Tiny Finland Can Demolish Massive Russia!
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Victoria 3 is not that easy. Patryk sent me a Finland save in which he attempted to acquire the Perkeletankki achievement - For this, he needs to build 100 tanks per week! Today we'll check out what he did wrong and how to fix it!
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00:00 Intro
00:37 What's The Situation?
04:06 High Or Low Taxes? It depends ...
08:40 Fixing The Trade Route Bug
13:03 Working Towards Future Without Russia!
15:23 When Do I know Whether I Will Win A War?
17:11 Know Your Market!
18:57 Don't Eat Unnecessary Attrition!
19:21 Understanding Recovery Rate, Training Rate And Why It Matters!
25:50 Finland Surges!
31:04 Mecha-Finland VS Bad Russia
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Today, we will lead a seemingly weak Finland to grand victories over its overlord! We will focus specifically on how to successfully be a minor market member and some warfare intricacies!
@mamonth6985
Жыл бұрын
I did a similar play with Lanfang using only the 3 provinces of Borneo. But I want to get to 100 literacy I'm at 80 right now and can't believe I can achieve 100% in 30 years. Like I need EVERYONE to have a SoL (at 24 SoL now) so high so they can cover the 50% missing education access just from wealth.
@MegaWunna
Жыл бұрын
I did something similar with Sweden against Russia and Russian lost over 2 million dead while I lost less than 100k wonded and dead all together. But in the middle of the war finland decided to rebell against the Russians so they somehow destroyed the moral of my army. So Russia unfortunately took Lulå in northern Sweden from me after almost 10 years of war.
@blackcoffeebeans6100
Жыл бұрын
I heard many comments of Finland, but never about weak Finland.
I had no idea having troops in reserve was that powerful. I think the notification "X troops in reserve" makes the player feel like they should assign every troop to a general. Classic Paradox UX design. :D
@dnlowithstripes
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, if I get a notification in any pdx game the immediate trigger response is "I have to 'resolve' that", in this case, get those troops a general.
@FrancescoBosco12
Жыл бұрын
Keeping a reserve really is one of the most important things to do when fighting in this game. I found out about it through a reddit post a few weeks ago and it really improved my ability to win wars
@TheStarspire
Жыл бұрын
Do we know whether the reserves need to be in the specific province or can they just be tied to the same HQ as the general?
@FrancescoBosco12
Жыл бұрын
@@TheStarspire AFAIK it has to be in the same province, barracks only reinforce the units of that province.
@TheStarspire
Жыл бұрын
@@FrancescoBosco12 shoot. Gonna have to redraw my army plans
Woah, I'm in complete awe. :O Thanks a lot for taking a look at my save and well... saving it! :D I thought I did something fundamentally wrong that showed effects after a long time. Like not utilizing throughput bonuses enough, or colonizing which is probably expensive but I just missed the costs, or not concentrating all manufacturing in Southern Finland, opting for spreading the wealth. (I mean I built a pretty sizeable clothes factory in Åland of all places... And decided to have government admin and universities at lvl 1 everywhere, only expanding them in the capital since tax capacity never was a problem.) I was sure that all the trade routes were cancelled for years and because of that my economy crashed for good. Also I underestimated the importance of trade, just going with whatever the game proposed. Not gonna lie, when you started building those construction sectors I was like "he's nuts!" and then the line went up anyway. xd When it comes to independence, I was damaging relations because I was salty that I had to suffer for dumb Russian decisions. ;d I knew I could beat Russia in battle*, because they never upgrade their armies and they never get rid of peasant levies. My biggest fear, which you addressed, was losing access to Russian resources. I was sure that I wouldn't be able to make it as independent nation due to huge admin cost of that many trade routes and most likely not being able to join any customs union. And also I thought that trade doesn't matter that much and doesn't provide enough resources. But you proved me very wrong. Thanks! (I hope Paradox is aware of this bug, but just in case, I'll report it on the forums.) *Though I'd just make a big army anyway, just in case. Not being aware at all about the reserve troops mechanic.
@512TheWolf512
Жыл бұрын
How the hell did you get your upper strata THAT LOW on a standard of living?? I have never seen anything like that
@Patryk128pl
Жыл бұрын
@@512TheWolf512 I wish I know, probably it's because most of them were employed in trade centres that weren't making any money whatsoever.
