"Tom Dwan Claps Back on Bad Debt Allegations"

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Nick and Veronica catch up with Tom Dwan on the recent accusations surfacing recently on social media.
Tom dives into his new recent roll as an ambassador and much more. You dont want to miss this one!
"Tom Dwan Claps Back on Bad Debt Allegations"
• "Tom Dwan Claps Back o...
0:00 Warning, Teaser, & (New!) Show Intro
0:38 Nick introduces Tom Dwan
1:10 Regarding Peter Jetten, what is going on?
49:09 On a lighter note… and about Jungleman
52:35 Regarding Haralabos “Bob” Voulgaris, what is going on?
1:17:24 Do you owe many people money? If so, how much?
1:19:16 About becoming an ACR Pro
1:28:00 Dealing with the attacks & possible next steps
1:32:05 Winning the biggest pot ever on televised poker
1:37:09 Wrap Up & Tom Dwan Out
1:39:50 After Glow, Wrap Up & NV Out
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  • @avischraer7693
    @avischraer76934 ай бұрын

    Adderall is a hell of a drug

  • @nicholi2789

    @nicholi2789

    4 ай бұрын

    Clearly on drugs..

  • @marvinsgardenproduce798

    @marvinsgardenproduce798

    4 ай бұрын

    Provigil

  • @MegaLBreezy

    @MegaLBreezy

    4 ай бұрын

    But, but... Simone Biles wasn't! Lol It was emotional "medication"? Haha She clearly wasn't catapulting the competition...smh

  • @alecschneider6475

    @alecschneider6475

    4 ай бұрын

    i thought the same thing haha

  • @jeffreyg5718

    @jeffreyg5718

    4 ай бұрын

    Those of you who are curious: he snorts Oxycodone and Dexedrine to be exact.

  • @tq6892
    @tq68924 ай бұрын

    Vertucci saying he understands but he has no idea what is going on.

  • @idaholandwhore
    @idaholandwhore4 ай бұрын

    Aside from the twitching, nervous mannerisms, non coherent incomplete sentences, made up words, mumbling, camera shaking that sent my dog into seizures, ceiling shots, backtracking, and the drug infused bullshit lies it was a great interview.

  • @christopherpritchard3164

    @christopherpritchard3164

    4 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @doublesooted.

    @doublesooted.

    4 ай бұрын

    I guess he is an Adult millennial

  • @secretguyoz2

    @secretguyoz2

    4 ай бұрын

    What about Tom?

  • @polok890

    @polok890

    4 ай бұрын

    I really didn't like the camera angle

  • @zombiejoe1421
    @zombiejoe14214 ай бұрын

    Am 35 minutes into it and have no idea what is going on, respectfully 😩😩

  • @jeremyrogers6179

    @jeremyrogers6179

    4 ай бұрын

    Join the club!

  • @JohnnyUnrotten

    @JohnnyUnrotten

    4 ай бұрын

    I put on closed captioning and still don't understand what he's talking about

  • @zombiejoe1421

    @zombiejoe1421

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jeremyrogers6179 ya it was a grueling episode, respectfully

  • @zombiejoe1421

    @zombiejoe1421

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JohnnyUnrotten 😩😩😩

  • @timshields8720

    @timshields8720

    4 ай бұрын

    Because he's LYING and desperately trying to dance around the fact.... just saying.

  • @JohnnyUnrotten
    @JohnnyUnrotten4 ай бұрын

    This guy is super erratic; not sure this should even be posted.

  • @billywright9240

    @billywright9240

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed. This interview did not do him any favors.

  • @LS-fw6qm
    @LS-fw6qm4 ай бұрын

    Tom Dwan yapping + Nick sniffing his coke residue in the mic = Unbearable Listen.

  • @zackeryzackery9381

    @zackeryzackery9381

    Ай бұрын

    Tom is babbling. Tom doesn't know how to explain things clearly.

  • @kainoasdad9799
    @kainoasdad97994 ай бұрын

    Tom seems impossible to deal with or even communicate with. How do you talk for hours and explain nothing?

  • @RollOnTable88
    @RollOnTable884 ай бұрын

    Ughh - Tom is not well in this podcast. He is blabbering on, seems jittery, doesn't really answer questions.. He needs some help asap before this manic episode gets worse. #SaveDurrr

  • @1312Mork2

    @1312Mork2

    4 ай бұрын

    yeah he needs to stop doing speed

  • @dcat33

    @dcat33

    4 ай бұрын

    This is how you get when you're sleep deprived and your clock is fully busted. Caffeine and amphetamine cereal

  • @nickcothran3307

    @nickcothran3307

    4 ай бұрын

    You might be right. I was thinking he might be autistic.

