“A reloading recruitment video”... absolutely! The video easily demonstrates how, if obviously done correctly, hand loads can be tailored to a specific firearm. Pretty cool. I don’t have this gun or even a gun chambered for this cartridge, but watch for pointers. Thank you.

@546cowboy8

6 жыл бұрын

The cost of ammo is a real problem as this 6.5 is pretty much over a dollar a round just about everywhere I looked. I used to reload many years ago but the cost of that has gone through the roof too.

I am fixing to start loading 6.5CM as well. I was pumped to hear you were going to start this series. Keep up the awesome work!!

I love to see it when you put a muzzle brake on it and see the difference in the rise of the barrel as well as the recall difference. I've been following your channel for a long time love the videos keep up the great work.

You are the only person I watch on KZread I love the .223 videos and now the 6.5. Very good videos I can dig theses. Love all the cheap bulk bullets videos.

Great video and data on the accuracy with refreshing honesty.

What a service you have done for all the folk looking to get excellent performance at a reasonably low cost. Find some Reloder 16, you will love it in 6.5 Creed.

Appreciate the in depth videos. Love em!!

@JohnnysReloadingBench

6 жыл бұрын

I love that they're appreciated! Thanks!

Got myself the Compass in 556/223, left the trigger at factory setting, getting excellent accuracy out of it, will probably get one more in 308 Win as you simply cannot go wrong with this rifle. Awesome video with dual purpose, to test the reloads and review the rifle, all that in one place, priceless.

One of the few reviewers who know about barrel heating! My Rem 700, with factory ammo, shoots 1-2 inch groups. With hand loads, and a stone cold barrel, does .4 inches at 100 yds. You are right hand loading and cold barrel matters, Good video.

I ended up buying one of these in 6.5 Creedmoor after seeing your video. I took it apart and poured bondo resin in the forend to stiffen it up, bedded the lug area, and put a MCarbo spring kit in it. After some testing I was able to get a .38moa group at 100yds with this setup. I wish I knew how to attach a photo. I used Hornady Brass, Hornady 147gr ELD-M, 41grs H4350, and my COL is 2.9" which is a 40 thousands jump on my firearm. It is pushing 2630 fps. Thanks again for your video because I wouldn't have this tack driver if it wasn't for you at a ridiculously low price.

thanks again ! you have the best instructions for a simpleton like me. i'm slow to learn but this help me to get it quickly. i ordered me a new lighter spring for the trigger so with that said i should be able to get my trigger weight down to 2.5 lbs. thank you!!!

Absolutely outstanding video. I'm looking at getting a Compass myself sometime next year. Loved the detail you went into throughout the entire video. Would love to get into reloading but can't afford to at the moment.

Have a savage 110 tactical in 6.5 creedmoor on the way currently as well as a press. Been looking forward to reloading for awhile now. Love the info in these videos.

Great video brother , looking forward to seeing more on the series

Thanks for the review JR. You mentioned in another video about your thumb position with regards the the butt stock. I had the same problem, but purchased a Boyd's Thumbhole and solved that issue with my 308 Compass. As for the trigger. The lowest I could get with the pull weight was 3lbs 10oz on mine. I removed the nut as you did, and lowered it to 2lbs 4oz measures on a Lyman digital trigger gauge. I hope this helped.

What a great video! Thank you. Just bought one a few days ago in 6.5!

@JohnnysReloadingBench

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope yours shoots as well as mine! Great price on these guys.

Seriously, that was actually one of the most straight-forward and really, one of the only existing demos on how to adjust the Compass trigger. Last year, I got the T/C Compass II in .308 Win. Non-adjustable bladed trigger. I ran several strings of 20 pulls each. It never got above 2 pounds 7.7 ounces. I did put mine in an Oryx chassis. The factory stock was okay and I was getting 1/2 MOA. The chassis is at least as good at that.

Best instruction for adjustment yet. Thompson center/ smith and wesson needs to pay this dude.

just bought one of these from a buddy who needed some cash. figured id learn something about it. ended up subscribing!

very nice review. I love the attention to detail, subbed

Excellent video. Being old school and dedicated 257 Roberts fan as well as the 6.5X55, I think I may have to jump on this rifle and the caliber you used. Thank you for this detailed presentation. In truth, I actually reacted with a few "dangs" and "geezs", which I hardly do watching KZread. BTW, I did subscribe. Keep up the good work!

