This UNNOTICED Screw Detail Makes a Big Difference! (COARSE THREAD vs. FINE THREAD)
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This UNNOTICED Screw Detail Makes a Big Difference! (COARSE THREAD vs. FINE THREAD)
Most people don't look too closely at the screws that they use...and they might ignore the screw threads altogether. But the orientation and size of the screw threads plays a huge role in fastener usage!
Coarse Thread screws are better for softer materials, like SOFTWOODS and PLYWOODS.
These materials also account for the majority of lumber that we use in residential construction. Therefore, most of our common screws are coarse thread.
But, Fine Thread screws are better for harder materials, like METALS and HARDWOODS. The narrower, shorter threads are less aggressive, and establish more contact points with the material. (However, they often require pre-drilling for usage with lumber.)
Both DRYWALL SCREWS and POCKET SCREWS tend to come in both coarse thread and fine thread.
Fine drywall screws are for driving into steel studs and other soft, thin metals. Coarse drywall screws are for driving into wood.
Fine pocket screws are for embedding into hardwood face frames. Coarse pocket screws are for embedding into softwood face frames, like pine.
Thanks for watching!
The Honest Carpenter
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BTW, my high school AP Physics teacher told us that a screw is essentially just a conical or cylindrical section with an inclined plane wrapped around the section. It was a cool explanation about how we use simple geometry to do so much work for us. That was over 40 years ago, and I still think about it every time a use a screw. Some lessons just stick with you forever.
@Kittyququmber
5 ай бұрын
Interesting, remembering my junior school math teacher telling me two points make a straight line. I could not grasp what he meant. Yet now decades later i always remember him when cutting or sewing a straight line🙏
@rickyspanish9625
5 ай бұрын
Yep just a big spiraled wedge, and a wedge needs to have a normal force to produce friction and stay tight. Which is why when people set toilets without the plastic washers under the metal ones they eventually come loose due to the lack of deformation of the plastic. As a plumber I see this often.
@planerdude88
5 ай бұрын
Until the Alzheimer's hits
@MrCaveman74
5 ай бұрын
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@Nurturing2
3 ай бұрын
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@dirtfarmer7472
5 ай бұрын
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@tomasprochazka6198
4 ай бұрын
It's because he has something to say.
I can always count on honest carpenter to show me the right way to DIY❤
@partsdave8943
6 ай бұрын
“This is the way…” Couldn’t resist a Mandalorian reference. 😊
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Alicia! 🙂
Love your videos man. As a DYI guy, I love learning all this stuff so I can so I can do it right. Thank you!
I've always known fine thread for hardwood and course thread for softwood, but I never really thought about it in such detail. Thanks for the deep dive into the topic. I'll pay more attention to which type of screw I use for given applications.
@ianbelletti6241
6 ай бұрын
Fine thread is often used for metals as well.
Coarse-thread screws are generally used for quick assembly, while fine-thread screws provide better holding strength. Coarse threads are more resistant to stripping, making them suitable for softer materials, while fine threads are effective in harder materials. The choice depends on the specific application and materials being used.
@cytoarchitect
3 ай бұрын
You're right to feel offended, since that was obviously a personal comment directed at you alone. Despite the fact that the sole purpose of that comment was to insult your intelligence however, I thought it was useful to see this comment and have the question answered in about a second, as opposed to having to sit through an entire 5 min video@@n40tom
@n40tom
3 ай бұрын
@cytoarchitect And if I offended you then I apologize also. I think I might have been having a bad night so I will delete my first comment . Take care and be safe
@cytoarchitect
3 ай бұрын
We all have bad days. The world needs more integrity and humility, as you've shown. I respect you for that. Keep your head up brother @@n40tom
Growing up, my dad taught me and my sister the two "basic screws" and had us retrieve them every time so we learned. "Go to the workbench and grab me a handful of "wood screws". "Go to the workbench and grab me a handful of "sheet metal screws". My dad was a jack of all trades and a master mechanic where he worked so he knew them all in detail but that was just his easy way of teaching us when we were little. I always loved dad's life lessons. He's a very smart man.
The drywall screw thread type finally makes sense after all these years, I made the mistake to buy fine thread once and it was the worst time installing drywall. Thanks for the explanations, always well delivered and easy to understand.
Thank you again for another great video. In these past three years you have helped elevate the quality of my projects by like 35%. That's a lot
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, vaz! I take great pride in a 35% margin 😄
THIS is one of those videos that makes notice of the intricate details of screw fasteners I would have never thought about. I'm a DIY'er, and I know there are coarse and fine options, but never gave much thought as to why. I always simply thought the screw was crappy if it didn't go through the wood or metal well. Thank you for this.
