The FGC: "Man, you suck. Quit playing." The same FGC: "Man, nobody plays this game."

@varenoftatooine2393

3 жыл бұрын

Losing is experience gained.

@jonatanperdomo432

3 жыл бұрын

The funniest thing ever. Two other people play your game and you treat them like crap.

@DOCtorActoAntohich

3 жыл бұрын

Maaann that's so much true, I even cried inside lol

@pancakes7483

3 жыл бұрын

@@varenoftatooine2393 then I guess I'm losing for the rest of my life

@marcushughes870

2 жыл бұрын

"Just lagswitch and macro and play a top tier, idiot"

"I don't fear the man who played 10 000 games once, I fear the man who played one game 10 000 times" - Bruce Lee had he been a fighting game player

@jonatanperdomo432

3 жыл бұрын

"Don't fear the man who practiced 1000 combos, fear the man who practiced one combo 1000 times"

@jonatanperdomo432

3 жыл бұрын

"Unless you're playing +R Johnny and the same crap only works on like two characters"

@tavrincallas3218

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonatanperdomo432 LMAO

Me when I started fighting games: That Dude has 500 losses, Imma beat him Me now: That Dude still playin after 800 losses, hell prolly beat me

People who keeps on playing despite their losses deserves respect.

@DullTwilight

3 жыл бұрын

I have been 11 wins and 470 losses in gg +r learning that game is brutal and my brain doesn't work with it

@IXINineIXI

3 жыл бұрын

@@DullTwilight Going 11 and 470 and still playing takes mental strength that most people don't have. Just keep learning and the wins will start catching up to the losses. Good shit 100%

@DullTwilight

3 жыл бұрын

@@IXINineIXI it's what I'm hoping for my winrate is wild based on game but I actively play with someone much better than me

@madthrasher88

3 жыл бұрын

i couldnt even get a win till my 80th loss lol now at 550W/1000L

@derekchiu7577

3 жыл бұрын

@@DullTwilight on single digit wins and over 100 losses, just gotta grind

I feel like there's a good chance that half these people laughing about winrates don't even play fighting games. You don't get good without knowing how it feels to be bad.

@alexlovehall7796

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment. Im using this with your permission

@madthrasher88

3 жыл бұрын

Losing is how you learn and progress but scrubs don't know what learning is.

@Nero_PR

3 жыл бұрын

Winning just one round after 10+ games of only getting your ass kicked is the most rewarding thing. You finally start to fight back and feel those losses weren't for nothing. Or you are just having a really bad day and needs to warm up.

@alexlovehall7796

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nero_PR That just happended to me. Its a great motivator to keep pushing. However, losing over and over to better players especially when you keep making mistakes or don't know any better sucks

@jermaineallen8310

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexlovehall7796 Just happen to me also while playing SFV

Laughing at people with a large loss count but still playing is like laughing at a fat person trying to lose weight at the gym. Like come on man, they're trying to fix that.

@akumoth8357

3 жыл бұрын

Some people will just straight up put in 1000+ hours in a game and never improve beyond knowing a simple flowchart, tbf.

@strippinheat

3 жыл бұрын

@@akumoth8357 So? They're obviously having fun if they're still playing. Let them enjoy themselves.

@beroberoberoberobero852

3 жыл бұрын

also, if you have more losses than wins it just shows that you are playing people better than you, which is the only true way of improving

@HortenseEmu44

3 жыл бұрын

@@beroberoberoberobero852 Big Facts!!

@viceanterra3

3 жыл бұрын

@@akumoth8357 that's not a problem at all.

A guy with a 10% win rate but only practices against gods for thousands of games would probably be a scary monster to normal players.

@ividboy7616

2 жыл бұрын

No please don't only practice against people way better than you, it's important to practice against all skill levels relative to yours.

"Its about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward!" - Rocks Barbosa

@NocturneYS17

3 жыл бұрын

He's not a man, he's a machine - Rocks Barbosa trainer

@Risky_Boots999

3 жыл бұрын

You’ve definitely been hit a lot

@jy-li1jq

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense rocky isnt the type to block

@naclynerickii

3 жыл бұрын

"Sometimes you need to get knocked back down to get back up to reach the top".

@blacksmithgames8739

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna get hit and just lie there and hate myself

Most of the people who have "good" win ratios farm their trash friends anyway lol. Literally nothing to pay attention to

@bonbon8899

3 жыл бұрын

most dudes that would shit on these players probably don't own the game to begin with.

