Tom Mboya the white man's choice

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  • @stivinsmasai
    @stivinsmasai10 ай бұрын

    "A Single Bullet In The Right Direction Can Change The Course Of A Nation"

  • @emperor5330

    @emperor5330

    6 күн бұрын

    RIGHT DIRECTION OR IN THE WRONG DIRECTION?

  • @vitalisoyoo5128
    @vitalisoyoo51289 ай бұрын

    The best President Kenya never had!

  • @erastusndakize4765

    @erastusndakize4765

    Ай бұрын

    Too bad!!

  • @paolorossi784

    @paolorossi784

    17 күн бұрын

    "A white man's choice" 😂😂😂

  • @Techron254

    @Techron254

    13 күн бұрын

    @@paolorossi784 Even Mandela was a white man's choice. The brits were not as bad as the French. Brits meant a little well for Africa. Their only problem was racism.

  • @user-ys3ij9dy3i
    @user-ys3ij9dy3i24 күн бұрын

    The big man that send that mo'fo to eliminate Mboya was definitely Mzee Kenyatta!

  • @samweliemanuelisir5311
    @samweliemanuelisir5311Ай бұрын

    Accepted, Luos do give birth to leaders

  • @mjelombilini7628
    @mjelombilini762815 күн бұрын

    Where would Kenya be today, i cry blood for this man.

  • @januariffsammy1149
    @januariffsammy1149Ай бұрын

    Thomas Joseph mboya his charismatic skills outmatched everyone including the white man... mboya was very close to presidency and still very far from it..His assassination in July 1969 has got so many conspiracy theories..May his soul continue resting in peace..our hero.. even though I was born 25yrs later after his death, his power , charisma, leadership and service his gave this country during pre-colonial Kenya ; is felt.

  • @paulmwaniki6809
    @paulmwaniki680911 күн бұрын

    It's hard to imagine how much Tom,s brilliance would have achieved for our country had he lived longer.Sadly we will never know.that was a very dark time in our history.

  • @nickfameofficial
    @nickfameofficial26 күн бұрын

    Now we are mourning ogola😭why always Luos😭😭

  • @chrisogonas
    @chrisogonasАй бұрын

    The visionary Kenya wanted to forget, but never did!

  • @mjelombilini7628
    @mjelombilini762815 күн бұрын

    The man who coordinated students uplifts to acquire knowledge in other countries, in order to plough back, that's Development.

  • @anguaswaibsamuel5892
    @anguaswaibsamuel5892Ай бұрын

    Mobutu of Zaire was the choice the white

  • @nancymunga7442
    @nancymunga744210 ай бұрын

    Tom mboya was just a genius, he accomplished so much in those era's despite being a young guy

  • @lekis5975

    @lekis5975

    10 ай бұрын

    He may have been a genius, but based off the documentary it's clear he was handpicked by the British, and given many opportunities that would propel him ahead.

  • @abdulazizabdillahkijaro3070

    @abdulazizabdillahkijaro3070

    7 ай бұрын

    @@lekis5975 mboya work his way up by then for you to be handpicked by white meaning they saw something in him

  • @theonlinebread5224

    @theonlinebread5224

    5 ай бұрын

    he was cherrypicked for all of that

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lekis5975 The documentary is itself biased. They display a copy of the book, "Tom Mboya: The Man Kenya Wanted to Forget" then they arrive at conclusion s totally unrelated to Mboya's life. Mboya was the choice of Africans long before his life's path joined up with the West.

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lekis5975 And Mboya wasn't handpicked by anyone. His values, social, political and economic beliefs just converged with most of the values, social, economic and political beliefs of the West. Did you want him to pretend to be a communist when he didn't believe in communistic principles? You may find an answer in why no one "handpicked" your father to be anything in life.

  • @matome7301
    @matome730125 күн бұрын

    Our own Mboya is the President here in South Africa. It is not so good, you are lucky he didn't make it to power.

  • @raymondmainamugure204
    @raymondmainamugure20410 ай бұрын

    The man Kenya could not forget.

