Additional info for nerds about 2:20 courtesy of Nystemy on the forum: "Coming in really quickly here to inform why there is differences between keeping the Flash warm or cool. When one writes to a Flash memory cell, then the device creates a fairly intense electric field across the insulation surrounding the floating gate making up the cell. This forces some electrons to get trapped in or ripped out of the floating cell (depending on what the manufacturer thinks is better, both technically works.) But each time this is done, it adds a bit of damage to the insulation, making it less good at stopping current from flowing through it. The Flash cell is in effect just a fancy low leakage capacitor. And the faster the charge leaks out from it, the faster it forgets. (And for DLC ("MLC"), TLC, and QLC cells, it forgets even faster due to the smaller charge differences it has to deal with from the get go.) But how does operating temperature play a part in this? Well, the insulation simply has higher leakage when warm, and doesn't need to break down as hard when that current is forced through it. But likewise, the warm temperature has the deficit that the insulation also leaks more current, so the cells forgets faster. In short. If you want to put the drive on a shelf for 10 years, then keep it cool. If you want to use it as a scratch disk for a storage/computing server, then keep it warm. And if you use it as something in-between these two extremes, then it is a bit more of a mix..." Anyway, have a good day and the LTT Forum is awesome -Alex

@arsanagaming2429

3 жыл бұрын

Wow great!!

@Priyajit_Ghosh

3 жыл бұрын

Great Info. If possible, can you edit and attach it in the video.

@TheEandRTeam

3 жыл бұрын

Ok

@zodiacfml

3 жыл бұрын

tldr: no user intervention required as no one uses SSDs for long term storage, pricey and less reliable than discs or tape

@Haleskinn

3 жыл бұрын

also, open bench vs turning the computer sideways, heat transfers from bottom to top, so gpu will heat it up alot more then, redo the tests or get unsubscribed, sorry linus but do things correclty please, 99% of people are not running open air bench

It's only a matter of time before we get water cooled water coolers

@mikemitchell9157

3 жыл бұрын

Jay did that already

@stevenarvizu3602

3 жыл бұрын

Water cooled D5 pumps

@eerie4671

3 жыл бұрын

what about water cooled water coolers water coolers

@daviddin8863

3 жыл бұрын

You mean like water sprayers on intercoolers with cars.

@user-lo9oh4ti6m

3 жыл бұрын

Then we'll need to cool down the two water cooler of the cpu

"Not everything hot is kissable" -Electroboom

@Kholaslittlespot1

3 жыл бұрын

Bridges being rectified

@Kholaslittlespot1

3 жыл бұрын

WITH WATER

@ddc171

3 жыл бұрын

Not everything kissable is hot

@Kholaslittlespot1

3 жыл бұрын

@@ddc171 Oh you're bloody correct with that statement

@ThunderBlastvideo

3 жыл бұрын

Famous last words...

They should make a video with as many water-cooled components as possible

@zahylon5993

2 жыл бұрын

With a custom loop...it's theorically possible to water-cool the CPU, GPU, RAM & SSD

@Ceece20

2 жыл бұрын

@@zahylon5993 not good enough. We need to watercool the motherboard, fans, waterblock, water pump, case, PSU, water pipes, keyboard, mouse, headsets, displays, router, and modem! /sarcasm/

@MNsLegoChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@zahylon5993 That would be so cool to see! Like so Linus sees!

@capsulate8642

2 жыл бұрын

@@zahylon5993 There's a couple boards where you could watercool the motherboard VRMs as well, and there are HDD waterblocks. Though mineral oil cooling would be simpler at that point

@diablo.the.cheater

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ceece20 Why not watercool yourself at that point? leave a pipe outside that you can wrap around yourself for extra coolness in summer

There's something just beautiful about having a water cooled SSD next to an air cooled CPU.

