My desktop email program of choice.

i´m moving to thunderbird because the "new Outlook" is driving me crazy

@SpencerCourtis

9 күн бұрын

Microsoft is becoming more and more encroaching, forcefully, and cluttering - privacy intimidation too. Linux and LibreOffice and Thunderbird may be our only choice for both private and business use.

Just started usingThunderbird today on my Windows PC. I love it so far. Really accessible for someone like me who is blind. Lots of keyboard shortcuts, works with all screen readers and its a super clean interface and not cluttered at all.

One subject you did not touch upon in this video: Some people here made already comments that they use TB for multiple accounts. Also for me the easy handling of a number of mailaccounts with different mail adresses is a very strong point in favour of TB.

@JV-pu8kx

6 ай бұрын

Calendars, too.

@StratBoss

Ай бұрын

@@JV-pu8kx That's what I'm interested in 🙂. I don't mind going online for emails but if I want to see 2 or 3 Outlook calendars overlaid with another from Gmail, can I do that in Thunderbird? Outlook also sends me a daily 'agenda' email, does Thunderbird have that feature?

@StratBoss

Ай бұрын

@@JV-pu8kx Just what I need! Can you overlay multiple Outlook and Gmail calendars and does it have the daily ageda email feature?

Great to see a new vid for this great client. There are many vids out there, but all with old versions of Thunderbird, so thank you! I've been using Thunderbird for many years and would be lost without it. I have 7 email account of varying types and domains, and Thunderbird works with them all! If anything, its over rich with functions.

Glad that you mentioned that TB is platform agnostic. Works just as well in MacOS as Windows. Despite all the prognosticators talking about the demise of TB, it has been rejuvenated and better than ever. Some may view its UI as busy, but it seems so much easier to sort and search and display than newer email clients.

@Wol747

17 күн бұрын

How about Linux?

Way back when I used Eudora for my desktop email program. But when Qualcomm stopped supporting it I needed something else. I switched to Thunderbird after I became aware of it when I was contracting to a local university and found their IT department using it. I’ve never looked back. Best email software out there.

@Joan_Garcia

6 ай бұрын

Yes, I remember Eudora which several NYC companies included. It was easy for me to train users on and use myself until it was discontinued.

@raylopez99

3 ай бұрын

Outlook for the PC is just as good but whatever works for you.

Wholeheartedly agree. Have used it for more than ten years now.

Thank you for this excellent presentation of Thunderbird. As a 20 years+ user of this software, I even learned some tricks...

Love Thunderbird, have been using it for years.

nice clean video. Have used Thunderbird for years and by far the most robust and consistent email client.

What a great presentation. I have had to leave Outlook and have switched to Thunderbird. Thanks for a great presentation. Your speed of presentation and clarity of speaking is very helpful! Thanks!

Been using Thunderbird here for many years. Hard to bat. I also use it's calendar and it syncs with my Apple iPhone calendar. Other than Outlook which is expensive, Thunderbird has all the functions one could wish for.

Another great video, Leo. Thank you! I've used Thunderbird in the past and the ONLY reason I stuck with the desktop version of Outlook is because it's part of the Office 2019 suite and has amazing autocorrect and autofill functions that I have never seen anywhere else. MS did a lot of things wrong and plain annoying, but the two things they got right were these two functions. If Thunderbird had them, I'd drop Outlook in a heartbeat. Perhaps, there's a third party extension that is just as good that can be added to Thunderbird?

I use Thunderbird. After messing about with MS Outlook, Thunderbird is brilliant.

@raylopez99

3 ай бұрын

Good. I use MS Outlook which does the same thing but in a proprietary format. One thing though: don't use POP but IMAP as our host says. If you use POP with Thunderbird or Outlook (which I once did) it will sync with your online email but delete the emails after downloading them, which is probably not what you want.

@Goodshaft

2 ай бұрын

HERE HERE..................TRUE Statement !

I love how once all the correspondents have all been filtered into folders with a filter rule, (well worth doing, takes a bit of time and patience) you can set retention policy for each folder that overrides the global retention policy. For those corespondents that like to spam, you can either keep the emails for a set period or set the maximum age of an email before it is deleted. If there’s an email you may want to keep and look at later you can just star it so that it isn’t deleted until the star is removed. I love Thunderbird. The open source project really deserves funding.