  • @investmania7873
    @investmania7873Ай бұрын

    😢😢 sad ... Really sad to know that the villains in our country are worshipped.. Just like Moi

  • @Time12345A
    @Time12345AАй бұрын

    Sleep Well Tom Mboya 😢💚💛❤️

  • @josephouk0142
    @josephouk01429 ай бұрын

    I'm proud of Luo Tom mboya would have been Kenya's 2nd President

  • @mistalova1000

    @mistalova1000

    10 күн бұрын

    You should be a proud Kenyan. Tribalism is the bane of Africa. It should be, One nation, one tribe.

  • @timpage54
    @timpage545 ай бұрын

    A true hero. Could Kenya have found another destiny had Mboya lived?

  • @paolorossi784

    @paolorossi784

    17 күн бұрын

    Yeah, a true hero of western imperialism.

  • @timpage54

    @timpage54

    16 күн бұрын

    Actually he was the most interesting African politician of his time.

  • @MuthuiKim
    @MuthuiKim3 ай бұрын

    Tom Mboya, the man the country will never forget...

  • @John-xv1nt
    @John-xv1nt10 ай бұрын

    What is outstanding to me is how Njonjo kept mum about Mboya to the grave, in spite of being buddies and confidants. He was even the best man in Mboyas wedding yet he did not attend the funeral. For me, I believe Njonjo took all Mboya's secret information to the grave. Those guys were so close, very close there was also a rumour that, Njonjo wanted to "connive" and enable Mboya to ascend to power. Anyway, may their souls rest in peace. Wherever they are, they know better!

  • @lekis5975

    @lekis5975

    10 ай бұрын

    Judging from the documentary, whatever happened was bigger than Mboya or Njonjo, and Njonjo was wise enough not to talk about it. When you are players on a big stage, you need to know when to talk, and when to keep quiet. Barack Obama Sr didn't know when to keep quiet and well know how things went for him.

  • @trizahmacharia2939

    @trizahmacharia2939

    7 ай бұрын

    Ati njonjo a rest in peace😂😂😂hata yeye anajua haezi😂😂😂

  • @John-xv1nt

    @John-xv1nt

    7 ай бұрын

    @@trizahmacharia2939 Hehe😂 Surely unataka arest wapi sasa, Gaza

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    5 ай бұрын

    Njonjo fell out with Mboya soon after Odinga was sidelined. Njonjo was among the Kiambu mafia crooks who planned the sidelining of Jaramogi and eventual assassination of Mboya. Njonjo had too dirty a past to share with the world.

  • @michaelochido3244

    @michaelochido3244

    4 ай бұрын

    True...There was a meeting in early 1960's between Kenyan leaders and colonial government in Nairobi where Njonjo asked the colonial representatives...why are you looking for a leader to take over after you leave when he is right here in the room...he pointed to Tom Mboya!

  • @georgemayo7383
    @georgemayo738310 ай бұрын

    Very good analysis of historical events in Kenya in the early years of "cold".

  • @jacobmati
    @jacobmati10 ай бұрын

    Mboya was the single-most author of Kenyans modern day marginality of vast swathes of geographies and it’s people

  • @lekis5975
    @lekis597510 ай бұрын

    This is such a brilliant documentary, it confirms exactly what I've been thinking this last 18 months or thereabouts and it explains why Kenya is the way it is. People think Ruto is the problem, but he's only a symptom of the problem, the current set up in Kenya (and African as a whole) were planned many years ago. As one of the interviewees said, President Truman was given a paper on Africa in 1947 (shortly after the 2nd World War). If Africans want to understand why we are where we are, we need to look at the rise of Europe after the 2nd World War; the USA devised the Marshall Plan and gave Europe £13 BILLION to rebuild (£175 BILLION in today's money), whilst African countries were given NOTHING to start the post colonial development programmes. Africanist leaders were ousted (Nkurumah) or assassinated (Lumumba) and stooges (yes men) were left to thrive- I'll leave it to you to figure out who were the Africanists and Yes men in Kenya. All I can say is, people need to stop blaming Kenyatta for ALL the assassinations that took place, some of those moves were above his pay grade.