@taejoonkim5122

3 жыл бұрын

Everywhere I go, I see nothing but *facts*

@ryumanjisen3494

3 жыл бұрын

Real talk here. Most of the players I find in NRS games, with a incredible high win rate, are just trash who quit as soon as they get his ass kicked. Seriously, if you care about your win rate, you still need a lot to learn.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, so easy to farm W’s.

@Dark_Necromancer

3 жыл бұрын

Bro no and No. Win Ratio could come from Ranked aswell and you cant "farm" ppl there however i agree making fun of ppl trying to learn and train is not cool for the fgc and as a teacher when it comes to DBFZ its not ok to discourage ppl from learning fighting games or turn them away and hopefully your job would be to support them and help them learn there BNBs and so fourth.

Ever notice how people who are rude will often get really defensive if you call them rude? They say things like "I'm just bein' real" or "you're just too sensitive." They wanted to have fun shittin' on someone and by you callin' them out they get in their feels like they're the victim

@1blueeye

3 жыл бұрын

Victimhood mentality

@cactuz116

3 жыл бұрын

‘I wanna be controversial but dont want any controversy’ type beat

Real talk Jiyuna is the best FGC KZreadr IMO

@MaskyFalle

3 жыл бұрын

Respect for getting his name right too

@purifyws

3 жыл бұрын

yep agree

@s_e_a3073

3 жыл бұрын

Is not a opinion is a fact

@ganon4688

3 жыл бұрын

the savior unironically

@davidcuellar7414

3 жыл бұрын

Jiyuna and Obama 100% keep me interested in the scene even when there's nothing going on in-person

Thanks Jiyuna. Just lost almost 50 matches in a row in skullgirls and was really upset, but this video actually cheered me up.

@0GTXR

3 жыл бұрын

You should only be upset if you didn't learn anything

@thedojo1025

2 жыл бұрын

Currently getting smoked in dbfz got deranged from ssgod two times

@Firjiwater

4 ай бұрын

Skullgirls online gets more brutal by the year

Jiyuna's therapy video after being utterly destroyed in KoF 2002.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

My Chris is nice now,

@chronology556

3 жыл бұрын

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI try this 5 bar combo. Look for Chris. This guy has nice beginner combos. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZWhmM9mc8S7kpc.html

"This random guy named wheel, nothing about this guy" you did winquit on me which says otherwise, sounds like youre scared Jiyuna. Let's run a FT5 if youre better than that rollback guy.

@MFSIMBA

3 жыл бұрын

LET'S GOOOOO WE STARTING FIGHTS

@augusmnyt

3 жыл бұрын

I like how Jiyuna made a video defending you and now you’re picking a fight with him. Lol

@RPanda3S

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao get 'im wheel

@tavrincallas3218

3 жыл бұрын

I can taste the beef

@H_Eevee

3 жыл бұрын

I love it. The beef is perfectly salted.

“To all the losers in the fighting game community” Haha that’s me.

@dekdenfor9770

3 жыл бұрын

me too, high five

@doncinati7644

3 жыл бұрын

@@dekdenfor9770 hi 10 bre

The thing is that dude wheel with that amount of games he's played will still probably clap a bunch of people despite the losses

@SuddenFool

3 жыл бұрын

Guess the way to put it is " Doesn't matter how many times to lose, as long as you learn to improve from them "

@_wheel_

3 жыл бұрын

lemme just say these hands are rated E for Everyone

@TheSeventhChild

3 жыл бұрын

He'll clap a bunch of people BECAUSE of the losses

Honestly, some of the best lessons I've learned about fighting games happened while I was getting my ass beat

@fadingbeats9074

3 жыл бұрын

Some hard ass facts lol

@Sune

3 жыл бұрын

you used the emote perfectly

@ashtoncooper5478

3 жыл бұрын

Fr! I used to take a million L’s But now I’ve gotten a whole lot better and winning a lot of rounds!

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

Nice emote.

at least 400-500 of those wins and losses with wheel were from me and our discord boys, and I assure you this dude is fucking nuts now lmao

i know this guy in a tekken discord who is stuck in teal ranks for almost half a year, but yet here he still is, booting tekken up, getting bodied over and over again, trying to learn, entering beginner tournaments and still somehow is having a good time. I respect the shit out of him. it also got me thinking. no matter what game, it's not about how fast you make progress, it's about the progress itself ❤

Why you gotta put my win rate in the thumbnail

Losing so much and still going forward is really admirable. The times when I got my back broke in a match are when I learned the most. My favourite matches are where you get your ass beat once, and then the guy is willing to let you run it back or learn what's up. It's super gratifying

@landoncore92

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I like Tekken ranked. A lot of people will let me rerun the matchup 15 times to learn it. It's really nice!