A Great program. When I was at university it was great for saving all my correspondance. One of which saved me having to take a course.

I've been using Microsoft outlook on window since it was released. I have yet to find any email client that has the powerful rules /filtering of outlook. It allows me to filter emails from my many email account into folders based on any criteria of email headers, content subject or whatever and put them in folders, forward anywhere, sent texts or almost anything. For decades there have been no Android or IOS email apps that have even a small fraction of these features including Thunderbird. I wonder why no developer has just taken the desktop outlook features and replicated them. That person/company could sell millions of copies!

A few years ago I migrated both Firefox&Thunderbird from a Windows laptop to a Linux Minipc; this went very smoothly...I only had to change a path in the profile.ini to the Linux-path...started Thunderbird and voila....everything was there and new mails were coming in.

@PaulG.x

5 ай бұрын

I do a fresh install of my Linux distro when every new version comes out and all it takes to migrate Thunderbird is to copy the profile directory and rename it with the name of the clean default profile. The latest version will do this automatically if you browse to the backed up profile , but only if the contents are below a certain size. If it detects that it is too large it will suggest you do the migration manually.

Leo, Great video as always, so thank you. Thunderbird is a program I have used since it was first available. It is wonderful and does everything I ask for. I have 5 email accounts that I access through it and it works flawlessly. The current version provides all kinds of options that you do not get with other email clients. I can create special local folders with any name I wish and simply drag and drop emails into them to be able to archive (or at least store them for a long time for later reference). There are also a lot an add-ins available for it as well. The calendar menu is very handy and can provide access to just about any calendar format available. What it is missing is a solid way to back things up. I use two different back up program, both are free. These backs permit me to , if required, reinstall Windows completely, and then using the backup, fully recreate all of my Thunderbird data, so that when I open it up, it looks just like it did before I had to reinstall Windows. Perhaps you can address this weakness.

@Sonya_Makepeace

6 ай бұрын

I've got 7 accounts. Na, na, na na, na.😁

@PaulG.x

5 ай бұрын

Just back up the profile directory , that's all you have to do. It's all in there.

thanks! very good infos

I've used it for many years. Easily the best email client out there.

@Jack_Callcott_AU

4 ай бұрын

I used Thunderbird for years and liked it a lot, but when I installed Windows 10 I just started using the Microsoft Mail app, which is far from perfect. I just found out tonight from Ask Leo that Thunderbird still exists; I'm beside myself with happiness. I can't wait to get it installed, up and running.. THANKS LEO !

Usually I use Evolution and a long time back also KMail and Thunderbird. Ony Debian I went on evolution, but after getting another laptop and setting it up, I looked at the newest thunderbird and I liked it. So I do think since about 2 hours if I should go back to thunderbird!

I migrated from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird (yes, that long ago) so that I could set up and use contact groups, which Live didn’t have. Never had any reason to consider changing away from Thunderbird.

Hi Leo, really informative videos you got. I hope to get some help from you regarding Thunderbird. I have aliases (additional emals) in my primary Outlook email. Outlook offers upto 6 additional alias emails which can be deleted and new ones created. It's a great feature if you want to use a proper email but also have the option to completely delete it. With Thunderbird, I am not able to send emails using these alias emails. Please help.

Thank you for the video. You know how it's super hard to sort email in gmail by date or sender. Do you think that Thunderbird could be used to download gmail emails and then sort them in Thunderbird for mass deletion using IMAP?

Ive been watching your videos for a few decades. If i remember correctly it was a cnet video i watched (a long time ago). Was very happy to see you again recently. At first I wondered if you were the same Leo. But soon realized that time has passed for all of us. Glad we are all alive and healthy. Now onto my question. Does Thunderbird also save attachments? I like that it can be opened with notepad without being a proprietary format. Just wondered if attachments also can be preserved. Thanks!