@512TheWolf512
Жыл бұрын
@@Patryk128pl heard what happened this night. those poor 2 victims! hope your politicians don't back down, because otherwise Warshawa will be next...
@TheMentorOfMomos
Жыл бұрын
I still don't understand, more economy of scale means more production but also means less jobs which also means less taxes
An absolute masterclass on not just fixing an economic disaster, but general operation as a junior partner in a customs union and how to excel at war in Victoria 3. Impressive stuff! Of course, it'll help when the war mechanics are actually exposed in the UI, like explaining that the reserves notification isn't a bad thing.
What a poetic way to finish it off. I love how clearly you explain the mechanics behind your decisions. I'm an economics nerd in real life, so I knew immediately where you were going with the taxation level (not saying it was obvious, just that I picked up on it as soon as you pointed it out), but the way you explained it was perfect. Great video.
I love that having units in reserve increases the training rate because it is how real armies work. You need troops away from the front to train new recruits
I have done Perkeletankki too, and found Finland to be a deceptively good start: They start in the Russian market while having twice their literally rate, and better starting laws to boot. You never run out of customers for your furniture, tools, and clothes!
@FwendlyMushwoom
Жыл бұрын
Finland being Russia's puppet is basically just a tax for having access to their massive market. If you're able to build your economy right, it's almost like Russia is really a Finnish colony, since you're taking their raw materials and turning them into industrial goods to sell back to them.
@jespoketheepic
Жыл бұрын
@@FwendlyMushwoom Finland starts as a Personal Union, not a Puppet, so no taxes. Russia will eventually turn domineering to start collecting those taxes, but by then your army quality should outpace them because of the vast literacy gap.
"Russia is literally running their troops into a meat grinder" This game is so spot on historically sometimes.
@kaka72
Жыл бұрын
I mean russia always put their soldiers to the meat grinder always
For anyone who is unaware, you can adjust the ratio of reserve to frontline by assigning more generals. Say if you have 30 barracks, assigning 2 generals will make a 15-15 split, while 3 generals will each have 10 battalions under command. In the early game when the training rate is way lower, sending only one third or even one fifth troops to the frontline can be desirable. Also the enlistment decree is 25% training rate bonus on demand.
The current design favours quality over quantity immensely, because there can only be one battle at one front at the same time. In reality, if Finland would field 20 units and the enemy coalition 600 units, the coalition would just go through the 99 % of borders where Finland did not have their army. I expect the system to get some tweaking as right now it is not the most intuitive thing (yesterday, I lost to Russia as Ottomans despite having less casualties and being the only one who took territory). I did learn a lot today. I knew a bit, but the analysis was top notch, keep them coming. :)
@alexandererhard2516
Жыл бұрын
And the AI sometimes decides to send a truly silly amount of troops to fronts. It gets even more hilarious if they do this stuff oversas, and you Convoy Raid that sea node. A few days ago, I decided to retake Macau from Portugal, Great Britain joined them, and together they sent 200+ Battailions to Macau, where I Convoy Raided them with 80 ships. I won that war, and they had around 4 million combined casualties I think.
@frostonium
11 ай бұрын
@@alexandererhard2516 average Chinese war, but the casualties are reversed
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here in Scandinavia 100+ years later and thinking to myself "35% in taxes? That's pretty good, actually"...
That war reminds me of when I learned how to use entrenchment in HoI4 and held the Phillipines for years with 10-0s
You can now get rid of infamy and debt if you just spark a revolution and switch side. Before switching you might want to consider to change barracks production methods and maybe downsize them a bit... with just a few states should be a fairly easy revolution. And then everybody starts to love you again!
You're not only a great player but a fantastic teacher. It feels like a real lesson in gameplay and economics at the same time, and never gets boring.
The reserve barracks mechanic is a huge game changer. Thank you so much for teaching this mechanic.
OPB: never go full red on diplomatic lens! Me: Ackchyually, infamy is just hard capped at a 1000, so it is completely safe
Loving the disaster saves
You are the best Victoria 3 content creator on KZread. Very helpful content. Keep up the good work
Can you make a video on navies in VIC 3. Just like all other PDX games naval seems like an afterthought and doesnt make sense. Thanks bud great video
Yes! I experienced this same bug in a multiplayer game I played with a friend. They were Chile and I was Argentina; when they became my protectorate (and I joined the french customs union) the previous trade routes they set up could no longer be cancelled yet still cost bureaucracy.
