Human rights are not negotiable, on any side, so why is DW still questioning this?

@ArnoSnyman007

26 күн бұрын

It is not s human right.

@greenwave819

26 күн бұрын

terrorist rights are however not rights

@jankaufmann4305

26 күн бұрын

The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

@geoms6263

26 күн бұрын

islam gave to mankind an ideal code of human rights fourteen centuries ago......they have sharia law not Universal Human Rights.

@xychachiniyoyo

26 күн бұрын

@@geoms6263 Don't try to falsehood about Islam. Even who follows Islam they protect from any kind of sin. Even from HIV.

The value of Israeli baby is the same as the value of the Palestinian baby

@nick00176

26 күн бұрын

No, aren't you all against Israel

@jonathanhall5836

26 күн бұрын

True, it’s a seller’s market

@ernestdoyle6937

26 күн бұрын

Tell that to the Palestinians.

@WalterThompson-rt7jm

26 күн бұрын

Tell that to Hamas…

@dustintacohands1107

26 күн бұрын

Where’s Kfir???!?

how can they say they support a two state solution and not want to recognize palestinian right to self determination ? Germany stays on the wrong side of history.

@jorgeanderson9032

26 күн бұрын

Previous self determinated government was Hamas

@lovyrituraj

26 күн бұрын

​​@@jorgeanderson9032 they won through elections

@Lfgnyc

26 күн бұрын

Erm, what happened in November 1947? 🤔

@Blodhelm

26 күн бұрын

@@Lfgnyc The first two-state solution was rejected.

@yossarincatch6051

26 күн бұрын

@@Blodhelm Wrong NetanHitler on record said he scuttled Oslo Pact.

Spain, Ireland and Norway on the right side of history. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Shame on you Germany!!

@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk

26 күн бұрын

Germany donates more money to Gaza than Spain , Ireland,and norway combined, 250 million euros,, you heard about putting your money where your mouth is.

@user-ns8hj2ws3s

26 күн бұрын

True

@JG-xi4tu

26 күн бұрын

👍​@@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk

@JG-xi4tu

26 күн бұрын

Cut us some slack, we have a history you know

@MRPILL72

26 күн бұрын

@@JG-xi4tuyou would think that history would make them more vigilant of crimes against humanity… and genocide itself. It’s almost as if they didn’t learn from their mistakes.

That title is horrible

@nurex9029

26 күн бұрын

Was about to say the same...absorb

@delos2279

26 күн бұрын

Watch France24 instead, much less slant. Germany's history means their state news cannot do balanced coverage on this issue.

@mgordon1713

26 күн бұрын

But it's correct. They just rewarded terrorism, rioting and violence.

@hommadi2001

26 күн бұрын

Same.

@genadiyrool

26 күн бұрын

It's like saying freeing an abuse victim after they finally fought back is rewarding agression

a *_RIGHT_* is *_NOT_* a reward!

@datboib3432

26 күн бұрын

I want my own country too then, it’s my right apparently

@Allahiswiththeoppressed

26 күн бұрын

@@datboib3432 Freedom is always fought for never given. We see the fruits. Israel had nothing to make it state.when it was recognized by newly formed and west dominated UN. But palastine have evrything to make them state.

@Blodhelm

26 күн бұрын

@@Allahiswiththeoppressed Then why are people trying to GIVE Palestinians a state saying it is a right?

@datboib3432

26 күн бұрын

@@Allahiswiththeoppressed israel has been having to fight for their freedom also. Everybody with half a brain wants a two-state solution , except for the extremes on BOTH sides. The average Palestinian person just wants to live in peace and have a home & the average Israeli just wants to live in peace and not deal with stuff like this every 10 years or so.

@PaulJoanKieth

26 күн бұрын

hows that working out for the Kurds?

If Palestine was recongnized sooner than October 7th would not have happened

Hey Deutsche Welle. What happened to your interview with Palestinian lawyer Noura Erekat on this topic? Did you suppress it? Or did you just lose the tape?

what the heck is that title on the banner?! you couldn't finish paying the cost of WW2. Germany made a mistake in that time, and today making another mistake. history will record this one as well 📝

@olafsigursons

26 күн бұрын

Hamas is a religious far-right organization. You are making the mistake.