  • @timothykyllonen9628

    @timothykyllonen9628

    4 ай бұрын

    On the spectrum

  • @rashad5969
    @rashad59694 ай бұрын

    This interview lowered my IQ by over 30 points

  • @pierre3802

    @pierre3802

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @mackouttavegas........4769

    @mackouttavegas........4769

    4 ай бұрын

    😂 😂

  • @alking6633

    @alking6633

    4 ай бұрын

    Mine by 50

  • @sneakkyz3696
    @sneakkyz36964 ай бұрын

    He can’t just give a straight answer. That’s when you know they are full of it.

  • @jinzokan3499

    @jinzokan3499

    4 ай бұрын

    Or its a complicated situation with a lot of emotion behind it.

  • @sneakkyz3696

    @sneakkyz3696

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jinzokan3499 nah. Just answer the damn question

  • @RollOnTable88
    @RollOnTable884 ай бұрын

    Nick V: "Why did you send the 30k?" Tom: "Mumbles". Nick V: "That's odd"

  • @johnd5619
    @johnd56194 ай бұрын

    Tom has lost his shit.

  • @johndicarlo225

    @johndicarlo225

    4 ай бұрын

    Gambling has that effect to rub bad stuff onto you, I thought in the early 2000s he's really a smart guy...probably time to play and invest with technology to make money like VR instead of old school/online cards...

  • @tomdallas3690

    @tomdallas3690

    4 ай бұрын

    You mean "soul".

  • @ParlayValet
    @ParlayValet4 ай бұрын

    He is incapable of telling a coherent, chronological story

  • @secretguyoz2

    @secretguyoz2

    4 ай бұрын

    It's painful

  • @stephens2272

    @stephens2272

    4 ай бұрын

    Liars often struggle to do so...

  • @jeremykropf9487

    @jeremykropf9487

    4 ай бұрын

    As someone who has been around a lot of staking arrangements and weird pieces being swapped his story actually makes tons of sense. It's not clean and simple. And what he's saying makes pretty good sense

  • @stephens2272

    @stephens2272

    4 ай бұрын

    @jeremykropf9487 bro he says same excate reply to Peter as he does hararalboob how ever u spell his name... hey I owed them I think I did they think I did then they acted like Dicks so I didn't pay or only paid a little then now we don't know how much is owed or if the debt is clears cause blah blah blah fkn blah... this is not the story of a man who pays his debts...

  • @jeremykropf9487

    @jeremykropf9487

    4 ай бұрын

    @stephens2272 so I've been staked for some pretty large online games. If you are owed a cash out then lose back into makeup, asking g to get paid on your wins is a bs scumbag move. Sounds like this is what Peter is doing

  • @nicholi2789
    @nicholi27894 ай бұрын

    I love how Tom rationalizes away not paying people back because they “pissed him off” or “acted like a scumbag” What an absolute pile this guy is.

  • @miguelpalma8389

    @miguelpalma8389

    4 ай бұрын

    Amen...

  • @JohnSmith-su3ze
    @JohnSmith-su3ze4 ай бұрын

    Tom took 3 hours to say "I owe Jetten $226k, but he owes me $800k, so I'm keeping the $226k"

  • @VegasLoungeAct
    @VegasLoungeAct4 ай бұрын

    Moral of the story - Never lend people money.

  • @careycoutinho5834

    @careycoutinho5834

    4 ай бұрын

    Here here. I have a personal rule that I don't lend $ to gamble with nor do I borrow money to gamble with. Well I do have an exception for a couple people but they'd never ask anyways.

  • @nickcothran3307

    @nickcothran3307

    4 ай бұрын

    I guess. I’m still not sure what the story is??😂😂

  • @tq6892

    @tq6892

    4 ай бұрын

    This is how the poker economy operates. Players are always in for pieces of another player or selling action or loaning money to play.

  • @sasssports9664
    @sasssports96644 ай бұрын

    From my experience, I feel like Peter is broke and the 260k means more to him right now than years of friendship.

  • @balbirchahal1890
    @balbirchahal18904 ай бұрын

    Can we have this uploaded in English please

  • @TheStevieb1983
    @TheStevieb19834 ай бұрын

    I am so confused after Tom speaking, to the point that I feel he owes me money.