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    If Ruto is not the problem then who is! Kibaki was in a similar situation in 2003 but he set about working without blaming anyone. Why is Ruto so engrossed with this unproductive effort of looking for scape goats for his inability to deliver? Don't bring in the disgraced Ruto. We are discussing Mboya. Ruto is a triabalist

  • @oltimer8600

    @oltimer8600

    2 ай бұрын

    Stop the silliness! Was there a Marshall plan for Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, etc?

  • @michibosire5000

    @michibosire5000

    Ай бұрын

    Alot of Africanists were disasters for their nation's economies. E.g Kwame Nkrumah, Julius Nyerere and Robert Mugabe. The people couldn't care less about pan African ideals when they had nothing to eat.

  • @franklinnyaberi363
    @franklinnyaberi36310 ай бұрын

    If Mboya would have become president alliance with the west could have had a positive impact on kenya despite the exploitation that could have come with it

  • @lekis5975

    @lekis5975

    10 ай бұрын

    @franklinnyaberi363 Your statement is a study in contradiction. There is no way an alliance with the West would have positively impacted Kenya. The West is hell bent on subjugating Africa and Africans. They've only ever wanted to select leaders who they can use to pacify the masses, as they exploit our resources- be it human, minerals, flora or fauna. They accessed Mboya and realised he was a man they could work with. Had Mboya made president, he would have been expected to be a stooge, and if he rebelled they were going to take him out. This documentary proves what I've been thinking the last 1 year; Mboya was taken out by the British (M16) , they were livid with him for building ties with the USA. The CIA (USA) took out Pio Gama Pinto; M16 (UK) took out Mboya. Njenga was framed, the goal was to drive a wedge between the Luo and Kikuyu communities, and they succeeded (divide and rule). Morara blew the lead off the conspiracy when he found Njenga in Lusaka and was assassinated by MI6 agents most likely.

  • @dicksonhagoi2849

    @dicksonhagoi2849

    5 ай бұрын

    Correct, Mboya had the brains to use his association with the West to benefit his Country, he was not going to be a stooge to lick the white man's boots at the expense of his motherland like so many African leaders have done.

  • @paolorossi784

    @paolorossi784

    17 күн бұрын

    I think colonialism hit you so badly such that you will forever be mental slaves. You have so much faith in the West, don't you?

  • @e.jack.47
    @e.jack.47Ай бұрын

    No single person has that power to change anything. Humans change when they want

  • @alexchepkwony4911
    @alexchepkwony491116 күн бұрын

    Africans doesn't know to groom and mentor upcoming leaders May Thomas Mboya continue resting in peace Iknemboya when I read his sessional policy paper of 1965 At ksg

  • @samsonayiera4947
    @samsonayiera494710 ай бұрын

    May his soul rest in eternal peace.

  • @Brianoluoch-rx1vb
    @Brianoluoch-rx1vb2 ай бұрын

    Kenyans will never get such a leader,,

  • @sirehistory
    @sirehistory9 ай бұрын

    If he was pro-west then we'd be completely screwed.

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    5 ай бұрын

    Mboya was just as pro-West as Kenyatta. Their differences had nothing to to with political ideologies. It was a power struggle, real or perceived. So if being pro-West is your problem, then you have always been thoroughly screwed.

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    Agutu Rosa, Mboya hadn't gone to Addis Ababa to attend an EAC meeting. Why would an EAC meeting have been held in Addis Ababa? In any case EAC had collapsed already. It was an ECA (Ecomic Commission for Africa) meeting. The Commission brought together all African Ministers responsible for Economic Planning. It was a Pan-African body. You come across as a person who tackles issues without adequate preparation and quite often when you have cheeky guests, they use your interviews to sell their own parochial agenda.

  • @kamulucas1738
    @kamulucas173810 ай бұрын

    I am happy to see my teacher prof Gathogo

  • @ngethah
    @ngethah10 ай бұрын

    If he was indeed the white man's choice, then probably we as a country dodged a bullet.

