Tigst Assefa New Marathon World Record - 2023 at the BMW BERLIN MARATHON

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Tigst Assefa beats the existing marathon world record by more than two minutes. An astonishing performance by the now fastest runner in the world.

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  • @penpaperpower
    @penpaperpower9 ай бұрын

    Insane performance. Best by over 2 minutes. Just wow

  • @runninglightning2053

    @runninglightning2053

    9 ай бұрын

    Just WOW

  • @faith6007
    @faith60079 ай бұрын

    Congratulations! Love from 🇰🇪

  • @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    9 ай бұрын

    Also Congratulations! Elude Kipicoge Love from Ethiopia and Ethiopian's 🇪🇹

  • @saranghaeclinic4904
    @saranghaeclinic49049 ай бұрын

    Incredible speed!! Congrats Assefa. Congrats Ethiopia. It's amazing World record !!

  • @rancizgitau5448
    @rancizgitau54489 ай бұрын

    Great energy we celebrate you Queen from 🇰🇪

  • @biniyamteshome4569

    @biniyamteshome4569

    9 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂she is Ethiopian😂😂😂

  • @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    9 ай бұрын

    Great energy we celebrate you (Eluid kipicoge ) Crown from Ethiopia 🇪🇹

  • @sheilajerop5314

    @sheilajerop5314

    9 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Selectahyarah

    @Selectahyarah

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@biniyamteshome4569,elewa kizungu nanii

  • @Black-lioness

    @Black-lioness

    9 ай бұрын

    Karbu our rein Kings

  • @aleftav12
    @aleftav129 ай бұрын

    😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏 Each time I see this I’m in tears! Wow! This is inspired victory her grace! The pace setter was - the Helper and she even gave the pace setter water - how prophetic!🙏🔥🙌🏾

  • @runninglightning2053

    @runninglightning2053

    9 ай бұрын

    Crazy!!

  • @LinusFeynstein
    @LinusFeynstein9 ай бұрын

    She is sprinting. She had that last kilometre almost as dast as Kipchoge or Bekele in 2019 Congratulations, dear Mrs Assefa.

  • @2011hwalker

    @2011hwalker

    9 ай бұрын

    yeah totally normal, no doping here lol

  • @MrCajole
    @MrCajole9 ай бұрын

    she runs so smoothly!

  • @runninglightning2053

    @runninglightning2053

    9 ай бұрын

    Like kipchoge

  • @marvin2678

    @marvin2678

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@runninglightning2053nah Hes Form is Better

  • @brunokrause

    @brunokrause

    9 ай бұрын

    Not really if you take running biomechanics seriously (which you shouldn’t). Actually the former record holder, Brigid Kosgei, also had “poor” running form. Running biomechanics = pseudoscience.

  • @running.lawyer
    @running.lawyer9 ай бұрын

    This is way more significant than Kipchoge's performance in this marathon.

  • @chessplayer-ms3pn

    @chessplayer-ms3pn

    9 ай бұрын

    who asked

  • @penpaperpower

    @penpaperpower

    9 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@chessplayer-ms3pnthe thing about KZread comments is that you don't only have to answer somebody else's question. You can literally just post something you think

  • @chessplayer-ms3pn

    @chessplayer-ms3pn

    9 ай бұрын

    Which performance though because kipchoge had multiple marathon performances far more significant than this.

  • @Ekzotika-g8w

    @Ekzotika-g8w

    9 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@chessplayer-ms3pnwhat makes Kipchoge’s performances “far more significant than this”? Has he broken a world record by over two minutes?

  • @amirtorhan2762

    @amirtorhan2762

    9 ай бұрын

    Of course it was, she broke the old WR with over 2 minutes

  • @cherivermataehyung
    @cherivermataehyung9 ай бұрын

    Congratulations for New world record 💪💪💪

  • @yetinayetgirum
    @yetinayetgirum9 ай бұрын

    Congraaaa my country Ethiopiaaaaaaaaas 🇪🇹 wooow Great performance....breaking a record with more than 2 minutes

  • @natalyapanteleyeva7062

    @natalyapanteleyeva7062

    9 ай бұрын

    Just incredible!