  • @aRealParadise

    @aRealParadise

    4 ай бұрын

    I finished thw interview i can honestly say tom dwan owes me 30k

  • @fizzy2923

    @fizzy2923

    4 ай бұрын

    LMAOOOOO

  • @syst3mov3rride
    @syst3mov3rride4 ай бұрын

    I feel like the term "never meet your heroes" applies her🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @billnewman2693
    @billnewman26934 ай бұрын

    over 100 researches pooled their efforts and resources and worked for months to come up with the absolute worst and most annoying camera angle for a podcast and sent their findings to Tom. what follows is a result of their efforts

  • @JohnSmith-su3ze

    @JohnSmith-su3ze

    4 ай бұрын

    haahahahaha

  • @DavidSmith-lj1yz
    @DavidSmith-lj1yz4 ай бұрын

    I have enjoyed watching Tom Dwan play for many years but this is a very bad look...

  • @coolkidmurphycool8757
    @coolkidmurphycool87574 ай бұрын

    what a load of bollox

  • @morrisdweck32
    @morrisdweck324 ай бұрын

    The fact that Tom thinks everyone understands what’s going on and doesn’t take time to clearly explain things makes him look guilty. He needs to very calmly layout exactly what went down and then give his view and opinion.

  • @mewalrus

    @mewalrus

    4 ай бұрын

    He has so much going in his mind it's impossible to get it out.

  • @morrisdweck32

    @morrisdweck32

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mewalrus that’s the feeling I get and it must be overwhelmingly frustrating for him.

  • @Nathancl22

    @Nathancl22

    4 ай бұрын

    Haha Tom is being super confusing on purpose, never once did he say I owe this or that.

  • @user-vg5ie5hm1u

    @user-vg5ie5hm1u

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Nathancl22its not on pourpouse. This is a dumb guy thinkng he is starter then everyone ealse at display

  • @johnnyquad6795
    @johnnyquad67954 ай бұрын

    No one will ever accuse Tom for being a communications major,

  • @jackthehealer8052
    @jackthehealer80524 ай бұрын

    TL;DR: Jetten was originally on an upswing, decided he wanted to cashout, and subsequently paid ~230k worth of pieces which Tom agreed to pay back Jetten then went on a 1.6M downswing backed by Ike and Dwan, and Jetten hasn’t played / made it up. Jetten thinks that Dwan should pay the $230k owed by Dwan prior to the $800k makeup to Dwan. Dwan was willing to swallow a lot / all of the 800k makeup, until Jetten decided to go scorched earth about the 230k he unreasonably believed should be separate from any money he should pay Dwan to get out of the $800k worth of makeup.

  • @BigDaddyGee85

    @BigDaddyGee85

    4 ай бұрын

    i guess thats what he is trying to tell us...but damn thats 2 sentences😂wtf is he on?

  • @michaelwou1667

    @michaelwou1667

    4 ай бұрын

    So if you win, you collect and if you lose, you don’t pay Dwan, that’s pretty muck Jetten asking to free roll on the 800K?

  • @andersnielsen6044

    @andersnielsen6044

    4 ай бұрын

    @@michaelwou1667 True.

  • @naswiipp

    @naswiipp

    4 ай бұрын

    That's what I got from what he was saying. He just rambles

  • @jackthehealer8052

    @jackthehealer8052

    4 ай бұрын

    @@BigDaddyGee85his brain is scrambled eggs. There’s almost 0 chance he isn’t a hard drug addict lol

  • @LitCentralMillennialXLIII
    @LitCentralMillennialXLIII4 ай бұрын

    Dwan owes money. He’s not being clear enough so I know he’s full of shit . Nick knows it too but he’s playing cool for the content .

  • @donnyfanizzi5360
    @donnyfanizzi53604 ай бұрын

    I don’t understand anything regarding Jetten. WTF is going on!? Does Dwan owe him money or not? Does Jetten owe Dwan money but was being nice & didn’t want to collect - seems fishy?

  • @acefromspace2727

    @acefromspace2727

    4 ай бұрын

    Dwan owed Peter. Peter has been trying to collect for years. Dwan is a scumbag and trying to confuse a simple situation. All you need to know is that Peter made this public and Tom is mad that it’s public. Scumbags never want their actions made public.

  • @callmejedi

    @callmejedi

    4 ай бұрын

    It's only getting more confusing as Tom talks more

  • @TheBgulya

    @TheBgulya

    4 ай бұрын

    Jetten is down 1.6m in makeup to Dwan and Ike. Separately Dwan owes 226k to Jetten from a backing deal. Jetten believes Dwan should pay the 226k and not have it deducted from the makeup bc the makeup began after the deal for the 226k.