Just received mine in 6.5 Creedmoor. Your videos are excellent! Only disappointment with the rifle is the heavy trigger. Mine measured 6 lbs 7 oz.

sir thank you for this video! loved it and know it will help paid 325 after rebate so paid too much! without a scope even. o well if it gets a deer or two it will still be worth it. so thanks again you really did great to share your experience with trigger adjustments and reloads!

Great video man! Thanks! Like I've said; really excited about this series!!

I miss shooting my old 6.5X55! Great video

I bougth this Thompson Center Compass last week. It's a awesome gun. The trigger pull on mine, I love it. If your using this gun for hunting, leave the trigger pull alone. Everyone at the range yesterday couldn't believe how super well this gun is made for the price. Three guys that where leaving the range were heard to Pro Bass Shop to buy one as the sale was ending today and they where on sale for 299.95. I even like it better than my Reminton model 700 that I have three time the money in it. I didn't like the hollow butt on the gun as when you hit it, it's nosey. So I took the butt pad off and filled it part way with Good Stuff Gap Fiiler half way. Than the next day I filled it more. 100 percent better. Now it sounds solid. This gun shoots a tight group everytime, I'd even pay twice the money for it, You can't go wrong with this gun.

glad to see you finally suppressing a bolt action! welcome to the club, in my opinion it is more enjoyable than suppressed gas guns. low recoil and no action noise/pop through the ejection port

Outstanding Video and Producing1 Thank You, Johnny!

Great demo of adjusting the trigger... Thanks!

@1slowz2

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed, swap out the spring with a lighter spring and you will have an even lighter trigger.

Great shooting JRB and really good overview of the rifle. You trigger adjustment segment will come in really helpful. It’s not a bad gun or investment at all for $200, It’s a great bargain. My brother in laws shoots 1/2” with RE17 and the Hornady 143 ELD’s. No doubt in my mind you will find some sweet 1/2” loads. And shooting 1/2” from a $200 rifle is crazy. I just picked one up from KYGunco for $197 last week (after rebate), so looking forward to this series to compare Reloading notes/accuracy.

@JohnnysReloadingBench

6 жыл бұрын

I should have mentioned KYGunco in the video. I have linked them in the description. They are definitely the best price right now. Being in KY, though...I figured they'd charge me sales tax so the price would have been pretty much the same in my case.

@williamimboden9899

5 жыл бұрын

$199.00 for gun with a 3-9x crossfire, no ship no tax, fall 2017. ky gun

Hard to beat for the money great video brother I've had some really good results using the alliant powders

I’m gonna get me some of that! Very nice! Loved the video!

Just a helpful tip for everyone. A Winchester M-70 Target Trigger Spring is an exact match to replace the stock trigger spring and will drop the trigger pull to about 3.5lbs.

@billkelley2388

4 жыл бұрын

m carbo makes spring kits for tc compass and they make the trigger way better on these rifles.

@joekirk167

4 жыл бұрын

I got my trigger set up from M. Carbo and it is awesome.

@oldArmyVet

2 жыл бұрын

Why would you do that when the gun comes with an adjustable trigger?

@airborneivan

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldArmyVet adjustable trigger is absolutely horrible. If you want a better trigger this is the way to go or get the mcarbo kit.

@oldArmyVet

2 жыл бұрын

@@airborneivan I adjusted mine down to 3 pounds it's perfect for me

Have this same rifle and have recently started reloading for it. Makes me even more excited for this video series! Also accuracy and consistency greatly improved after glass bedding the stock. Boyd's just started making stocks for the compass. Might be something to look into as well.

@austintyler7991

6 жыл бұрын

gunsnwatches yea $137 base price for Boyds. I've got one on order

Thks for all the info I'm glad I ran into this vid I just purchased one from a small outfitter I want to support but I'm waiting on background check. But for what u told me it costs I realized he put over a $200 markup on it so I think I'm gonna tell him I'm allset lol I'm new to gun buying so he almost got me.

