Old Tom Dwan clips are so interesting. Ten years ago he was a madman gambler. Now with gto being so popular a lot of his plays look fairly standard in retrospect.

@johnnytwotimes7854

2 жыл бұрын

He was definitely ahead of his time in a lot of ways. But he definitely wasn't playing gto, he was playing exploitative based on the massive weaknesses of other players at the time

@clinzatdg2323

2 жыл бұрын

what is GTO?

@listonanymous

2 жыл бұрын

@@clinzatdg2323 Game Theory Optimal

@HOSWELL444

2 жыл бұрын

Green thin onions 🧅

@SaithMasu12

2 жыл бұрын

@@clinzatdg2323 going to ohio

What I always love about this hand is how both of them being stuck plays HUGE into how both of them are perceiving each other as well as trying to convince themselves they can win this hand.

@bouji_

10 ай бұрын

I love how the announcers immediately said after he won the pot, "he's still down $150k!" hahaha

Tom vs Patrick is a forever poker battle.

When Dave Tuckman is speaking with a British accent you know the hand is a classic.

@TonyEnglandUK

2 жыл бұрын

lol and when the British commentator nearly says _"Is that all what's going through Tom Hanks mind?"_ at 7:43

@BallJuiceOfZeus

Жыл бұрын

British accent? Scottish, Welsh, English or Northern Irish? Ah let me guess, English because Americans think english and British are the same thing. Try reading a book

@YogSoth

Жыл бұрын

@@BallJuiceOfZeus Just like there isn’t an American accent. But most foreigners can’t distinguish between the accents from Minnesota, New York. Calgary. Dallas, and Atlanta. “American English” is used despite America not being a country. As someone from the states, my ear isn’t attuned to differentiate between a London and Yorkshire accent, for example. Or a Cardiff and Edinburg accent. I’m using British as a catch-all term because most people understand the joke that way. Being overly pedantic isn’t the smartest way to make a joke.

@TitsMcGee1976

8 ай бұрын

@@BallJuiceOfZeussuck it limey

@d4ve19

29 күн бұрын

​@@BallJuiceOfZeusEnglish is a British accent you muppet, as are Welsh, Irish and Scottish.

Hypocrite Hellmuth at it again... moans and crys when others at the table are talking while he's got a big decision to make and yet here he is chatting and laughing away throughout the entirety of Dwans though process

@ticcusagram

2 жыл бұрын

(Still love the guy though) !

@coreyhuggins5785

2 жыл бұрын

unbelievable just like WSOP situation where phil once again got away with his crying and moaning after revealing he was likely to fold during the hand and refuses to apologize

@abmia77

2 жыл бұрын

@@ticcusagram He’s entertainingly tolerable,but very punchable.

@johnsonunit69

2 жыл бұрын

You could just imagine the fucker too if he was in the same position "OHH MY GOD EVERYONE IS TAAAALKING I CANNT THINK FOR A BIG POOOT, CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?!?!?"

@scrapplepig

3 ай бұрын

@@ticcusagram Kind of like the Dallas Cowboys. You like to see them and hopefully they get crushed.

Dwan has made some of the sickest calls I think I've seen

the good old days when players have good amount of time to make big decisions without having to throw in time banks.

@HOSWELL444

2 жыл бұрын

Tom always took his time .. frustrating at times to watch

@Alex-mh8yb

2 жыл бұрын

@@HOSWELL444 You've never played with the money on the line that he has to say anything like that.

@HOSWELL444

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-mh8yb tony g said the similar thing about durr … and yeah I’ve been in some fairy decent final table hands for decent money .. sooooo yeah I can say

@jmarvins

2 жыл бұрын

all i can say is if i was making a decision for 200+k i'd want a lot more than 3 minutes to think about it!

@Alex-mh8yb

2 жыл бұрын

@@HOSWELL444 Lmao just stop

Incredible technical play from Tom! Part of his reasoning probably included the fact that PA was unlikely to have KQ or K8 or 888 because of his hands card removal.

