Son of a...! I remember seeing copies of Color a Dinosaur at Wal-Mart in 1992. The price? Five freaking dollars. That's brand new, complete in box. Now it's hovering at four figures? Seriously?

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely! The market is CRAZY.

@albertruggiero1032

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely not. I know a guy selling a loose copy right now for $120. And on eBay, you can get the game loose for 120-175.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

@@albertruggiero1032 In that particular case, I was describing the cost of it CIB.

I use to own Dragon Fighter back in the 90s. It wasn’t my cup of tea that I sold it and it was so much lower than it is today.

@Fortefyre

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's really simple for what it is lol

Wow. I haven’t seen some of these prices before. I own several of these games and was shocked to hear what they’re worth. The cost of what I’ve seen seems to really undervalue what I have. Thanks for the info.

@Fortefyre

22 күн бұрын

You bet! Thanks for enjoying the video!

About decade ago, resellers hit every single yard sale and flea market. They were smart, and while that sucked for everyone else, it sucks even more now. If you go to a yard sale in the 2020's, moms/grandmas are just selling what their kids grew up with, which is like the wii and things past that point. It hurts every day..

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

It truly does. Greed 101.

Congrats on your 4k+ subs! Would love to see the repro cart video.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Duly noted! I'll make sure it gets done!

Bonk vs Zinedine Zidane, should be a game.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I would play it, I would so play it.

@jessragan6714

2 ай бұрын

I mean, the dude's name even sounds like a video game.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Zinedine's Mean Bonking Machine

Another great video! Fun fact: the majority of the games of this list worth playing can be reproduced with a copy of Hunt for Red October. I do own Stack Up, but strictly for nostalgic reasons - my dad got me the original Robot set which came with Gyromite and Duck Hunt, ROB, and the Zapper, but he also got me Stack Up and the mighty Kung Fu. You're right though, most of these games, although fun, are way overvalued. Honey, screw the mortgage, paying down debt, and saving for oour child's future...we need to do a wealth flex on the retrogaming socials!

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Quick, sell your moms china, we have Power Blade 2 listed on Ebay!

That would be awesome if you made that video about repro carts!

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I have that in the works :)

Thanks for the content. Look foward to your vids!

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!

I play most of my NES carts through my Retron 5. Newer home brew games and bootleg carts are unplayable on this console so I would love to see a video on how to spot an imposter. I do have an original NES, but the Retron is just so much easier to play on newer televisions.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

You bet! I'll get it going.

I’m just glad none of the ones I had when a kid that my mom gave away made this list

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Me too! That would be some INCREDIBLE hind-sight resentment haha.

@pharmcat8484

2 ай бұрын

My mom decided that all of our NES and SNES boxes and manuals were taking up too much room in her attic, so she threw them away years ago. This included Earthbound.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

My heart hurts lol.

Everytime I hear Zidane’s name, I immediately think of the family guy joke…nice video bro

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I was expecting Little Mermaid based on the thumbnail... Challenge of the Dragon reminds me of an old Atari game whose name I can't remember...

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I'm not as well versed in Atari 2600 as I am in later era stuff. I do have tons of Atari games, I just haven't gotten around to playing them.

Me and my buddy used to play bonks adventure on nes all the time as kids. If we could have only known!!

@TJR219

2 ай бұрын

And congrats on 4k!

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Right? Pokemon is heading the same way too!

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I’ve heard of most of these, but that Challenge of the Dragon game is one I’ve never heard about at all.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Wow! That's a first! I always look forward to your comments on the videos because you have your own stance or perspective on stuff!

4.15K subscribers. Looks like you made it. 🎉

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Every day we get a little bit bigger :)

As far as expensive games go I find little Sampson the most appealing. Action platformer that is generally liked. I'm not sure if I'll ever know but that's the thought 🧐

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

One day I'll own it lol.

Challenge of the dragon is absolutely NOWHERE near the price you said it was in your video. There’s multiple copies on eBay right now. Complete in box for $500 and another complete in box for like $377.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

And another for $1,100. It might be an outlier, but the big reason I have it on here, is because as an unlicensed title it is VERY rare to pop up.

I have 0 games from this list in my collection and it's def gonna stay that way...Power Blade 2 would be nice to have, though.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Power Blade 2, that's a solid one! I personally would like to own it.

Sunsoft and Taxan were standing in the crowd waiting to added a few kicks to the chest, fracturing your ribcage. These two companies made games that were aggravating hard. (Yet I found Fester's Quest easy to play...)