@mstrehena5535

26 күн бұрын

​@@olafsigursons Armed resistance against brutal occupation is not terrorism. Nelson Mandela did the same and he was called terrorist by the west.

@erikt1713

26 күн бұрын

The payments to the allies for WW2 were completed about 20 years ago. That's really done now.

@BOBK-jf4qx

26 күн бұрын

@@olafsigursons While Israel cabinet is a compassionate kumbaya club... :D

@Agtsmirnoff

26 күн бұрын

@@mstrehena5535Gaza wasn’t occupied on Oct 6th

children are not Hamas .. children shdn't be slaughtered for Hamas' crimes .. build a wall. protect your borders better .. the world is mourning with bullied- bombed- &-starved Gaza; do you want this to be a forever thing? Ruling over your neighbor is obscene. 👼🏽👼🏽👶🏽👶🏽👵🏽👵🏽

@bigboyindhouse8142

26 күн бұрын

Did you tell that to Russia?

@CptFugu

26 күн бұрын

@@bigboyindhouse8142 Hamas, Hezbollah, and others exist with the active support of the population. You can't really say they aren't tied. I am against military action against civilians, but those civilians need to make sure they are not getting involved through active or passive support. There are few real innocents among the Palestinians. To be fair, Gaza and the west bank were pretty much left alone for well over a decade. Any hardship there falls squarely on the head of their governments. Previously things were solved with the odd small scale retaliation. They crossed a line on Oct 7. And that was all on their own. They can end this at any time by capitulating and turning themselves in.

@RicardoLopez-ub2hs

26 күн бұрын

hamas started a war on oct 7. hamas says they will do oct 7 over and over again. this could end today if hamas released the hostages and surrendered. blame hamas.

Recognition of Palestine is an act of justice & humanity, to the indigenous in their occupied land. Supporting i3roel means: Supporting occupation, apartheid, etnich Cleansing, gen0sid & warcrimes

Germany is always on the genociding side of history.

@TheVikingmythology

25 күн бұрын

Just like China.

If Israel can exist, Palestine can, too! :) But not Hamas.

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

The two-state solution is dead. Palestinians and Hamas are the same.

@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m

26 күн бұрын

how about Israel govt? Israel govt are/were doing something much worse than Ka Mass and no consequence/justice to them?

@datboib3432

26 күн бұрын

@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7misrael actually has a functioning government with a balance of powers. Hamas is literally just a militant group that seized power almost 20 years ago & refuses to hold elections.

@bachhongtran

26 күн бұрын

@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Palestinians people are innocent, right? Ask for food, medical supply and fire rockets for decades?

@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m

26 күн бұрын

@@bachhongtran Israel does not have fire rocket? US does not have fire rocket? Uk does not have fire rocket? Germany does not have fire rocket?

Is this the most devoid of context title you could think off...

Who will be eligible to live in an independent Palestinian state because there is no nation of ethnic Palestinian people.

@joycem6250

26 күн бұрын

There was no "nation" of Israel before either. You need a country to be a nation and going back 5,000-10,000 years in history doesn't apply in international law.

@niemand6031

26 күн бұрын

It's not about ethnicity. Are borders of other sovereign countries based on ethnicity?

@cyclomb

25 күн бұрын

Palestinians are Canaanites

Any country that recognizes Palestinian statehood should be aware that the ethnic minority group (s) within its borders might want to have its own government and statehood some day.

@Salara2130

26 күн бұрын

The difference is the "within its borders" part eh? palestine is not part of isreal

@fredrikhelland8194

26 күн бұрын

Norway is already on our way to de facto cede part of the country to Sápmi, so way ahead of ya.

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

Palestinians are not an ethnic minority in Isrl amigo. They are actually the majority and growing. Not even counting the millions kicked out and not allowed to come back.