  • @Barbara-nk9gt
    @Barbara-nk9gt9 ай бұрын

    Congratulations 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 sister from the pearl of Africa🇺🇬

  • @hummingbirdcoins6392
    @hummingbirdcoins63929 ай бұрын

    Faster time than the men’s Olympic marathon winning times from 1976, 1992, and 1996!

  • @hummingbirdcoins6392

    @hummingbirdcoins6392

    9 ай бұрын

    1972. Not 1976.

  • @darelet

    @darelet

    9 ай бұрын

    Shoes have made track records useless. Radcliffes record stood for 16 years, then the super shoes came, and we are to believe every Jane is running huge margins off that mark? Do we conclude Assefa is 5 minutes better than Radcliffe and can always best Radcliffes 16 year record on any and every race?

  • @2011hwalker

    @2011hwalker

    9 ай бұрын

    they have carbon shoes which make any runner 5-10% faster-not to mention she is clearly on EPO.

  • @marvin2678

    @marvin2678

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@2011hwalkerhow do you know ?

  • @andinetmengistie9278

    @andinetmengistie9278

    9 ай бұрын

    @@darelet super shoe may contribute to 0.01% of this performance. The rest 99.99 is coming from hard work. She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she hat third fastest time last year without this shoes.

  • @yesufabdulhakim9326
    @yesufabdulhakim93263 ай бұрын

    Just few years ago a doctor told she might not be able to wallk agian much less compete at the highest levels because of nasty tendon injuries..now look at her .. tearing up the road races back to back .. ...her strides are so smooth and powerful ..way to go Tigist!

  • @dagibab
    @dagibab9 ай бұрын

    እግዚአብሄር ይመስገን much love ❤️ ❤❤ ጀግኒት

  • @thibod07
    @thibod079 ай бұрын

    Amazing performance! An incredible running stride! Well done! 👏👏👏

  • @atedejong5620
    @atedejong56209 ай бұрын

    Insane!!!!!! Congrats, what a world record!!

  • @kevin_dan1984
    @kevin_dan19849 ай бұрын

    Amazing energy beyond human.

  • @2011hwalker

    @2011hwalker

    9 ай бұрын

    thats what EPO will do for you, no chance she is clean sadly.

  • @SmallTownResident
    @SmallTownResident9 ай бұрын

    She switched from 800 meters to road running about 5 years ago and she's now the fastest female marathoner in history. She's truly something else.

  • @2011hwalker

    @2011hwalker

    9 ай бұрын

    she is *on* something else if thats what you mean, she is as clean as flo jo.

  • @marvin2678

    @marvin2678

    9 ай бұрын

    Cheating 😂

  • @andinetmengistie9278

    @andinetmengistie9278

    9 ай бұрын

    She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she that third fastest time last year without this shoes. And dopping test is always must before and after the event. So swallow it, she is the true champion.

  • @2011hwalker

    @2011hwalker

    9 ай бұрын

    lol are you lecturing me on track, ive followed and been involved in the the sport for 25 years. Im very well informed on training protocols and know many current athletes, names that you would instantly recognize. This performance is ultra suspicious and is viewed with suspicion *within* the professional community. Don't assume everyone online is some bonehead. @@andinetmengistie9278

  • @hansdekorver7365

    @hansdekorver7365

    6 ай бұрын

    @@2011hwalker No . She had a pacemaker for almost the entire race and wore super shoes.

  • @zeyo4064
    @zeyo40649 ай бұрын

    thats our girl 👸👸👸 congratulations Ethiopia

  • @Tirelesswarrior
    @Tirelesswarrior9 ай бұрын

    That's incredibly fast...😮😮😮😮 wow... the next person was about 6 minutes behind.😮

  • @szymon6207

    @szymon6207

    9 ай бұрын

    Former 2:14:04 in Chicago !