  • @adrianodiembo415

    @adrianodiembo415

    9 ай бұрын

    Think about South Africa and see how he would have been the best President for Africa. Right now we still colonised but nothing to show for it ...

  • @trizahmacharia2939

    @trizahmacharia2939

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@adrianodiembo415 yaani you can reason like this??😂😂😂

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    Well he wasn't. If he was the white man's choice, then the white man would have put him in power when they had greater influence. There isn't much sense in this documentary. Politics is all about building alliances. Mboya was great at building networks. Lastly there was nothing fundamentally different between Kenyatta's and Mbuya's political and economic outlook. Mboya just happened to have a strong capacity to analyse and easily crystallize issue. Secondly Kenyatta was a kleptocrat while Mboya was not driven by the desire to steal public funds.

  • @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    2 ай бұрын

    That's true

  • @agabanicholas4329

    @agabanicholas4329

    26 күн бұрын

    If he had lived, today Kenya 🇰🇪 and East Africa would be like south Africa and Congo

  • @kevinmary7129
    @kevinmary71299 ай бұрын

    It's about tribalism is killing Kenya , Tom was most genius of all in Kenya and kikuyu killed him for jealous of him, Tom is much hated by kikuyu and those of Ruto nothing more nothing less😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @joseO12326

    @joseO12326

    8 ай бұрын

    Have you ever heard of Luo maumaus?😂

  • @abdulazizabdillahkijaro3070

    @abdulazizabdillahkijaro3070

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@joseO12326maumau fought to chase whites out of their mountain ... and being in central kenya near nairobi so many think they were fighting for kenya... they were only seen a threat since they were near to where Muzungu was governing kenya (nairobi) Koitalel did the same Mekatilili did the same Lenana did the same but because they were far from the capital they werent seen as a threat as maumau... Then they saw is was good to work together is the only way to chase mungu thats why oginga kenyatta ngala and the likes united and victory came... and if you want to believe why maumau fought to chase whites from the mountain, just look the amount of land kenyatta grabbed and how many maumau fighters he killed to silent them. Read a book called "not yet uhuru"

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@joseO12326Why should there have been Luo Mau Mau's? Mau Mau ineffectively fought for Land. Land which had been taken away from Kikuyu's who were turned into squatters. It was ineffective because it was a neutralized force by the end of 1956. State of emergency was lifted at about the same time. So it neither achieved it's real goal of restoring the stolen land back to Kikuyus nor were they anywhere near the negotiationstable for independence. It was just an overhyped organization that led to a split in the Kikuyu community and setting up the stage for the civil war within Kikuyu tribe in the form of Mau Mau's vs Kikuyu homeguards. There were neither homeguards nor Mau Mau's outside Kikuyu regions.

  • @panafrican.nation

    @panafrican.nation

    Ай бұрын

    @@georgeodhiambo598 I'm from Mount Kenya and the Mau Mau struggle definitely helped staunch the flow of Europeans into Kenya that was growing from a steady trickle into a heavy flow. The settlers had advertised all over the UK, and even in Australia and South Africa for people to come to Kenya and "live like royalty". Kenya was definitely going the New Zealand route. In fact, there had been serious consideration to set aside 4 million acres for a Zionist state in Kenya/Uganda. Some of us could be going through what Palestine is going through right now. I grew up in a house/farm formerly owned by a colonialist so I'm very interested in the history and have even documented the details of a lot of the settlers that settled within a 100 km radius of where I lived. As far as I'm concerned, the Mau Mau struggle was fruitful and I'm very thankful for it. Of course they were going against far superior opponents, who brought in bomber aircraft and bombed the hell out out of them in the Aberdare forest. Like in anything in Kenya (and the world really), those who fight against an established social order aren't the ones that reap the benefits, but that doesn't negate their struggle.

  • @user-tk6lc8zv9c

    @user-tk6lc8zv9c

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@abdulazizabdillahkijaro3070 When those you mentioned were fighting there was no Nairobi. They were fighting to evict invaders to their tribal lands. At that time Kikuyu also had resisted through Waiyaki wa hinga. Mau mau is a later development after many years of colonial misrule.