Please recognise Taiwan and Somaliland at the same time. Stop being hypocrite

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

Recognizing Palestine will only help Taiwans cause.

The EU should apply travel bans on all Israeli settlers in East Jerusalem and the Eest Bank.

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

The East Bank is in Jordan, doofus.

@owentr3svall3s68

26 күн бұрын

East bank- You mean east of Jordan river which is Jordan. You are right all palastinian/arab in gaza and Judea/Samaria should go to the nation of Jordan.

@timothyemery8289

26 күн бұрын

The EU is part of the apartheid, and the Israelis are European settlers. Fact!

@delos2279

26 күн бұрын

West Bank you mean.

@fredowusu22

26 күн бұрын

@user-pt6vg7jf6bthat would be great. Europe would a better and prosperous continent with Russia as a friend not a foe

It's 100% correct that Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and Romania have recognised Palestine, but that recognition goes all the way back to when these countries were still allied with the USSR.

Do you call Irish freedom struggle a terrorist act? If not, then how can one call Palestinian struggle a terrorist act?

Wow, what a premise DW. 75 years of occupation, land theft and murder and you ask such a question. There is nothing wrong with Journalism that seeks to find the truth, but the way you posed it comes from a sense of entitlement and lack of understanding.

@johns1600

26 күн бұрын

Shocking in how biased he was in his interview style

@johncalligeros2108

26 күн бұрын

@@johns1600 Is Phil Gayle, the DW interviewer, in the surreptitious pay of the German establishment? This is possibly the worst DW effort at unbiased journalism I have ever watched. For the record he has a BSc. in sports science, and a MA in creative writing. Maybe that explains his demeanour/approach/attitude; one of more or less permanent disdain, which I think he mistakes for edginess.

@jankaufmann4305

26 күн бұрын

The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

@francotheafrican7550

26 күн бұрын

@@jankaufmann4305 you again? You keep copy pasting your ideological nonsense sense everywhere smh

@olgakessel4101

26 күн бұрын

@@francotheafrican7550 every word in his comment is true

Both Gaza and the West Bank have their own government. They need to agree to reconcile before any talk of a Palestinian state can take place.

After October 7th 2023, it is.

Germany "two states solution requires direct negotiation on both sides?" hahaha, let Israel decide when to recognize Palestinian state? Haha, everyone know will never happen, all talk only 😂😂😆😆

@Stevemcqueen808

26 күн бұрын

Palastinians don't want a state, they want the whole piece.

@datboib3432

26 күн бұрын

Hamas charter outright denies the right for israel to exist. Israel (and everyone else, for that matter) is for two-state solution. But the government of that state can’t be bent on the destruction of the other. Hence why israel is for two state solution, just not under hamas rule.

@delos2279

26 күн бұрын

@@datboib3432 and the PA? Because Israel is the one that was annexing the West Bank, which is the PA, not Hamas, and that was going on decades before Hamas ever existed.

@hrvojeorsolic1058

26 күн бұрын

Palestine was never a country, Palestinians are not a nation, they are Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian origin immigrants in Israel.

@Stevemcqueen808

26 күн бұрын

@@hrvojeorsolic1058 shhhh that doesn't fit the occupier/occupied narrative

So where is this Palestinian state ??🤔

And nobody put pressure on Hamas. Only on Israel.

@Iris-hx6ox

25 күн бұрын

No one is supporting Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have been using the Palestinians as political tools. Palestinians have a right to exist. They deserve their own place just as Israel deserves theirs. It can be done without Hamas being part of it and without Israels boot on the innocents throats.

Isn't it contradictory that the majority of comments emphasize only the symbolic significance of the recognition of the Palestinian state, and on the other hand, the same recognition is cited as an obstacle in the negotiations for the release of the hostages? Can someone explain to me how the recognition of the Palestinian state affects the negotiations on the release of the hostages?🤔

@adriannaconnor6471

26 күн бұрын

They can no longer use the recognition of Palestine as a carrot to get the Palestinians to release hostages. It is emboldening Hamas and making them think that they can get away with more things.

