Riddles is also a big TMM fan. His tag is almost always "Masku"

@Alex-RNG

Жыл бұрын

Yea i noticed that too. I’m so glad Tmm is reviewing this match.

@gsegarra21

Жыл бұрын

I’m a tmm fan but maybe not enough what does masku refer to?

@psychosemantics

Жыл бұрын

@@gsegarra21 It's referring to Kazuya's "Masaka"quote but slightly butchered to "Masku" and TMM commonly says Masku at the end of games when Kazuya says Masaka.

@psychosemantics

Жыл бұрын

@@gsegarra21 It translates to "impossible" or "no way".

@offlinecommando5839

Жыл бұрын

Romans 11:18 “Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.”

MainMan trynna learn Smash terminology is like if my old man tried to learn videogames. It's kinna charming.

@ChaosDaKid209

Жыл бұрын

Oh cmon now he isn’t THAT Damn old broo hahaah

@ChaosDaKid209

Жыл бұрын

I thought he was 20 something before he spoke about his age. 😂

@jhetao

Жыл бұрын

Petition to replace the term “edge-guarding” with “corner defence”

@mystikow6287

Жыл бұрын

@@jhetao the chat was wrong, it's supposed to be ledge trapping, edge guards is when you go off stage which is unoptimal it most situations

@stalindorf0195

Жыл бұрын

@@mystikow6287 no they were right, ledge trapping is when you're trying to keep them from getting up from ledge and edge guarding is when your trying to keep them from getting back to stage

Honestly. Riddles makes kazuya look super badass, and not being easy to use

@ShikiRyougi05

Жыл бұрын

Kazuya is fucking hard!...atleast if try to play him cool, you can always play him as a smash char aswell but then he is lame af.

@bruhmcchaddeus413

Жыл бұрын

Riddle play kazuya as like a tekken kazuya lol so it look bad ass and like guy above said ^ if you play him like smash character, he is about as broken as akuma in tekken but no fun yea😂😂

@ShikiRyougi05

Жыл бұрын

@@bruhmcchaddeus413 true, akuma is a good comparison

@Its_PizzaTime

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad Smash kept his complexity. They adapted him to Smash perfectly, I feel. I really don't know if I'd change anything about him.

@extonjonas6820

Жыл бұрын

@Imraz Khan I think when people say hard to use they mean at his full potential. You don't play him like other smash characters and to get all of the sick stuff that he does requires putting in some time. Its not like he is unplayable but I think describing him as hard to master relative to other smash characters is accurate.

I love how he calls the moves either by their official name on the Tekken movelist or the input in the Tekken games 😂

@leofont6026

Жыл бұрын

"1 1 2" lol

@M5M4_hdz

Жыл бұрын

Bro who doesn't well at least I do

@ShikiRyougi05

Жыл бұрын

Imagine calling the moves by smash names...

@vredxiii5551

Жыл бұрын

He’s a Tekken character ?

@ShadyBase

Жыл бұрын

Is the Electric for example an other input in Smash?

20:01 Riddles actually subscribes to TMM and it gives the “Hella scrupman” line. Great way to close out the video 😂

@michaeldevera6285

Жыл бұрын

Lol i saw it too that was hilarious haha

@gotgrill

Жыл бұрын

im in tears man, the face he puts on 💀💀💀

Жыл бұрын

is he the same riddles tho?

@Cayn1234

Жыл бұрын

@ yeah

2:48 that "wtf" to death by laughter made my soul ascend lmaooo

In smash electric is 2frames, so its only one frame more forgiving (and it must be done on an analog stick in smash of course)

@FahmiZFX

Жыл бұрын

Finna drift that stick.

@luckymanx2978

Жыл бұрын

There's also the Smash Box

@BrownieKuma72

Жыл бұрын

@@luckymanx2978 are those things legal in tournament? I remember when they first were a thing, they were meet with controversy.

