Too Old To Start GameDev?

Is starting game dev later in life a problem? My thoughts.
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  • @garbski42
    @garbski422 жыл бұрын

    I started learning game programming at 64. Still at it and yeah, took longer because nobody believed I could do it and being called a "hobby developer". Keep at it - it doesn't matter how old you are!

  • @StarshipSimulator

    @StarshipSimulator

    2 жыл бұрын

    Much respect, I hope I am just as willing to embrace new things and start new adventures when I reach your age. Programming in particular is an excellent way to keep the brain active and agile later in life. Maybe not so much for the physical fitness... I spend far too many hours sitting :P

  • @BojanDam

    @BojanDam

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Pale Spyder Same here :) 47 and counting. :)

  • @sublemonal2

    @sublemonal2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @osseous42

    @osseous42

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 50 and started a year ago. Never too old to learn! :)

  • @lawdepotpresident9900

    @lawdepotpresident9900

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Pale Spyder I'm the same age. I'm moving to full time dev soon.

  • @glennet9613
    @glennet96132 жыл бұрын

    I’m 76 and started learning, Blender, Unreal Engine etc. about a year ago, I don’t want or need to earn money from it but I’m enjoying the journey. I learn something new and exciting every day. We are so lucky to have all these resources available to us, free of charge or a nominal cost, a community of true enthusiasts wanting to share their knowledge and enthusiasm.

  • @peterligneul9348

    @peterligneul9348

    Жыл бұрын

    Good Luck ! I admire you for that

  • @Bananenbauer123

    @Bananenbauer123

    Жыл бұрын

    your comment has really moved me Glen, greetings from Germany

  • @baked921

    @baked921

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s great. I’m 34 and I started learning at 30. I had played around a bit in my late 20s but I didn’t get serious until I hit 30. I’m happy just to be able to learn something new everyday and make things happen in front of me after I put hours in. It’s very rewarding to have a idea then to make it happen. I love that. I’m glad to see your enjoying the process

  • @TheNinjaDwarfBiker

    @TheNinjaDwarfBiker

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope at 76 I'm still going strong like you glen

  • @green8026

    @green8026

    Жыл бұрын

    that's awesome to hear!

  • @xaeyr
    @xaeyr2 жыл бұрын

    I've known I've wanted to be a game dev since I was 16 or so. I'm 51 now and just started getting into it about 4 years ago. Not sure what took me so long, but I'm happy to be here now :)

  • @AAKhanivore

    @AAKhanivore

    2 жыл бұрын

    OMG!!!!! Loved reading this. Wanted to be a game dev as long as I can remember. Just turned 50 :( Is starting on Unity 2D an ok start? How did you start?

  • @xaeyr

    @xaeyr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AAKhanivore I started with Unity when I finally returned to game dev and have used it every since. I really like it.

  • @MrLoodico

    @MrLoodico

    2 жыл бұрын

    On the same train here! I learned coding just to make games, after 25+years of software development I am learning again ! Unity2D too! ..51 y/old here.

  • @mrjoeart
    @mrjoeart2 жыл бұрын

    I started gamedev at 40 and jumping straight into my first dream project (beat em up) and until now I still cant finish my game BUT I DONT SEE MYSELF QUITING SPECIALY IF MY ONLY TEAM MATE THROUGHTOUT MY GAME DEV JOURNEY IS MY OWN DAUGHTER. She believes we can both achieve something someday on this :)

  • @Str8Ac3gAming

    @Str8Ac3gAming

    11 ай бұрын

    Are you still working on that game with your daughter?

  • @mrjoeart

    @mrjoeart

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Str8Ac3gAming yah we are still working on it, we are targeting to release our second clean demo with more content + trailer this december.

  • @alan112223

    @alan112223

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mrjoeartgood luck!

  • @bernardlemay8563
    @bernardlemay85632 жыл бұрын

    I'm 40, father of 4, engineer in a related field. I can't agree with you more. Game dev is just an old dream I'm trying to realize now, and it seems to be working in a way.

  • @alexallin8019

    @alexallin8019

    2 жыл бұрын

    Similar situation. About to turn 41 with 2 kids. Working as a software engineer in enterprise, but learning game dev in hopes of realizing that old childhood dream.

  • @stealthyshiroean
    @stealthyshiroean2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely needed to hear this. I'm 31 and only really started to try and learn programming (through Game Dev) this year. I have thought to myself how I wish I could've started this so much sooner in life and then maybe I'd be somewhere now. Feel like I spent my 20s just floating around at times. At least job/career-wise. But I suppose all of the things I've done before this have shaped who I am now and has created a better person because of it (at least I hope so haha). Once again, I really appreciate your grounded, down-to-earth mindset you have with game dev, programming, and life in general. Take it easy, John!

  • @alexpopowski1318

    @alexpopowski1318

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too!!!!

  • @stealthyshiroean

    @stealthyshiroean

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alexpopowski1318 Good luck to you, man!

