This sort of ridiculous gamble meme strategy is one of the things that makes this game enjoyable and I'd be sad if the revolution mechanic was crippled even further. This particular strategy is obviously not going to be competitive as it's only viable if the opponent fails to apply any pressure for the first ten minutes and builds all the wrong units. As already stated, mounted Granaderos already got nerfed several times, have many counters owing to a large number of tags, and can only be obtained by sacrificing most of your economy.

6:40 Obviously, it's not a Heavy Infantry unit. That was a typo, I've gone ahead and patched the mod to fix that. The Mounted Granader is actually labeled a Heavy Cav / Light Cav hybrid, which does mean that it takes bonus from both anti-heavy and anti-light cav fighters.

@Widgie

Ай бұрын

Good to hear! Thanks for your hard work on this

Revolting is a skill thing. Dont say you don't revolt because... you are not good enough yet to play them properly.

The French 🥖 seemed to apply literally no pressure to Italy, which basically means they were screwed by the Italian economy (free villagers with technologies, Architects, Lombards). They also did not get all the available Trading Posts or build Town Centers to keep up with the boom. Italy even managed to get 2 European Royal House minor civilisations, which allowed getting their technologies. Argentina is probably best with Germans. It is the best late game for a normal Germany deck, because Germany has no late game stalemate breaker unit like Grenadiers to deal with buildings. It also has extreme synergy with Germantown Farmers.

Widgie, it is not stupid. There are other strats too that will punish hard if you leave them alone for 15 minutes. This was a treaty game. Saying that this strat is too good based on this game is very unintelligent.

Anything against Italy as France... Gribeauval System for that Juicy Damage increase on artillery? Then they can go toe-to-toe with the Tent-Culverins of Italy.

I was main Argentina using germany or spain 😂 until the devs nerfed them like 5 times 😢... Now its pretty easy to counter them, just use skirmishers, heavy infantry or dragons. I prefer heavy infantry with high hp, and behind them, using dragons. Because granaderos has every tag, like heavy cav, light cav, outlaws, ranged light cav. Etc. So NOW there are pretty sh*t unit, because they are countered by every damn unit of the game. 😢

@robertdockhorn1394

Ай бұрын

Thats what i thought too but it often turns out a lil different. Remember these guys have over 400 hp, 30% resistance and 3,5 area of effect with the tech. Ive crushed pure skirm goon with granaderos (im the guy from the Video btw) One of the most effective counters as far as cost effective were actually stagger mode caroleans with both age 3 cards (range plus Bonus dmg)

@WensBlog

Ай бұрын

@@robertdockhorn1394 yeah! I just remembered, using high hp heavy cav also works, and behind them, using any anti cav, it's pretty strong

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

Ай бұрын

Remember to use Stagger Mode with your light infantry though. Also play defensively 🛡 as after its 2 main cards (San Martin and Granaderos) Argentina fall off a bit for a while. For Germans, Argentina is probably the best late game over Imperial Age though. Germans have no late game stalemate breaker unit to deal with buildings like Grenadiers. And it has extreme synergy with Germantown Farmers.

and recommend dont skip around w the transitions. just watch the game. you could fast fwd the game at 2x or whatever but dont just skip through fam

@Widgie

Ай бұрын

When I’m streaming live on Twitch I always like to play it at normal speed. This video was more to demonstrate the end goal of revolting which meant that the majority of the start and mid weren’t required.

Desert warriors, if you can get them, might be a counter to Gauchos. Desert warriors don't have the best ranged attacks, but they can be a melee unit with a multiplier to damage against cavalry and siege resistance in the right stance. Doesn't help in this case but could lead to potential counter play in other games.

The unit beats skirms and goons per cost despite the bonus damage both do, I’ve tested it and that’s in low numbers, these units obviously get better the more of them there are. It 100% needs to be nerfed but notice here a lot of strong units that needed nerfs lately are ranged cavalry? Why? Because Skirms are such a baby counter to range cav in the first place. Of all counters in the game, skirms by far kill range cav the slowest and making matters worse is that ranged cav can easily flee the fight. So any ranged cav unit that is slightly overturned stands out like a sore thumb. Mounted grens ‘do’ lose to most hand cav per cost but the problem is hand cav will bump into each other in large numbers and thus don’t work efficiently.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana

Ай бұрын

You probably need to use stagger mode. And upgrade them to match the Mounted Grenadaro, which is Guard level strong with Folk Heroes.. You can also use hand attack mode with the light ranged cavalry, as they Mounted Grenadaros have less dps in hand attack mode, when accounting for them not having siege damage or an area of effect.

Hungary stills kicks. Really hard with otto outpost boon, as you will have two ridiculous heavy cavs, spahi and mayar. With malta is fun too, but you must have that theaters card or you can ger pop cap too soon

wb putting goons on melee? dont they still have multipliers against cav in melee and their higher speed means they wont be kited like infantry.

put out more videos man. if you build it they will come

berber would go brrr

Granaderos have rate of siege 3... So doble de dps

It may be still pretty strong unit in normal supremacy game, but in treaty games... they are pretty sh*t units.

wow I didn't realize I was this early to video, just 2 min The vast majority of revolutions give you max pop upon revolting

@WensBlog

Ай бұрын

Not really 😂, if you lose your houses, after revolting, you will see that you still lose pop cap.

@robertdockhorn1394

Ай бұрын

Only some revolts (i Think exclusevely the ones where u keep ur eco) dont give max Pop but in general u have max Pop after revo.

@eldinfehric6717

Ай бұрын

Depends on the revolt you doing Example:central america will not give you max pop

A rush maybe

Argentina is so op, thanks for sharing!

@raptorhacker599

Ай бұрын

not

This game has become a joke because it's so unbalanced. Even in team games you have players competing against each other with skill levels that are too far apart making the games unbalanced. The multiplayer feature should have more categories for 1v1 and team games based on levels. For example: 1v1 (1000 elo) 1v1 (1100 elo) Teams: 2v2 (1000) 2v2 (1100) 3v3 (1000) 3v3 (1100) etc... This will make the game much more playable and fun and it will be more balanced.

this bullsh1t has to be nerfed ASAP, im tired of low elo bastards that dont even know how to micro doing this and winning

I really hope they nerf the Revolts BIG TIME next patch. It is really a ruin to any attemt to balance the game. And btw, you automatic get 200 pop when revolting. No need for houses