I just came across a deal on one of these rifles in 6.5 creedmore. Hopefully we will be getting setup to start reloading soon

Johnny, I know this is a old video but I bought the same rifle at the same time you bought yours. I changed the stock and bedded the action and for my first bolt action rifle I had a blast doing upgrades and shot about 1000rds with it. I have sold the Compass and moved into a Sabatti Tactical EVO in 6.5 CM. Due to the crazy cost I bought a Hornady single stage reloading station. Plan on watching a lot of your videos to see how you progressed in this caliber. Can't wait to start reloading my own ammo.

Johnny, the gun will gain more accuracy and velocity as the copper fouling builds up in the barrel. It took my Savage 250 rounds of Hornady 143 ELD. The increased bearing surface of the bullet in the barrel plays a huge role in accuracy and velocity and groups will be inconsistent until the barrel builds up a even layer of copper fouling. This barrel shows huge promise once it is fully broken in. I also recommend throwing out the first bullet for each group when measuring group size if you change bullet types or powders. Your 42.0 of RL17 with the 130 SGK is a perfect example of a POI shift due to change of bullet type/manufacturer. I have also found RL17 to be the cleanest burning powder in 6.5 creedmoor.

@robertanderson1115

6 жыл бұрын

not every rifle. I have a cooper that shoots better when it is completely copper free.

@easttexan2933

4 жыл бұрын

David Peterson.....I agree. Barrels shoot better with some fouling. Uh, at least the ones I've owned since I started noticing things like that which was around the early 70's.

Johnny said: "You got to get your gun out and play with it" Nice videos as always.

After watching your videos on the Grendel and loading 500 rounds for it. I decided I wanted a bolt rifle in that calliber so I bought a CZ527 . SWEET. When I was looking for a CZ527 I saw some Bergaras and have decided to get one. I have decided to get it in 6.5 Creedmoor. But I haven't decided which one I want. Thinking the B 14 HMR. I'm collecting now as much as hunting and figure it will be nice next to have.

Very interesting! A word of caution JRB and readers! Before you go to adjust the trigger, read the instructions at least three times while LOOKING at the subject. In a day where gun makers are catching hell at every turn, it makes sense to make sure that the operator headspace is working. Safety starts between your ears

Thanks for the trigger instructions because I would have messed that up trying to follow some instructions

Love your videos. Just a tip, you probably know; helps to have the front rest farther forward on the rifle

Great job dude very well done! One thing I noticed on the first two shots you did for a group at 100, the front rest was close to the receiver on the first shot and crept toward the muzzle on the second shot. With the cheap stock that may be why you saw a bad spread there. Looking forward to more 6.5 CM

Awesome Video Brother. Great rifle for the money.

I shot mine yesterday with the red “spacer” still on where you put it under the barrel (forgot to take it off) it shot 1/2moa with cheap 140gr Hornady American gunner!

You got more gadgets than anyone I’ve seen on utube

I bought this rifle after watching this series. Bought dies and loaded up some 140's. Waiting on the scope, cant wait to shoot it.

The BUTTPAD shot you snuck in there was dangerous... the water I just drank came out my nose and I nearly drowned while laughing.

@lukebriggs501

6 жыл бұрын

3:03

@heavyglassglass

5 жыл бұрын

I laughed for a good twenty seconds on that one

@fishingthe910

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortanetly reading this comment before watching the video took the wow factor away for me.....

Great video mr.s

Thanks for video I'm gonna buy a Compass now

My action and safety was tight on my 6.5 compass, I put some lucas gun oil on the bolt lugs and on/in the safety the best I could and went to work running the bolt and safety for a few minutes and it made a world of difference..