@AProblemOfficer

Жыл бұрын

@@luckymanx2978 smash box looks so complicated, i play hitbox i couldn't imagine playing on that thing

@Section8dc

Жыл бұрын

@@BrownieKuma72 Im pretty certain they are tournament legal but idk for sure cuz I dont play on one

Good to see TMM’s opinion on these kinds of games changing a bit. His reaction to Kazuya’s reveal in smash was hard to watch lol.

@SolusFather

Жыл бұрын

Personally I thought it was hilarious lol

@NARUTOS25

Жыл бұрын

that was the cringiest video on the internet tbh

@kimashitawa8113

Жыл бұрын

It was funny

@jujujitsu1268

Жыл бұрын

Cry more nerd

@stephaniecurry45

Жыл бұрын

@@NARUTOS25 there’s still far worse

Always very interesting to see TMM and Smash Brothers together, as we saw last time lol. Glad you’re doing this! Riddles is definitely one of the most fun Smash players to watch with Kazuya still requiring many Tekken techniques and commands. All of the fighting game characters are honestly super faithful to their traditional counterparts, I think once you understand the game those FG characters are SUPER fun because it can be like playing their game in Smash. Great feeling. Hope to see you try the game again sometime in the future!

@ChaosDaKid209

Жыл бұрын

I would also LOVE to TMM make a return to the SB FGC!

Riddles is an absolute beast with Kazuya.

@bruhmcchaddeus413

Жыл бұрын

And he play kaz as he is suppose to be too, he dont take easy way out lol he play kaz like tekken kaz purposely. If he played him like smash, he wont even need to try and it would look cheesy

@bruhmcchaddeus413

Жыл бұрын

He play kaz skillfully to max

@Thiccbuu

Жыл бұрын

Faxxx he's a monster

Seeing TMM's character development is neat

Kazuya is the akuma of smash Came from other game, hard to master but op if you can master it

@bsmccrunner4

Жыл бұрын

No way is he that. Akina got nerfed. The didn’t need to do that to Kazuya. He is good but doesn’t beat every character like Akuma did

@twisttempo

5 ай бұрын

@@bsmccrunner4bro he’s broken

@21Handguns

Ай бұрын

​@@bsmccrunner4aged like milk

I was expecting he notice masku sooner but damn i love his reaction when he noticed

@claymora2519

2 ай бұрын

Fr 😂 2:48

Invite Riddles over for Tekken? Or maybe both of you play Smash!? A collab would be a cool idea.

It’s nice to see the main main showing respect to other communities.

The ending was hilarious lmao, perfect timing. "Will you shut up hella Scrupman"

@michaeldevera6285

Жыл бұрын

Whats even funnier is that it was riddles himself lol

@disruptor6550

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldevera6285 OMG I didn't even notice that! That's hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

2:49 LMAO Legend.

Smash has always been a game that is both accessible for everyone while also having an incredibly high skill ceiling, that's what makes it such a compelling fighting game. Kill confirms, jab locks, true combos, edge guarding, spacing, rolling, wake up options, parying (in ultimate) stage control, reads, movement, punishes etc are all things that you have to be adept at in order to play the game at a high level. Also, Melee has some of the hardest execution in any fighting game ever and only the best of the best thrive on that game.

My favorite tekken streamer commentating on my favorite smash player rn. Gotta say it’s pretty cool

@JonCom3dy

Жыл бұрын

Amen. Love TMM

It was so wholesome how he genuinely got hyped for the combos and the giant move list. Was fun watching!

Can’t wait for Riddles to react to TMM reacting to his games lol

@cj_ocean

Жыл бұрын

Tf

@Scorpio7500

Жыл бұрын

@@cj_ocean no u

@themarioking7127

Жыл бұрын

@@cj_ocean did you spill something?

My smash kazuya helped my t7 kazuya. I'm still a scrub

@tanto2624

Жыл бұрын

Same i was a kazuya main in smash then converted to tekken i cant play smash anymore

@bobafettna2074

Жыл бұрын

For some reason I can do electrics more consistently in t7 than smash.