So we got the major votes, what's next? Are we realising this palestine state? Like for real this time, no more delays

Denying Palestine right to exist is terrorism

@urbansenicar81

26 күн бұрын

No. It's annexation.

@greenwave819

26 күн бұрын

Terrorism should not exist tho

@user-wc8lw9km4w

26 күн бұрын

@@greenwave819 exactly. So denying Palestine shouldn't exist 👍✌️

@geoms6263

26 күн бұрын

we recognize Palestine as ancient roman province

@lise1255

26 күн бұрын

Palestine exists as it always has. There's a country called Israel in Palestine and a bit of Lebanon too.

I'm not a mathematician nor a political scientist but I think a two-state solution requires that there be TWO states, right?

@RicardoLopez-ub2hs

26 күн бұрын

Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.

Is recognizing Palestine a "reward for terrorism"? The answer depends on your perspective I reckon. From Netanyahus point of view, it's not a "reward for terrorism".

No this should have been done a long time ago.

Hamas is not Palestine. Palestine is a state while Hamas is merely the government on one part of Palestine.

@Blodhelm

26 күн бұрын

The government that started a war they couldn't win and is destroying their people so their leader can live it up in Qatar with more cash meant to help with the devastation.

@rbrtmllr

26 күн бұрын

And Hamas's rise to power was corrupt and it has not held elections.

@clanpsi

26 күн бұрын

No, it isn't. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Labelling someone Palestinian means about as much as labelling someone European.

@rbrtmllr

26 күн бұрын

@@clanpsi I suppose you prefer prisoners

@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403

26 күн бұрын

@@clanpsi Ok, maybe you prefer it this way. Palestine should be a country. But the overwhelming majority of it was "given" -aka, stolen from the Palestinians to Israel. So you're right. It's not a state. It should be a country.

3 Brave countries that have balls of steel

@jonathanjacob5453

26 күн бұрын

Balls of steel indeed. Imagine the pressure being put on them.

A state means passports are issued. Good luck to Norway, Spain etc that choose this path , 10 of thousands of Palestinian coming to your shore, when they occupied and refuse to leave, form their little communities.

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

Europe needs immigrants. Populationbis declining.

This headline has lost human decency.

@Keepthepeacesharethelove

26 күн бұрын

How do you mean this?

@ikku4321

26 күн бұрын

@@Keepthepeacesharethelove 'Is recognizing Palestine a reward for terrorism?' how would you read this in the light of the latest news, history and human rights? For me it's an attempt to re-define morale through isolating viewpoints while sacrificing modern society's core values.

Maybe the US should recognize breakaway ethnicities or regions of Ireland(Irish Travelers), Spain(Basque, Galician, Catalan and Castilian regions) and Norway(Kvens, Romani, Tatars), as sovereign states, and recognize them. Let's make our own unilateral announcement for the breakaway ethnicities states.

@ethan073

26 күн бұрын

Breakaway? You may want to spend some time researching how the Israeli state was formed…

The last speaker said declaring independence doesn't lead to any path forward. I would recommend looking at Irish history between 1919-1949. The Taoiseach referenced it in his speech, very directly to make people look at the facts.

That lady at the end just got sent there to try to revive interest in the Abraham Accords, which absolutely did not take Palestine into account, even if she's trying to say otherwise. Pretty pathetic.

@RicardoLopez-ub2hs

26 күн бұрын

PA was offered huge investments (jobs, trade, factories, loans, ...) to participate in Abraham Accords. PA tuyrned it down!

We will do everything possible to stop those 3 countries from recognising the state of Palestine 🇵🇸 Israeli foreign Minister ( above statement is enough to understand they don’t want Palestinians or a Palestinian state - BIBI tells 80% Palestinians are Hamas while President said 90% of them are not innocent even though half of the Palestinians are children)

@RicardoLopez-ub2hs

26 күн бұрын

Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.

Is recognizing "palestinian" statehood a prize for terror? YES.

@Iris-hx6ox

25 күн бұрын

No, it doesn't have to be that.