  • @Simon-ik1kb

    @Simon-ik1kb

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was at your position 8 years ago. The only thing I can say NEVER... NEVER think that if you have ben started this earlier it would been better. You are living now and you are now at the right place, right time, right mindset. After 8 years I still learn things and have these moments like... oh man now I get it. I was using these tools, or coding all this time and just now at the age of 39 I get it, I finally understand this one thing I never fully understood. And when I think back... It was not possible for me to understand it earlier, also to start coding lets say at the age of 25. I was not ready, my brain was not ready... Also you are never too old. I started doing gamedev just this year. Published some small mobile games because Im a solo dev, so I stick to small projects. And I made my first money from it. Not much, but combined all my games like full one month salary of my full time job. So keep learning, keep pushing and have a clear goal in your mind! Also start small, very small, this will help to keep you motivated and I hope not feeling burned out.

  • @stealthyshiroean

    @stealthyshiroean

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Simon-ik1kb Thanks for sharing your story and words of encouragement, Simon! It really does help to see things clearer and to stay motivated!

  • @Ironlionm4n

    @Ironlionm4n

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exact same situation here!

  • @jeremynunns7496
    @jeremynunns74962 жыл бұрын

    This applies to me big time.. 34 yrs old and just started my journey. Age does bring some financial security and maturity. I think it also brings a certain amount of discipline as you say. I'm learning vua Udemy and other courses for programming; studying up on game design; already had an artistic flair. It's something that I enjoy and hope to continue doing until I'm old.

  • @larrypendleton8195
    @larrypendleton81952 жыл бұрын

    I'm 54 and still working on my games, learning, and most of all enjoying programming and Unity. I have come to realize no matter how old you are, if you get any satisfaction out of game development, set some attainable goals, be patient, and have fun.

  • @kristophsams5036
    @kristophsams50362 жыл бұрын

    I'm almost 40. Been at it for at least 12 years trying to figure out what kind of dev I want to be. I think I've finally figured it out and I haven't stopped yet. I don't care if I'm 60. I'll still do it. However, things would go faster if I had a team to delegate but that's just me.

  • @tun10011

    @tun10011

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m 40+ and am about to release the first game

  • @TheMeanArena

    @TheMeanArena

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your body will start not handling sitting in front of a computer for hours at a time.

  • @hhcdghjjgsdrt235

    @hhcdghjjgsdrt235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HouseTrapJay It was the covid lockdown when I started watching tutorials on youtube about gamedev.

  • @DextraVisual

    @DextraVisual

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 45 and produce 3d assets for games, historic sites, engineering and education. I make sure I go for a run every morning and lift weights in my office whilst waiting for items to render. I often stand at my desk which really mitigates the damage caused by sitting for 10+ hours everyday.

  • @kaiser3626

    @kaiser3626

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMeanArena I have more than 40 years and I can be seat in front of a computer more than 14 hours per day. All we have different bodies and physical conditions.

  • @MrZtapp
    @MrZtapp2 жыл бұрын

    I am 62 and started game dev approx 10 years ago and have sold +70K games and still ongoing. After a long exec. Mgm career in IT this is what I do at the moment. No problem at all and a great topic at dinners. I also write books (7 published), which also have been pretty successful.

  • @threeqs2424

    @threeqs2424

    Ай бұрын

    Super interesting. What do your old exec friends say? Do they think you are cool or crazy (and laugh behind your back). Interested as about to do the same move …

  • @MrZtapp

    @MrZtapp

    Ай бұрын

    @@threeqs2424 No the people I have contact with is kind gf neutral but impressed I would say. Especially someone my age.

  • @user-tf6ch1oj2m
    @user-tf6ch1oj2m2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 41 and all my life except for two last years I was a programmer in a commercial company. Game development is my hobby and it was very difficult to start to figure out how Unity works. I admire people who start from scratch after 40 and achieve something.

  • @StarshipSimulator
    @StarshipSimulator2 жыл бұрын

    I've been a gamer my whole life (I'm 43 now), and due to game development not being a career option back when I was at school, I went into a pretty generic IT career where I ended up managing maintenance activity on a global ISP network. It wasn't until I was made redundant about 6 years ago that I started exploring game development seriously. First as a hobby project, and then with a view to making something commercially viable. I do wish that I had realised sooner in life that this is what I should have been doing all along, but your point about growing maturity and wisdom certainly applies to my life as well. When I started game dev in my late 30's I was doing so with decades of life experience behind me, not to mention relevant experience in business management. I feel I am far more ready to make this a career today than I would have been say 15-20 years ago. This is what I was born to do, and I'm determined to keep on doing it for as long as I physically can!

  • @1M4N5H0W
    @1M4N5H0W2 жыл бұрын

    Wow! This is me to a tee. I'm turning 42 this month and started self teaching myself unity and game dev November 2021 while my son is busy studying game dev himself through a formal school. Love the channel. Keep it up!