  • @makhulooduori9994
    @makhulooduori999410 ай бұрын

    Your good analysts do not tell us why one should be killed for his intelligence and talent?

  • @lekis5975

    @lekis5975

    10 ай бұрын

    Dude, jaza pengo. The West is hell bent on subjugating Africa and Africans. They've only ever wanted to select leaders who they can use to pacify the masses, as they exploit our resources- be it human, minerals, flora or fauna. They accessed Mboya and realised he was a man they could work with. Had Mboya made president, he would have been expected to be a stooge, and if he rebelled they were going to take him out. This documentary proves what I've been thinking the last 1 year; Mboya was taken out by the British (M16) , they were livid with him for building ties with the USA. The CIA (USA) took out Pio Gama Pinto; M16 (UK) took out Mboya. Njenga was framed, the goal was to drive a wedge between the Luo and Kikuyu communities, and they succeeded (divide and rule). Hon. Morara blew the lead off the conspiracy when he found Njenga in Lusaka and was assassinated by MI6 agents most likely.

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    5 ай бұрын

    Intelligence and talent sound positive but they are a threat to those in power. Power, particularly power in the hands of the less gifted, hates to be challenged.

  • @michaelochido3244

    @michaelochido3244

    4 ай бұрын

    @makhulooduor.....power is the one thing humans find hardest to share....he was too much of an obstacle to the "Kiambu mafia' ambitions

  • @bonniechannel1497
    @bonniechannel149710 ай бұрын

    So sad😢😢😢

  • @mjelombilini7628
    @mjelombilini762815 күн бұрын

    Fear is the most nightmare, to those who can't assess it internally, the end result is unpleasant and strife becomes a norm.

  • @fredrickoloo3433
    @fredrickoloo343310 ай бұрын

    If mboya would have lived, Kenya could have been far in development

  • @reubenabugah2137

    @reubenabugah2137

    10 ай бұрын

    No no

  • @lekis5975

    @lekis5975

    10 ай бұрын

    @@reubenabugah2137 Why not?

  • @reubenabugah2137

    @reubenabugah2137

    10 ай бұрын

    @@lekis5975 kwa sababu alikuwa mtu wa U. S.A wale watu walifanya kazi walikuwa Pro_ Africa, na America ilifanya jambo kutoa ii dunia

  • @adrianodiembo415

    @adrianodiembo415

    9 ай бұрын

    @@reubenabugah2137 we would have gotten independence late but no lie tungekuwa mbali, just like south africa...

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@reubenabugah2137What are you struggling to say? Kenya has always been pro-West. There were no ideological differences between the path Kenyatta took and the path Mboya would have taken. The only difference was that Mboya understood and articulated issues better.

  • @Jangstaad
    @Jangstaad5 ай бұрын

    Honored to meet Agutu Rosa in person During this year's 1998 Bomblast Memorial documentary

  • @oltimer8600
    @oltimer86002 ай бұрын

    TJ was the most farsighted and consequential political leader Kenya ever had. That is why he remains the most remembered among departed Kenyan politicians. Good on Macharia Munene for his scholarly approach to history. Shame on Wafula Buke for treating history as though it is tabloid journalism.

  • @lekis5975
    @lekis597510 ай бұрын

    Well done KTN. Brilliant job. They said a lot without saying too much. Sasa ni kwa wa Kenya kujaza pengo.

  • @peteraluoch8918
    @peteraluoch89188 ай бұрын

    Ah, Macharia and Gathogo hmmm... don't you do yourselves justice!! "The west made Mboya" please!!!!

  • @abdikarimtoldo702
    @abdikarimtoldo70220 күн бұрын

    The man Kenya wanted to forget

  • @redink8704
    @redink87049 ай бұрын

    Kikuyu always sellouts

  • @erickkinyua952

    @erickkinyua952

    9 ай бұрын

    So being the white man's choice is not a sellout😂😂😂😂

  • @joseO12326

    @joseO12326

    8 ай бұрын

    They fought for independence, them and kalenjins, let them rule in peace

  • @erickkinyua952

    @erickkinyua952

    8 ай бұрын

    From the look of things, tom mboya was a traitor!