Thanks for this. Not only was it good information, but your illustrations were great and your explanations were well-paced and in-depth without being pedantic or condescending.
I learn so much from you as a novice 77 year old woman who loves working with wood. I know all these tips help to create a better outcome. I craft and DIY a lot so these tips come in handy. You know so much about so much! Glad I found your site.
Thanks for answering a long-standing question I’ve had. Great explanation. Thank you!
As a 30 yr. kitchen remodeler, installing mostly oak cabinets, I always pre-drilled the face frame, used Jorgensen wood clamps & Ivory soaped, fine threaded screws👍
I learned at an early age through experimentation that screw thread spacing is related to the material you are screwing into, which you so clearly explain! ❤
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thanks JC! With enough experimenting, it all starts to become clear. 😁
@JCtheMusicMan_
6 ай бұрын
@@TheHonestCarpenter absolutely! Learning the hard way has always been my default due to impatience and just grabbing the nearest “screw”. As I got older I decided that going to the hardware store to get the right tools for the job was an overall time and materials saver, which I learned by doing it wrong 🤣
Dude. I’ve always wondered why there was different threads on dry wall screws etc. your explanation was so on point. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for informing me.
Thank you so much for sparing us the long-winded intro and getting straight to the point. Your lack of gratuitousness and concise, efficient tutorial has earned you another subscriber. Now it's time for me to check out your back catalogue of videos!
Great explanation thank you!
Great, easy to understand coverage of an often overlooked construction & woodworking detail. Thanks for making us smarted.
great explanation - thanks
Never even thought about some of that, great vid.
Thanks for this!
Love ypur video's and the explanations. Thanks
Great explanations thanks.
Nice presentation. Simple and to the point.
Excellent, concise compilation of information on screw threads. Thank you. I learned stuff today 😁
I appreciate clear and and concise information so I really appreciate your content. Thanks for another great video, Honest Carpenter dude!
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Orwellian! I appreciate the positive feedback 😄
Excellent summary . .
Always learn something from you.
Well-timed topic for me, thanks!
Just in time for my project. About to order a bunch when I encountered this two types. About to DIY a Loft bed and some cabinets. Thanks for the very informative video.
Thank you for the lesson 😊
That was a very helpful video!
Your videos are always so interesting and detailed! :)
Thanks for teaching me how to properly screw.
Thank you. I love that you got straight to the point with clear succinct explanations interspersed with some great demonstrations of how, where and why. Some content creators seem to love the sound of their own voices more than they love actually teaching/demonstrating anything. As a middle aged spinster on a fixed income, l've had to teach myself all sorts of DIY skills over the years. I nearly didn't bother watching this cos, my first thought was, - Meh, screws apart from, wood, metal, drywall or self tapping. What's to know? - I love how wrong l was. l was hoping you'd also clarify why the unthreaded part varies in length but, you may have done that in other videos. Have subscribed and am off to learn some more from your other videos. Thanks. 😊
the info i didn't know i needed! THANKS
AMAZING KNOWLEDGE,THANK YOU SIR
Great information as usual!…thanks!…😊
Thanks for making this video. It's good to know I remembered why they have different threads.
Thanks Ethan, great explaination.
this is a good tip!
Information I didn't know I needed lol. Your videos are always excellent!
Matthias Wandel just did a pull-out test in hard maple and found them to be almost identical. Softwoods are probably a lot different.
Very helpful. Thanks!!!!!
Great explanation. Thank you. 🙂
Thank you 😃👍
I just thought they made different types of screws! This was very informative. Thanks!
Awesome information! Thank you so much!😊
I thought this was super helpful! Thank you so very much for your channel.
Yes Ethan takes the details and makes them clear. Thanks for your knowledge sharing. 🥶🖤🔔👍🏻❤️
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Mary Beth!
I knew the general idea of the difference, but this added some details that I had not considered. Thanks!
Love your Channel! You’ve saved me so much grief over the years that I can’t even quantify it! Huge! Lol. Thanks so much.
Hi Ethan. I knew that but I appreciate the in-depth explanation. I really enjoy your videos. You do an excellent job presenting your material and excitedly await your new content. 😊😊😊😊😊
I’ve always wondered!
Never knew the difference. Thanks!
This is an excellent, informative video. It got you another sub.
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@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
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Thank you
Interesting and useful, thanks
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Thanks, I didn't even know I wanted to know that...but i did.👍
Great tips, Ethan. Thank you!