  • @alexpopowski1318
    @alexpopowski13182 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I needed to hear. I am 31 in a month and I've struggled to find myself, passion, and a career I that love, but I have a new passion for wanting to make my own game. I feel determined. It's already a struggle but I won't give up and I appreciate the pep talk.

  • @frans-carelsteyn4529
    @frans-carelsteyn45292 жыл бұрын

    I am 47, thank you for the content, this is helping me on so many levels!

  • @karimloberg6876
    @karimloberg68762 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this is literally made for me. I am 31, spend all my 20s doing other things than career and education related things. Now i am at a point where i have started unity courses but i am already doubting myself so much because “i can never learn this”. So frustrating to have such a lack of belief in oneself but thanks for the video

  • @lawdepotpresident9900
    @lawdepotpresident99002 жыл бұрын

    I'm 46, still drink beer, will be a game dev for a living one day.

  • @amandaflood
    @amandaflood2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this! Though being female adds another layer - most gamers seem to be male, and I probably think differently. (Though I was obsessed with Elite in the 1980s when it was the only 3d game around 😊). I'm 50 and started coding in lockdown last summer, and am now making a Unity 2d game. Mainly I'm daunted by the market. There is so much great stuff out there and a really sophisticated audience. From where I'm standing it looks pretty tough! Your game looks GREAT btw.

  • @RiversJ

    @RiversJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's the standard demographic, doesn't mean you should think that's any kind of barrier. Never let what the norm is dictate what you as an individual do, most insidious blockers in life are those we build in our own heads not doing something because of doubts etc.

  • @Eldoro82
    @Eldoro822 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video and your insight, I'm 39 and i just now...finally made it into VFX / game development academy and I've been struggling with my age...thinking I might be to old to brush up on my drawing skills and learn unreal and modeling. But stubbornly I'm keeping on with as much enthusiasm as I can while juggling my family life.

  • @cobbsnocker
    @cobbsnocker2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 49 and this question keeps biting at me. I just discovered game dev recently and it won't let me go. Never occurred to me I might could learn how to do any aspect of it, but I can't seem to let the prospect go. Currently trying to learn how to use the tools (photoshop, blender, unity, visual studio, to name a few). Kind of lost, overall, but something won't let me quit. I guess we'll see if I've got what it takes.

  • @leonardbenzies7356
    @leonardbenzies73562 жыл бұрын

    I am 82 and have written 8 games in the last 7 years using Unity3d.

  • @gdj777
    @gdj7772 жыл бұрын

    I'm 45 learning 3DS and Unreal. My backgrcound is mostly accounting and a bit of IT. Ageism is a thing in All industries but you can find a spot for yourself if you are persistent. Design and Coding skills gives you the ability to start your own venture as well. Make sure you have a 'personal' reason for doing what you do. Not just money.

  • @solitaregames
    @solitaregames2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for all the help and tutorials you had done for all these years. It has been inspirational and educational.

  • @thirstsnake
    @thirstsnake2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this kind and affirming video! I went back to school for game art a couple years ago at 30. Sometimes the age thing gets me down but overall I am grateful I did as I feel I have more discipline and drive now. I'm working, going to school, and building my own horror game.

  • @Gardener_-dc7yq
    @Gardener_-dc7yq2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 62 and started Using Unity about two years ago, with a focus on VR to develop training tools for the aviation sector. Learning Unity, C# and VR definitely keeps the brain supple and active. This stuff is fun and challenging! Thank you to John at Lost Relic Games and other content developers who are willing to take considerable time to share their knowledge and experience. And thank you to Peggy Garberick, Glen Net and other commenters for providing some welcome inspiration!

  • @LostRelicGames

    @LostRelicGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    All the best to you mate!

  • @y01cu_yt
    @y01cu_yt2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your ideas.

  • @hourglass8450
    @hourglass84502 жыл бұрын

    Agree it's the best time to jump into game programming :) so many tutorials everywhere. Also agree that somethings just click later on in life as you grow in experience! I am a slow learner and definitely true for me in this area :)

  • @Jonathanlambert-art
    @Jonathanlambert-art2 жыл бұрын

    I was in my early 30s before I earned my first game dev job. I'm 38 and just celebrated 3 years at a wonderful AAA company!

  • @MisterBehavior
    @MisterBehavior2 жыл бұрын

    This is something I really needed to hear. Thank you for the question, Alex and thank you for the video, John!

  • @AriaRedux
    @AriaRedux2 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say, this advice and over-all perspective is solid gold. Really nice work covering the topic & sharing in such a positive manner. Many of my best regards.

  • @K5RTO
    @K5RTO2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. Means a lot.

  • @urmum85
    @urmum852 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy youtube recommended me your channel :) Blood and Mead looks dope, I signed for testing immediately.

  • @xoangelesxo8791
    @xoangelesxo87912 жыл бұрын

    This gives me hope. I'm older but still have the dream of creating my own game. I find that my biggest challenge is finding time to put butt in chair to learn the different game engines. I will get there, even if it takes a while, I will get there.