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@joseO12326Where were they fighting for independence to the exclusion of other Kenyans?

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@erickkinyua952That's the headline. Have you independently read even the book that they are illustrating as one of the source documents? That headline is misleading. Get yourself a copy of the same book and read it for yourself. Stop getting mesmerized by headlines.

  • @kidathi
    @kidathi3 ай бұрын

    While it certainly true that Mboya was the blue eyed boy of the West, he was also groomed as the antithesis of the Soviet leaning Jaramogi and there existed a bitter rivalry between the two something none of those scholars has touched on. Kenyatta saw this as an opportunity to curtail Jaramogi and exploited it. Further, this notion that Kenyatta was a maumau or a freedom fighter needs to be dispensed with. In fact, he never participated in any freedom struggle and was himself a manchurian candidate for the British, who paid for his stay in England as they groomed him to take over from them. This was debunked by the true freedom hero Bildad Kaggia in 1985. Do people ever ask how he switched names from Kamau to Kenyatta and what the thinking and inclination behind that. He betrayed the freedom struggle that he was never part of and took over the land that had been set aside as resettlement schemes all over the country, from Northlands to Taveta , Kedong Valley and Nakuru.

  • @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    2 ай бұрын

    Bro,, you are very right 100%facts

  • @peterkamau2014

    @peterkamau2014

    13 күн бұрын

    Its funny that kenyans always resort to jomo as the most likely culprit, when it could be equally likely that either moi, kenyatta or Jaramogi had a hand in his death, since he posed a threat to all of them with his popularity.

  • @bonfasmallah3692
    @bonfasmallah36926 ай бұрын

    Kikuyu hace fone alto of damages yo lyo community but God is watching one day!!!!!

  • @mosesgikonyo7929

    @mosesgikonyo7929

    4 ай бұрын

    wacha machungu kijana

  • @user-ob7ir8ml6z
    @user-ob7ir8ml6z20 күн бұрын

    this is what is happening in Kenya even today

  • @wattradingcompany1308
    @wattradingcompany130810 ай бұрын

    Rest in peace

  • @evansmungai6384
    @evansmungai6384Ай бұрын

    What is wrong with being Pro West. He would have been kenya's best shot Until 2010 we hadn't really practiced democracy. And we can attest that freedom of speech is everything nowadays. So he would have been Ideal for kenya from long

  • @kuriagithiora93

    @kuriagithiora93

    Ай бұрын

    Everything!

  • @joshuawanyonyi8341
    @joshuawanyonyi8341Ай бұрын

    Kenyatta knew the damage he will cause on him if he lived😢

  • @canciasnyabiondo7434
    @canciasnyabiondo7434Ай бұрын

    The president who never was

  • @haroldotieno5804
    @haroldotieno580410 ай бұрын

    You've allowed your analysts to bring their bias and revisionist history.

  • @lekis5975

    @lekis5975

    10 ай бұрын

    Biased and revisionist history how? The West is hell bent on subjugating Africa and Africans. They've only ever wanted to select leaders who they can use to pacify the masses, as they exploit our resources- be it human, minerals, flora or fauna. The British accessed Mboya and realised he was a man they could work with. Had Mboya made president, he would have been expected to be a stooge, and if he rebelled they were going to take him out. This documentary proves what I've been thinking the last 1 year; Mboya was taken out by the British (M16) , they were livid with him for building ties with the USA (who wanted to gain a foothold in Africa). The CIA (USA) took out Pio Gama Pinto; M16 (UK) took out Mboya. Njenga was framed, the goal was to drive a wedge between the Luo and Kikuyu communities, and they succeeded (divide and rule). Morara blew the lead off the conspiracy when he found Njenga in Lusaka and was assassinated by MI6 agents most likely.

  • @aqib1992
    @aqib199210 ай бұрын

    The white mans choice?