  • @throwaway6405

    @throwaway6405

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheBgulyayou should be a fucking translator.

  • @Jam-r7v

    @Jam-r7v

    Ай бұрын

    ​@TheBgulya and that's where i agree with dwan if he's let him of with the backing then he starts at him for the 226k then goes onto social media aswell then why would you let him off with paying no make up.

  • @ride1123
    @ride11234 ай бұрын

    If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a question.

  • @JohnSeed420
    @JohnSeed4204 ай бұрын

    This interview made me have a stroke 😂

  • @fizzy2923

    @fizzy2923

    4 ай бұрын

    LMAOOOO 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mangohavoc6428
    @mangohavoc64284 ай бұрын

    This is actually wild. I know Tom is a big conspiracy guy but it’s like he’s just making up wild conspiracies regarding who owes who money while trying to claim his detractors are the ones lying and being conspiratorial. This interview is actually wild. It shouldn’t be that hard, who owes who, why do they owe, and have you/they gotten the money or not. These tirades are just all hot air, and it seems to me Tom actually believes them.

  • @virgiliobraga4184
    @virgiliobraga41844 ай бұрын

    For a poker pro he sure is bad in bluffing

  • @jeremyrogers6179

    @jeremyrogers6179

    4 ай бұрын

    I sure wouldn't want to rob a bank with this guy, imagine how that interrogation would look like! 😮

  • @ninjamoves6970
    @ninjamoves69704 ай бұрын

    Poker Swindler starring Tom Durrrrr Dwan 😂😂😂😂

  • @jeredsandry3836
    @jeredsandry38364 ай бұрын

    Signs you have a drug problem: Owe people money. Can't answer a simple question without going off on a rambling tangent. Can't SIT STILL long enough to do an interview without wandering around. Mumbles alot. Bless Nitucci for trying to get simple answers from someone incapable of giving them. It was infuriating to listen to Dwan talk in circles. Dwan needs to lay off the adderall and chill out for awhile.

  • @HabibVentures
    @HabibVentures4 ай бұрын

    Tom is all over the place, Veronica & Vertuchi are lost & so are all the listeners 😅😅😅

  • @Labergemusic
    @Labergemusic4 ай бұрын

    "I'm gonna leave if you don't let me explain" - Tom trying his hardest to control the conversation lol. Should have ended there.

  • @paulpascoe663
    @paulpascoe6634 ай бұрын

    So if the truth is that Jetten was owed 226k after cashing out of backing arrangement which Dwan didn’t pay, but shortly after Jetton went on a 1.6mill downswing while being fully backed, 800k of it Dwan’s, it’s not as simple as ‘oh Dawn owes Jetten 226k despite Jetten losing 800k of Dwan’s money right after and never playing again to try and make it up. Without a written agreement confirming that Dwan still owes the 226k no reasonable person could conclude that Dwan owes the 226k and Jetten gets of Scott free for the 800k. That’s a whack position and the pile-on by the internet nerds is typical bs

  • @SpruceMoose304

    @SpruceMoose304

    4 ай бұрын

    This is just another version of the story. I have no idea about Jetten and the two sides of this but Dwan has a history of dodging his debts. He still owes Jungleman 250k 12 years later and it's not like the 350k he owes will change life for Haralabos either. The logical conclusion is that Tom Dwan believes that the debts he owes to certain people will be forgotten because they don't pose a physical danger. People trying to defend his actions are just insane, don't make insane wager/deals if you can't pay.

  • @madwithoutit

    @madwithoutit

    4 ай бұрын

    I don’t think your aware how a staking deal works… they back him and when they decide to no longer back him then the make up is dead. It’s only if they want to keep backing him and he doesn’t wanna play for them then he owes make up. They ended the deal so he doesn’t owe make up. Outside of this he sold 10% and 25% pieces to events and would sell them and assume Tom to pay after. So Tom was free rolling Peter on these events and if he won he would make money if he lost Tom never paid. Hence 236k bill

  • @whodouthinkuare
    @whodouthinkuare4 ай бұрын

    Tom has done the dirt on at least 5 people and has no intention of paying these people back. He'll do anything to get his fix of poker, his eyes tell all. He'd Rob your grave if needed. Im amazed that he is now sponsored by 3 poker sites.

  • @setofjacks

    @setofjacks

    4 ай бұрын

    While he's getting his poker fix, you're getting yours from gossip where you have no clue of the details.