  • @JamesSarantidis

    @JamesSarantidis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here, bud. Don't give up the dream due to a stupid learning curve.

  • @olon1993
    @olon19932 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! Can't wait to get my hands on Blood and Mead!

  • @kimbaptempura4073
    @kimbaptempura40732 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It may seem like a little video, but everyone needs a little scrap of encouragement sometimes, this was very encouraging, thank you again.

  • @amineangliz1845
    @amineangliz18452 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video and advices

  • @sillyDave
    @sillyDave2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Keep up the good work! :D

  • @v02max75
    @v02max752 жыл бұрын

    You know how many people would probably say the exact opposite? I'm so happy that this is the message you're putting out there. And whether it's game design or skydiving, if you find your "thing", go for it!

  • @zekiozdemir420
    @zekiozdemir4202 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @russelllapua4904
    @russelllapua49042 жыл бұрын

    I'm 39 and just getting in to it. As others here, it's always been a passion I wanted to get in to. I'm currently in a Senior Management position in a tech company and i've learnt an insane amount of things from all areas of running a business. I'm in operations so it's my job to know all and be involved with day 1 starters to Directors and the board. I've recently learnt Python and JavaScript and understand the fundamentals of coding, so picking up c++ doesn't worry me. I'll be going in to using UE, and I feel myself as more of a game type and world builder. I don't think i'm that good at modelling and that, but maybe i'll surprise myself! So yea, it's never too old. I would say the longer you put it off, when you eventually do start you'll think to yourself why didn't I start this sooner.

  • @JimmyKadesch
    @JimmyKadesch2 жыл бұрын

    great video dude! I always appreciate your vids

  • @masterlewzilla2116
    @masterlewzilla21162 жыл бұрын

    great video! thank you so much

  • @rosk1
    @rosk110 ай бұрын

    I'm just starting out on my gamedev journey. I'm in my mid 40s , so its reassuring to see people much older than me giving it a go. Plus some wise words on having a more mature mindset.

  • @HCG-DA
    @HCG-DA2 жыл бұрын

    great words my friend

  • @harrykingsley7915
    @harrykingsley79152 жыл бұрын

    You're ready when you're ready. I sometimes find myself thinking "I wish I started game dev earlier" but instead of being negative about it, I realise that it's a positive thing and a sign that I'm on the right path.

  • @BlackStarForge
    @BlackStarForge2 жыл бұрын

    I have started just this year, and I am 34, while being in IT only for past 4 years. And I am no genius. But it needs a lot of dedication to learn so much, so fast. It helps that I was always leaning to being kinda "jack of all trades", and love to learn new skills. But still, there is so much for solo dev (for example never made YT videos before :D). Your channel is one of those I have been following the most. And you helped me to form realistic expectations and set proper work system. As some mentioned, being older might come with benefits - you had more time to learn how to learn, how to focus and do work efficiently, and financial reserve might allow you to go full time.

  • @tinyzockt7780
    @tinyzockt77802 жыл бұрын

    Thx for this Video. It inspired me so much. Cause i was thinking if i should start learning Game Dev with 30 or not. It is hard to geht started and keep going. But your words helped me to move on with learning and testing.

  • @xiaozhanli
    @xiaozhanli2 жыл бұрын

    Very true!

  • @thelasttellurian
    @thelasttellurian Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @gideongriebenow5815
    @gideongriebenow58152 жыл бұрын

    I started aged 40, although I had other programming experience. Almost 3 years in!

  • @rybotekk
    @rybotekk2 жыл бұрын

    Thankyou.

  • @deadbroadcastpc
    @deadbroadcastpc2 жыл бұрын

    So you’re saying I’m like a fine wine......appreciate these videos John, always a pleasure.