  • @christinemasitta3828
    @christinemasitta382819 күн бұрын

    Ms. Agutu Rosa and KTN, are you seriously going to turn a Kenyan Hero into a villain? Classic Main Stream Media, using the ignorance of some Kenyans to distort history. The professors sound more like propagandists than academicians !!! A lot of facts are left out, and some of the information seems like hearsay and very biased indeed. Most African leaders at that time studied in the West....does that make them traitors? Jomo Kenyatta was worse. He lived in the UK during the struggle for independence and even married a British woman during that time??? What is so wrong with knowing the language of your enemies.... I think that was super brilliant of Tom Mboya. That's how he and the rest managed to negotiate for independence at Lancaster. A man allied to Martin Luther King, and JF Kennedy must have been thinking of black people's rights....getting an audience with these high calibre of humans is no joke. A man thinking of uniting Africa....amazing! Isn't that the dream of every Pan-Africanist? A united and powerful Africa against the West? What is wrong with using your connections to educate fellow Africans at some of the best universities in that time? A selfish man, thinking of his own greed for power, would not care about such things. KTN-shame on you.

  • @pishwesh456
    @pishwesh4565 ай бұрын

    Mboya was eliminated by CIA. He was the secretary to kwame nkhuruma of Ghana in African union at a time there was rallying to have united states of Africa. Also his association with Martin luther king in civil rights movement in the us. During this period the west were eliminating any black leader they deemed a threat to imperialism and capitalism. Mboya was a proponent of african socialism at a time there was conflict between communism and capitalism. JF kennedy was a supporter of black struggle movement and a critic of state of israel therefore the establishment saw him a threat. They had to eliminate malcom x, pio gama pinto, martin luther, J F kennedy, mboya. They also sponsored many coups in africa.

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    Stop advertizing your ignorance here. Mboya was never a secretary to Kwame Nkrumah. Mboya was killed due to Kenya's local political power struggles. Read and get informed and stop writing nonsense.

  • @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    2 ай бұрын

    What you are saying makes some sense

  • @pishwesh456

    @pishwesh456

    2 ай бұрын

    @@georgeodhiambo598 So you want to say oginga killed mboya? Kenyatta and mboya were buddies, mboya was no way a political threat to kenyatta. The only kenyatta involvement in mboya killing was he knew what happened. Mboyas assassin was trained in Bulgaria. You need to broaden your mind beyond village politics.

  • @panafrican.nation

    @panafrican.nation

    Ай бұрын

    My (Kikuyu & capitalist) father who knew a lot of people from that era believes that Jomo was involved but I simply don't see the connection. At no point did I see Mboya grow into any form of national political threat. There most likely would have been some other form of political persecution (like happened to Oginga) before assassination if that was the case. Jumping from buddies to assassination without intervening hostilities would be bizarre. I've been to Mboya's burial site in Rusinga Island and I know some of his grandchildren. Lovely people.

  • @ezekieljacob5795

    @ezekieljacob5795

    21 күн бұрын

    Bla bla bla please come and run for president we will vote for you.

  • @gilbertsanya9561
    @gilbertsanya956121 күн бұрын

    They always say one tribe saved kenya am beggining to think it is a lie

  • @kuschprince3216
    @kuschprince321619 күн бұрын

    Mboya could have been the best president (tree terms) if had joined hands with "KADU" together with his community instead of kanu! The late Ronald G. Ngalla, the father of devolution/ Majmbo persuaded them both (Jaramogi & him) but opted for kanu.They both gave oxygine to the party that turned against them! Jaramogi had to turn to Ngalla, Moi, Muliro, take their community on board and join KADU to face jomo´s dictatorship but decided to go solo and formed the "KPU" he failed miserable. Shall raila end the same way? Mboya is the uncrowed king/ prince of kenya.

  • @alphancechege1418
    @alphancechege14189 ай бұрын

    Is this News anchor called Cynthia?

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    No. It is the one who has prepared the documentary who is called Cythia. She lets her interviewees get away with too much bias and selective amnesia, thus selling their own agenda. Her world of reference appears to be limited to these two old and biased hags carrying the title of history. professors.