@lebronjamesharden3958

Жыл бұрын

and now he's broke

@oreocarlton3343

Жыл бұрын

@@lebronjamesharden3958 Dwan is broke?

@rv907

Жыл бұрын

@@oreocarlton3343 he's not

@KK-lg8uz

10 ай бұрын

PA could have been doing pot control on turn as Dwan may have had 67, and then PA valued huge on river with something like KJ, KQ, KA when checked to. It was a unusual decision I think considering his bet into 3 players on flop. Would like to hear his take on it. Possibly a tell or something helped.

@sergitu7

9 ай бұрын

@@lebronjamesharden3958why do you say bullshit?

When was this and how can I watch the full program?

"Good for me. My firstborn is safe."

Tom dwan always scared by patrick 😂😂😂

Dwan always checks turn with a pair of kings here. I hate this river bet by Antonius. All in shove or just take the show down value of your ace for free.

@timb4248

Жыл бұрын

I kind of agree. He was trying to rep KQ, but should have just laid the hammer down and repped the straight or set. That or gave up. His CBet was already a little out of line.

Gambling on your first born would make the game more interesting.

@kemperhp4732

2 жыл бұрын

somewhere that happens

@OGRE_HATES_NERDS

2 жыл бұрын

more so than for money? I strongly disagree

@kemperhp4732

2 жыл бұрын

@@OGRE_HATES_NERDS with who? thats not what I said

@OGRE_HATES_NERDS

2 жыл бұрын

@@kemperhp4732 why did you think I was talking to you

@kemperhp4732

2 жыл бұрын

@@OGRE_HATES_NERDS i got a notification. ur tense

I love all the armchair poker pros acting like this was a super easy decision. There's multiple straight possibilities. Yeah there is only one overcard but given how aggressive the table was pre-flop it's reasonable to assume someone might have a high pocket pair like Qs or Js. This guy bet 80k into a 120k pot. That's not an easy call to make. Dwan called with a medium pair. That's a hero call.

@Cum007

Жыл бұрын

Ok but 75% of the time, opponent has top pair or is bluffing

@tomasnovotny5472

11 ай бұрын

Exactly .... this was not a gamble call, this was top hero call ...could make the call Just because PA didnt bet the turn

@Galaxy-ez8mh

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely roger that

@321dkny

9 ай бұрын

Thank's for the insight texas dolly

The good old days when a simple check of top pair or overpair gets you a $280k pot, I miss those dsys

@rh6761

9 ай бұрын

Huh???

Great commentary from the British guy, good voice for poker commentary

Very ahead of his time. He is a more controlled (basically not a crazy coke head) Stu Ungar.

Wild that Q8s has more equity than AJo. What about Q3s vs AJo? Edit: Just realised another player having an Ace makes a big difference, lol...

@JackaDempsey

2 жыл бұрын

And a 9

@KiraPlaysGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

How does a 9 affect AJ? King/Jack high straights?

@zouz9159

2 жыл бұрын

Q8 heart too.

@KiraPlaysGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@zouz9159 Yeah, my bad. I was doing "s" for suited lol. hh*

Don’t put the spoiler as the title. Say something like Can dwan make a hero call I’m a bloated pot?

@divided_and_conquered1854

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a bloated pot?? No - I think the title might be a spoiler, sure - but it's way better than whatever the hell it is _you_ just typed... hahahah

@alexatedw

2 жыл бұрын

@@divided_and_conquered1854 what?

@Sam-ys6iw

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexatedw read what you wrote dude......

@alexatedw

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sam-ys6iw I read it. What about it

@Sam-ys6iw

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexatedw you said ' i'm a bloated pot ' .. i think you meant ' in a bloated pot ' that is what the other guy is trying to say

Number One tom

Maybe if I could take 10 minutes per hand to make a decision I'd be winning all the time. Not bloody likely

@kennethdonlon3744

2 жыл бұрын

Well, that's interesting, since Dwan made more online with only a few seconds per decision.

@ClarkPotter

2 жыл бұрын

You might take 10 minutes when it's for $283k. Just a guess, tho.