  • @Tritiuminducedfusion

    @Tritiuminducedfusion

    9 ай бұрын

    6 mins behind 😂🤣😆😆

  • @viktorask
    @viktorask9 ай бұрын

    Most insane that you can start running and experience that kind of joy. Dont wait.

  • @shimeles.fetene.MENLIK317
    @shimeles.fetene.MENLIK3179 ай бұрын

    💠📍CONGRAGULATIONS! 💐DEAREST TIGIST ASSEFA FOR COMING INTO THE OLYMPIC HISTORY BOOKS. 💠📍YOU MADE US FORGET THE SADNESS WE ETHIOPIANS ARE IN. 📍RUNNING THE MARATHON WITH NEW WORLD RECORD UNDER SUCH A CHALLENGING WAVE MAKES YOU A REALLY TESTED OLYMPIC HERO! 💠📍GOD BLESS YOUR 💚 💛❤ STARDOM🌟🌟🌟 IN THE OLYMPIC ARENAS AND YOUR LIFE FOR ETERNITY.

  • @gregoryking4796
    @gregoryking47969 ай бұрын

    What a final push! Amazing form

  • @Kampamba
    @Kampamba9 ай бұрын

    Goooosebumps!!!!❤ wow!

  • @wendsenmengiste1316
    @wendsenmengiste13169 ай бұрын

    Wow congra ❤❤❤ my hero

  • @sergiopontes1977
    @sergiopontes19779 ай бұрын

    Bravo!!!!!!!! Amazing World Record

  • @assegideshetu-be7mb
    @assegideshetu-be7mb9 ай бұрын

    congrats. proud of my country ( Ethiopian) runner. very well .

  • @cassiewhyte3284
    @cassiewhyte32847 ай бұрын

    Phenomenal woman

  • @coolnassa1420
    @coolnassa14209 ай бұрын

    She is very humble,and a great smile and strong..well Done for her record

  • @miheratuyohannes8056
    @miheratuyohannes80569 ай бұрын

    Wow Congraaaa!!

  • @ingvarkey7177
    @ingvarkey71778 ай бұрын

    Simply the best!

  • @fredbantu3694
    @fredbantu36949 ай бұрын

    That was amazing.

  • @fredschrader1014
    @fredschrader10149 ай бұрын

    Times are getting closer between men and women once ran 304.56 so i learned how hard it is 🎉

  • @thortessem271
    @thortessem2719 ай бұрын

    Congrats

  • @vittorio4866
    @vittorio48669 ай бұрын

    And she is beautiful

  • @yohanneskidanu2627
    @yohanneskidanu26279 ай бұрын

    Congratulation my sister❤

  • @user-of6mv1gj6i
    @user-of6mv1gj6i9 ай бұрын

    Incredible

  • @1inMilli
    @1inMilli9 ай бұрын

    Best performance 😱

  • @FITSUMSOLOMON-dz5cm
    @FITSUMSOLOMON-dz5cm9 ай бұрын

    My hero

  • @michaelmbata8582
    @michaelmbata85829 ай бұрын

    Congratulations

  • @monicalorenzo6035
    @monicalorenzo60359 ай бұрын

    Infinitas gracias a Dios, Felicitaciones, Bendiciones, amén 🙏🏻👏🙏🏻👏🙏🏻

  • @sblgm4252
    @sblgm42529 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤ እንኳን ደስ አለሽ/አለን

  • @arvinmanasan9580
    @arvinmanasan95809 ай бұрын

    What a pace

  • @abh6963
    @abh69639 ай бұрын

    ❤❤

  • @abebetadesse4582
    @abebetadesse45829 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @brunokrause
    @brunokrause9 ай бұрын

    Heel striker! 💪🏼

  • @saramissgina3313
    @saramissgina33139 ай бұрын

    Ethiopia 🇪🇹❤

  • @runstant1
    @runstant19 ай бұрын

    absolutely astounding !! a shame that it wasn't on tv !