  • @KnowLoveMovement

    @KnowLoveMovement

    4 ай бұрын

    I use to play 5/10PLO on ACR via BCP and it was the only site I had a losing record on. Always suspected cheating, turns out people were. Not surprised it is the same site sponsoring Tom. Birds of a feather...

  • @michaeledwards1644

    @michaeledwards1644

    4 ай бұрын

    he should be sponsored by more companies actually being the face of high stakes and online poker the past 15 years...he was the MVP of the HCL Million dollar game with Rampage,Keating,Huss,Wes,Polk in that order...people like Harlabos,Polk,Jungleman want to bring Tom down but they will never be on his level in terms of what he did for televised and online poker like what Helmuth and Ivey have done with the WSOP..people want to see people risk it all which is why Dwan,Rampage and Isildur were so popular..it is not good for longevity but you will be remembered as a legend.

  • @joebloggs4933
    @joebloggs49334 ай бұрын

    "So, I'll just say... ... yeah, no when the 2nd guy messaged me, anyway, no he didn't say half. But I mean half was discussed with someone I won't name... Did I agree to half? Well let me first just say there was a guy who initially wanted half... Well I'll stop there, no... ... ... But ya 50% IDK man, like don't be weird, I guess I'll give more details later." -- Tom Dwan

  • @hjalmarwidmark5906

    @hjalmarwidmark5906

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @Nathancl22

    @Nathancl22

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @petermitchell4523
    @petermitchell45234 ай бұрын

    On the show shark tank they say if you can’t explain something in 30 seconds they refuse to invest, reminds me of this

  • @moriorinvictus
    @moriorinvictus4 ай бұрын

    If the story doesn't make sense, call. Ya, I CALL.

  • @INKovari
    @INKovari4 ай бұрын

    This is a masterclass in anti-interrogation. Verbal Kint would be proud.

  • @SpicyNuggs562
    @SpicyNuggs5624 ай бұрын

    This literally feels like a comedy sketch, but the fact that it's real...is terrifying.

  • @Way2fast4u82
    @Way2fast4u824 ай бұрын

    That whole 5-35 min section was the same 5 min conversation seven times on loop 😂

  • @ivasoomluap

    @ivasoomluap

    4 ай бұрын

    and ironically still unintelligible

  • @comicbookchris3509
    @comicbookchris35094 ай бұрын

    I saw Tom doing another interview about these accusations with the same camera angle. He's on a Nostril interview tour.

  • @philphil9347
    @philphil93474 ай бұрын

    Thanks for doing this nick. Needed to hear his reply. It's obvious there are so many deals back and forth between many different people and there's no tracking of things, so problems such as these will arise. Is that Tom's house?

  • @dakidcapone
    @dakidcapone4 ай бұрын

    Wow... Maurice Hawkins is more believable than Tom Dwan

  • @AlexXanderMarketing
    @AlexXanderMarketing4 ай бұрын

    Seems pretty simple. Tom saying Peter is broke and is now choosing specific Credits that benefit him while ignoring outstanding Debts that he owes. The fact that neither Nittuci nor Tom could summarize this very simple story in under an hour is a real head scratcher. For those of you still lost continuing to say that Tom owes him, why on earth would Tom agree to and intermediary and escrow situation??

  • @jameslaytham6665
    @jameslaytham66654 ай бұрын

    What kinda drugs is he on? Just imagine if his mortgage company called him asking why a payment is late! 🙈

  • @datdudecollins

    @datdudecollins

    4 ай бұрын

    Adderall?

  • @Pops1020
    @Pops10204 ай бұрын

    TOM IS SMOKED THE F OUT

  • @corstyl
    @corstyl4 ай бұрын

    Concise, to the point, and convincingly cogent storytelling.

  • @maxvalue8403
    @maxvalue84034 ай бұрын

    29 mins in, and tom is making absolutely no sense whatsoever, not only that, his body language has all the qualities of someone that’s lying or at the very least trying fix shit, looking rough fort so far, lmk keep watching…..

  • @kinam1917
    @kinam19174 ай бұрын

    No wonder he was dominant when he came into poker scene. People had no idea what and how he was thinking because he doesn't even know what he is thinking.