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

a) I've never been on cnet. That's the other Leo (Laporte). :-) b) Absolutely thunderbird saves attachments. Attachments are actually encoded as plain text in the email protocol(s).

@GreenOcean1990

6 ай бұрын

@@askleonotenboom Yes you are 100 percent correct. Thanks for clarifying! I just now googled and my brain is once again back to normal. I now like Thunderbird again. And thanks so much for answering my question and correcting my mind.

Thanks Leo. For years, Thunderbird has been the best for reviewing all my domain email accounts using POP settings on my computer. Plus it's a free program. I've viewed several paid email prograns and they don't have many features that Thunderbird has.

I use Gmail for all my email. However, I would like to set up another email for more important/private emails. As an older person I am finding that I really need spell check and grammar check as I do make more mistakes than I used to. Also, I do like to add emojis. Are those features available in Thunderbird?

Hi Leo, thank you for your sharing. How to you config your email account in the client (POP or IMAP)?

@askleonotenboom

Ай бұрын

IMAP

Thanks! This video came at a perfect time for us! Outlook had just deleted some of our emails, so we have lost faith in it and are looking for a new way to manage our emails (and have archived copies on our own computer). We had just started setting up Thunderbird when your video dropped! So am I right in thinking that we need to drag the inbox folders into the 'local' folder in order to make an actual true archive that has no risk of being deleted?

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

I would not "drag the inbox folders" literally. What you probably want to do (and perhaps mean) is to drag emails from within the Outlook tree of folders (of which its inbox is one) to your local folder.

@kersi-sandiego6036

6 ай бұрын

"...Outlook had just deleted some of our emails,", ??????? Please elaborate. Thank you.

@shadowminister4090

6 ай бұрын

Funnily, I was looking into Thunderbird just last night. I don't use a Desktop computer much now and was searching for Thunderbird on Andriod. From what I understand, there is a project to convert K-9 Mail into Thunderbird, but it's a work in progress. I used to use Thunderbird on an old Linux machine my techy son set up for me, when Microsoft stopped supporting an old version of Windows. I never really understood it. I now use Gmail (2 accounts) but still maintain an old Yahoo account. I had thought of forwarding everything through one Gmail account to simply my life, but maybe eventually once the Andriod project is complete, Thunderbird could a better option? What attracts me to Thunderbird is Folders. I don't like Gmail's Labels and the secondary backup you speak of. It seems a good idea. Thanks Leo

Still using TB version 102.2.1 (64-bit) on a PC. At one time I upgraded back when the next version was released but was having issues (don't remember exactly) so I reverted and have been shy about upgrading it ever since You show version 115.4.1 Any known issues?

Thanks for this helpful video. A question: Can Thunderbird be used if you have more than one email account, or are you limited to a single account?

@askleonotenboom

5 ай бұрын

As many as you like.

It would be nice if they could finally solve the line_wrap issue. I'm tired of having sent message lines truncated.

Last update stopped moving of local folders.

Leo-When you said you can put any MBOX file in to T-Bird and it will decode them> Can you detail how to do that? I am trying to move some email archives from another account and can't get that to work.

@askleonotenboom

5 ай бұрын

Just copy the file into the Mail/LocalFolders folder in your Thunderbird profile, and restart thunderbird.

My goto client on Windows too.

I use thunderbird but I have a problem. When I reply it is not in the same format as I received it. I have tried everything to fix this and nothing works.

I am interested in this email program. I have another question, what program are you using for this presentation?

@askleonotenboom

5 ай бұрын

Right there in the title. Using Thunderbird.

Hello, I was watching the video and wondered if you can consolidate several email accounts into one inbox...?

@askleonotenboom

11 күн бұрын

Not really, each is its own. Some email programs may have "views" you can apply that would combine them, but honestly that would be so confusing, and it appears Thunderbird does not have this.

I have a question please its driving me crazy I have an email address from a service provider which I use Thunderbird to open read send etc: which is all I want thunderbird for nothing else. The problem is if I'm in Gmail and want to save an email it saves it as thunderbird format, plus if I want to respond to a link I might get in a Gmail email when I click respond it opens in the Thunderbird program. It's like Thunderbird is the default program. How the hell do I stop it, please.