Great video!! You definitely earned a new subscriber. Thanks for being so detailed. Good info! I dont reload... yet. I use Hornady Superformance SST in .308 through my compass. It groups between .75-.9 (ish)"... and that's a .308 with factory box ammo. I have a 6.25lb trigger pull that somewhat "handicaps" my shooting... it's an early model rifle that was recalled and "fixed" by T/C by cranking up the pull weight. I'm thoroughly impressed with this rifle... except for the excessive trigger pull weight as their hack of a recall fix. In case somebody wants to know... I'm using a Primary Arms Orion Scope with the nice chevron in the reticle. That chevron helps a lot. It's as accurate as you want it to be. I shoot with my rifle well balanced on a sand bag placed just under the magazine area... without toe support... only because I hunt out of an elevated Blind and just rest the stock on my rubber limbsaver sling on top of the window sill. Nothing fancy and the thing remains a tack driver! I broke it in right using a copper equilibrium procedure. See the Sniper 101 video for the steps on how to do it. Whether that helped, I can't say. I'm sure it didn't hurt. I managed to shoot a Whitetail at 305 yards with a 5-8 mph cross wind ... right through the heart!

@yolo-qr2fq

5 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the federal 168gr Sierra otm loads? Most accurate in the PWS match 308 rifle I have.

Great video! Really like your presentation. An American made rifle that shoots 1 MOA out of the box for uder $400? Outstanding.

I bought this same rifle as a budget Hunter. Used an existing sling I had and ordered a TC predator scope and I'm all in at $250 not counting my hunting ammo of choice.

Really Promising and just the Very Gun I wanted to see too. Budget build...hmmm.... I smell Upgrades coming!

So many uppy closies, i love it.

I have this rifle in 6.5CM. So far I get the best groups from Hornady's 140gr ELD Match and 143gr ELD-X loads which produce 3-round groups of .50 and .75 inches, give or take. Always under an inch.

@TheMoody876

5 жыл бұрын

What about the 147 gr eld match

PR3 I use the red spacer between the barrel and the stock when replacing the action and it centers the barrel nicely. Then remove. You can remove the second upper lock nut and lower the trigger pull weight substantially. Still plenty to not adversely effect any functionality.

@tbar5403

3 жыл бұрын

WARNING: Fails drop test if you remove one of the upper nuts! A light target replacement trigger spring is only $10.00 and will pass the drop test.

Dude miss your videos. Please come back.

Great Video man I have this gun in 7mm08 and love it. I hope they make a after market stock for it or I'm gonna bed this one to make it better

I have it in 6.5 CM with Boyds "AT ONE" laminated wood and could not be any happier

Trying to squeeze this video in before work. Ill just throw some water in my hair and say I took a shower. Been waiting for this video for a little while now. Soo excite! Eeek! Don't judge me, you're not even my real dad!

For mine I use Hornady Precision Hunter and at 100yrds I can cover 3 shots with a dime. The Winchester Expedition opens up to 3 shots 1inch to 1-1/4inch groups.

Your group is all over the place dude that rifles capable of 1/2 a minute !!!!

@DC-wk1mf

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any luck of getting it under 1.5 moa. I'm still shooting factory ammo. Dont have the resources for reloading.

This gun is going out of stock everywhere. Do you know of a place selling it for less than $300? Let me know and I'll add it to the description.

@newdeathscope

6 жыл бұрын

Johnny's Reloading Bench academy has it and will price match.

@shojinishikawa6168

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Johnny, I had my hopes Way Down looking for this 6.5 with the Scope Combo. But the 2nd combo you listed (6.5 Creedmoor with Vortex 4-12x40mm Diamondback) is in stock !!!! You have definitely made my day, I got one on order now ... way too awesome of a deal to pass on. Thanks again!!!

@JAM4MORE

6 жыл бұрын

newdeathscope yes I got Academy to price match Dick's at $254.98 and they take off another 5% from that. 187.22 after $75 rebate and tax. Mine is 308win. Great info on the trigger.

@abcertweld

6 жыл бұрын

Johnny's Reloading Bench Vance Gun Store in Columbus, OH is about the only ones I know that still have some in stock. You can search them online. Sportsmans Guide may have some but most are on back order or out of stock.

@brycen5525

6 жыл бұрын

Kentucky Gun co. Cheapest place i've seen on line

wow youve got some cool tools

I got interested in the TC Compass from this video until I noted that no left hand versions were available. The next models up in price do have LH versions, but you lose the threaded barrel. I went with Savage Stealth in LH.