  • @CMA777
    @CMA7772 жыл бұрын

    Hi! Game dev here with 10 years experience. Just discovered your channel and felt compelled to offer up my perspective. We really need to draw a line between getting into game dev late as a HOBBY versus getting into it as a CAREER change or with the intent of launching a commercially successful indie project. I can understand why this channel is very encouraging of new blood to jump into the biz but the "ra-ra, you can do it!" vibes need to be heavily tempered with a large dose of reality. To get it out of the way: YES, I'll always support the sentiment that it's NEVER too late to start learning new things! Game dev is fascinating and involves so many different skill sets that an adult looking for a challenge will not need to look far once they begin exploring the ins and outs of making games. There's A LOT to learn, almost too much. Which bring us to the age thing & AlexG's question... As an adult in your 30s, you will undoubtedly bring more maturity and life experience to the table up front. And as adults, I really believe we need to discuss game dev as a career change with OPEN EYES. Game development is 150% a young man's game. If you are 30 or older, know that the uphill battle is real because while you can bring more maturity to the table, your younger counterparts bring a bottomless well of energy and the ability to learn things much more quickly. As an older adult, your window for growth and for failure is also smaller and I really want to stress the importance of this if you are planning to make and sell your own indie game. As an oldster, you have a very finite number of "tries" to get it right and your punishment for failure will be much more severe. This is simply a law of nature. To make your own commercial game, you will need to set up a 4 to 5-year runway for yourself, minimum! This is 4 years of savings to ensure your family can eat and has a place to live while you toil away on your game. Proper food btw: your family is not to subsist on ramen noodles for years at a time! Note that this time doesn't include learning time. Yes, you'll be continuously learning throughout the process but once you commit to working on an indie game for commercial release, all of your attention & effort should be laser focused on the development of your game and only that. Most of the heavy lifting in terms of learning the basics must already be done. You need funding. How will you shore up the holes in your skill set and your project? Unless you plan on exploiting the labor of new grads, students or hobbyists, you'll likely need to pay for the services of at least one other person. Multi-talented Renaissance people exist, yes, but know that any aspect of your game that you DIY will translate to that much more development time. Beyond the aspect of crafting your game you'll also need to learn marketing, social media, data science and a host of other business-related skills. The general game consumer may not realize that the large majority of successful indies had already spent years of their life plying their trade as employees at major game studios. Or they have already published a few indie titles and so already have the years of trial & error under their belt. This gives them an immense advantage as they've already walked the walk and have established good workflows with their craft and networks within the industry. You have to ask yourself what you can realistically bring to the table and how much time and how much sacrifice you are willing to make as a "zero experience" developer in order to make it. What does "making it" even mean? Yet another massive onion to unravel... This question really does require MULTIPLE 8-min videos to properly answer! The decision to go pro as a game dev should be taken as seriously as if you were considering starting any other type of business from scratch. Anything less is a disservice to your audience.

  • @kegsfx8603
    @kegsfx8603 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Deep and relatable!

  • @interstellar1798
    @interstellar17982 жыл бұрын

    ❤️ I'm motivated again

  • @TFx2TV
    @TFx2TV2 жыл бұрын

    100% agree with this, keep up the good work and keep inspiring others to inspire themselves

  • @maranr
    @maranr2 жыл бұрын

    Well, I'm 60 and have always loved video games. I would love to do more game dev. Taken a few courses, fooled around with GameMaker, Godot, and Unity (a bit). Programming is always a big hurdle for me but I want to keep with it. When I retire, I will definitely make it a hobby.

  • @Kukonzu1

    @Kukonzu1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 64, taught myself construct 3 over past 4 yrs. Just downloaded Unity 2 weeks ago and going to learn C#. Never too old to take on a new venture.

  • @maranr

    @maranr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kukonzu1 Maybe we can collaborate on some Geriatric games like "Name that Pain" or "Where did I put my keys?" ;-)

  • @marcusfromoz7066

    @marcusfromoz7066

    2 жыл бұрын

    Started Game Dev at 56. Have done 14 certifications through Udemy in the last 2 years. Have only just begun :)

  • @threeqs2424

    @threeqs2424

    Ай бұрын

    @@marcusfromoz7066two years ago…you still in the game?

  • @marcusfromoz7066

    @marcusfromoz7066

    Ай бұрын

    @@threeqs2424 I had a break for about 9 months, but doing a game jam starting tomorrow, to see if I still want to do it

  • @sukapow
    @sukapowАй бұрын

    I think, people should watch the Bethesda Oblivion document video bc it had old old people working on that game so it's gives you a good excuse to start game development whatever age

  • @GrahamOfLegend
    @GrahamOfLegend2 жыл бұрын

    This is a great question Alex G! But yeah, you can definitely start game dev later in life!! I just went to full time at 31 and I think it's gonna be a great time!

  • @darksteelyurius
    @darksteelyurius2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 36 and somewhat new in the industry. I have been working on a project on my own for 2 years and this video was a glass of water to me. Googled stuff quite a bit and every bit I see is NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE! Seriously, I read a forum from an experienced "game dev" that was more or less telling you to NOT become a developer because you are just going to fail. Good video. Subscribed

  • @ousama248
    @ousama2482 жыл бұрын

    I totally relate to this , i've started gamedev on 2020 , and i'm 31 now , i can clearly see the difference between wht i'm doing and wht some younger people are trying to do , there's so many in it just for money , no passion , they're just trying to bypass the hard work like u've said

  • @studioprimitive
    @studioprimitive2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting perspective. I'm 38, and just started game dev about 18 months ago. I feel like I'm grasping concepts well, especially when it comes to valuing the marketing and business side of things that ends up ruining so many projects. I hope it pans out well for me.

  • @mertbaskoy4173
    @mertbaskoy41732 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently 25 (I know I'm probably younger than most people here) and I wanted to make games 6 years ago, I did some programming here and there and made unfinished and very small things (like a jumping character, pong, breakout which is also unfinished) but I never finished a single game, even a very small one. I wasn't very disciplined either and I was lazy wasting my time playing video games for the most time. Not going to lie I feel very regretful about it so I decided to come back to it and commit myself working on stuff everyday. I can't say this video gave me a huge relief but it's nice to see other people starting late like myself.