  • @330miggs
    @330miggs4 ай бұрын

    So this is the Culmination of Poker Greatness: Non-Stop Bluffing + Much $$$ Owed 😮

  • @MaximusMerideus
    @MaximusMerideus4 ай бұрын

    This man cannot take any responsibility for anything. It's always the people he owes fault. Makes me sick listening to people like Tom blame the victims of his crimes. To owe a debt, or debts in Tom's case, and not pay it back is stealing. For many years, since the Durr challenge, we have heard many different people call Tom a scammer. Where's there's smoke there's fire. The sad part is these are the only situations of him f'ing people over that went public, imagine how many got screwed but don't want to go public. People like Tom are pieces of shit that will always blame others for their problems.

  • @thejonezy
    @thejonezy4 ай бұрын

    So if Tom owes you money and you're grumpy or an ahole to him, thats reason enough for him not to pay you. Kewl Tom. Grow up. I've been in these situations. It doesnt matter if you grovel at their feet, kiss their a. They will never pay you back. F em.

  • @richboyprado
    @richboyprado4 ай бұрын

    People are mad at Tom for not paying some manic rich guy back. I’m just mad at Tom for filming his under chin in every prompt interview

  • @nickjackson3105
    @nickjackson31054 ай бұрын

    Harolobos explaining the story on hcl with Tom sitting right beside him was hilarious.

  • @michaelb4090
    @michaelb40904 ай бұрын

    Bro I can’t even listen to all of this, Veronica is like wtf is wrong with this guy 😂

  • @nicholi2789

    @nicholi2789

    4 ай бұрын

    She’s just saying what we’re all thinking…

  • @nicholi2789

    @nicholi2789

    4 ай бұрын

    Also,; drugs. That is all.

  • @dudemr
    @dudemr4 ай бұрын

    One of the most impressive thing on this entire pod is that none of them are drunk. I doubt any of them including Tom know what the conversation was all about. Amazing mumble jumble - well done

  • @matthewpoh5155
    @matthewpoh51554 ай бұрын

    Dwan plays high stakes poker in million dollar games and has won million dollar figures in his games but does an interview in his phone and constantly shot below his neck and shaking constantly. Judge yourself what his character is.

  • @laurenstewart7565
    @laurenstewart75654 ай бұрын

    Tom says like a lot…like a lot of

  • @AlphaDawg77
    @AlphaDawg774 ай бұрын

    Tom owes me $50 for the cocaine I sold him before this interview lmfao.

  • @aRealParadise

    @aRealParadise

    4 ай бұрын

    I can vouch i sent him to you who send him to tony, but then tony was out so tony had take a taxi to robbie from.bike store who said he wont deal with dwan cuz he owed 100 , who the tony had 300 so in all actuallity tony pay 200 for the cuban but really the car broke down so tom dwan owes me 700$

  • @tjstreamer5982
    @tjstreamer59824 ай бұрын

    Everybody's gotta friend like this, ask for your money once "sure no problem," ask twice no response, ask a 3rd time nòw YOUR the a-hole harassing them and they want the accounting for the past 20 years of your life

  • @petermitchell4523

    @petermitchell4523

    4 ай бұрын

    My grandma used to tell me “ if a friend asks you for money and you say ‘no’ you lose the friend. If you say ‘yes’ you lose the friend and the money “

  • @propheon9789
    @propheon97894 ай бұрын

    I understand what hes saying. I was very generous in the past and now its the other way around and small amount for dwan they call him a thief. Its like i give you 100k but then burrow 35k and the guy is pissed bcuz i give 30k back instead of 35k.

  • @TheKirkRoss
    @TheKirkRoss4 ай бұрын

    I'm still confused.

  • @michaelmartin8331
    @michaelmartin83314 ай бұрын

    Tom is all over the place and makes absolutely zero sense. I listen to this for 15 minutes and had to turn it off. Based on his demeanor and mumbling responses, pretty sure he knows he owes money. Nick and Veronica are both intelligent people and are well-versed in the Poker community dealings and even they are bewildered by his responses.

  • @totalloser23
    @totalloser234 ай бұрын

    I can save you the first ten minutes: Durr - Jetten and I have had some misunderstandings and miscommunications about some past financial issues.

  • @benjaminskwirut
    @benjaminskwirut4 ай бұрын

    “Shitload of stuff going on.” Who owes who money? Pay up. Move on. How difficult is this?

  • @davidholmes892

    @davidholmes892

    4 ай бұрын

    its difficult bc tom doesnt want to admit he owes money.