Hey Leo, thanks for the advice. I have a question however. When using Thunderbird, do you know if it's possible to set up the program so you can see the email address of the sender in the inbox before opening a new email? I would like to be able to do that as being able to see the sender email address can help to easily identify spam/phishing attempts.

@askleonotenboom

2 ай бұрын

You should be able to customize the columns in that display. In my TBird there's a weird little icon at the far right of the list header. Click on that and you can choose which columns should be displayed. "From" is one of them.

@dragonmaster1500

2 ай бұрын

@@askleonotenboom Hello Leon, I was looking at that and the From column only appears to show the sender's display name, rather than their full email. I did some digging and it appears that showing email addresses in the inbox before the email is opened, is stuck as a feature request for now. Still, thanks for the information, I hope you have a great rest of your day.

I remember TB from years ago. 2005 ish ? I thought it was gone! Being devils adv for sec here...isnt it a bit dangerous tho? I.e yes as back up it makes sense. But..if its configed wrong ..isnt it a chance u could delete stuff..on main acct like gmail.. by mistake when its synced? Or what if the pc is hacked? Isnt it kinda putting a bit too much resp in users hands if it messed up their main acct? Wouldnt gmail thro up hands and say..hey..not my prob? My partner hates some aspects of gmail. But am hesitant about doin an alt like TB for these reasons.

@askleonotenboom

15 күн бұрын

What you're describing isn't unique to thunderbird, it's any desktop email app. And in fact, even online. "I accidentally deleted my email" can happen anywhere.

My inbox is archived into about 100 folders with multiple subfolders. Is there a way to sort all subfolder e-mails with most recent-on-top for each subfolder at once? Thunderbird default sorting is the older on top and I must go into each folder to reverse sorting. Thanks a lot!

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

Not that I know of.

@PaulG.x

5 ай бұрын

That's why I stopped using folders and only use tags now

@KR1804

5 ай бұрын

@@PaulG.x According to superuser (Change the default sorting order in Thunderbird) there is a way, but I haven't yet tried it. If it works it would save me!

I use Outlook which came as part of Office 2007 (yes i know but iit's all I need) I backup my emails monthly and yearly to a NAS. I wonder if Thunderbird is capable of reading the resultant .pst files which Outlook creates in backup. Thanks in advance.

@askleonotenboom

5 ай бұрын

Nope. That's one of the (few) reasons I dislike Outlook. PSTs are proprietary.

@p165711

5 ай бұрын

Thank for the response. @@askleonotenboom

@ebreckpo6563

5 ай бұрын

There are tools available to convert .pst files to mbox format some of them are free. There is even a native import function in TB. Have a look in the tools tab.

@p165711

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for that, I will d/l it again and give it a whirl. I didn't see anything last time I tried re import functions but it was over a year ago. @@ebreckpo6563

I have imported my account in TB (imap acc). In this account, there are several folders which I created myself. When importing the acc in TB, these folders are not imported in TB. I can create these folders in TB (local folders), but how can I import or copy the mails into these folders. Is there a way ? Or have I done something wrong at the beginning and the best thing to do is to start all over again ? Tnx.

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

Depends on the account. If you're using Gmail, then you're really talking about labels. You'd need to go into settings - labels, and make them visible in IMAP.

@ericbraet7931

6 ай бұрын

Tnx for reply. No, it's not gmail, nor outlook. It's a local provider.

@ericbraet7931

6 ай бұрын

Solved. Did not know I had to subscribe on these folders. They were there, but unticked for subscription.

Does Thunderbird duplicate the folders that I have setup in Earthlink?

@askleonotenboom

4 күн бұрын

It should, but it may depend on the specific earthlink configuration.

I mainly use my phone for email, so I don't use Thunderbird that much on PC anymore, but notice it's sluggish when I do. I'm running current version 115.6.1. I don't ever recall TB being this sluggish, any tips or tricks to speed up TB?

@ebreckpo6563

5 ай бұрын

When using IMAP Thunderbird has to resync the online folders. If not opened for a long time this can take some time. Leave the client open when having lunch, breakfast. It will eventually ask to compact folders.