  • @JeffLuntGames
    @JeffLuntGames2 жыл бұрын

    Big +1 for the hard work part. The willingness to start something ambitious and not give up, because of developing a kind of mental toughness in older ages -- it's a huge plus.

  • @Skeffles
    @Skeffles2 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video! I can definitely see older devs tend to have more discipline than younger ones but often less time too. Maybe it's partially because of the time restriction but it's interesting to note.

  • @clewis4744
    @clewis47442 жыл бұрын

    I am a 56 Yr old Unix SysAdmin. Bored with that. I am currently following Unity, Godot and Unreal tutorials. Nice to get back into programming. Also not far to retirement.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    Very valuable opinion here 👍🏻 I’m 50 years, wish I could have heard this kind of advice 40 years ago (before internet existed).

  • @DJD10
    @DJD102 жыл бұрын

    I'm actually starting at 51. But I have 25+ years experience in programming and C# is my second nature. My biggest challenge so far is just learning how to use Unity. But I'm too old to work at something I don't care about, so now I want to do what I want to :) Best wishes to any and all of you that are on the same or similar journey.

  • @unrealengine5-storm713
    @unrealengine5-storm7132 жыл бұрын

    Im 35. Got into gamedev 2 years ago. Going strong.

  • @Ed_Kass
    @Ed_Kass2 жыл бұрын

    I have discovered the channel a couple of days ago and I Really like it. I would like to add another perspective... The thing Im passionate about is stories and storytelling, I was planning on writing a book for years and my beggining in this field comes from this desire. I believe the tecnology we have now allows us to do just that, make a game instead of writing a book... Maybe indie and solo game devs have more in commom with old school writers than with the game devs that do this as a career.

  • @shonmacklin9613

    @shonmacklin9613

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great comment. As an artist , I always dreamed of creating a children's book and action comic books. I am good at drawing but hate the concept of drawing for a book. Indie game dev feels right to me.

  • @netfusionuk
    @netfusionuk Жыл бұрын

    Love reading these comments as it resonates with me and clearly many others...nearly 40 and like many here I have a wife..kids and busy dev job...but wondering is worth investing the significant time in game dev at this point in my life...but I think as a lot have said...if you're passionate about it...then why the hell not!!...its about enjoying the journey as well as the end result. Also refreshing to listen to these type of videos from someone with a bit more of an adult opinion.

  • @CodingAfterThirty
    @CodingAfterThirty2 жыл бұрын

    Real good points, not just for game developers.

  • @MegaWill2k
    @MegaWill2k2 жыл бұрын

    I never realized how precious time was until my son was born. I get more done in my couple of hours at night than during my weekends in my younger childless years.

  • @kolacao8134

    @kolacao8134

    2 жыл бұрын

    How do you organize?

  • @MegaWill2k

    @MegaWill2k

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kolacao8134 During the day, think about what exciting thing you want to get done, or learn. It just has to be small. You'll feel good when you get that task done and sometimes it'll give you motivation to do another thing before going to bed. There will be nights when you don't get anything done and that's fine because think about it tomorrow, break it down into smaller tasks and try again.

  • @omnicatalyst
    @omnicatalyst2 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate you saying a lot of this. I'm 35, and I have a little coding skill, but I have a lot of anxiety I'm too old to pursue a life long dream. I've done some game jams and stuff, but the imposter syndrome is real. I'm learning the skills I need to try to break in even now, and every bit of encouragement helps ^^

  • @ProdigiaGames
    @ProdigiaGames Жыл бұрын

    At 37, I still feel very young in spite of anyone making assumptions about who we should or shouldn't be at this age. As far as I'm concerned, to be alive is to learn every day. Your comment about how much of your time was wasted in your youth really resonates with me. I loved to tinker and have been fairly adept with several different game engines, but seeing something through to completion was always an impenetrable barrier to me. Now, my perspective is entirely different. Walls are no longer barriers to progress, but obstacles to be scaled. Skill gaps take surprisingly few planks to bridge then you can generally get back to a full sprint. I've heard from people who have started learning a new spoken language to fluency at almost 80 years old. If that is possible, then game development is too.

  • @elenavaleria9943
    @elenavaleria99432 жыл бұрын

    Definetly needed to hear this, I'm starting now and I'm about do hit 32. But I agree, I do feel more comitted to learning than I ever was in my 20's because there, I was dealing with a lot of shit and emotional baggage. Not I don't have those to deal now, but my mindset on dealing with them changed.