Do you have the cards

Pega essa mesa, seéloco! Só faltou a lenda Brunson(R.I.P)

@tychee1217

8 ай бұрын

ohh is he dead 🥺

Antonius made a strategic mistake of not betting on the turn....he could have had it if he bet huge on the turn instead of the river. Of couse, it's much easier for me to saying this watching the video instead of in the game live.

This is why I hate live poker. 10 minutes for 1 hand.

@qaching

2 жыл бұрын

Live poker cannot be rigged

i guess tom turned into the devil fish with those eye's .

I think he's right. I think winning $200k in 5 minutes made him feel better.

Tom Dwan is probably thinking, wat sort of hand will bet on the flop, check the turn n fire on the river on such a dry board. It is either A3 suited or some stone cold bluff like Ax..

Crazy how commentating as evolve in 10 years. Much better when you mute those two idiots in the booth 😂

Easy call bro

Calling station! Lol

Hellmuth 😂

lol this is 20 years old

Derr is cash goat.

They were just discussing Durrr on Nice Doug Polk's podcast, calling him not one of the greats. I beg to differ.

@chrismoltasanti

2 жыл бұрын

Which podcast ? I'd like to hear them actually say that. What a clown take to disrespect Durr like that

@skinovtheperineum1208

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrismoltasanti It was Polk and some nerd looking guy who knew a lot of poker players. They were choosing the top 20 of all time. Amarillo Slim even got a nod.

@teebo5298

2 жыл бұрын

I'll tell you one thing and I'm not ashamed to say it, my estimation of Doug Polk as a man just fucking plummeted.

@anthonyc7279

2 жыл бұрын

@@teebo5298 xD

@Reck1025

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Doug was being sarcastic because he had similar comments for Ivey.

Is this live?

@christianklein2163

2 жыл бұрын

Wow that comment

@christianklein2163

2 жыл бұрын

Thats a good one

@ryanharber4512

2 жыл бұрын

It was live once upon a time

@chrismoltasanti

2 жыл бұрын

Ya sure

@88bb77cc

2 жыл бұрын

pauvre quiche!

He would bet his first what? 😂

That table is so weird it’s like cut in half

@jonathanforster8537

Жыл бұрын

That's what she said

SHOW THE F@#%ING BETS!!! YOU GOT US GUESSING.

@bennythamacsjourney4774

2 жыл бұрын

Huh? The commentators literally said every bet

@itsthizzbaby

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennythamacsjourney4774 maybe he is deaf and assumed everyone else is as well ;D

Hero call?

Pausing at 8:41 ... it looks like... it looks like Dwan has two noses.

51k more than most people make in a year 😂😂😂 welcome to 2023

Maybe " find out where he is and make it 75k-80k". 😂 Lol And no one reacts to this absolutely idiotic commentary. I don't care what era it was, the stupidity of that play with 2nd pair in an obscenely bloated pot is legandary

@KO-zi2xf

2 жыл бұрын

It was a different game back then

@KeeperOTG

2 жыл бұрын

@@KO-zi2xf How so?

@olivierauberger

2 жыл бұрын

Lol my exact thoughts. Raising second pair, what's the point here. I don't see Antonius calling a raise with worse.

@RaulGroom

2 жыл бұрын

@@KO-zi2xf People still talk about raising marginal made hands "for information" all the time. So hilarious and bad

I like the old style poker. Reading people.

@gergogaal568

2 жыл бұрын

Tom isnt old style, he wasnt reading the person, he was reading the play ... "why would he check the turn if he had a hand"

@TonyEnglandUK

2 жыл бұрын

@@gergogaal568 Oh behave, throughout this hand Durr is making direct stares into Patrik's entire being.

i dont like to see the potsize or what happens in the end with the name of the Video.. its annoying to know what happens before you watch video.. who is with me?

I think Juanda had trips tho

how does he figure it out or is a just a "fuck I am stuck huge" call.

They are in on it together. All subterfuge to send messages to the other players.