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Sharon!
Brilliant video as always.
Great video as always. For years I've always really wondered about this, Had a general idea about the differences, but this helped me really understand them. Also, really TGP's idea for a video about all the different head screws. That would definitely be a great video. Thanks for all the great info you provide. Take care
This is an excellent vid.
Great video! Maybe you could do one on the different types of screws, like wood screws, machine screws, etc. and how to tell the difference by looking at the heads, and why the heads are the shape they are. Keep up the great work!
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Great idea, tgp! I will indeed do that video. So much to be said about screws!
That’s great to know cheers
wow, awesome information. just subscribed.
Now, that is the exact opposite that I thought it would be. Once again, another educational video. Thank you!
Great information. Thank you
This is the kind of niche knowledge I come here to find. Keep up the good work!
Wow! This is exactly the info I needed…coincidently I’ve been trying to figure out oak that is the outer wood & pine which is the inner…thanks!
Thanks for sharing, it's really useful. I normally don't even notice the difference, but will look out for it now. 😀😄
This was a big help and you explained a lot of things I had not considered before! Thanks for sharing this.
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome, John!
Thanks Ethan
Thank you!
Very informative video ethan. I learnt something fine screws threads for hardwoods.
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Paul! 👍
I've always wondered about that.
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Nate, you are the man! Great video and I myself never considered it but knew it through experience - but without thinking too much about it. Ironic for me. I often overthink everything. You explained it well. Thank you.
@michaellacaria910
6 ай бұрын
That’s good to know, thanks for pointing that out because sometimes I don’t have the fine thread. As Ethan points out here, the way they go in makes a difference and i pre drill hardwoods and so far so good, although i do experience that squeak once in a while.
This guy is so good I save his videos BEFORE I even watch them!!
I love GRK structural screws 😄 They're super strong.
Thanks, that was a good and helpful explanation. I knew most of this through trial and error, but hadn't thought it through: why those fine threads suck on soft wood, or why sheet metal and pole barn screws are both fine and coarse, or why those fine thread door closer screws they supply always rip out of my pine door frame on a windy day.
Great content
The type of thread is everything
So basically what you'd think, thanks for the details
What a great video! He answered a question I didn't even know I had.
@TheHonestCarpenter
5 ай бұрын
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There are a couple of things that I see even experienced carpenters do that drive me crazy. First thing is using a screw with threads all the way up the shank to attach two boards, without pre-drilling the top board. This results in the screw tightening all the way down to the first board, but the two boards are not sucked tight together. Secondly, is using drywall screws where construction screws should be used. For those that don't know the difference between drywall and construction screws, try this. Drive a construction screw half way into a 2 by 4 and use a hammer to hit it side to side. You'll find it just keeps bending. Try the same with a drywall screw and in the first few blows it will snap off. Obviously using sheet rock screws for things like framing can be dangerous
@bogtrottername7001
6 ай бұрын
You are correct ! Drywall screws are not for structural use because the hardening process makes them brittle.
@gorkyd7912
6 ай бұрын
@@bogtrottername7001 Nah. They're still incredibly strong and if they're driven all the way in they're not going to take a lateral hit from a hammer-like object bending them almost 90 degrees very frequently, so if there's no construction screws on hand then using a few cheap drywall screws tends to work just fine. Project Farm did a shear test for similarly-sized screws and nails 4 years ago and it showed drywall screws actually out-performing deck screws and GRK construction screws (and all nails). Probably because that extra "brittleness" resists bending, and the failure comes not from shearing off (which doesn't happen) but from bending which simply pulls the threads out of the static board. So actually drywall screws can be better. Goodbye.
@jamescathcart4762
5 ай бұрын
I built hundred of fences with dry wall screws. Also lots of repair work for thirty years. Always held up. Never a call back. Thats a fact Jack!@@gorkyd7912
Awesome info.
Been watching your video long time. Please continue these Great Videos.
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jack! I will 🙂
Excellent presentation
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
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🙋♂️ETHAN …THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THE DETAILS 🧐 HELPING OLD AND NEW ONES 🤗👍💚💚💚
@TheHonestCarpenter
6 ай бұрын
You’re welcomed, Budget! 😄
Awesome blister.
This is one of those things I'd never know had you not told me. I was totally clueless.
Great explanation for the screw thread types most appreciated 👍 Could you be persuaded to do a video on nail types too, ie the twisted nails you use for joist hangers etc.. ❤
@TheHonestCarpenter
5 ай бұрын
I’ll definitely cover some nails in the future too, Jamie!