8:07 "October 7th was a shocking violation of international law"? October 7th was a horrifying violation of every single principle of human dignity

It appears that DW is on Netanyahu's side on this issue. When the host says it is easy to see why "Palestine being recognized as a state" is a reward for terrorists. First, 90% of the Palestinian people killed were not terrorist nor were they Hamas. Secondly, the Hamas attack, as atrocious as that was, appeared to be the final straw to 76 years of, not only Palestinian oppression, but all the murder and crimes against humanity oppression brought with it. As if being confined to a walled in prison was not enough. Several Palestinian generations were born into this oppression and have never experienced freedom, rights or equality. This history is not a secret and it is why people around the world are protesting and supporting Palestinians....but not DW news!

No. They deserve to be free from apartheid.

@jankaufmann4305

26 күн бұрын

They live in apartheid due to Humus - not Israel. Israel ranks the highest on human rights indexes. Palestine in the lowest.

@sirgg3847

26 күн бұрын

@@jankaufmann4305 yeah khummus in west bank too? fking hasbara

@stephensimpson8531

26 күн бұрын

The biggest bank in Israel is owned by a Palestinian. There are Palestinians in the Knesset and in the Supreme Court. Compare that to the position of Palestinians in Lebanon…

@vervetech9395

26 күн бұрын

​@@jankaufmann4305Apartheid existed long before Hamas became a thing so quit spreading misinformation.

@jankaufmann4305

26 күн бұрын

I don't know what you mean by that. Israel ranks the highest percentage on human right indexes. Palestine in the lowest. If there i something as Apartheid it exists in Palestine since Humus deny their citizines basic human rights.

All respect goes to the 3 brave countries that have backbones and the balls of steel

Good coverage, DW, thank you.

Mahmoud Abbas is even less of a president than Ebrahim Raisi was, and inshallah he meets the same fate.

I haven't yet heard the argument that the Israeli government being a democracy with a balance of powers, first world economics, powerful friends with shared values, is precisely why it is being called on to a higher standard than say a warlord in the Congo or Iran. And the fact that it lives in a dangerous neighborhood, while unfortunate, is not justification to operate for so long outside of those expectations.

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

Marriage between different religions is not recognized in Isrl.

Churchill said : at least when you stand alone, you know where you stand!

You're assuming that Palestinians want 2 states. They don't.

2:45 “unilaterally recognize Palestinian state”? The vast majority of the countries recognize the Palestinian state. This is no longer something to debate.

@icu17siberia

22 күн бұрын

Who has embassies in Palestine?

What terrorism ,fighting for freedom isn’t terrorism, Palestinians have the right to fight and resist occupation and oppression ,so many nations done it and Palestinians are no exception, they have the right of self determination and statehood like Israel and every other nation on earth and no one could or can deny that for them, gods given rights

@theodorabruin4601

26 күн бұрын

Why did they vote in the terrorist group Hamas to rule them? They Palestinians should be fighting Hamas!

@olafsigursons

26 күн бұрын

Fighting for freedom is targeting political or military target. To be oppressed doesn't give you the tight to commit atrocities. To be oppressed doesn't give you the right to be religious far-right.

@sahroyusuf9130

26 күн бұрын

❤

@sahroyusuf9130

26 күн бұрын

Free falastin

@roystonboodoo7525

26 күн бұрын

​@@olafsigursons.. 1. and the U.S does it without being oppressed !😒 2. Everyone has a right to their religious beliefs, historical religious wars are a given worldwide (I'm not saying I agree )

Yes.

I completely agree with the German Foreign Minister. There are som many practical problems that have to be adressed, this kind of symbolism (yes, it us a reward for terrorism) is contraproductive. DW should have a longer interview with Mr. Levi were he can (try to) give answets to those practical questions, instaed of giving him a platform to use slogans.

Ok now provide the map

Germany will possibly face growing isolation as well because of their one sided stance and possible complicity charges.