If Antonius had top pair or over pair or anything better, he would more likely bet the turn, as Dwan called the flop. Specially with a king to protect against an ace, unless he got AK and still would be more likely to bet on turn. So it would be a trap, or a bluff. More likely a bluff. But the problem is that Antonius is a very tight player, doesn't bluff much. Looks like a trap, but would he be trapping with KQ? Nah, only with AK, so in his range he is like less than 20% trapping, usually you don't trap with overcards, but you play the value betting, the EV is much better when the villain gets the top pair, or a bluff-catcher. So it could be a trap with AK or a bluff, with total air, or a low pair is it worth to call? Not sure, he could be bluffing with KQ, KJ, as he would be afraind of the AK that Dwn could also have. So it would be logic to check/fold with KQ KJ, as bluffing won't make those hands fold. It's a very nice call, and we can call it a hero call, because it demands a lot of information and analysis to get to the fact that it's more likely a bluff with no K. (still could be A8)

@RaulGroom

2 жыл бұрын

The hand reading in the commentary is fairly accurate I think. The primary hands that do this for value are hands like 99 and TT that raise pre, bet flop for protection and then check turn. JJ and QQ could go either way on the turn but could certainly take this line for value as well. Once you get the checkback on the turn you are pretty sure those hands are good and are betting them for value targeting a hand like 8x, 77 or 66. A9 is a pretty good choice to take this line since it picks up no equity on the turn (unlike A7, A6 and A3 which would likely continue barreling) but is not beating very many hands that would call flop and check back turn. What it does beat, Dwan is very likely to bluff. Antonius' bet size is kind of weird though, I would think that he would take a sizing closer to half pot for value. So that may have been a bit of a mistake. Blocking QQ is also good for Dwan. All in all a sharp but not particularly insane hero call by Dwan's standards.

@oranaro9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@RaulGroom yes for sure, when saying something better than overpair I mean 3 of a kind too, but there would be 44 or 88. He blocks the 88, so just the 44 which is less likely. yes the TT are not out of league but why would he check then? makes no sens. So there is one combo of 88 and 3 combos of 44. while he has way mor overpairs, top pair, that the % added will not change a lot the decision making. Q8 is a very good blocker here, but live poker isn't only about that, he might see some tells on Antonius, and overall seems like a +ev call

I would have put Antonio on 55 for a check-raise turn but Dwan checked, so he was going for value with 82k river bet. He played as if he had a 55 set, so that's a hero call.

@mingi1489

2 жыл бұрын

Antonius*

Just came here to laugh at all the KZread GTO wizards.

Phil Helmuth should of taken interest in the hand instead of rabbiting on. He might of learned something on playing high cash poker. And not losing hundreds of thousands of dollars later on.

This may not be an easy call for the size of the game, but if you’re calling flop, x x turn, and river is a brick, it’s a snap call. Antonius is going to occasionally have a set of kings, and about 3 combos of A3. but is he ever doing this with QQ - 99? No way.

@failingatlife9812

2 жыл бұрын

Or AA, AK, KQ, that he checked back on the turn for pot control. Its absolutely not a snap call. Just because it goes check check on the turn doesn't mean they always have nothing... you also have to consider Patrick bet into 3 players on the flop. More often than not Patrick will have the best hand and then I bet you'd say "oh yeah of course you can't call with middle pair"

@davidr1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@failingatlife9812 Why would he need to pot control on that super dry board? A strong king there will almost never be behind, and he has to get value from weaker Ks. That's a classic three-street value board. And when I say it's a snap call, I don't mean that Tom can be confident he is good there a majority of the time. But he is certainly good enough times given the pot odds.

@failingatlife9812

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidr1620 you're obviously under the impression that bet, check, bet lines are always bluffs and never value. That's a huge flaw in your mindset. If a specific player has tendencies to bluff this way then sure but to say "oh yeah you always gotta call with middle pair here" is an absolute joke. In a multiway pot middle pair facing this line is rarely going to be good. Tom made a good read and found a bluff, but if he just calls this spot everytime it's extremely unprofitable.

@davidr1620

2 жыл бұрын

@@failingatlife9812 I’m not even claiming Tom is good here a majority of the time. Just good enough for his pot odds, especially against an aggressive player like antonius

@scott4936

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt he ever has A3 here.... like very very rarely. He picked up an extra out on the turn and checked it.