@genodoesgaming2135

Жыл бұрын

@@bobafettna2074 it's the opposite for me. My t7 electric is getting better tho

@tanto2624

Жыл бұрын

@@bobafettna2074 electric in smash is so ez just do the input as fast as u can and it works

@bobafettna2074

Жыл бұрын

@@tanto2624 I think it's the controllers for smash that make it harder

Kazuya's combos in smash look so good, as if he was a kof or dbz char

glad u changed your mind about Smash and understanding that it can be competitive and really complicated, thanks for the good reaction and keep the good work !

Kazuya tiny, but Kazuya ruthless! I absolutely love it. I'm glad that the Smash devs did such a good job with him.

@Entelarmer

Жыл бұрын

Most characters in smash have a moveset that either makes them play like in their main series (e.g. Kazuya, Sora) or = if not possible - has a lot of references to the source material (K.Rool, Banjo, Hero).

@21Handguns

Ай бұрын

​@@Entelarmerand then theres characters like the spacies, Ganondorf, every fire emblem character, every Pokemon, etc

Thank you so much TMM for reacting to Riddles. Both of you are amazing and love your content

Smash Bros sheds light on games and franchise you wouldn’t think you’d have interest in.

@playstationarusu

Жыл бұрын

Thats the best part of it imo. I never thought I'd end up playing and loving Dragon Quest of all things but here we are

@omgzack53

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I got into Metal Gear cause Snake was included in smash

@TH_Zireael2077

3 ай бұрын

Yep. Did not expect to play Fire Emblem games, Final Fantasy games, Tekken, or Xenoblade because of it lmao

This was a pretty pleasant surprise today. I like the fact that TMM took the time out of his day to see Kazuya gameplay when in good hands.

As a life long tekken lover, a TMM enjoyer, riddles enjoyer, kazuya main, and smash competitor, this is quite the sweetspot content for me. Not everyday i get a treat like this lol

18:06 - It's actually his Rage Drive.

It's both about ground and air control but depending on the stage one will take more precedence over the other at times!

I don't play Smash but I like that Riddles plays actual fighting game characters. I've seen him play Terry Bogard down.

@playstationarusu

Жыл бұрын

He's been the "fighting game character guy" for a long while now. Best Kazuya and Terry to do it

@Entelarmer

Жыл бұрын

@@playstationarusu Doesn't he have (or had) pocket Ryu/Ken as well?

@playstationarusu

Жыл бұрын

@@Entelarmer Yup. There's just not a lot of reason to pick them cause they don't really cover any match ups for Terry and Kazuya, though I think he plays them in bracket.

Glad you are opening your mind to Smash. I opened my mind to watching your vids because of that

Tmm thinks it’s crazy how fast the stock goes. If you see a sonic vs a Steve, you won’t see a stock go for 2-3 minutes each 😂

This was a blast to watch Live! & the ending was just perfect 😆 lmao. Riddles subbing at the end of the vid, but it plays the “scrupman” alert xD

@mody1710

Жыл бұрын

Yooo fr! Shoutout!

Hello mainman, The edge guarding can be seen as the primary aspect of wake up in tekken. Just like wake up is a big important part in tekken, so is edge guarding in smash. Smash really is a technical fighter in high level just like tekken. You have much similarities if you look at it this way. There is: Spacing Wake up decision making (edge guarding in this case being a bit harder than in tekkens wake up) Whiff punishing Combos Death combos Throws, throw breaks Parries and death parries Air floats Comeback potentials and even more

@dripfoe_3307

Жыл бұрын

Nice comment, mostly agree. However, I'd argue that ledge trapping and tech chasing are more equivalent to wake up punishment than edguarding. Edguarding is the most extreme form of corner pressure.

@ensar2805

Жыл бұрын

@@dripfoe_3307 i agree. I mispoke, i thought edgeguarding was all of what you stated, but its just one aspect. there seems to be more technicality than i was aware of. Thank you for your comment

@DaDandyman

Жыл бұрын

Edgeguarding is very extreme and risky. I wouldn't compare it with oki.

Least expected, but amazing video. Riddles is easily one of my favourite fighting game players. Loved the video dude!