25:00 Winter war in a nutshell
another extremely useful video, thank you
I've learned a lot with this video!
Wow I am amazed by your explanations! I learned so much thank you! You need to be an advisor to paradox to help improve the game and UI
Maybe make a vid showcasing gow to deal with colonies... as in do I have to integrate everything or can I make use of the 10% bonus from exploitation and how to deal with turmoil/radicals from non core states
That commander found his winning cap
Thank you for showing how great reserve troops are
How do the troops in reserve and reinforcement rate work in relation to conscript brigades? I've been mainly playing a game as the USA and the majority of my army is typically made up of conscripts that I have to call up when fighting large wars. Do the conscription centers work in the same way as the barracks when it comes to the reinforcement rate? Or, is the reinforcement rate a benefit of having a standing professional army from using barracks? Also, this seems to be a huge knock against impulsively promoting generals to higher levels. They may be able to command more troops but that's not a good thing if you want to maintain a healthy troop reserve! Thanks!
I had absolutely no idea about reserves, and I was incredibly confused why I'm losing wars even with better PMs. Phenomenal! How much of a reserve should I really keep at each HQ, fraction wise?
ty this is amazing
Gustav Mannerheim would be proud of you, Herr OPB.
Look at that line staying flat! Glory to reserving our armies
Has anyone else had any issue with the regime change war goal? It seems to not be working in my game
If you have 50 million people in Helsinki, the city will be a perfect square.
Ah, i dream about doing that save !!
Are u playing from a nuclear reactor? How is it being so smooth in 1898?
the poor Russian musketmen getting shredded by shrapnel shells and machine gun fire, forming a line right in front of the trench and just dying in waves, unsurprisingly, they do not win that
24:30 He put a hat on because at that moment he became the leader of the leader of the industrialists.
Which ratio of mobilized : reserve troops should I aim for?
The reserve & retraining works also in offensive? Not sure I grasped how the mechanic is implemented. Does it matter if the battle is within the territory of respective HQ, or within a certain state? Grateful for any answer.
@jakobniederer7571
Жыл бұрын
It has to be in the same HQ, and i think it even applies to offensive battles within that
@mihirkapse
Жыл бұрын
The reserves system basically means not to mobilize AND deploy all the units from a given state. The barrack lvl and PM decides what your training rate will be, while deployed units suffer attrition. It does not matter where the deployed troops are kept, or what their orders are. Troops without any orders can take part in defensive battles in their HQ, but not offensive battles. I still assign a general to the reserve troops if I am expecting them to take part in defensive battles and mobilize them in standby as otherwise, they dont get the general bonuses to their stat. TLDR, you dont want to lose more troops from a barracks through battle losses or attrition than what you can train new recruits. And not assigning troops to a front keeps them from suffering attrition losses.
bro really just used actual Combined Arms tactics to win a V3 war
What this really demonstrates is that people are conflating "the economy" with the state budget. They are two different things but there are a lot of people who say they have a "dysfunctional economy" when actually it's just a budget issue and their economy is fine.
This video is amazing
Is there a bug that makes the overlord delete all their ports? It's happened to me twice already. Makes no sense.
Bavarian I think you forgot that Finland STARTS as a puppet of Russia so its not like they launched a diplo play on him its just he never broke free
@OneProudBavarian
Жыл бұрын
It is actually a personal union, but it's super easy to miss since it is also coloured in!
@SebastianRoczz
Жыл бұрын
@@OneProudBavarian is it then why does it say overlord at start of the game?
They definitely still have some kinks with the economy to work out But otherwise it's a great simulator
Certified Perkele moment.
Nices Video!
Man, how do you not get late game lag in 1890’s? My games get destroyed by it at this timepoint.
@tetra6065
Жыл бұрын
They released a patch today that is supposed to help with performance, so you don't need a NASA supercomputer to run the game past 1890. I haven't tested it myself yet but apparently it does help
Hi have you checked Pantiment ? Being one proud Bavarian and all :)
Finish 180,000 Lakes *Laughs in Canadian* Canadian 879,800 Lakes
Thank you, this is what I needed. Playing currently as Persia, getting ready to kick Russian ass.
blessedest timeline
i have NEVRR before seen the so called upper class to be "impoverished" HOW!?
Thank you OPB!
@vadymkoval3775
Жыл бұрын
Маєш файні плейлісти з РімВорлду))
that russia makes me so sad because it Ate Persia, and being that my Victorian Century Playthrough was with Persia and my only real expansion was the Claims in Azerbaijan.
