If this video doesn’t contain the phrase ‘Juggernauts and crosses’, I will be disappointed.

@jamesmccallum8641

4 ай бұрын

Ayyyy, only got into diplomacy due to your video. Nice to see you here

@DiploStrats

4 ай бұрын

This is why you make the KZread big bucks

Now I’m picturing a seven-player tic-tac-toe variant with diplomacy-style press and it sounds genuinely interesting

Loving the in depth commentary! We don’t even get the first “O” on the board until about 1/3 of the way through the coverage at 8:10, demonstrating just how much depth there can be in the opening turns!

Literally 1914.

Joshua figured out that the only way to win is not to play...

finally someone's talking about this variant! gets so little coverage on diplomacytube

@DiploStrats

4 ай бұрын

Considering how widely played it is, it's ridiculous how few videos there are on it! I'm going to go bug Floridaman to make a strategy guide.

Your commentary is flawless, I kind of forgot the absurdity of the topic halfway through. I applaud your ability to never break character.

It seems that this variant requires an insane poker face, I can see why you would enjoy it Captain

As the first player, I will always agree to demilitarize the center square on turn 1, since opening in the corner leads to a forced win if there is no response in the center.

Very fun to look at noughts and crosses through the lens of diplomacy.

So interesting, I love your content! I've been playing this niche variant called "Star Wars Battlefront II" recently, maybe you could do a video on that?

@DiploStrats

4 ай бұрын

Ooh, that's a classic variant (quite an old one at this point too!). Unfortunately I think the player base prefers playing it gunboat, I joined a game and tried to negotiate with a super battle droid and they just shot me

Can't believe I just watched a 20 minute analysis of a Naughts and Crosses game. Brillliant

Glad you’re uploading again! Definitely my favorite diplomacy channel

@easytiger6570

4 ай бұрын

Mountainchad spotted 🗿

Would love to see this variant played in a tournament format. It'd be incredibly interesting to see how players' strategies evolve over time, especially against different people. In such a deep game, I wonder if the center power-play, the coy side, or the cunning corner emerges as the primary opening?

Epic battle! Another one of those players who constantly blame others for breaking alliances when they actually sneakily set up the backstab for you. Really high level tactics on display here

Pretty decent strategy if you’re playing first is to take opposite corners either side of the middle and then either the corner they didn’t get or the middle Player two will almost always be on the defensive and actually has very few options to win if player one starts by taking a corner rather than the middle Player two really only can win if player one makes a bad play or does not use player 2’s move The fact that in this version players moves cannot bounce makes this quite the challenge once you’re in a bad position

My takeaway from this video is that the diplomacy in Diplomacy is completely fake and you should only play the board 🤣

18:00 - in my opinion, you should've forgone your build in the right middle support center and instead moved from the top left center into the top middle support center, BUT also not forgetting to support that move from your middle middle support center. That way the top middle support center, where X was, would not have enough support holds, since the opponent already has taken their build action and didn't have enough to hold their support center. With nowhere to retreat, the X would've been destroyed for next phase. After that, you would've have the top middle, middle middle and bottom middle support center and form the unbreakable stalemate line, and win the game.

@DiploStrats

4 ай бұрын

God, I can't believe I missed this. You're absolutely right, that would have been a forced win. That said, I think it's much easier to spot strategies like this in hindsight - this game is unbelievably tense and the pressure has a tendency to cloud strategic vision at points. Not letting that get to me is something I really need to work on.

🤓You lost turn 1, playing Ob1 leads to a forced lost as Xb2, Oa1(Only move), Xc1, and now X has 2 opportunities to make 3 in a row on c2 and a3. Edit: The only way to keep the DMZ was to play Oa1, every other move loses to a forced sequence.

@someknave

2 ай бұрын

Oa1 also leads to a forced loss sequence. Xc1 forces Oc2, and then Xa3 has two threats to block in a2 and b2. I'm afraid as the O player, insisting on a demilitarised zone, plays into the hands of the X player. If you aren't willing to stab on turn 1 the X player can always force a win.

@voterat4749

2 ай бұрын

@@someknave how could I forget, u right

That was a genius video, well done!

At first I thought you could attack spaces and support dislodge on the board

This is the most overthought game of Tic-Tac-Toe over

Wait you're from the UK? Get well soon 🙏

@DiploStrats

3 ай бұрын

I've been told it's incurable :'(

@easytiger6570

3 ай бұрын

@@DiploStrats I'm so sorry to hear that. But hey, we got to look at the bright side of things - at least you're not french

You are not a good XO strategist. Like, at all.

@DiploStrats

4 ай бұрын

It took me years of practice to get good at standard Diplomacy, I think it might take a while to master this one too. But I'm hoping one day I can achieve grandmaster level!

Tic tac toe is trash, if your a pro it will only end in a draw.

@wistlov9248

4 ай бұрын

You are not wrong, but I think he knew that

@DiploStrats

4 ай бұрын

People say the same thing about Diplomacy!

@RacoonLord-mt9hv

4 ай бұрын

@@DiploStrats Fair

Gonna have to try this variant sometime