In my opinion, tier 3 is the most important tier… mostly cause that’s gonna be the majority of the cities you take. Any barbarian city will be max of t3, and most AI enemies will bleed their own cities dry building units. T3 cities are just the most convenient. Also you gotta love the Cataphract archers. They are the Immortals of this game

@qualityoldgames7721

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Agreed, especially if one plays as Julii or other faction that takes often Barbarian cities. The "civilized" factions tend to have higher tier cities later in the game, so imo there T4 could be quite useful as well :)

Basic elephants can also be useful for battering which is kinda nice

@qualityoldgames7721

27 күн бұрын

A valid point .After it they are quite tired though :) Thanks for the comment.

Love the rome total war content, I'm glad people still play this game

@qualityoldgames7721

26 күн бұрын

It is definitely a quality old game ;) Thanks for the comment.

Afaik bull warrios can stand their ground against urban cohort. I think they would cut chosen swords easily.

@palacehaunter5442

27 күн бұрын

They Lpse to First cohort legionaries, spartans,sacred bands, bronze shield pikemen of pontus and silber shield pikemen (although they beat silver legionaries). They also lose to plus 2 exp berserkers and even armoured hoplites so they are goos but not great

@qualityoldgames7721

27 күн бұрын

Perhaps if player controls them but in my experience they are really really overpriced :) Thanks for the comment.

@qualityoldgames7721

27 күн бұрын

@@palacehaunter5442 Valid points :) Thanks for the comment.

@SSR2902

27 күн бұрын

you should look at gaul vs spain army battel on this chanel. they where not beating chosen swordmen easaly

20:45 - Bro. Scutarii beats Principes. And are the basically the first \ only decent regular infantry Spain has. S tier all the way, as in "spam these as Spain and never look back".

@qualityoldgames7721

25 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Not sure I agree though I concede that we have different playstyles ;D Principes have -2 to attack for both pila and melee but +4 defense and +2 morale. I agree that this is the only proper infantry from Barracks but why not to go for Bull Warriors?

@Xander77Ru

25 күн бұрын

@@qualityoldgames7721 Like you said, Bull warriors are way overpriced and take 2 turns to recruit. You *can't* make Bull Warriors you line infantry.

@qualityoldgames7721

25 күн бұрын

@@Xander77Ru Hmm. I still maintain that Scutarii are worse even with BWs being expensive and taking 2 turns. I guess we have to agree to disagree here ;D Thanks for the comment.

Im surprised the Foresters did not make the highest tier! They are essentially a win condition for the Gaulish campaign.

@qualityoldgames7721

19 күн бұрын

That is a valid point. At the same time, imo they suffer greatly from 2-turn training time, high price and relatively weak staying power vs infantry :) Thanks for the comment.

@danialnassirnia1645

19 күн бұрын

@qualityoldgames7721 the two-turn recruit is definitely a huge deal, and for me, a big turn off for alot of such units. But with Foresters, because of the nature of the unit; once they are trained, they rarely need to be replaced. For the same reason, I don't really mind their lack of hand to hand. They perform their role so effectively that they rarely need it.

@qualityoldgames7721

19 күн бұрын

@@danialnassirnia1645 Thanks for the comment. Valid points. :)

The long shield cavalry shines in campaign because both spain and roman faction have shit cavalry

@qualityoldgames7721

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. A valid point. You have to do with what you have :)

Depending on your play style I'm pretty sure Persian cavalry are better than cataphract archers...they're so much quicker and still have the long range and I think good stamina perk so they're more good at doing their jobs as horse archers while cataphract archers you just want them to use their ammo so they'll engage in melee

@SSR2902

27 күн бұрын

the funny thing is that cataphract archers have soo much armor that they dont need to do the catambrian circle so they can co serve energy

@qualityoldgames7721

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. That might very well be true. At the same time, imo Persian cav does not do that well in melee. Thus, when it runs out of ammo, it is not that good anymore. :)

@qualityoldgames7721

27 күн бұрын

@@SSR2902 A valid point :) Thanks for the comment.

@ippolit4262

27 күн бұрын

@@SSR2902 agreed but I'm assuming people win multiplayer battles with Parthia by spamming Persian Cav so they must be useful...otherwise I don't understand why anyone would ever play Parthia over Armenia except for the elephants

@SSR2902

27 күн бұрын

@@ippolit4262 In both CWB and 31k you can only have 2 horse archers so spamming horse archers in not possible. Parthia haze camel cataphracts witch means that can have 8 super heavy cavalery units ore just have some camel cataphracts witch in the CWB cavalery, skirmish heavy meta where the money for the infantery is just the leftover camel cataphracts are really strong. plus with the only 6 of the same type of unit Armenia can only have 6 archer units as that is the only skirmisher units that they have meanwhile Parthia can have the full 8 skirmisher units that are allowed. in 31k you dont see anything but the romans, macedon, greece, seleucid and carthage so no point in taling about them there.

Roman factions can recruit ballistas at tier 3 too (or am I brainwashed?) But yeah they are shitty compared to onagers Edit: I checked and roman and greece factions have ballistas at tier 3

@qualityoldgames7721

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for the info. It seems I was relying too much on the Architect's office site and ofc as I don't make the Siege units too often I missed that :)

All cav archers are S tier by default. 😁 Just tells of how broken that unit type is in this game.

@qualityoldgames7721

26 күн бұрын

Agreed on that :D Thanks for the comment.

@Salmarmar

26 күн бұрын

Tbf they were broken irl too

@qualityoldgames7721

25 күн бұрын

@@Salmarmar True :) Thanks for the comment.