Honestly all I need is some reassurance. Not advice, not tips, not things to get better in, just reassurance. Or at least somebody to level up with me in fighting games.. 😞 it’s lonely out here..

I needed this. I’ve been playing GGST recently and the amount of losses I’ve had has been bad. Maybe out of 100 matches, I only win 2. It’s not a good feeling and I wanted to quit so many times and the people who put down those who learn slower and lose a lot don’t make it better..

Our brains are biologically hard wired to feel worse about negatives than we feel good about positives as a survival mechanism. It's why caveman you doesn't risk losing his arm even if it guarantees killing that tiger. With that in mind remember, you're only casual if you give up.

I would rather lose and have a challenge than win every time

Funny thing now that you mention Art, he has a 0% winrate on his profile, yet he probably can beat half of the stream monsters if he wanted to.

Finally a video about me. Forever C rank in GBFVS.

@protogegamer9963

3 жыл бұрын

we C ranks must stick together

@TheDarkVictini

3 жыл бұрын

Same for us Blue players in Tekken 7

@Weebabuu

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDarkVictini us green players are in the same boat Until we all hit yellow rank. We stick together

As a dude who loved fighting games when he was younger(30+ now lol) and only getting back into it now (AC+R) because of rollback, this hits me hard. It's incredibly frustrating to learn a fighting game when you get bodied by someone far better than you and you know absolutely nothing about what options you have to respond especially when you are up against a Zappa player while playing Order Sol, unlike a FPS game where you can still learn how to quickly duck into cover or choose to commit to a firefight and if you lose, you just respawn. My winrate is at a horrendous 30% out of like...150+ games and it still feels incredibly frustrating to keep on the grind because I feel like I barely learnt anything from my losses even when I spend time labbing, reading up guides, or watching videos. Combined with a community that at times can be outright hostile or gatekeep and you have a genre that basically discourages anyone from wanting to continue playing. I still enjoy playing AC+R to some degree despite the losing and being a salty motherfucker about it though, since its been a long time since I picked up a fighting game. Thanks, Jiyuna.

479 wins 740 losses My jam still goes hard. Fight me🤣

@saysay7191

3 жыл бұрын

You have 480 wins. That’s insane. Don’t pay attention to that loss number

@kyokusada4825

3 жыл бұрын

@@saysay7191 I try to. The ass whoopings keep me humble LOL

I appreciate how earnest this vid is. Punching down is a big problem in the FGC. Another aspect of it is is when stream chatters treat their favorite streamers wins/success as their own. The number of people who call a streamers opponent trash or harass them when the streamer wins, when that dude would easily destroy the chatter is TOO high

90% of people that pick up a fighting game have like a negative k/d. Everybody else is godlike or quit while they were still positive and never played again.

I am 22 year old Indian who played Street Fighter V for almost 2 years now. I have been playing other titles (used to play 3s, Still play super turbo, KOF 98, GG Acpr) and I feel so scared of losing because other people just corner you and throw all the negativity at you. Thank you for the video man, I will know to keep my head up, just focus on observing and learning.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

2 жыл бұрын

Just have fun.

To everyone that focuses on their losses, remember that for every winner there has to be a loser.

Jiyuna for what it's worth, I appreciate the sentiment of "It's not the responsibility of the people who are learning to "toughen up", it's the job of everyone else to not be assholes to them."

I am impressed by patient people who are able to keep their cool, go on playing despite losing so much. At the end of the day, what's important is they are having fun and not being toxic.

When I bought tekken snd played without any intent, i had like a 2.7 win rate I didn't understand jack shit but I just tried to understand my loses and 2 months after actually trying to learn the game i had a 42% winrate not amazing but I'm so proud I didn't just get mad, saludos señor jyiuna lo quiero mucho

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

Not getting mad and sticking with it is already a big W.

@PassionFlame64

3 жыл бұрын

That's amazing in my book. That's mad growth.