  • @KgosietsileMothekwane

    @KgosietsileMothekwane

    9 ай бұрын

    Pay dstv it was there

  • @piyuuzblox210
    @piyuuzblox2109 ай бұрын

    Just supreme performance. Hats off to her. Commentary was just superb. Who is he?

  • @marziobass
    @marziobass9 ай бұрын

    Holy shit!

  • @gershoncms
    @gershoncms9 ай бұрын

    When they got to the medals ceremony all the other 5 winners climbed on to the podium with some difficulties. Obviously suffering from pain that comes after marathon run. She hoped onto the podium Like she just came from yoga class😊

  • @michaelyemariamlij2633
    @michaelyemariamlij26339 ай бұрын

    Jegna nesh 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @robinbauer1975
    @robinbauer19759 ай бұрын

    Even greater than Eliuds WR of last year

  • @georgethecat2011
    @georgethecat20119 ай бұрын

    Omg!

  • @alemuber4077
    @alemuber40779 ай бұрын

    What a heroine athlete her name is Tigist Assefa the Womens Marathon World record snatched by a winning time of 2:11:52

  • @abdinmohammed6171
    @abdinmohammed61719 ай бұрын

    This is Ethiopia❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ yessssss bravo

  • @wercleychaves3362
    @wercleychaves33629 ай бұрын

    👏👏👏🙏

  • @szymon6207

    @szymon6207

    9 ай бұрын

    Do Next Record Is 2:10:00 ?

  • @Truth-fully.
    @Truth-fully.2 ай бұрын

    She doesn't even look tired enough 😅🎉

  • @user-ls8tk1rf6r
    @user-ls8tk1rf6r9 ай бұрын

    Gobez yenha chigjina lighi❤❤❤

  • @sanra167
    @sanra1679 ай бұрын

    😢😢❤❤❤

  • @efremtamirat1288
    @efremtamirat12889 ай бұрын

    🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹❤❤❤❤

  • @David.soares
    @David.soares9 ай бұрын

    In the same day of this epic running, I bit my record half-marathon in 13minutes, first half marathon 1.32, Sunday 24 September 1.19,36. So funny!!!!

  • @jozefkaterla8219
    @jozefkaterla82199 ай бұрын

    Wow just stunning, congrats. I wonder what will first fall: Men under 2h or Women's under 2h10m?

  • @LAM98200

    @LAM98200

    9 ай бұрын

    kipchoge ran sub 2h a couple yrs ago

  • @peterkrishna2753
    @peterkrishna27539 ай бұрын

    No one talk about the great pacemake for tigist… he his reason she broke the record with significant remarks

  • @mvab3252
    @mvab32529 ай бұрын

    🌾💚💛🕊❤️🤗💪🏽

  • @angieperezimbernon8347
    @angieperezimbernon83479 ай бұрын

    Gottes Segen ❤

  • @francosuperbo3790
    @francosuperbo37909 ай бұрын

    Ethiopian don' t sweat after 42km amazing😅🤔🤔

  • @natalyapanteleyeva7062

    @natalyapanteleyeva7062

    9 ай бұрын

    Watching in awe from the sidelines. She looks like she's ready to run another one back-to-back.

  • @AlexTbro1972
    @AlexTbro19729 ай бұрын

    You have to be patient to lengthen the world record

  • @sisayhirpa5004
    @sisayhirpa50049 ай бұрын

    ጀግና

  • @andinetmengistie9278
    @andinetmengistie92789 ай бұрын

    super shoe may contribute to 0.01% of this performance. The rest 99.99 is coming from hard work. She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she hat third fastest time last year without this shoes.