@Urbanhunter49

20 күн бұрын

Fluk islamists

It's an insult to logical thought. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Israelis are Palestinian. Tourism brochures from late 1930s Israel literally advertised "Visit Palestine." It's the same as calling someone from Europe European.

@filipe5722

26 күн бұрын

Thank you for adding the disclaimer that your comment was an insult to logical thought. I fully agree.

Lauren Blumenfeld is just a mouth for the US govt. THe US govt could just cut off weapons and aid to Israel and create a situation where Israel has no choice but peace and a 2 state solution. The US will never allow a 2 state solution.

DW should have given Eylon Levy 5 minutes to present the other side of the argument.

Today I am proud to be a Norwegian.

@olafsigursons

26 күн бұрын

You are proud to support a religious far-right state? Well, why I am no surprised.

@nurlanalizada4189

26 күн бұрын

You guys are at the right side of the history!

@schlafcomandante5662

26 күн бұрын

@@olafsigursons I dont support the religious far-right state of Israel.

@afterglow5285

26 күн бұрын

Norwegians are pretty based, they helped A LOT in colombia in the peace process in 2016, top notch diplomats.

@helenachin

26 күн бұрын

And I'm proud of being Spanish and proud of my government. 🇪🇦

Norway and Ireland continuing to be cool asf as always.

@aleonyohan6745

26 күн бұрын

Thank goodness we have an example to follow. Big Love from a level-headed American. Free Palestine.

@jdotsalter910

26 күн бұрын

Hey don't forget Spain! Vale!

@fredrikhelland8194

26 күн бұрын

Yeah, I remember when we recognised Ismail Haniye as leader of the Palestinian government. Cool asf

Did they recognized Taiwan?

is recognising Israel a reward for settler colonial terror?

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

You’re so big! You can use buzzwords!

@aleonyohan6745

26 күн бұрын

I'm going to say yes it is

@Blankarte

26 күн бұрын

Indeed

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

Israel actually exists. There’s never been a “Palestine.”

I find it strange that Germany wants Palestinians to negotiate with Israel but don't encourage Ukrainians to talk with Russia.

@eddastrohmayer251

26 күн бұрын

They should do also with Ukraine ! Negotiations!

@preselnik7506

26 күн бұрын

Germany wants, what US of A wants.

@adriannaconnor6471

26 күн бұрын

If Ukrainians negotiate with Russia, Russia will just take a break and learn from its past mistakes and then invade whatever's left of Ukraine a few years down the road. The war in Ukraine would immediately end if Russia left.

@cyclomb

25 күн бұрын

Germany is America's proxy state after all

@troublingrain3060

25 күн бұрын

yes

You can say that the Emancipation Proclamation was a reward for what happened at Harper's Ferry, WV in the 19th century when you follow this logic.

Armed resistance against oppression is not terrorism.

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

Yes it is.

@BOBK-jf4qx

26 күн бұрын

@@jaybee9269 Read Internation Law, you're wrong. Some acts may qualify as war crimes (hostages, etc.) but otherwise it's a legal struggle against an occupier.

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

@@BOBK-jf4qx >> Israelis are not occupiers; there’s never been a state of “Palestine.” Judea and Samaria (aka the West Bank) were won from Jordan in a defensive war. The same with the Golan Heights. I feel bad for the Palestinian Arabs but no worse than I feel for the Kurds or the Rohingya peoples. Of course, Israel tried to give Gaza back to Egypt in 1979 but they wouldn’t take it. But you support The Current Thing.

@joexavier4070

26 күн бұрын

​@@jaybee9269143 countries recognized Palestinians existence, so ur permission is not needed I think

@jaybee9269

26 күн бұрын

@@joexavier4070 >> Not my permission, just logic. Oh, and reality!

it was the product of not recognizing it., but Hamas should have no place in a Palestinian state.

@joexavier4070

26 күн бұрын

If they recognized earlier this Will not happened at first place

Love from Bangladesh for Spain, Ireland, Norway ❤❤❤

The premise of the title question is preposterous.