I have infinitely more respect for someone who never improves but keeps playing because he loves the game than the guy who plays for a bit then quits the game once he plateaus.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - Teddy Roosevelt

No shame in having more loses than wins, it shows your dedication and will to improve.

Curiously, Lord Daisuke probably realized that there was a lot of negative stimulus revolving around the win rate... Because I remember feverishly looking through every god damn menu in the Strive beta to find the number of losses I had or at least the total games I played and the game wouldn't tell me shit Interesting how Strive only tells you the number of wins you have to try to avoid that negativity some people try to create

I always thought most people lost more than they win in fighting games. Losing is data, its learning, its goofing around and having fun and trying new characters! And then when you actually sweat you can still lose. Nothing wrong with the ratio when you're Being the FGC

Win - Loss Ratio don't mean jack cuz the moment the announcer says Round 1 you about to get this work even if I have mad losses, real shit.

Damn, this video came out at the perfect time. I’m relatively new to fighting games and I’ve been on a losing streak in SFV. I’ve lost like 14 games and won literally once. I’ve been trying trying to remind myself that I’m still learning but it’s hard trying to stay positive. It’s nice to hear from somebody else that win:loss ratios don’t really matter. So, thanks for making this video. I’m going to keep at it!

I remember being a pot monster back in the mid-late 2000s, going to weeklies to pitch in my 5 dollars to the pot and be a part of the community. The pot went to feeding everyone at the venue anyway and people were organizing events at a loss week after week so I was more than glad to go 0-2 every week and pitch in. The only people who would trash someone for their losses is someone who has never been a part of any real fighting game community. Not a subreddit or twitch chat, but an actual community of players and organizers. The Melty music started making me so nostalgic and emotional too because it was Tsukihime that introduced me to Melty which introduced me to the FGC and hearing you talk about this with that music hit me right in the feels. This is why Core-A Gaming is the best FGC channel on youtube.

I think its a honor to play in Evo. 0-2 or not. Pretty dope

I remember when I first started playing fighting games online, I was obsessed about my win rates. I had to have at least over a 50% win ratio, otherwise I would feel like absolute trash. Thankfully, I managed to grow out of that phase and into thinking I'm just trash in general, hah. But yeah, I'd gladly continue being a loser if it meant I could spread the love for some of these niche fighters I like but I just don't really play fighters anymore, much less go online. So I can only really support the other losers, and winners, for the small communities that still exist for them.

Imagining caring for W/L ratio, causal gang forever

"You can't win unless you learn how to lose." - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, he won a lot times with the LA Lakers but he lost to Bruce Lee, he knows what he is talking about.

At my second Brazilian jiu jitsu tournament I lost 7 straight matches in front of my teammates, coaches and the crowd. I was gonna quit after the 4th loss but I kept going, and on the 8th match I got my first win ever. It was demoralizing to get tapped out so many times, but getting the W after not giving up made it so much sweeter. You can do it!

That's how I learned to play fighting games, and I generally struggle with a new game despite being in the community for years now, but I will keep going until the gameplay kicks off with me and I have a blast. Nothing is more gratifying to me than the feeling of getting good in a fighting game.

I think many people don't take into account that it's especially rough in old fighting games. There's often no matchmaking in place so they get matched up with veterans that have 10x their playtime and experience. There's not that many streams or even guides you can watch for those games, so you're often just learning by yourself or asking for advices from others. It's rough man. A constant influx of new players are what keeps old fighting games like AC alive. Cheer them up and welcome them to the community. You'll be proud of them when they stick around and actually become a veteran themselves a few years down the line :)

Last time I laughed at someone's losses I was probably 15, zit-faced, and had terrible self-esteem issues because F puberty. Good players understand the meaning behind the losses because they've suffered them as well.

This video hits different man, Jiyuna is talking about shit that is so much more important than what most people talk about.

Thanks Jiyuna for helping us, the troubled kids, all this time I'm sorry we're troubling your schedule

I’m exactly what this video is all about. I have 20 years of FIFA in me. And got into SFV last year. I lose a lot. But I still enjoy playing it. And now I am looking forward to GGst. This is gonna be my first fighting game that I’m gonna start from scratch. And hopefully I improve. I don’t mind losing at all. I love playing these games. But I hate how people try to show me the negative side when I myself stay positive about the losses. I just wanna enjoy and learn along the way.

That KOF clip lol, reminds me of my fights with my one friend who keeps using jump-ins... I keep anti-airing him too because he's too used to KOF stomps.