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Fester's was probably my favorite from everything I've played from Sunsoft to date, if we don't account for their take on Myst on the Saturn.

Please make a vid about how to spot repro carts

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Sweet! I'll add it to the list!

I started collection very early and own most of these games (nr 10, 9, 7, 5, 3, 1). Well and Stack Up but as a loose cart so it doesn't count. Some also with boxes and/or manuals. I still regret passing up on Power Blade 2's manual in 2009 which I found to be too expensive (but with hindsight was dirt cheap). The price development of Dragon Fighter surprises me the most. PS Sonic on Master System is not a oort and arguably a better game.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Nice! That's epic!

Wait! Someone else knows of Tiger Heli? My parents fot that game for me for a birthday gift. Loved playing that endless shooting game

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Yep lol. Proud owner of it haha.

A video on how to spot repo cartridges would be interesting. I stay away from ordering retro games online. Opting more to go in store or hope I come across some in the wild.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be too afraid of it, unless you know that a game should be expensive, right? In the case of repros, if I see a Little Samson for $25, then I know it is haha.

@DongCorleone

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre I'm just old school. I have to have the physical copy in my hands to make sure I am buying what I expect. But yeah too good to be true only works in yard sales with old people or estate sales. hahah

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I totally agree, plus it's nice to go to game stores, it's like taking a step into a time machine where life was easier to live!

@DongCorleone

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre I hear you man. It's like going back in time to the game counter at Family Toy Warehouse. If only I had the means back then to buy up their inventory when they were having going out of business sales. HUGE missed opportunity.

Truly impressive a mediocre dinosaur coloring game managed to get that expensive. Although it'd still be a better option than LJN Video Art. Yes, they actually made that one.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

"then my mom, she got smart, she got video art" LMAO I had that commercial in my opener for conquering companies while I was going through LJNs library on stream.

The repo/counterfeit argument is weird. I deal with it in Magic the Gathering cards. On one hand, its good for the general public to know what they're looking for to see if something is authentic. But on the other, it lets people who are counterfeiting the games know what to make sure they get right so their product tries to be as close to the real thing as possible. I'd like to the video for NES and SNES cartridges, but that's always in the back of my head.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I can see that, it's the same for cyber security tip videos, it sets the objective for what the bad guys need to do next. I personally don't mind repros in the game world, I just get irritated when people try to pass them off as the real deal. If someone puts in their ebay listing title that it's a repro, then yeah, rock-on, that's legit thanks for being honest, but unfortunately most of the time that isn't the case.

I completed my NES set in 2022 and had to go back and look up some of these prices. What were you using for a price guide? Some of the prices quoted seemed high(mostly color a dinosaur and Dragon Fighter). Were these CIB prices maybe? Or just for carts.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

So, I used a mixture of VGPrice, Pricecharting, and active Ebay listings, then for rarer titles that would be hard to find, I used ThePhleo's NES Rarity Guide.

Would love to see a video about repros

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Definitely!

Though Bonk is bonkers and real rad. Worth it for the heck of it!!

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I still kind of prefer the TG-16 version :P

@Tommi1981

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre Me too. Ofc :)

Nice Zidane reference. I wonder how many actually got it.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Marco Materazzi definitely got it lol.

Dang I sold a complete copy of Challenge of the Dragon for CHEAP years back (didn't know it had become so expensive; sold for cheaper than loose cart now. Did the same with some other non-licensed games but used that money to get arcade stuff that has gone CRAZY). Granted used that money to extend my Saturn PAL collection, that has also risen in value, but damn... Edit: finding a buyer for Color Dreams trash at current price though would've been a headache I imagine, and it's not something I would ever play realistically, so maybe for the best actually...

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Challenge of the Dragon was an outlier for the list tbh. I wanted to pop it in for how rare it is in the scope of modern collecting.

@SicketMog

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre Well those games ARE rare (espeically complete) but not due to not being crap thus fit your title "impractically expensive" perfectly because you should get paid to even play them. The controls of CotD alone... I spent 2.5 or 5 USD (can't remember if it was half price) on MoHo for the Dreamcast years back. That's a rare and expensive game these days... That doesn't matter as much to me as the fact that I played it for 20 minutes or so before figuring out it sucked ASS and was a waste of my money (at the time; didn't know it was rare title).😛 Also figured out from a different KZread video I own a super rare Mighty Max LCD game from the 90s (only a single picture of a different one available online and basically no info). Asking price for its more common version = crazy (like over $1000). Either worth playing in 2024? NOPE! It's a useless shelf item with, I would assume, next to no buyers interested. If possible WOULD like to find it, I have it in some box somewhere, and get it to someone knowledgable who could get it to emulate though for history's sake. This is the game discussion version of a tree falling in the woods with nobody around to hear it. 😛

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Hindsight can be a BITCH.