Also don’t forget if Palestine is recognized as a state this means they are allowed to have an official military. That military will get funding from friends Israel and the US don’t want. Also October 7th was also Putin’s birthday.

@cripmeister9104

25 күн бұрын

First chance they get they will start a war against Israel - and lose

They don't want to be complicit

Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Spain, Norway, Ireland 🇸🇯❤️🇪🇸❤️🇮🇪❤️ YOU ARE ALWAYS WILL RECOGNITION AS GOOD SOULS.

This gave me a lot to think about. Thank you DW.

Hamas is opposed to a two state solution That has been the problem the whole time Choose peace, and then palestine can be free and independent.

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

One state solution. All inhabitants of Isrl/Palestine to have same rights..

from a neutral PoV, you guys have been ignoring palestine for 70+ years and it doesnt solve anything only to make it worse. maybe now try recognizing them and maybe things will change.

Are they recognizing Hamas? Do they have any idea of their message?

@miguelmelchior986

26 күн бұрын

The problem is recognizing an occupying and criminal pseudo country..

@AzrenKaleBolles-Pohja

26 күн бұрын

Palestine and Hamas are not the same Thing.

@jewiesnew3786

26 күн бұрын

They are recognizing Palestine, never hamas

@datboib3432

26 күн бұрын

@@AzrenKaleBolles-Pohjaconsidering they govern the Gaza Strip & the citizens have allowed them to for nearly 20 years , yes it is

"They have put a noose around their own necks."

Yes it is

No, it is not. Germany needs to stop pandering to Israeli’s far right whims

@davidwhittington7638

26 күн бұрын

By what, kowtowing to the antisemitic right wing in Germany???

"is recognizing a reward for terror" DW says that while south africa exist

It's recognizing the existence of a people, as deserving of all human rights just like us

От создания независимого Палестинского государства будет мир в Палестине и на Ближнем Востоке! Палестинским беженцам нужно вернуться на исторически родную землю. Пора израилю прекратить огонь, геноцид в Газе и освободить всю Палестинскую землю! Мнения израиля вообще не имеет никакого значения т.к. еврейское государство было создано в 1948г. против желания Палестинского народа на святой арабской Палестинской земле! Спасибо всем странам за поддержку Палестины!

Is really that the question? Wow!

Let us negotiate if humans of britain, UK, germany and Israel should have freedom.

Yes, it is no to terrorist and their sympathiser

Germany stands with Israel 🇮🇱

@schlafcomandante5662

26 күн бұрын

Tell a lie often enough and it becomes Israel.

@nurlanalizada4189

26 күн бұрын

They both are genocidal states.

@aleonyohan6745

26 күн бұрын

​@@schlafcomandante5662LOL oh the old Hebrew God in the sky is going to be real mad at you.

@Blankarte

26 күн бұрын

Germany is not famous for being on the right side of history...

@joelrios3704

26 күн бұрын

Ofc, they are always on the side of Genocide and war

This question coming from a twisted mind.

KZread deletes my comments if I write an oppose opinion.

Disappointed by the title. Do better DW.

Tell me: when did humans get anything, any right, without violence?

A Palestenian state would be run by Hamas. I suppose that makes absolutely no difference to these European leaders.

This is insane

What a poor thumbnail. Shame on you DW

@jankaufmann4305

26 күн бұрын

It's good. We need to stand up against slam.

Should Hamas have had to cause such a scene to have the Palestinian legitimate interests heard? Edited to add: Did the Isrealies really have to respond the way they did? They could have played the victim and gotten whatever they wanted but they chose to show their behinds.