I have made it my goal for this year to pass Silver/B rank in a fighting game. As an intermediate player I tend to get excited in a game (SF5, Skullgirls, etc.), hit ranked and then once i make it to Silver, i hit a brick wall. Its happened in 2 games for the past few years. I'd lose for days, get discouraged, then quit. This year, GBVSR is my game and I just hit B rank last week. The wall has hit me again and I'm internalizing the losses and learning to improve, it still is discouraging when i get 10 losses and 1 win after my sessions. Seeing this video really helped me out, I'm gonna keep at it. Im determined to beat the Silver wall this year. Thanks man, gonna lose and get better!

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

7 ай бұрын

Good luck!

This was much needed, it's harsh trying to practice and get better and then I just get mopped by my friend with years on years of muscle memory. I feel like I've been hiding in single player modes for a minute, can't let the losses linger and learn from it. Though I will say getting hate mail after a loss is uncalled for like wtf. I'm still baffled by getting that. Anyways, thanks for the shout out for the losers, we all start there in the fgc it feels like. I mean maybe there are just people who have it down instantly but I'm always expecting to lose, it's the hope of a win, learn, get better that keeps going and all that jazz

as a person how picked up fighting games somewhat recently this has been very inspirational thanks

I wanted to learn fighting games starting with DNF Duel. It looked cool, fast, with simple mechanics for beginners. I pre-ordered it, and since release I've played it for 23-24 hours and with 300 matches played, I won like 80. Some days was like 60 losses in a row. And sometimes I got guys that so aggressive and learned some long combos, they just lock me in the corner and get me annihilated. Yesterday I just flipped, when another Swift Master just locked me in the corner, throw at me so much pressure and I just sit there and don't know what to do. Any attempt from me to do something just ends with my face being splashed on the floor. It was my 20th loss in a row yesterday and I just couldn't play anymore. I want to play this game, I want to learn fighting games in general, they are cool and when you do something that clicks and you do at least short combo, that feeling is amazing. But after that another man comes and give you 60-70% damage in one combo. I have depression after those games. I'm still gonna play DNF Duel, I want to get better at this game, but not sure if I'm really will have fun in this anymore. I know, that you will lose if you are inexperienced, like a lot, but it's still doesn't make it any easier. Sorry for braggin, but I just don't know where else I can say this and not be mocked for my 220 losses

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

2 жыл бұрын

DNF is difficult because offense is VERY strong and defense is weak, so it’s easy to get steamrolled. Stick with it.

Dragon ball Fighterz was my first fighting game. I started at season 3 and now I have 11,000+ online matches with 5000 wins only. I just took my time having fun learning on my pace and I take pride I that ratio. It shows my patients and growth as you fight me. While I was losing, my mind set was just to get better slowly not to win. So It didn't feel bad.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, you are grinding.

Hey man, thanks for this. I've been kind of getting burnt out on the ranked ladder of some fighting games recently. I suffer from an admittedly mild case of cerebral palsy, and so despite doing execution drills every time I play, and having played some games for over a hundred hours(I know that's tiny in the grand scheme of things), it's still going to take me thousands more drills to get even basic stuff like dps consistent. My win rate is fixed in the 40 percents, and some times it dips even into the 30 percents, and you know, I'll get on a losing streak and get frustrated as I mess up my anti air input and get t-bagged by a Bronze Akuma after, again, over 100 hours of play. I feel really bad at the game for my amount of play time, and this discourages me, so thanks again for the positive reinforcement.

The beatings are a key part of the experience. I remember how rare my wins were when I played my first fighting game online (marvel 3). Now I have pretty high winrates in the FGs I play from just experience. Cheers to everyone toughing it out, you've got what it takes

I remember fighting against a Twitch Streamer and I was more upset that his Twitch chat was roasting me rather than I actually losing. It was on DBFZ, and I transferred from Console to PC so it didn't help when everyone thought I was a genuine white square rather than someone who transferred, haha. I was so self conscious about not only my losses now, but also fighting against Streamers so much that I looked on Twitch constantly just to avoid big names and not being made fun of. Its crazy how we can also change our mindset over time while playing Fighting Games. There's getting that drive to improve, and then there's lighting it the HELL up. Doing both takes a while, and so does learning to value how much you've learned rather than the L you took. But man, when you do, it feels GREAT. I'm not great at any of the Fighting Games I play, but learning and winning feels so much more fun. I have much respect for anyone new trying fighting games. It's hard for a lot of people to learn something new and unfamiliar, and a lot of people put pressure on themselves when starting off. I think that's why I always love trying to teach my friends, they're on their grind.