How old was Dwann in this video? He looks like he's barely 21.

Your my hero Tom👍

Good for me my first born is safe.

Chúc mừng thầy lộc đã sây nhà mới và cũng chút luôn đại gia đình thầy luôn luôn vui vẻ và thật nhiều sức khỏe

This is NOT a hero call by any means....dumb title. He is calling with 2nd pair and a solid kicker.

He is so annohing with that stare of his.

huge hand developing and of course phil hellmuth and mike matusow need to talk about some chicken shit hand that they played.

dwan still down 150k , patrick 400k down...... who collected all the benjamines

@samiam7342

2 жыл бұрын

everyone eventually winds up several hundred thousand dollars down.........and whoever wins the money pisses it away at the sports book or blackjack tables...............

@TheDesperateArtist

2 жыл бұрын

David Benjamin? 😏

Never bluff someone stuck 250,000 😬🤦🏻‍♂️

GTO: Guys Too Old

Who are the commentators here ? Thanks

@prompt4196

9 ай бұрын

Mr. "32% is better than 35%". .....

With hero calls like these you may win the battle, but you will definitely lose the war.

@titanspirit7238

2 жыл бұрын

You said that backwards by the way. There are lots of battles in any war, so... "You may have won this battle, but you will not win the war" is the correct way of phrasing it.

@YtubeUserr

2 жыл бұрын

@@titanspirit7238 damn! Yes! I have edited and fixed the comment now. No idea how I mixed that one up. 🤦

@felipecalderon4683

2 жыл бұрын

So right haha

@jazerasor1455

Жыл бұрын

I think regardless, reading opponents and their habits is an important part of the game, and at the top level, while I wouldnt make this play I can understand the need to mix up and understanding other people are thinking the same

@spect2376

10 ай бұрын

it seems to me that they had already participated in many such battles before this moment happened :) Loss details come up in the end of the video.

Better lucky than good, and better dollars than sense.

Ничего сверхестественного не вижу. Чек на тёрне с королём он бы не делал. Обычный кол по второй паре.

Easy call after Antonius checks the turn and then bombs the river when a total blank hits.

@Munby1

2 жыл бұрын

You should play high stakes no limit holdem Sam

@Sam-db4mr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Munby1 ok. If you want to stake me, let’s do it.

@user-sk4wf3ve6z

Жыл бұрын

The bet sizing on the river is what decided it for dwan I'd say,too big for a value bet after checking the turn

how much money does Dwan owe people these days? Has he cleared all the old problems?

This must have been before Dwan went broke.....

Steel nerve Nuts That’s poker at its finest and worst in the same hand

Just a fairly standard bluff catch here. By no means is this a hero call.

Still down 150k

This was so dumb by patrick if he bet the turn he wins so silly.. then rando bet the river haha

Now everybody's gonna be making hero calls after seeing this mess lol.

can this dude get some chapstick with all that money?

pero todos esos jugadores eran de fulltilt, esa mano no cuenta, se estaban soplando toda la platica de la gente, que fraude

Not that miraculous to me. He either has a king or not.

Well, the amount of the pot was scary, I don't think the call was a hero call. Patrick's bet didn't make sense and Dwan thought of what he 'could' have and it was worth it to call. If the pot was 3k- he still woulda called and been correct.

easy calls, ... so easy

When you got money to do dumb things you play dumb lol

Love how the brilliant overtalkers on the vid completely miss the A-2-3-4-5 draw and repp. Lame talking heads. That is what I think Tom was working through. Durrrrrrr for the Win!!!!!!

Ivey is the best followed by Dwan. The worst is Laak followed by Hellmuth and Esfandiari.

@RaulGroom

2 жыл бұрын

Phil H is great at exploiting bad players. He would be a hilariously entertaining fish at this table. Laak is great fun. Not sure about Esfandiari. What makes you say he's bad?

antonius looked like he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar. his ♡ was pumping out of his chest 7:10. he didn't bet on 4th... some of the many tells that no doubt lead to this call.