@Stevemcqueen808

26 күн бұрын

So Iran, Hezbollah, and Syrian groups all perched on the border is unrelated? Wake up

@zarizx3426

26 күн бұрын

It's their true colors..it's hard to conceal afterall

@thefourthrabbit9516

26 күн бұрын

Yes, they did play the victim for like 20 years, during which time they slowly encroached on Palestinian lands on the West Bank and closed off Gaza like an open-air prison. Apparently, that is not enough for them. So Hamas "causing a scene" was what they had wanted all these years, and they literally pushed for Hamas to cause a scene. They might even have purposefully facilitated the Hamas attack (by ignoring relevant intelligence and pulling off border guards). After that, they had been using the Oct 7 event to cover for all the atrocities they committed. From the perspective of the Palestinians, who have suffered systematic oppression by the Israeli apartheid regime for 70 years, their suffering hardly gets any mainstream reports and will never receive substantial international support. So if they truly want freedom, they cannot rely on Israel. They cannot rely on the Palestinian authority in the West Bank, who are basically controlled by Israel. They cannot rely on the international society, which largely ignored their plight. What choice do they have other than supporting Hamas? At least this time it worked.

The truth is, the recognition of the right of self determination of ANY people at any time in history was at least in part due to the use of force and violence. The oppressors called it terrorism, to the oppressed it was resistance. Do you expect oppression to end if the oppressed only light candles and march?

I wonder when Spain grants Catalonia and Basque Country their freedom?!

@stevejefferson3250

26 күн бұрын

catalonians and Basques are not surrounded by walls, bombed by the Army of starved to death, there is not checkpoints, soldiers shooting at civilians, economic blockade or perverse settlers stilling the land. The Catalonians and basques can vote and elect their leaders. Its a big difference, isn't it?

@34tttttaa

26 күн бұрын

​@@stevejefferson3250 Catalonians held a peaceful referendum in 2017 and were beaten up by Spanish police. Their elected political leaders either imprisoned or exiled. 😒

@RS-uh7rz

26 күн бұрын

​@@stevejefferson3250Catalonians and Basques aren't waging terror campaigns intended to destroy Spain, and advocating for the murder of all Spanish people.

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

Spain grants Caralonians FULL CITIZENSHIP. Isrl could do the same for ALL Palestinians. Instead of herding them into Ghettos.

Israel should recognize a Catalonian state. Maybe a Basque state as well. And then let's see the hypocritical spanish reaction...

@Salara2130

26 күн бұрын

Palestine is not part of Isreal... what is wrong with you people...

@xXFebo92Xx

26 күн бұрын

@Salara2130 it just shows that many Israelis already think that the Palestinian territories belong to Israel like Catalonia belongs to Spain. Not surprising

@moiseshuerta3984

25 күн бұрын

Basques and Catalonians have full citizenship rights. Isrl should just give the Palestinians full citizenship rights Palestinians already outnumber Israelis by a million.

In a way it is a reward because of what happened on October 7th.

@timmy-wj2hc

26 күн бұрын

The Right of Armed Resistance under International Law. 💪👏👏👏

@hesimplywillnotdie

26 күн бұрын

@@timmy-wj2hc Which law book are you reading? Is it hard to translate from Russian?

@primal1233

26 күн бұрын

@@timmy-wj2hc if you're talking about murdering 1200 people a right to resistance under international law you are delusional

@raminm.8785

26 күн бұрын

History did not start on Oct 7th!

@primal1233

26 күн бұрын

@@raminm.8785 it doesn't give them the right to kill innocent people

Peace will prevail only on release of hostages and freedom when internal democracy is established in Gaza and West bank. Nationhood requires working with discipline and diligence and cooperation with neighbors and not violence and intimidation rape and murder. Question:: Gazans and West bank need freedom from whom ?? -What have they been doing with autonomy and land provided under Peace accords? -Can the hope of capturing Israel reasonable? As slogans of free Palestine seems to suggest when in territory controlled by Palestinians nobody seems free!! 0:46

Dw, your guest speaker is [idealistic] Has he ever experienced daily terror attacks by radicalised people in his neighbourhood? If statehood comes through as he said, there would be chaos in Middle East. Palestine will be another mini-Iran that terrorised its neighbours and this time, it has the right to do so. 😂... Singapore's statehood recognition came through direct negotiation with its neighbour Malaysia. No other countries recognised its statehood prior to negotiations. Only through direct negotiation between 2 non-radicalised parties can lead to everlasting peace.😊