  • @shimeles.fetene.MENLIK317
    @shimeles.fetene.MENLIK3179 ай бұрын

    💠📍የማራቶን ሬከርድ ሰባሪ ታላቅ ጀግኒታችን ያገሬ ልጅ ትእግስት አሰፋ 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 እንኳን ደስ አለሽ 💐!!! እንኳን ደስ አለን!!! ያስመዘገብሽው ታላቅ ድል ያለንበትን የሰቆቃ ማእበል ለደቂቃዎችም ቢሆን አስረስቶኛል። እግዚአብሔር ይመስገን። 💠📍የኢትዮጵያ💚💛❤ አምላክ በሁሉም በሚያስፈልግሽ ሁሉ አብዝቶ ይባርክሽ። በእጅጉ በርቺልን በጀመርሸው ጀግንነት።

  • @acasualviewer5861

    @acasualviewer5861

    9 ай бұрын

    you guys have the coolest alphabet.. and now the fastest female marathoner of all time

  • @blancamarin5382
    @blancamarin53829 ай бұрын

    Vamos profe Raúl. Sha-ha presente. México.

  • @daplaya20
    @daplaya209 ай бұрын

    So how much is this driven by this new exclusive shoe which we will only be abke to order next week? That shoe js revolutionary

  • @darelet

    @darelet

    9 ай бұрын

    Shoes have made track records useless. Radcliffes record stood for 16 years, then the super shoes came, and we are to believe every Jane is running huge margins off that mark? Do we conclude Assefa is 5 minutes better than Radcliffe and can always best Radcliffes 16 year record on any and every race?

  • @runninglightning2053
    @runninglightning20539 ай бұрын

    Best moment in running history’

  • @user-xo1zp2fe9m
    @user-xo1zp2fe9m9 ай бұрын

    Ethiopia 🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹 Ethiopia Foq Foq Kaf bay hagare 🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹

  • @abdenurmohammed3277
    @abdenurmohammed32779 ай бұрын

    God bless Ethiopian ❤😊

  • @clydesharman2053
    @clydesharman20539 ай бұрын

    Very impressed Let’s see if she can win marathons in her 40’s like Kipchoge

  • @Posark
    @Posark9 ай бұрын

    Wow I remember when the big news was women’s sub 2:20 traditionally considered elite men time. The times have definitely changed with the times!

  • @darelet

    @darelet

    9 ай бұрын

    Shoes have made track records useless. Radcliffes record stood for 16 years, then the super shoes came, and we are to believe every Jane is running huge margins off that mark? Do we conclude Assefa is 5 minutes better than Radcliffe and can always best Radcliffes 16 year record on any and every race?

  • @andinetmengistie9278

    @andinetmengistie9278

    9 ай бұрын

    @@darelet She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she that third fastest time last year without this shoes. So swallow it, she is the true champion.

  • @nickwilsonxc
    @nickwilsonxc9 ай бұрын

    🧃💉🍑

  • @addisababa7677
    @addisababa76779 ай бұрын

    Marathon was born in Ethiopia 🇪🇹 🇪🇹 🇪🇹

  • @reyjavi9060
    @reyjavi90609 ай бұрын

    If I were her, I'll take a drug test right away, like today, just to set the record straight. Congratulations.

  • @jensmith3719

    @jensmith3719

    9 ай бұрын

    it is compulsory anyway,

  • @reyjavi9060

    @reyjavi9060

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jensmith3719 Very good, thank you.

  • @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    9 ай бұрын

    Congratulations Eluid Kipicoge of Kenya 🇰🇪 and Tigist Asefa of Ethiopia 🇪🇹

  • @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    @user-gb4nz4tk1g

    9 ай бұрын

    You are New !! it is mandatory and Compulsory before and after running 🏃‍♂️ Congratulations both men and women winners 🏆

  • @nilsp9426
    @nilsp94269 ай бұрын

    It was about time to show the men that the gap is smaller than we thought, if women are given a good shot at excellence.

  • @jovanleon7
    @jovanleon722 күн бұрын

    And she still looks really good. She's not even appeared skinny let alone looking like a skeleton like Kipchoge.

  • @giuseppelaforza2749
    @giuseppelaforza27499 ай бұрын

    Faster than a Ferrari.