I like your channel but not sure if your rifle was the best choice. I got my new Remington 783 6.5CM, 22in” semi- heavy barrel. The stock is the cheapest one and it wasn’t floating barrel but Really accurate. Nice action and trigger. I got a cheap Nikon 4-12x14 Buckmaster2 instead. (I think Nikon is better than a cheap Version of a better brand like Vortex) Aligning my scope for first time and I shoot 4 Federal Not típical 140gn, also I shoot in a hurry as the sunset came to fast and the shooting range will close. I got .939 MOA at 100yards, Not my best shots and not the best conditions! Really happy. Good luck

The trigger is a copy of a Winchester model 70 so you can use performance trigger springs for those guns in the TC Compass.

@JohnnysReloadingBench

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I knew the safety setup was just like a Winchester but I didn't realize the trigger is as well. I just got my first Winchester a few weeks ago and I haven't had it apart yet. Thanks!

@murphy4yt

5 жыл бұрын

The tigger spring from a Model 70 is a direct replacement, and will lighten the tigger pull considerably.

I bought the compass in 308. Mine took about 30 rounds before it started acting decent. That was with my reloads.

@newdeathscope

6 жыл бұрын

Robby Ransom I picked up the same gun. Excited to start hand loading.

Thank you

The ammo is tested in a 24" barrel as per Hornady's website, and the Compass's barrel is a long the lines of 21.75". That could be the cause of the 100fps discretion.

The Carbo spring kit will also come with sear spring

That Red looks good on you.

so when are you going to order a stock and some bedding compound ?

I picked one up this week , haven't shot it yet. But they must have changed the triggers on the new ones . Mine broke like glass. I couldn't believe how nice it was. It was close to my Timmney trigger , Really! Maybe not as good, but pretty dam good . I was fully expecting to have to change out the trigger or modify it when I bought it .Nope.

Johny, Thanks for all the detail on this gun. I am considering this and a Tikka for my first hunting gun. You mentioned your Tikka in this review, so was wondering what you thought, should I go for the Tikka or the Thompson. I was a bit surprised and disappointed that you said the tikka's synthetic stock was cheap and same concerns as the Thompson. I have handled a tikka tx3 lite and I thought the stock was much better fit and feel than the budget rifles such as the Rem 783, Savage Axis and Ruger American. I have not got my hands on a Thompson Compass. Also, the Tikka's stock was stiffer than those, I couldn't easily push the barrel and stock together.

The great gun for the price it's an awesome gun I see no other reviews of it.. these cheap guns that are machined on a CNC machine kick ass all day long

Have this rifle in 308...168gr Hornady match and Varget...sub 1/2 inch groups the last time I made it to the range. More than impressive with a rifle at this price point. As you said, nothing to complain about if you had paid 500 bucks for it. Outshoots my bro in law's Browning X-bolt easily!

@JohnSchenck

6 жыл бұрын

How much Varget are you using? OAL? I'm loading for a T/C 308 also, only ran ~30 rounds or so but not getting the groups I like yet. Trying H335 and Varget on some 150gr poly tips (Not Hornady though)

@theosbrewhaus9166

6 жыл бұрын

41.0 grains of Varget with an overall length of 2.750 and a very minimal crimp. Your groups should tighten up with another 30-40 rounds. My rifle started shooting a lot tighter after about 60 rounds.

Thank good instructions

You should try the .338 rcm that ruger has some of the models on sale for 499.99 until the end of the year. It’s a really interesting caliber. Factory ammo it groups around 1.25-1.75 but some of the fast 215 I’ve loaded and the fat 250 have put down 3/4 groups. The really nice thing with the factory ammo is you can set the rifle for 100yrds with the 200’s and it will only shot the 225 a 1/8in low and the 185 about 3/16in high.

Handloaders delight!! Hip hiphoppity don't stop dancing to the bouggety beat mane!!

Just getting into reloading 6.5cm full length resizing is VERY difficult, I’ve tried a couple of different lubes but it’s very difficult. I’m on an rcbs rockchucker 4 with rcbs dies. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.