  • @Leifmommy

    @Leifmommy

    4 ай бұрын

    He is broke what do you don't understand simple he owes money to different people and big amounts of money 💰 but can't pay them OK

  • @DonnieDarko747

    @DonnieDarko747

    4 ай бұрын

    I can see how shit would get weird when your separately in make up 800k to the guy your saying needs to pay up on a different matter, right now

  • @BasedSandorClegane
    @BasedSandorClegane4 ай бұрын

    People calling Dwan names know absolutely nothing about the world of high-stakes poker/gambling... Tom is clearly on the spectrum & having difficulty communicating which allows assholes like Jetten take advantage of him...

  • @snarfman94

    @snarfman94

    4 ай бұрын

    Must be why him and jungle get along lol

  • @zombiejoe1421
    @zombiejoe14214 ай бұрын

    This is possibly the strangest episode ever in history of podcasts; respectfully ⚡️⚡️⚡️

  • @RollOnTable88
    @RollOnTable884 ай бұрын

    Good to see Nick V and Veronica B conducting a good interview by asking him directly and trying their best to get to the point. True journalism!

  • @chuckhiggins7666
    @chuckhiggins76664 ай бұрын

    After this interview... I believe the other guy. Tom Dwan is unable to defend himself.

  • @michaelb4090
    @michaelb40904 ай бұрын

    lol Tom clearly talks his way through life and we all know these people they have have zero real friends and believe there own lies. Unreal how Tom uses not paying people back cause there mean, and there rude cause you don’t pay dude 😅

  • @theawfulgambler
    @theawfulgambler4 ай бұрын

    Tom talks in his code that he understands - not in terms that even normal poker players can get. The general public would understand Italian better than this.

  • @brightestfuture
    @brightestfuture4 ай бұрын

    im going to quit gambling after this. i know players that cheat, poker dealers and floors that cheat. it seems the cheating is more sophisticated the the higher stakes you go.

  • @daisycuahutle3029

    @daisycuahutle3029

    4 ай бұрын

    How is is done and where?

  • @jat8051
    @jat80514 ай бұрын

    He’s always on some shit. He sounds very shiesty. Jungle said he’s very good a convincing you to loan him money. Just doesn’t like to pay that’s it.

  • @martinmccloskey2435
    @martinmccloskey24354 ай бұрын

    What the....... This makes so sense. 1. Say what happened. 2. Give a time frame. 3. Who owes who what. 4. Tell the story in chronological order

  • @thebackflowbro6864
    @thebackflowbro68644 ай бұрын

    He should just tell them to get a lawyer and sue him .. judge can determine if it’s legit or not which it probably isn’t

  • @houdinihir9549

    @houdinihir9549

    4 ай бұрын

    A judge wouldnt listen to this at all.

  • @nickvertucci6222
    @nickvertucci62224 ай бұрын

    LAYMEN’S terms after 2 hours of Rubic’s cube. Peter was +452K at one point. He requested to cash out, so he gets half, 226k. Tom never paid the 226k. Peter then went on a 1.6M downswing so he was 1.6M in makeup. But he had never got the 226k and it's 3 years later now. Tom thinks he shouldn't have to pay because Peter lost 1.6M after that. But they agreed to settle up when he was winning and tom never paid, so tom should pay it. So Tom basically is upset and lost a ton backing him but Peter still wants to get paid The backer is always responsible for the losses (the makeup) IMO!

  • @Way2fast4u82

    @Way2fast4u82

    4 ай бұрын

    I wish I read this first 😂

  • @Pops1020

    @Pops1020

    4 ай бұрын

    Is Tom on drugs why didn’t he just say that bro just kept on saying shit that doesn’t make sense

  • @Pops1020

    @Pops1020

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Way2fast4u82yeah me to Tom is on crack

  • @michaelwou1667

    @michaelwou1667

    4 ай бұрын

    No, the issue is that Jetten never sent the accounting and didn’t want private arbitration. Instead, Jetten went public knowing Dwan went into 1.6M makeup to help a friend out.

  • @naswiipp

    @naswiipp

    4 ай бұрын

    So Jetten wanted to cash out half of 500k he was owed. He never got paid. Then Jetten goes on to torch 1.6mil. Why would he still expect to get paid? He owes 1.1 million.

  • @jts49780
    @jts497804 ай бұрын

    Nick you are a beast! Interviewing like a straight cop mixed with that classic middle aged guy tell it like it is reality. we need more of that in poker too many scum bags in poker to even count!

  • @SopranosFan57
    @SopranosFan574 ай бұрын

    I’ve never heard an adult man use the word “grumpy” to describe other adult men as much as Tom does.