I started my first fighting game, granblue rising, like a month ago and my first 1000 games I had a 10% winrate, and hardstuck C rank🤣. Now 3000 games in, I’ve made it to S! To all the new players out there, we can definitely get good!

Sound advice. I have years of experience and get negative comments myself. I just laugh at those people. As you said "they just don't understand".

I think a lot of people, especially competitive players, focus way to much on the top and thinking about the stats for a moment is a great reality check. I once heard a player saying that "anyone with less than 50% win rate should quite the game" without realizing that if they did his win rate would soon drop below 50% as well. Every Joe Shmoe who drops the game has a ripple effect and the community is poorer for it. It's the width of the foundation that supports the height of the peak. Without the people who tolerate the struggles and keep going the community would collapse in weeks. The ability to accept a loss and keep trying is not just mandatory to get good, it's the beautiful fighting spirit that defines the FGC.

One time in +R I ran into an Eddie player with a 91% win ratio. To my surprise, I was utterly destroying them. And then they ragequit.

@collinsgichuhi8255

3 жыл бұрын

People like that just practice a single BNB and dont know how to react if it doesn't connect

@capefeather

3 жыл бұрын

@@collinsgichuhi8255 I suspect it's the kind of person who usually ragequits when they're about to lose

I even lose fighting bots or in arcade modes in fighting game but that won't stop me from playing and improving myself.

I like that he talks about losing. It sucks when you start a fighting game you really love but in 90% of your matches, you lose to something you don't even understand like 😭 It takes something else to get back up after some type of loses but it's rewarding to keep moving on.

Bro I've been linking these 2 videos to my buddies who think MR is everything in SF6. Lord Jiyuna ahead of his time

was worried this was going to be low tier god part 2 but this vid is amazingly wholesome

This video just helped me with my loss streak in sf6 and on league of legends, thanks dude

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

9 ай бұрын

I lost a bunch yesterday too, you’re not alone lol

Im a fg noob with 15 hr and i play plus r coz of roll back. I want to thank sajam for making this video because it is so discouraging to play a game like plus r where a “newbie” is someone with like 500 hours in game. Hope other true newbies out there like me keep playing despite the struggles of getting perfected on in some matches. Keep enjoying the game and tnx again for bringing attention to this issue sajam.

You being stomped on KoF is the equivalent of me being command grabbed by Kouma players in MB:TL all the time haha! I'm kinda new to playing people online in fighting games (and not just playing CPU or practicing combos) so I kinda expected to get my ass beat, but sometimes it can be a tilting experience, so every bit of encouragement helps to keep me playing. Thanks for the video!

+R is complex and difficult but thats no excuse to have a below 100% win rate. *Especially* new players. Stream monster mindset, who probably doesn't even play the game.

Holding all those L's made me big and strong

I used to go to Kung Fu tournaments, where we demonstrated Kachis, a sequence of attacks put together to look good (Similar to old Tekken openings where the characters showed their attacks hitting air.). Though we were separated by training time, age and such, I was at a point that, I had to compete with Senseis that had 10 years worth of training, there were 0 chances of winning. My family often complained at why I still went to compete though, and I was doing what my teacher taught me, now I won't win at all, but with effort, with every tournament I participate and every loss, I'm one step closer to get where those guys are now. Don't look at losses as defeats, if you are always learning with those losses and always aiming to win, they are just a number indicating how far you have come.

Greetings from El Salvador Jiyuna, I personally take a lots of L while learning fighting games but nothing to be ashamed for, there's no progress without struggle... keep up the great content !!

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

Yup yup.

Great video. Nobody pays enough attention to the 64 people who enter a 256 person tournament and go 0-2. Without them, you wouldn't have had a hype 256 person tournament with god like runs through pools. I'm glad to be that cannon fodder. If I can have more fun losing than you do winning, then it's still net positive for us all!