I'm impressed! One thing though: with some of those bigger groups with factory ammunition, it seemed that you might have been pulling your face off the stock in between shots? I'm not sure, but I think you should re-shoot the factory groups, considering most barrels need some copper fouling to be most accurate. I don't reload so i was pulling for the factory ammo. Great video by the way

Hope to hear more about this gun soon, I'm definitely looking into buying this or something similar. Just haven't decide if I have reason enough to move away from a standard military round or not. Like 7.62x51. I'm trying to find a good balance between shooting accuracy, affordable ammo, practicality with the best reloading components for someone starting out with literally no dies or equipment to speak of

@JohnnysReloadingBench

6 жыл бұрын

There's no shame in sticking with 308! It's been getting the job done for a long time. I like shooting heavy bullets, as a general rule, so I look down my nose at these smaller calibers with their dainty little bullets. They have their advantages, though...so the rising popularity is understandable.

@TALLA300CforumZ

6 жыл бұрын

all i reload is .308 and have a lot of fun reloading trying different powders and all that

@anchorbait6662

6 жыл бұрын

TALLA300CforumZ does the cartridge hold enough powder to push the high bc bullets? Like the 190+ grain bullets?

@TALLA300CforumZ

6 жыл бұрын

what do you plan on shooting ?

@anchorbait6662

6 жыл бұрын

TALLA300CforumZ long range paper or steel. If I'm hunting I wouldn't use anything over 168

Another great video! Looking very good for accuracy with those first reloads! Now for the question. Have you ever heard of or tried Peterson brass? Looks like they have a few varieties of 6.5 Creedmoor brass (LRP, SRP, and thick neck). It also looks reasonably priced. I came across it today when perusing the 6.5 Creedmoor forum.

Could you seat some bullets with all three stems and do a run-out comparison for us? I have some of these dies but have not acquired a concentricity gauge yet.

Just don't adjust the trigger so light just goes off like the rem 700 guys..nice video

Thanks for trigger portion. I'm waiting for mine to come,(also 6.5 CM) and never would have figured that adjustment out. I would be interested in seeing how some over the counter match rounds perform. Being that I don't reload. Have you tried match grade ammo?

Look up freeboar boost. When u add a suppressor it acts like it is in a larger barrel without having contact with the bullet. It's how ruger made their latest suppressor barrel

Out of curiosity, were the factory rounds the first rounds threw the barrel? If so I would like to see a re visit of the factory ammo. I am a huge proponent of reloading but have a hard time believing that ammo was that far off. I think the groups will get tighter after the barrel breaks in and goes threw a couple cleanings.

@airborneivan

6 жыл бұрын

Steve Griffith I believe they were. I have the same rifle in the same caliber. I had the same results with factory loads until I had about 20 rounds through the barrel. Then the groups really started to tighten up substantially. If he puts a Winchester M-70 target spring then it will drop the trigger pull to about 3lbs and would most likely translate to even better accuracy or at the very least more consistent groups.

Smokey Mountain Guns and Ammo has them for 274.99 and free shipping at the moment.

Looks like you've got a shooter!

wait, why is the nail polish on your bench? Do you get all gussied up when you reload? nvm, I watched the trigger bit at the end and now I know what it's for.

So looks like all you need to get even light trigger pull is get a couple of thinner nuts. Or just sand/grind the sides of those. Or just one nut and some red loctite. So easy to mod.

RL17 is the "export" name for swiss RS60 powder as far as I know, and it's excellent :) We shoot that a lot in out 7.5x55 here.

@daviddale3624

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you dearly Switzerland for all the excellent components. NAMMO is one more reason to love the Swiss and all Nordic countries.

@minutemanqvs

6 жыл бұрын

David Dale Reload Swiss is actually owned by Rheinmetall these days :p

Just picked up my Compass today for $199.99 after rebate.

Try some Hybrid 100V with the bullet weights you used here I get some awesome performance out of it. Great video and you will never understand accuracy till you reload.

the better way I found to do the shooting to select a load is, have 1st break in the rifle, not doing in the same time, 2nd, shoot 1 load each time at a 5 minutes intervals, so the temperature is the same or almost the same across the 5 diferent loads. and of course with the system to cool down the barrel the same for all, at the begning I shot some 5 shots with over the counter to get the temperaturure the same, with this I have great results