  • @GucciGeo1
    @GucciGeo14 ай бұрын

    The bottom line is, gamblers, especially High Stakes gamblers depending on which side of the ledger they're on, think everything is negotiable. The way they lend money to each other and make side deals is so opaque, it woud require a quantum physicist to figure out. As for Tom, he is a Poker Savant, but, his social skills are obviously convoluted, it has nothing to do with being on tilt. It's just the way it is, some people are just obtuse. The way I see it, both parties are guilty.

  • @ssok4133
    @ssok41334 ай бұрын

    This was an incoherent mumbling rant, and we are all now dumber for having heard it.

  • @fmcdomer
    @fmcdomer4 ай бұрын

    the crazy thing about the harlabob deal is that he was on a complete freeroll and was up millinos for free

  • @michaeledwards1644
    @michaeledwards16444 ай бұрын

    Tom is a legend, hardly anyone knows who Jetten or Harlabos even are.

  • @christopherpritchard3164

    @christopherpritchard3164

    4 ай бұрын

    More people know Bob than durr in the gambling community and it isn't even close

  • @michaeledwards1644

    @michaeledwards1644

    4 ай бұрын

    @@christopherpritchard3164 Talking about in general..is a company going to make Miki and Bob the face of there company or Dwan? Do they have Leaf trading cards?..Tom is a living legend.

  • @acefromspace2727

    @acefromspace2727

    4 ай бұрын

    Haralobos is the legend and it's not even close, if you know.

  • @johnschumacher1199
    @johnschumacher11994 ай бұрын

    What I do not understand is why the Make Up is being talked about in terms of the equation. My understanding of staking is a player is buying a piece of your action, and if you win they win, but if you lose they lose, that is just the risk they took. I am unaware of a legal or even moral obligation to repay Make Up to a player, because they making an investment for their own profit. So why is that being considered in the conversation in this matter.

  • @henriksenlaw
    @henriksenlaw4 ай бұрын

    Does Dwan actually hear the questions or just creates one in his mind that he wants to answer.

  • @RunItTw1ce4858
    @RunItTw1ce48584 ай бұрын

    First 15min sounds like Peter had a cash out of $226k that Tom owes. But then Ike and Tom backed Peter and Peter lost $1,600,000. So Peter is on a losing streak and wants to be paid a previous cash out after losing 1.6M. Sound right? If Dwan did owe Peter $226k, I would just treat it as Peter is in make up of $1,374,000 and go from there.

  • @5th_Interaction
    @5th_Interaction4 ай бұрын

    Something Something I'm broke and owe money. Next.

  • @JuJu916JuJu
    @JuJu916JuJu4 ай бұрын

    Tom is using every tactic in his arsenal to make this topic as confusing as possible. It’s working.

  • @dennishora3328
    @dennishora33284 ай бұрын

    Good Job Nick for trying to get a yes or no out of the man, an impossible task. Nick's reaction at 36 min is exactly what everyone is thinking.

  • @datdudecollins
    @datdudecollins4 ай бұрын

    19:08 ~glances down to look at phone, and stops mid sentence~ 😳🤯”What the fuck is that cat? Who’s cat is that?!”

  • @matthewpoh5155
    @matthewpoh51554 ай бұрын

    Why poker players use shades to cover their eyes? Why Dwan in most of this interview refused to look into the camera? Be your own judge.

  • @pokerstiff
    @pokerstiff4 ай бұрын

    Finally - like 19 hours late! I was pining like a man crawling through the desert 🏜 for an oasis of an #usedtobe #angrypolak who's a #thirsttrap like #ValerieVeronicaBrill . 😜🤣😂 Thanks! Will enjoy!

  • @jamesmorphe8003
    @jamesmorphe80034 ай бұрын

    i recall some players bragging about players dont need contracts or lawyers to loan or borrow money. now i wonder.

  • @kingsavvysaver
    @kingsavvysaver4 ай бұрын

    I was looking forward to this, but the way Dwan speaks it’s hard to follow.

  • @timstort8223
    @timstort82234 ай бұрын

    Tom loves the up the nose shot on all these interviews

  • @dank2476
    @dank24764 ай бұрын

    It's a fact that all poker players will owe money one to another however it is the big amount that will soon erupt into problematic debts. Best is neither be a borrower, nor a lender and no such problem will crop up. If you want to lend then make sure that amount you are willing to forfeit if the borrower does not pay and if you need to borrow then make bloody sure you return.

  • @HabibVentures
    @HabibVentures4 ай бұрын

    Tom is definitely on some serious shit

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