  • @xuraith
    @xuraith2 жыл бұрын

    was closing in on 40 got some free time and I really started trying to learn Unity and I kept a headache for damn near a month. One day it all kinda started to click and the headaches went away and the understanding opened up. A promotion and years later I don't have all that free time I used to anymore so it's all on the back burner, but, I do try and stir the pot every day still at least an hour or 2

  • @migcreatesgames2622
    @migcreatesgames26222 жыл бұрын

    Started in my mid 30s and still going. I made game jams and published a game that I want to make a sequel about. I still feel motivated to make games, and what helps me is the community of people that follow me and give me ideas.

  • @kolacao8134

    @kolacao8134

    2 жыл бұрын

    How did you made a community?

  • @migcreatesgames2622

    @migcreatesgames2622

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kolacao8134 Streaming and talking about my game. I also do some KZread

  • @petethechin
    @petethechin Жыл бұрын

    52 and just started gamedev 6 months ago. I do have 30+ years experience in 3D thought which helps.

  • @m1ndg4messtudio46
    @m1ndg4messtudio462 жыл бұрын

    I started game dev (including learning to code) a year before I had my first kid at 34. Released my mobile climbing game Crux last year to decent success. Some things were harder (finding time!) while others were easier (staying focused, safe income). On balance it was so worth doing!

  • @noone958
    @noone9582 жыл бұрын

    I live in Iran which is heavly sanctioned by US and because of that It's really hard to find a job here. I asked God to somehow tell me if I can succeed in becoming a game developer or an app developer because I'm getting old ( I'm 34 ) and suddenly I received this notification from you. Thank you

  • @iangraham6730
    @iangraham67302 жыл бұрын

    Took up Unity 3 years ago, I'm 41 now, wish I had done it sooner, loving it! I still struggle in certain area's but every time I open Unity I learn something new and become a little smarter 😁 In the immortal words of Shia LaBeouf. . "Just DO it!"

  • @mehdib1781
    @mehdib17812 жыл бұрын

    Time is never over to make a better futur 😁

  • @813South
    @813South2 жыл бұрын

    43 started last year. I feel like now that my kids are older majority of them over 18 I have way more time to focus

  • @muratcanagic
    @muratcanagic2 жыл бұрын

    So then here is my story :) i started my dev journey 6 years ago. I did like 12-13 prototypes in the time. Tried out diferent genres like rts,fps,roguelike,tower defence,rpg... I couldn't turn any of them to be a playable,fun thing... But i learned a lot. I am still trying. See your failures as experiences and keep going!

  • @hectorvelez1546
    @hectorvelez15462 жыл бұрын

    this changes my perspective about gamedev and programming. Im still studying architecture yet im still fascinated about the wonders of gamedev. who knows, maybe my architectural knowledge be handy one day with gamedev, whether i do this for hobby purposes or more. thanks for the video and insight about the beauty of learning even when your old or young, there is always time so its not too late to do gamedev. cheers :>

  • @LostRelicGames

    @LostRelicGames

    2 жыл бұрын

    Having a foundational in architecture sounds very interesting. To mix those disciplines could lead to innovative creative outcomes, wishing you the best

  • @hectorvelez1546

    @hectorvelez1546

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LostRelicGames same to you also, keep making videos and inspire others about the beauty of gamedev, wishing you the best always, Lost Relic Games :>

  • @morpheusdreamer

    @morpheusdreamer

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are definately people with architecture backgrounds who work on the environment design side of things.

  • @hectorvelez1546

    @hectorvelez1546

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@morpheusdreamer i notice on other games also that make buildings or some old ruins that makes you feel the sense of dread or curiousity, or maybe for aesthetic purposes. either way, i hope games and architecture will continue to evolve into masterpieces that we never seen before.

  • @3_14pie
    @3_14pie2 жыл бұрын

    I love how in the thumbnail your expression is like "are you really trying to pull the age card on me? Stop finding excuses and go make a game"

  • @Helthurian
    @Helthurian2 жыл бұрын

    When you're older, you also learn how to target your learning. A lot of folks will try and learn everything, which is why game engines can be overwhelming. UE4 for instance has a lot going on, but if you target learning to what's needed in the moment, it's a lot less overwhelming. Im sure Unity and other engines are the same way. So while young folks may absorb more info, if that info isnt targeted it could get jumbled.

  • @leegaul2161

    @leegaul2161

    2 жыл бұрын

    For me game making is the game. As in, I have more fun constructing something rather than playing it. While I only got into it recently, at 38, I noticed that my prior endeavors - for fun - in art, creative writing, music, and programming, all allowed me to sail right through the "101" of game development as a solo act. I find myself far more organized in the conceptualizing and preproduction stages than I would have been in my 20s.

  • @jgharding2
    @jgharding22 жыл бұрын

    Started at 35 or so fooling with Unreal. Having spent nearly 20 years in pro audio and video, I had quite a head start on aesthetics, software and so on. Now 38 and I learn faster than i used to due to discipline, broad media experience, focus and commitment. In other words, most people don't "get old", they give up.