31:50 Literally the verse from this song kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3WMytKRo5ergJs.html 0:50
Alright, how the hell did he manage to get landowners, evangelics and others piss off? I am playing finland and I am struggling with those bojos so much >.
@Patryk128pl
Жыл бұрын
Just build up your economy. I focused mainly on tools early game and a bit on furnitures. Finland is so small that landowners quickly loose a lot of clout and the only thing keeping them relevant are your laws. Same with the church. So just build your economy, and slowly change laws that weaken IGs you don't like, but don't piss them off enough to revolt. (For example Professional Army gives boost to Arms Forces and is way better than Peasant Levies that empower landowners and best of all, purple windmills don't seem to mind when you're changing it. Same with bureaucracy. I've managed to go straight into universal suffrage because of how weak the windmills were, but voting and church laws are probably the toughest to pass because they upset them the most. Aside of course from the tax laws which are hard to get support for.)
@hhdhpublic
Жыл бұрын
@@Patryk128pl right. Am still not sure why the windmills are at 40% clout all of a sudden. Ive spent the whole game building up the economy, avoiding building farms or ranches, with national militia. The only laws i can think that give them boost i can think of are hereditary bureaucrats and landed voting, latter of which i went for with attitude of at least i can get out of oligarchy. It is bit more than frustrating when they had fallen to 20% clout only to suddenly double it. Ugh. Well, ill try again and focus on ridding myself of the windmill laws and instituting lightbulb laws asap.
@hhdhpublic
Жыл бұрын
@@Patryk128pl Alright, got up and just had to check what I had effed up legally and yeah, several laws I had gave huge % of political power to landowners. Decided to restart my campaign and as first order of things move to appointed bureaucrats to give intellegetsia more political power, then move to national militia and finally try to struggle to get private schools to support the intelligetsia even more. Am sure that _this_ time I'll turn my finland into anarcho communist finland, finally.
Norway has more lakes than Finland, albeit a lot smaller
1.0.5: Everyone has rebellions... EXCEPT ME. I tried to make the Sephardi rebel on purpose so I could switch to playing as them and try and win the war. I got their turmoil up to 80%, 90%, pretty much the entire jewish population was radical... nothing.
Every player colonises Sulawesi
@mihirkapse
Жыл бұрын
And the niger delta and the small piece of land next to zanzibar as it is the only land from which you can colonize from the east side of Africa.
I think High Taxes atm is always better. You fuel a gigantic construction industry which is better then a pop focused economy
@alexandererhard2516
Жыл бұрын
It can be bad if you don't have a lot of population in your country and soon make that construction sector obsolete (which, if construction uses a large part of its input goods, can in turn be rather bad for those industries)
@Nota-Skaven
Жыл бұрын
you need someone to buy the goods you're mass producing, that is where low taxes help
@Mizzurani
Жыл бұрын
@@Nota-Skaven yes but at the moment you start which mostly peasent who dont pay shit with low taxes. Lower Taxes is good if you have already a strong Workfoce and Economy
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Russia Ukraine war irl
Hope this new patch fix the game. To much easy and bored late game no mather the country you choose. i tried even Belgium, Egipt and Zulu...
Rather describes why the current mechanics of the game are bad. A single battle for the entire front. Next time demonstrate how to fight a single battle with China on the Russian-Chinese border, stretching from Afghanistan to the Pacific.
@equilintogo5378
Жыл бұрын
I just warred Russia as China and i has to use my great fleet to naval invade in Circassia, Bessarabia, Lithuania
OPB, please never proounce Sikh again
Seeing this title melts my heart Greetings from Ukraine ;)
@oneproudukrainian2063
Жыл бұрын
Скоро прийде наш час зробити цю гру у реальність)
@marktytarenko
Жыл бұрын
@@WeebLord69 hahahah, nice joke mate, ruzzians thought so in Kherson too, before their asses got obliterated
@gabrieldossantos1116
Жыл бұрын
Russia losing to a country a tenth their size is truly an historical game. Poland and Estonia then Finland then Afghanistan now Ukraine. Seems like a national kink at this point
@marktytarenko
Жыл бұрын
@@gabrieldossantos1116 proves, that sometimes size doesn't matter :D Especially, if you are a genocidal fascist un-empire with a crazy dictator and bloodthirsty people, like rUSSIA, for example