@SicketMog

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre Yeah. Got them for WAY cheaper though (despite selling cheap) and I got a Mushi PCB + Atomiswave SD for 6k SEK (less than the sale price of some of those games). That Mushi alone is likely worth minimum 5x that today so hey... Lose some but win some. 😛 Edit: oh and the PCBs are actually worth playing so that's a win in my book. CotD really is ass.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

@@SicketMog Dude, once I get my forever gameroom up and running, I'm 100% going to get a proper self-build arcade cabinet, might even buy some Jamma's if they are available for some Cave shooters.

man, what was up with Taito during the late NES era? did they forget how to market a game? no shit little samson was the final nail in the coffin for the short-lived Takeru lol also congrats on 4k :)

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate that. Taito was a fiend for anything that wasn't in the arcades it seems.

Pricecharting has challenge of the dragon at 150 bucks. Also you mentioned on your other video that donkey Kong jr. Math is 600. I have this game and it also is only 200 on pricecharting?

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Challenge of the Dragon was included because it is a rarity to find, the price is subjective because it's based on what people want you to pay them. VGPrice and Pricecharting go off of scrubbing known ebay sales, there are two active right now for $500 (loose) and $1,100 (CIB). A good example right now, is that VGPrice marks Little Samson as costing $829, which if you collect, you would know is an INSANELY lowball representation of the game. DK Jr math is $169.00 loose on PriceCharting, and $2,500ish for CIB, not considering a $12,000 new price.

@KeviRun

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre The logic you are using is flawed. Anyone can list the only copy of a game at a high price, but that does not mean that the game sells at that price. If this is a thought experiment as to what someone would have to pay to get the game *today* e.g. your loved ones are being held for ransom for this game, then sure. But if it's not a life-or-death circumstance, a person is going to network with other collectors, go to conventions, game stores looking for copies that are more closely priced to trend, and maybe even spending more than average for condition. Like you said, it is subjective. For every person who buys Power Blade 2 at $800, there is another person why buys Little Samson at $2500. Sometimes that person is the same person. Anyways, I look forward to your future videos, and hope this comment pleases the almighty algorithm to bump this video up for you.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

@@KeviRun That's a great opinion on the video, great feedback as well. It's hard to talk about a few things when it comes to covering the history of gaming, and price points are always up there unfortunately, because it can change literally any day. Supply and demand is BEYOND hard to predict, and in terms of "worth" it's tough to identify it. I do appreciate you taking the time to watch this video, and I hope you enjoy my future stuff!

Please do a video on how to spell counterfeit reproduction NES games everybody needs to know what to look for. This was a enjoyable video. Thank you.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I'll get working on it!

Only games I owned from this list were Panic Restaurant and Stack Up. Regrets on getting rid of one of those......

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

OOF. Well, life goes on.

so what if you wanted ROB plus both games? its what 1300 bucks?

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I would venture to say that. Most of the time, the best way to get ROB is to get it in box, and that's pricey. I don't even want to comprehend how difficult and tedious it would be to make sure that all the parts needed are there. I mean to be fair you don't NEED a ROB to play Gyromite, he's technically controlling a 2nd pad, so if you have a 2nd controller you can do everything you can, it's just now how the native game was meant to be played, and I assume the same for Stackup since the box configuration is on the screen. It would just be a very tedious tower of Hanoi lol.

I had Panic Restaurant...spent maybe $15 for it at a garage sale. Lent it to a friend who moved away...

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

OH NO. That's what happened to my Pokemon Red back in the day.

True story, when my wife left me in 2010, I sold some of my "Expensive" NES games to help pay the bills, I sold Little Samson on eBay for 50$ 😡

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

That's HEAVY

A CIB copy of Challenge of the Dragon sold for $325 shipped on March 7th 🤔

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Indeed it did. The reason why it's on this particular list is because it's exceptionally difficult to find.

@PlanetoftheTapes

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre 2nd on the list was pretty high, doubt it ever sells for more than Flintstones. Maybe a graded sealed copy?