Ive played Tekken and Smash in an intermediate level and i can say that kazuya in smash is represented very well. He is probaly the hardest character in the game in Smash he is very high execution and relies on timing and prescision. That's why only 2-3 people play Kazuya in tournaments in smash. He moves differently than any other character in the game which adds to his difficulty in execution. Also some fun facts about the combos and his execution: after you get an elecrtic in Smash with Kazuya you pretty much have to read were the opponent is going to fly towards, then the only thing keeping you from doing a 0 to death combo is our execution. The input for the electric is not a just frame input , you have one extra frame to get it. So in Tekken its on the same frame and in smash you can be 1 frame late and you will still get it but that still requires a lot of execution. aftert Kazuya reaches 100% then he enters rage were he unlocks the Rage drive heavens gate and when the zoom in happens it just means that he did a wavedash input before pressing the attack button. If you dont do it that way the move will be weaker , so again it rewards execution. Generally for Kazuya to link jump punch into electric there is a 2 frame gap. I hope answered some questions :D

@joe8198

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the hardest character in the game, there are many more technically demanding characters like ice climbers, peach etc

@themarioking7127

Жыл бұрын

@@joe8198 MFW I forget about those characters at high level play

KZread algo brought me here. Commenting for more smashers can find this. Hopefully you can react to more riddles or smash in general. It's very interesting to see you understand kazuya very well while not really understanding smash. I feel like through kazuya u will see more of smash and I'm excited. Hope to see more of you and smash.

Really happy that TMM is actually able to appreciate Smash’s competitive side more than before, even if it’s partially just cause he gets to see some Tekkenisms in it. Seeing him go from “it’s a party game that people foolishly try to make competitive” to “wow, they are moving REALLY fast” felt nice hah

Ewgf has a 2 frame window. I main him and it's still incredibly difficult to pull off. Definitely one of the hardest characters to play in the game but he's so fun. Everyone absolutely hates him in my region lol

@leofont6026

Жыл бұрын

I can imagine haha. If played well he's a touch to death character. I love him though

@VermillionMonk

Жыл бұрын

Handy tip, I remember someone saying if you hold the d+f input it gives you an extra frame to input for the EWGF. Not sure if it's actually true, but in my experience it feels way more consistent than letting the stick flick back after inputting. With this method I pull off EWGF's far more often than not.

@yoch5383

Жыл бұрын

3 frames with buffer and you Can use the right stick and left to do the input like mixbox it's not that hard

@xBIGFLATSx

Жыл бұрын

@@yoch5383 I shattered my wrists like 3 years ago so my thumbs don't cooperate with me lol so it's difficult for me anyways

@ken7007

Жыл бұрын

Say it with me piss easy

It’s so cool to see a Tekken player learning (or at least watching) their character in smash. I’d love it if more fighting game characters got added to smash and the players from those games came and fought it out in smash.

Love this. Watching Riddles' Kazuya is so hype!

It's really nice to see you regaining interest in smash-tekken :)

I would LOVE if tmm comentated a kazuya set in tournament lmao the cluelessness and the laughing is so funny

The ending with the scrubman😂 Lord knee said its time to end the video

@michaeldevera6285

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and riddles was the one who subbed which was even funnier lol

Love this, as a smash player turned Tekken player, this is one of my favorite videos, Smash Kazuya is weird compared to tekken kazuya, but its fun to see the difference between them, cool to see that you recognize the moves, cool thing is that some moves that kazuya has in smash wasnt even shown, which also comes from tekken, for example the quarter circle forward b input which is kazuya's 2 hit down forward 2 (I think, dont play kazuya that much in tekken) and other moves that he has that are also straight from tekken

Gotta love how he points out every normal as he's doing them in combos on whiff in neutral you name it.....MASKU

Hopefully, more reaction videos of this from TMM. Refreshing to see reacting video like this from a Tekken Pro :))

