shadowgate, among others.

LOL, Strider at no. 5!!! Shouldn't have even ranked.

Id love to play snatcher...BUT I CANT SPEAK CHINESE!!!

Where is senki

LOL are you freaking KIDDING me?? That's quite literally the Sega CD version of the game you're showing here. It's not even a PC Engine CD title! It was a totally different port for the PC Engine and has never been translated to English, much less with English subtitles. What kind of bullshit is this? Wow.... Instant thumbs down!

Rondo of Blood isn't near the best, that must be your personal bias leaking through.

dungeon explorer 2 sux.. cheap Zelda rip off

@banwan-5093

7 күн бұрын

It's good game?

This list sucks

You've never played many of these games have you? PoP has the worst control in the history of video games. It's quite an adjustment and is on no one's top list, except for you....

@axebomber2108

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't have bad controls, it's just not the kind of game where you can expect to effortlessly jump over enemies and traps. You have to time everything perfectly and not waste movement because it's a more realistic take on platforming.

Strider is horrible on PC Engine!

I want to love the PC Engine CD but Dungeon Explorer is pretty weak. Take.away those synth tunes and the game isn't as interesting as Dragon Crystal on the Game Gear. Prince of Persia? That DOS game with the horrible controls? Weak. A port of Bonk's adventure with barely improved audio? It's a great game but it already exists without a $400 add on. Snatcher is way better on the Sega CD. Fatal Fury was always just okay with its boring character designs and generic presentation. How do you play it with two buttons btw? Does it require a special controller? Strider just sucks on the Turbo CD. It may be closer to the arcade but the Genesis port looks better, sounds better, and most importantly plays better. R-Type suffers from the same problem as Bonk....there is already a sufficiently great version on the regular system without the need for a $400 add on. Ys never did it for me....that horrible game play mechanic of literally just bumping into things over and over for hours (because it requires so much grinding). And the soundtrack isn't even THAT great when compared to Final Fantasy or Phantasy Star. Lords of Thunder is overrated....take away the silly poorly aged head banger music and its just another generic shooter with style over substance gameplay......and then it has Castlevania X. One of the best games of all time. Beyond the one game there is no reason for this thing. It might be worse than the 32X and its definitely far worse than the Sega CD.

@wizzgamer

7 жыл бұрын

I agree this is crap 💩 compared to the Sega CD which is a add-on I love and have done a Top 10 video on. Although Snatcher for the Turbo CD would be the superior version if not for it being Japanese only as the Sega version had quite a few parts censored and less colours on screen.

@metalgear7777

7 жыл бұрын

Jon Sorenson Lol, go watch a few Pc Engine vids from 8Bit1000 to get a broader view of the Pc Engine. Pc Engine is one of those systems like the Genesis where you have to delve a few lairs deep into it's library before encountering a multitude of gems. These here are those surface titles everybody knows about, like Altered Beast, Sonic and Golden Axe. That being said the 2 I'd pull out of here is Gates of Thunder, Castlavenia and also R-Type Complete is no joke either....pretty spot on port. As far as Fatal Fury that's purely a personal opinion, everyone knows that Aes is the way to go when it comes to Neo Geo and once you step into Fatal Fury Special onward the series has some top gems one of which still remains one of the top 2D fighters of sll time, Garou Mark of the Wolves. Pc Engine itself is loaded with collector material on Cd.

@Mittens_Explains_It_All

7 жыл бұрын

I recant my statement to a degree! I've looked deeper and it's not as bad as I thought but I stand by my contention that the add on itself, when taken as a $400 Turbo grafx add on, was just terrible and that the sega CD (also terrible) wasn't quite as bad. This is especially true when considering the fact that the vast majority of PC Engine CD games are Japanese and weren't released or translated outside of there. I really like the Gate of Thunder game, which I shouldn't have omitted, and I really really like Travel Epuru which no one ever talks about (it's not great but I love it). But when it comes to collecting, aren't there entirely different considerations from whether or not the system or game library are any good? Collectors want a complete library. If the complete library includes shitty or mediocre games then who cares?

@metalgear7777

7 жыл бұрын

Jon Sorenson I agree the U.S Cd attachement at the time definitely could've used the aid of it's Jp much more complete counterpart especially when considering the $400 I overlooked. As far as collectability goes (like with most best libraries out there like Sega Saturn's, Snes, Sharp68000 and even others despite the fair amount of lackluster titles like Nes and SMS...SMS being *highly* underrated with many top end more complete ports) the gems far outweigh the crap titles in sheer collectable value, given the late ever rising prices most collectors opt to cherry pick their way through some of these libraries like with PCE because there's tons and tons of gems so no real reason to get into the least impressive titles unless going for particular sets, others libraries require you to get into those crap titles if you want a sizeable collection but that's far from the case with Pc Engine collecting, the problem with PCE is that it's mostly hardcore collectors know about those titles and they keep it hush when it comes to the mainstream audience because as a collector of higher expense libraries the main obejective is to beat the mainstream to the punch $$$$ so racing the clock to the finish line is usually the focus over popularizing the more hidden gems. You defintitely have a point with that 400$ attachement, pretty crazy tag considering the size and limit of available U.S Duo titles at the time, the region free aspect of the CdRom titles is a big plus for todays Pc Engine collectors.

@Mittens_Explains_It_All

7 жыл бұрын

Metal Gear777 I forgot to include Exile. That game had working designs for localization/translation and is probably the weirdest game I've ever seen.