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I put it up there solely because it's a rarer title, those unlicensed games don't manifest their head often. Graded and sealed, yikes, I don't even want to think of it.

@albertruggiero1032

2 ай бұрын

You may have put it up there cause it’s a rarer title but you said it goes for $1500. You’re off by more than $1000.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be so sure, with the ebbing and flowing of the market plus retail markups, we have to consider what people are going to try to get from the secondary market.

4.15K subs now

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Onward to 8K!

Some Prices are bogus, their made up by people who will pay a lot so other people will have too. Some will purchase every title of certains game's they can then sell them for outrageous prices, some actually buying the games from their own collection and publicly say they paid X amount of dollars for it to raise the price. There is many other ways they do this. It also done with almost all types of Collectables.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Oh absolutely 100%

I used to have snow bros 😭

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Oh no!

what about Whomp Em? last i looked that game was going for 500 bucks

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Whomp em has chilled out. With my collection style it's more along the lines of $80 loose.

@mattalan6618

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre granted that was like 4 years when i looked

this is why i fully support retro emulation

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely, nobody should have to break the bank for games that could be accessible.

This is download the rom and emulator to play games unless your going for a complete NES set. If that's true about color a dinosaur I'm surprised because I have a cart of that

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Hell yeah! Treasure it!

A walking testosterone magic machine with an eye for causing mischief 😂

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

:P

5:57 We play as Nova. I sincerely hope that they changed his name for Spanish speaking territories.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the classical protagonist "Not Going" LMAO

First! Also, thanks for the video 👍🏻

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Thank YOU!

Speaking only for me, I want no part of any expensive game collecting. Too many fakes out there, too many other ways to play these games. I’m only buying dirt cheap games these days. Not just because I’m cheap, but I suspect it’s not worth the bootleggers’ time to put out fake $8 Wii games.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

This is very true, it's not often common games get repro'd.

Reproduction video is a must these days

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

I'll do it :)

And this is why I emulate I have every single game for every retro console for free

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

As you should! It's much more accessible than having to invest in tons of stuff.

You may be judgmental over the anti-puberty message in the manual. I’m offended by the horrendous full-justification typeset.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

You mean you don't enjoy the 400 spaces between testosterone and magic lmao

These games aren't worth a red cent, what a farce.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

XD

As a devout Christian, I hate how much Christian video games suck and it's for the same reason that the whole DIE movement does. They focus so much on a message that they miss good content. A message, no matter how right it is, can't get out there if no one wants to hear it. C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien did it right and we still talk about their works today.

@michaelbarley7399

2 ай бұрын

Do you have any of the Wisdom Tree games? My personal favorite is probably Exodus. I love the puzzle challenge. The camel spitting in Three Kings is hilarious lol

@billcook4768

2 ай бұрын

To misquote Hank Hill, they aren’t making Christianity better, they are making video games worse.

@astralpx

2 ай бұрын

Good point

@joshuawidener8407

2 ай бұрын

It's really not possible to make a good Christian game lol

@Petfal

2 ай бұрын

I have a perverse dream about making Battle of Olympus based on different mythologies. Could also be actual religions. But yeah, christianity is rich enough for a lot of games, could be a franchise with different genres

I mean didn't you also say 200 dollars was practical for a Jetsons game? Lol these lists don't seem consistent

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Yes. 200 is practical lmao.

@joshuawidener8407

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre not for a mediocre game you won't really want to play more than once lol. 200 dollars can buy an entire console or several AAA games. There is nothing practical about it(especially since you can just rom it or make a reproduction cartridge for far less if you just want to play it) You could make an argument for reselling it but then that same argument would work for these games. So I don't see what's practical whatsoever lol

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

If you're seeking to complete a library, it's practical. If you want to just randomly have a game on the shelf with no intention of playing it, sure, it's not practical. For me (which is what this series is anyway, an editorial opinion) I find it to be practical.

@joshuawidener8407

2 ай бұрын

@@Fortefyre well then, there is no such thing as impractically expensive because you are filling out a library

not a fan of covering 80's games but you're very fun & informative to listen to. only thing is the thumbnails look very unenticing to want to click and personally hoping you'd cover a more variety of (retro, newer retro) games & studio.. 90's heyday SNK titles for instance, ps2,3, 3ds, gamecube.. 00's pc games etc.

@Fortefyre

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I'll 100% get to that era at some point, the 10 games series (which this belongs to) are based on games I play on Twitch.