  • @ephremtamirat6280
    @ephremtamirat62809 ай бұрын

    🐐♑🐑🐐

  • @tamratgebriamriam1361
    @tamratgebriamriam13619 ай бұрын

    We are Ethiopin we are the best runner in the planet ❤❤of earth period

  • @ivan73ivan73
    @ivan73ivan739 ай бұрын

    I did something extraordinary. good good good

  • @tbrinkmann7731
    @tbrinkmann77319 ай бұрын

    Let's all wait for the blood sample

  • @Pianoman1234321
    @Pianoman12343219 ай бұрын

    Women's distance world records have been plummeting recently. Might we see a sub-2:10 before too long?? Obviously it's still almost another 2 minutes away, but with how this record in particular has been exploding, who knows what's on the horizon?

  • @darelet

    @darelet

    9 ай бұрын

    Shoes have made track records useless. Radcliffes record stood for 16 years, then the super shoes came, and we are to believe every Jane is running huge margins off that mark? Do we conclude Assefa is 5 minutes better than Radcliffe and can always best Radcliffes 16 year record on any and every race?

  • @Pianoman1234321

    @Pianoman1234321

    9 ай бұрын

    @darelet The shoes help her run faster on the day, absolutely, but honestly I'm not sure that it accounts for quite that large a margin. But, in a way, I think the shoes did help her drop the time so significantly in a different way, which is help her stay fresher and recover faster in her training, which allows athletes to run quality workouts more frequently. Many athletes haves attested to this. So yeah in a way you're probably right that the shoes had a LOT to do with it, if we take into account both ways in which they're helping.

  • @andinetmengistie9278

    @andinetmengistie9278

    9 ай бұрын

    @@darelet She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she had third fastest time last year without this shoes. And dopping test is always must before and after the event. So swallow it, she is the true champion.

  • @augustusfreeman4032
    @augustusfreeman40325 ай бұрын

    Marathon 🇪🇹 Tigist Assefa: 2:11:53 (Women's World Record) 🇨🇳 Zhu-hong Li: 2:10:46 (Boy's 17 Years Old Age Group World Record) No Biological Difference between Men and Women though right? 🤔

  • @francosuperbo3790
    @francosuperbo37909 ай бұрын

    Just a simple flash where are antidoping control!!!

  • @dos2544

    @dos2544

    9 ай бұрын

    Not Ethiopian, may be yours

  • @francosuperbo3790

    @francosuperbo3790

    9 ай бұрын

    Ethiopian dont' sweat After 42km it's amazing

  • @yehenewtaye4923
    @yehenewtaye49239 ай бұрын

    Its now the time women run with men ...the gaps are narrowing gosh

  • @cliffkennell3854
    @cliffkennell38549 ай бұрын

    Super shoes. Super performance. Super drugs. What a run. We all know she is doped to the hilt but what an amazing time.

  • @darelet

    @darelet

    9 ай бұрын

    Shoes have made track records useless. Radcliffes record stood for 16 years, then the super shoes came, and we are to believe every Jane is running huge margins off that mark? Do we conclude Assefa is 5 minutes better than Radcliffe and can always best Radcliffes 16 year record on any and every race?

  • @teoethio

    @teoethio

    9 ай бұрын

    Your mom

  • @andinetmengistie9278

    @andinetmengistie9278

    9 ай бұрын

    @@darelet She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she that third fastest time last year without this shoes. And dopping test is always must before and after the event. So swallow it, she is the true champion.

  • @darelet
    @darelet9 ай бұрын

    Shoes have made track records useless. Radcliffes record stood for 16 years, then the super shoes came, and we are to believe every Jane is running huge margins off that mark? Do we conclude Assefa is 5 minutes better than Radcliffe and can always best Radcliffes 16 year record on any and every race?

  • @andinetmengistie9278

    @andinetmengistie9278

    9 ай бұрын

    She had been prepared more than 10 months for this WR. She had upto 200km per week training. It is not as easy breaking world record because of the shoes. Don't forget she had third fastest time last year without this shoes. And dopping test is always must before and after the event. So swallow it, she is the true champion.

  • @markzambarda9617
    @markzambarda96179 ай бұрын

    Sadly not believable.

  • @Mizernyi
    @Mizernyi9 ай бұрын

    Were are the transgenders?

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