@yakbreeder

5 ай бұрын

@@ebreckpo6563 I wasn't aware of that, IMAP needing to resync. I get the "compact folder" prompt, but never knew what it was meant by it. It makes sense now. Thanks for the advice.

@askleonotenboom

5 ай бұрын

This is why I leave my copy of Thunderbird constantly running, even though I don't interact with it. (It's downloading my email as a backup.)

@yakbreeder

5 ай бұрын

@@askleonotenboom 99.9% of my email could be unsubscribed from, they're mostly sales ads. Thank you so much for your reply, I appreciate it.

would you use the revised Mozilla thunderbird

@askleonotenboom

Ай бұрын

I would and I do.

Does this link to iPads and iPhone too

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

No.

can it be integrated with gmail?

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I use it to backup my Gmail.

Just transfer it by copying the PROFILE and moving that.. includes it all.

i dont use it i use outlook and gmail web browsers email only here infact been using hotmail since 1998 here

Do they have a very good android app?

@askleonotenboom

6 ай бұрын

Not yet, but they're working on it.

@ebreckpo6563

5 ай бұрын

They are working together with K-9 mail app. The migration is fairly recent and in it's infancy. Of course long K-9 mail users complain the app is not behaving as it used to be

Wish they increase the mailbox size!!

@askleonotenboom

Ай бұрын

That's completely unrelated to Thunderbird.

@cafemolido5459

Ай бұрын

@askleonotenboom yes related, TB has mail box size limit 4gb?

@askleonotenboom

Ай бұрын

@@cafemolido5459 Apparently only in the 32bit version (I did not know this), from what I'm seeing. Most folks should be running 64bit. That's my recommendation, for sure.

I think it's horrible for forwarding emails it sends a whole load of crap along with the original email

I've been using Thunderbird for years and I USED TO LOVE IT. Now I'm starting to hate it. They can't leave well enough alone they are always "upgrading". They always change the interface and it gets more confusing every time they do this. It was very frustrating figuring how to get it to write an email after the last change. Why did they ruin a great thing?

@ebreckpo6563

5 ай бұрын

Have a look at the Thunderbird documentation online and you can revert to the "classic" TB interface.

Big disadvantage of this is you can't see your sent items on mobile device.

@ebreckpo6563

5 ай бұрын

When using IMAP your send mails are reflected into TB.

@portman8909

5 ай бұрын

How's the IMAP on this? It was always problematic on Outlook making me stick with webmail.@@ebreckpo6563

I don't WANT folders-- I read them and get rid of them- NO sense in keeping that trash.. any of it.. I WANT to get RID OF THE ALL MAIL folders and can't... so I'm going to have to quit Thunderbird if I can't find a solution. I don't DO windows- and I DON"T need the freakin folders.. I need _IN, OUT, and TRASH- and nothing else.. I don't do GMAIL> so I don't know how it got on there to begin with.- just been the last couple months.. wasn't there before.

An observation... Microsoft is becoming more and more encroaching, forcefully, and cluttered - privacy intimidation too. Linux, LibreOffice and Thunderbird may be our only choice for both private and business use.

They have made some horrendous UI changes recently - another software ruined

@ebreckpo6563

5 ай бұрын

It is not ruined, you can mostly revert the UI changes, have a look at the online docs "classic interface" these changes are happening because TB relies on Firefox code and a lot of newer users are moaning the interface is not as flashy as other e-mail clients.

ONCE deleted- it shouldn't be STORED AT ALL.. that's B... sh....t!!!!!!

Too many updates. Too complex for old people. Was great at one time. Sorry.

@robertmurdock7530

Ай бұрын

I'm 75 and I love it. Took me a little time to adjust to something different than Outlook, but I'm thrilled!

SUCKS!

@askleonotenboom

3 ай бұрын

BLOWS!

Thunderbird: An outdated, unusable, and boring Email Client.

@askleonotenboom

3 ай бұрын

Boring is exactly what I look for in an email client. Boring, simple, reliable.

lol @ powerful. Thunderbird is one of those pieces of software used only by the most eccentric of people.