  • @fredrickoloo3433
    @fredrickoloo343310 ай бұрын

    Mbuya Taya

  • @learnmore1360
    @learnmore13608 ай бұрын

    Like these guys sound extremely jelous bro😂😂😂😂

  • @jackobura2075

    @jackobura2075

    8 ай бұрын

    But it’s the truth bro 😂

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@jackobura2075You can be jealous and appear to be telling the truth, selective truth.

  • @mikeokoth6088
    @mikeokoth60886 ай бұрын

    Mboya was brilliant intellectually but not wise. If only he had listened to Oginga Odinga😢

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    5 ай бұрын

    Over which issue would you have wanted him to listen to Odinga? Are you suggesting that he should have resigned from the Govt?

  • @albertkioko6431

    @albertkioko6431

    4 ай бұрын

    What did oginga Odinga tell TJM that he(Mboya) disobeyed?

  • @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    2 ай бұрын

    Never compare the genius mboya to his master plan killer,, together they killed mboya because of power,, I don't believe that Man neither his son,,,and I don't think if Kenyatta would do that to mboya

  • @mjelombilini7628
    @mjelombilini762815 күн бұрын

    What do you mean, "the white man's choice"?

  • @reggie24
    @reggie24Ай бұрын

    Ruto is also the white man's choice... Connect the dots

  • @user-ir5kn2yv7h
    @user-ir5kn2yv7hАй бұрын

    Can Macharia Munene's position be corroborated? I smell some bias

  • @agabanicholas4329

    @agabanicholas4329

    26 күн бұрын

    True that

  • @emmanuelankomah6343
    @emmanuelankomah63439 ай бұрын

    Greetings from Ghana, he would have sold us out

  • @adrianodiembo415

    @adrianodiembo415

    9 ай бұрын

    He would have made Kenya South Africa, better technology and infrastructure..think about the development

  • @emmanuelankomah6343

    @emmanuelankomah6343

    9 ай бұрын

    @@adrianodiembo415 Big No, don't ever compare the south African situation to ours, the Europeans liked the SA weather conditions as compared to other countries in Ghana 400 years before our independence what development did we get, not even light

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    What do you mean by "us"? Mboya wasn't a Ghanaian.

  • @mosesngigi4952
    @mosesngigi49525 ай бұрын

    "If he was the white man's choice" then I doubt he would have been the great leader potraid.

  • @benmichael4265

    @benmichael4265

    2 ай бұрын

    I think that is the narrative KTN media wants to push

  • @mathewsnyirenda7974
    @mathewsnyirenda797410 күн бұрын

    He was a CIA plant.

  • @brianoyoda5667
    @brianoyoda566721 күн бұрын

    The killers also died

  • @kiplangatwillie8933
    @kiplangatwillie89339 ай бұрын

    Watching this, i believe mboya wasthe man ideal for kenya and africa considering his age. This is now history, but i think the new mboya is William Ruto but lacks some virtues mboya had. Mboya the kenya leader we never had

  • @KavaleThomas

    @KavaleThomas

    6 ай бұрын

    You're joking Mr 😂😢

  • @kennedymutinda4806

    @kennedymutinda4806

    6 ай бұрын

    It had to be a kiplangat

  • @albertkioko6431

    @albertkioko6431

    4 ай бұрын

    Please rethink. You can't compare Ruto and the 2nd president Kenya never had Tom Joseph Mboya

  • @georgeodhiambo598

    @georgeodhiambo598

    4 ай бұрын

    Don't mention the Sugoi thief and tribalist where we are discussing Mboya.Mboya didn't steal anyone's land. Ruto is on record as having stolen Mzee Muteshi's land while he was an MP. Mboya didn't organize any Kiambaa genocide. Ruto shares the same platform with the likes of Bokassa.

  • @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    @Brianoluoch-rx1vb

    2 ай бұрын

    You can never compare the genius mboya who was interested to people's wellbeing to ruto who doesn't care the pain Kenyans are undergoing with the taxation,, mboya would have led the country in a very different way compared to ruto

  • @MutukuVaati-lm3wf
    @MutukuVaati-lm3wfАй бұрын

    Dude is just overated.CIA agent