Jiyuna, no joke, thanks for talking about this. You're a Real G. I'm barely above 50% on my Win Ratio. I think it's like 60 something to like 50 something on +R. Glad some people dont look at just w/l ratio

This video brought me back to when I was on Fightcade getting my back blown out in Third Strike with the biggest smile on my face because I was having fun. Those were the days

as a complete beginner, I tried getting into ggst. My experience so far is like joining a martial arts club where everyone is a black belt and the only thing we do is fight, and no one goes easy on me. I've literally had 30 games straight with different players where I was literally a punching bag for them to practice combos. Until I came across a guy who went slow and gave me some room to try things out. we played for like 25 games and although I obviously lost, it was rewarding to actually be able to play. moral of the story, if you come across a scrub like me who's clearly way less skilled than you, give them some room to breathe please.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Жыл бұрын

They are working on separating the players even more by rank; hopefully you can find some good matches.

In the many FGs that I play, I always have remind myself that I suc, in order to not emotionally attach & have fun, cuz even when I’m winning, I just tell myself that I’m just now sucking less, & when I’m getting thrashed, I just remember it’s just a game, and I’m not a tryhard. I just want to play a game with someone knowing we both gave our all and had fun in the process of learning (or even messing around)

FGC seems to think there's something wrong with you if you aren't a master of something you just started.

Thank You Man, I needed this.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

11 ай бұрын

Stick with it! I’m losing a lot too.

I came across a Potemkin a week back in ACPR who had 2k wins and 3k losses and I thought they were gonna be a god. Turns out they were and got my ass whooped. There is a philosophy I live by: Who would one believe is stronger? One who keeps going because of their wins? Or one who keeps going in spite of their losses?

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

3 жыл бұрын

Yup.

This was a fantastic video. Thank you.

Thanks man. The losses sting but, the progression and improvement is what makes it worth it.

There's also the fact that on Strive it's easy to seed your win/loss by avoiding all but your best matchups. The guys who are losing are often doing so so they can LEARN those matchups and doing give a shit about their win/loss ratio. They instead care about actually understanding the matchup so they can beat it consistently. Win/loss statistics don't win tournaments.

It's easy to have a + win ratio in a game with no skill-based match making, in the sense that you could just unplug if you were about to lose... In +R especially, a plug doesn't count as a loss. I like that you mention that you look at overall games played-- I think this is much more accurate of gauging someone's experience (not necessarily the level of their mixups or execution etc), because someone may play less vs people who they win against and more against people who they lose against, or vice versa. The W/L tells us nothing about the diversity of wins (like a tournament would, where you are matched vs other opponents in 2/3 or 3/5 games) or about how close the wins were. People that wanna stress how important online W/L are seems like the kinda people who have no interest in competition, just statistics; it's not a wrong way to play a game, but it can end up being pretty toxic when people expect EVERYONE to have a 50%+ win ratio (not even touching on how that's impossible). Win loss on its own tells you virtually nothing about the player. The fact that you could probably create a new account and have an easy 50%+ win ratio is testament enough to this discrepancy between W/L and your current skill level. Side note: +R received rollback and got the W/L reset fairly recently; the best testament player in the world, Ketsuke, probably has more losses than victories in their overall career. You HAVE to lose to find your mistakes, and you have to know those mistakes to fix them.

I don't understand the whole "this guy has a bunch of loses he must be bad" thing. Dude's that have a ton of games played and a ton of losses scare the shit out of me because that means they're determined to keep playing and probably know all types of tech from being beat by it. At least that's what I've noticed from experience

In some games where they let you, I tend to rematch more against the players I lose to because I’m trying to learn what’s going on and overtime that “ruins” my win rate, but I feel I learn more from those loses. I thought I was subbed before, but this video didn’t show up on my feed. I subbed again. Great video again, Sajam. 👍🏾

Honestly I thought this was a follow up to the "I am not Sajam" video

This really speaks to me given my recent uphill struggle with Ladiva in Granblue Fantasy Versus (current like 1 - 50+ 🤣)

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard playing a game like GBVS, where there aren't a lot of new players. Most people you are playing have been around for a while.

I feel like someone just gave me a hug

I feel like each loss I take makes my hairline run further and further away from my eyebrows. I am bald.

I recently picked up BBCF, and am getting my ass absolutely thrashed on a daily basis. My win rate is around 20%. Despite that, I still enjoy the game and am grateful for all the players who are willing to run sets with me.

I will always be impressed by the guy with 4000 losses cuz that means this dude has played over 4000 games and is still playing. Shout out to you guys!

Ive lost VF5 FS against the same guy like 80 times in a row, hes the only guy on ranked who ever plays, yet I continue to enter the games and get beaten by his Jacky (i use Shun Di) its a real kick in the ass but Ill continue it until I learn something.