@Thiiink

2 жыл бұрын

all in on the turn

@PkrDealer86

2 жыл бұрын

Is this post a joke? Patrick shows nothing at your time stamp

@RaulGroom

2 жыл бұрын

@@PkrDealer86 I love when people comment that they pick up a live tell on Antonius. Sure. Sure you did.

I respect his ability to play poker, but my god hes such an obstinate mouth breather it just hurts to look at, and he stares down his opponents, id look away just cause id be grossed out 😆

@johnpatterson8775

2 жыл бұрын

im sure theres nothing off putting about you at all

@saiajay6663

2 жыл бұрын

Even Ivey does that so that you don't get a read on him

As far as I'm concerned Patrick's tell's here are obvious... he's on a big downer... lolz and only 7 comments on 4000 views... wot thei!?

@danielbaldree4571

2 жыл бұрын

He did, might as well told him he had an ace high

Horrible bluff cant rep anything

@Cum007

Жыл бұрын

Exactly he basically has a king or not

Easy call, just kinda hard because of the money at stake.

@RodJeez

2 жыл бұрын

What makes it so easy

@MrRyrywakaka

2 жыл бұрын

You would’ve fold if the pot was 200$ and he bet 80$ 😂

@sadiqurrahman9741

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRyrywakaka hahaha I was thinking that I would have folded if he bet $80 on a $200 pot. Forget 80 ! 60 would have done the job. Lol

@pcox530

2 жыл бұрын

Its a bad river bet imo. Dwan even says "I'm trying to figure out why he wouldnt bet the turn with a good hand". Its a polarizing bet. usually going to be the straight or nothing and it makes not sense to have the straight given how the hand went. Not saying its an easy call, but for Dwan it was probably easier than alot he's made in the past.

@predwards8941

2 жыл бұрын

@@pcox530 they explained the Patrick MIGHT be checking back the king because there was no draws and he was hoping to get paid off on the river. Lotta factors plus with that much cash.

Like a $1/2 player calling an all-in bluff for a few hundred. Nice hand but not too difficult a read with 2nd pair.

@connman8d617

2 жыл бұрын

Thank god somebody said it. I make calls like this all the time. The only thing that makes it different is the amount of money these guys are playing for. But they are all rolled for the game, so the money doesn't mean any more to them than 1k means to me.

@withluvpb

2 жыл бұрын

@@connman8d617 Just got into poker. What does 'they are rolled for the game' mean?

@connman8d617

2 жыл бұрын

@Peyton Boyd It means that their bankrolls support the stakes they are playing. See. I am a casual regular at the casino. I have a few thousand set aside so that I can play regularly, that's my bankroll. So if I was to buy in for a game with a $20 big blind my entire bankroll would be on the table and I could lose it all on one hand. You would say "he wasn't properly rolled for that game." Meaning my bankroll couldn't support me playing at those stakes. Well these guys have bankrolls in the millions or possibly tens of millions. So calling 80k doesn't mean to them what it does to us. And if you stop looking at the amount and just focus on how many big blinds it is, this is a pretty standard call that your average reg playing 10c/20c online makes in his sleep.

@dariocomes5960

2 жыл бұрын

@@connman8d617 It's a shame that you were not born rich like these guys and you have to always play against regulars, we would see you at that table playing against professionals

@connman8d617

2 жыл бұрын

@Dario Comes I would get smoked. But that doesn't mean that this call is in any way special. Now, kindly stop being a tool.

Pocket change for the privileged.

@CruceEntertainment

2 жыл бұрын

Well then go get yourself privileged so you can join in the fun.

@williamdavies2375

2 жыл бұрын

No good person has this kind of money to gamble at cards. I pity them

@ticcusagram

2 жыл бұрын

*talented

@8mondaymonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@CruceEntertainment you have no clue.

@Shark_Arise

2 жыл бұрын

Lazy people call hard workers "privileged"

Sorry this isnt a hero call! He just called people, with 1 of the hands on the board.

$677,582,391.80