Love how he is enjoying smash now after being sponsored by WB

Ive been wating for this for sooo long

For you to understand a bit better: Smash is about aerial movement and spacing a lot using your movement to either get in or keep the other one out, usually characters with swords or superior range are pretty strong (there’s exceptions obviously like donkey kong) the game also favors characters with good advantage states, advantage state is when you knock your opponent off of the stage and either edguard them or ledge trap them, a ledgetrap is when you knock someone off stage and you stage on stage to call or bait out one of the four options they came when grabbing the ledge wich would be normal get up ( your character just stands up on to the stage) a jump getup a roll getup (your character rolls on to the stage ending up kinda close to the center of it, the bad thing about rolling is that it’s easy to react to it even if you’re trying to cover other options) then there’s also a getup attack wich leaves you in the same position as a normal getup but your character does an attack that knocks the opponent away to center stage if it hits but it’s really laggy, so that’s ledgetrapping and edgeguarding, wich consist of advantage state again that’s when your opponent is in disadvantage state (off the stage and is trying to get back using their jump and up special and sometimes side special aswell), the reason as to why kazuya is indeed a high/top tier character is because he is slow in the air his recovery isn’t that good and has no range but he can kill you off of 5 different moves at 0% has combos/kill confirms at any % (usually ppl dude around 110 to 130% for reference) kazuya usually kills at around 60 to 80% if he didn’t combo you to death already but to do all the combos you need to have a massive understanding of the character and have to be able to do the input moves perfectly, also the reason as to why lives or stocks pretty much disappeared in games 1 and 2 is because Roy and kazuya are characters that get in and blow you up but games 3 and 4 is because cloud the character kola played in this games Is pretty much the definition of spacing so he doesn’t play as fast

It's great to see you enjoying smash a bit more since this and Tekken are my favourite fighting games so it's cool to see the 2 communities collide. If you want more from riddles you should check out a video hid did a while back where he plays Kazuya in Tekken 7, could make for a fun video

I’ve been waiting for this video lmao.

I never heard of you until this video and this is very cool seeing a tekken player watch smash

"Hey, what was the name of that mass suicide cult that led to 39 deaths?" "4:08"

When riddles started rocking masku I prayed you would watch. Bless you.

Love the fact that the one that sub at the very end is actually Riddles :DD

Everyone argues about whether or not Smash is a true fighting game or a party game, and I think it's both. 1v1s or doubles are complex and fun to play, while 4 - 8 players with items and crazy stage hazards is always super fun. Smash found that perfect balance to satisfy both competitive and casual players, although I think the competitive side does need some work.

@vandagylon2885

Жыл бұрын

Due to the nature of the frame data and hitboxes. The way that the game is played is so fundementally different that it cannot be called a fighting game.

@LealFireBall

Жыл бұрын

@@vandagylon2885 Haha what do you mean? Frame data works the same way everywhere, the 3d hitboxes in a 2d plane is just like umvc3 hitboxes.

@vandagylon2885

Жыл бұрын

@@LealFireBall different standard of frame data from actual fighting games.

@LealFireBall

Жыл бұрын

@@vandagylon2885 Like what though? Most things being negative on block? That's not that uncommon.

@vandagylon2885

Жыл бұрын

@@LealFireBall attack speed. Movement. Purpose of attacks. That's what's different as well.

The icing on the cake was Riddles Subscribing at the end. That was great.

Kola is the opposite of "mindless aggro" - he is super agressive, but there is a lot of thought behind his moves. But rushing against Kazuya isn't good idea most of the time, and it really showed in this set. On the side note, i couldnt help but nod when you were talking about "air movement" being important in Smash. The first time most "normal" FGC players try Smash, they tend to stand on the ground way too much. ;) Thx for video.

Should check out some of Riddles normal online play, man brutalizes other players with Kaz, Terry, Ken, and Ryu. His Kaz combos get terrifying though, completely locks people down

first: what an amazing fight💯, second: the last voice chat🤣

In smash, life states are called stocks nd depending on the mu, stocks can go in the blink of an eye or can go on for longer. There are 2 types of trapping: • There is edge guarding, which consists of trying to secure a stock while the opponent is off the platform. • There also is ledge trapping, consists of pressuring your opponent to stay in the corner/ledge so that you can move onto ledge trapping. Kazuya is high risk, high reward due to that he is not the best in mobility and constantly relies on wave dash canceling and wavedashing to move around. Kazuya is also the most technical character in smash, having the most moves and his best move [Electric] having a tight frame window of 2 frames to perform.