  • @SubzeroBlack68
    @SubzeroBlack682 жыл бұрын

    Think of it like this. When Flappy Birds came out it was a super hit making lots of money, but extremely simple to make. You could make it in a week with beginner level skill. It wouldn't matter if the creator was 13yrs old or 90yrs old. WHO the creator was or their AGE meant nothing to its success. Most games out there reach success with the fans of the games never knowing the faces of the people behind the development of it. There has never been a time where I see a game being created and look at the creators background or age before deciding on buying it.

  • @ragnar8871
    @ragnar8871 Жыл бұрын

    I'm 35 years old and this video cheered me up, I started in the past when I was about 15... I had fun with rpg maker, it was simple and fun but it ended there, I later started using 3d studio max convinced that knowing how to create was enough 3d graphics...there wasn't much to study the internet wasn't like today, together with it I used a program called adventure maker, designed specifically to create only point and click graphic adventures in first and third person...it worked in frames and still images on which to navigate without the need for programming...then I decided to learn c# because there was always an engine for point and click that was based on this language....I got discouraged and stopped everything I was about 17 also because I didn't there was real documentation especially in Italian....I started studying unity last summer inspired by some videos here on youtube including this channel obviously and I regret stopping at 17/18 years old, now the resources on which to study are really many and organized and it would have been fantastic at the time, however at the moment I try to devote at least a couple of hours a day to this "hobby" .. between work shifts and various commitments, I also studied a little c# with a lot of effort and constancy almost all summer 😅and at least I understood how it works thanks to a course on udemy...too bad that in my language there is very little around and I find it very difficult to take courses in English... very often I have to first understand what he says then the actual concepts😅.... lately I've been following some tutorials on unity using the hutong games playmaker tool to create game logic and I find it very good even if for me taking courses that I don't speak my language it's very difficult I hold on...even if I often feel like I'm wasting my time as I'm never quite sure it's the right way I often ask myself questions like....it would be better to dedicate myself to the c# code and forget it point guard but hey I feel good and it allows me to dedicate myself to graphics etc... or better to study unreal and the blueprint? stuff like that... i hope i can get some good out of this

  • @ragnar8871

    @ragnar8871

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope I wrote in an understandable way, my English isn't great so I used google translate

  • @BBdaCosta
    @BBdaCosta2 жыл бұрын

    Chaves (El Chavo del Ocho) always said, If you is youger still, tomorrow old you will be unless your heart holds the youth that will never die.

  • @Tiernan422
    @Tiernan4222 жыл бұрын

    sometimes I feel like I started too late but then I remember i'm 17 (idk why i feel like that) and finishing my game in my early 20s would actually be amazingly impressive

  • @hhcdghjjgsdrt235
    @hhcdghjjgsdrt2352 жыл бұрын

    I started game dev at 25. I have no coding or art background. I have a job in construction after I did degree in Civil engineering. I love to learn new things.

  • @MrDjaremko1982
    @MrDjaremko19822 жыл бұрын

    When I'm learning stuff I know when to draw the line on learning by taking a break and goto the gym goto bed a regular times do everyday life stuff and get some fresh air and spend time with your loved ones

  • @lasttrump6015
    @lasttrump60152 жыл бұрын

    I started my first game at age 47...its coming along fine as only part time...its enjoyable to get something working well...

  • @noonesp3cial
    @noonesp3cial2 жыл бұрын

    It's never too late

  • @ehaviv
    @ehaviv2 жыл бұрын

    I started my gamedev journey at age 41 :)

  • @bhBlacky82
    @bhBlacky82 Жыл бұрын

    totally agree.. became 40 this year and always wanted to make my own games.. somehow discovered godot and thought, sure why not.. now a few weeks in, which went quite easy as a software engineer and the good thing is, my oldest son at age 13 now also is very interested in it and instead of gaming all the time, he also makes a game now and we can share a common knowledge now ;)

  • @StormX312
    @StormX3122 жыл бұрын

    I'm 30 and have been thinking about it. I absorbed a lot of small things in the past. My first game dev experience was modding Wolfenstein 3D way back. Doing maps, changing graphics, code, etc. At one point I tried to make maps for Return to Castle Wolfenstein/ET but failed miserably (too young to understand and no discipline). Learned from it though. I messed around with Unity several years back but never really created anything more than the equivalent of a web dev TODO list app. I started in Unreal doing blueprints not too long ago. I really like it but I'd rather go back to writing code. Learned how to make 3D models in blender by recreating some simple stuff from Fallout. My day job has been web dev for the last 8 years and I'm just burned out on it man. I need a new goal or path to walk. I just don't care about anything I'm working on. It is really tough for me still to do something completely on my own and not get overwhelmed. I keep failing. I feel like I'm wired to be an employee and not a solo dev. I end up going on a sprint, take in a bunch of information via tutorial, then go off on my own trying not to be hand held, accomplish stuff, feel good, and then burn out and take a long break before attempting the cycle again. I'm teetering that line of maybe it's just not my path to walk. I used to play games and a lot and still enjoy them but for me it's just the same anymore. This is a difficult time in my life!