If Kazuya in Tekken is like fine baking, then Kazuya in smash is the crack.

That evil ass anime laugh when he saw Masku

I literally bought tekken this week whilst it’s on sale, he’s my main in smash so this video was really fun to see!

The kazuya vs cloud matchup looks so dope with Kazuya's red rage contrasting cloud's blue limit break

i got to watch this live it was so hype

Cool to see you react to some smash stuff lol

Two of my favorite Kaz players. So sick

As a samsh bros competitive player it can be very fun to watch these matches!

Stage counter pick should be implemented to the Tekken tournament rule set tbh especially today with the amount of floor breaks that lead into combos. Take note Tekken community this is something you can learn from the Smash community, the only thing lol.

@playstationarusu

Жыл бұрын

Could also learn a thing called "no johns" which means no making excuses for losses

@bsmccrunner4

Жыл бұрын

Also they can learn how to get more money into the scene like Smash does.

@kibbylol

Жыл бұрын

@@playstationarusu say that till u fight an armor king on a floor break stage

He didn't even play smash enough with Kazuya to know his moves? Glad that money from Warner Bros opened his mind to Smash

Riddles also play a lil bit of Tekken tho, so he knows his stuff

Imagine Smash Bro's Kazuya as a Tekken boss, lazer or normal form, launching Stonehenge, 112 into lazer combo, double jumps 2 frame jabs.

that guy is insane with kazuya in smash, kinda glad TMM reacted to it

I was WAITING for this crossover!!!

There will always be a fear of people who can teabag while moving , facts

TMMs reaction to the Masku name was priceless lmao

18:15 That's actually what is called rage drive, when Kazuya gets to 100% he gets rage art and has access to it but can only ue it once. It does a lot of damage and knockback but if he's hit enough or tries to use it too many times he loses it. He also gets a little bit more damage on all of his attacks during rage art. Technically it can last forever, as long as he isn't hit enough or doesn't use it, it's indefinite, so you can't stall it out at all, so it will always be a massive threat as long as he has it. It's essentially a comeback mechanic that is also incredibly powerful

2:49 JAYSUS DOOD! The way you Busted out the laugh caught me off guard

TTM realization to riddles Masku* is amazing. Stuff like is what I love see, other fighting game pros reacting to ssbu players and reacting to how they master their character (like kazuya/riddles) is so perfect. Although there is beef with kazuya in the smash community being busted

Kazuya is one of the most difficult characters in the game to play well. Riddles makes him look easy. Kazuya has very low air mobility, his jump is slow, has some high commitment moves so is very punishable with alot of moves. But he is quite unique in the fact that if your execution is on point, he can be touch of death. Where basically if he gets his hands on u, he can straight up end your stock (one of your lives in smash bros). Riddles in particular is known for being amazing with these fighting game characters in the smash community.

I need more of this

Riddles is a TMM fan for sure,MASKU

3:55 WE GON WALK PAST HIS KOREAN BACK DASH 😭 THIS DUDE IS CRAZY

Glad to see him coming around on how much execution is required for Smash. Especially Melee is ridiculous in that regard. Lots of folks in the fgc don't get it sadly. Wish there was more respect put on each others games. From Tekken over SF and Guilty Gear to Smash.

Kaz is heavy and light at the same time. I dropped kirby and never looked back.

This is the greatest moment in KZread

You should watch the reveal trailer when they first announced kazuya for smash and then the one where Sakurai goes into detail and lists all the moves they brought over

Never thought you'd ever return to this game

The moment he finally sees the name tag is so hilarious

This was an amazing vid ngl

2:47 M A S K U moment.

Then cloud gets down to his knees “kazuya you are the gigachad, don’t kill me” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Please more of this

I hope you reconsider trying smash out. you can use your mixbox on the console. I personally use it and make sure the jump is only inputted with x or y rather than the up dpad.

OH WOW. Didn't know that happen at momocon

You should play a set against Riddle's Kazuya on Tekken, would be cool to see.