@user-bg6yb1ot8n

Жыл бұрын

The only thing it lacks is a passively cooled GPU

@Bossfightmedia

Жыл бұрын

I honestly still heavily distrust water cooling to this day. Air cooling all the way. xD

@penguin12902

Жыл бұрын

@Kaymerra same. I can sleep easy knowing there's no chance of a leak or a pump failure. If I need more cooling I can turn my home thermostat cooler lol.

@DialecticRed

Жыл бұрын

​@Ms Moon Boo The real question though is if the increase in performance is worth the money. In most cases I don't think it's a big enough deal, but at least for me whats more important is noise, so when I build my next PC it is almost certainly going to have water cooling.

@penguin12902

Жыл бұрын

@DialecticRed water cooling isn't any quieter than air...you still have fans.

Corsair: What shall we watercool next? *Introducing the new Corsair CMOS Battery water block*

@BackwardsPancake

3 жыл бұрын

Watercool the LED strips! Might look sort of sick if you design it right, actually...

@Michael18751

3 жыл бұрын

You might be on to something, I replaced my 4 year old CMOS battery that was in a laptop that was very hot and it was expanding (Or slightly inflated) lmao

@AfonsoBucco

3 жыл бұрын

maybe they could watercool the pumps of watercooling system

@AfonsoBucco

3 жыл бұрын

well the engine batteries of tesla are water-cooled, but I don't know what about the tesla's panel's clock. maybe Musk is lying to me and not every batteries of the car are water-cooled.

@iPhoneAppReviewer

3 жыл бұрын

@@AfonsoBucco the battery in the Tesla key fob is the same as a CMOS battery so I think we just figured out how to get corsair more business.

Linus: "Water is awesome, thank you, water" ... perfect segue way to lttstore water bottles and you missed it? :o

@GahloWake

3 жыл бұрын

If the segue isn't a trainwreck, is it really LTT?

@_AKA_Smile_

3 жыл бұрын

oh my god wow

@waterflame321

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@retartedfreak

3 жыл бұрын

/glycol has entered the chat

@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62

3 жыл бұрын

he doesn't even need to mention the store at this point, you just autofill in the segue yourself lmao

Manufacturers: We made SSDs smaller! Also Manufacturers: Buy this massive water cooler for your new ssd

@Anytyme06

2 жыл бұрын

Who's buying water-cooling just for the ssd?

@godofnothing520

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anytyme06 Rich kids probably buy it. They will buy the best for their PC.

@Anytyme06

2 жыл бұрын

@@godofnothing520 if they're going to liquid cool, they're going to liquid cool everything they can not just the SSD.

@SamadKhan-lm8zr

Жыл бұрын

@@godofnothing520 pi k

@gamertechlive1780

Жыл бұрын

@@Anytyme06 i did nearly a year before this video release. Nvme ssd waterblock is available a two year or more than before this vid. I got a bykski nvme waterblock nearly a year before this video LOL. And i have 2 of those and connect it in my loop. Why not? Im water cooling my pc so why not add it? Nvme really goes hot to be honest well adding a loop to cool this down is overkill but if you have a existing loop or building a new loop its better to add it. Just like the vid review says it have 0 flow restriction bur effectively cools the nvme a lot better than a bare aluminum heatsink.

"My pc is watercooled." "By that, i mean, the SSD is watercooled."

When I worked at Nokia, we were experimenting with 3D chip stacking and had a combo NAND/DDR package mounted on top of the CPU, effectively working as a heat spreader. Under normal conditions this was fine, but in double-precision FP workloads, we'd see a thermal hotspot in the CPU and observe periodic bit flips in the memory/flash package directly above. We worked around this in production by dynamically clocking down the CPU to stay within thermal tolerances, but there are certainly valid use cases where cooling NAND is essential.

@QuantaviousJiggleJrIII

3 жыл бұрын

Tell us the secrets. How did you guys make it unbreakable? my cousin had one and has it to this day and I found it, and dropped it off a 3 story building. No cracks

@ihack4fun979

3 жыл бұрын

its vibranium simple.

@paulmundt3990

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuantaviousJiggleJrIII Different quality standards and consumer expectations at the time. 20 years ago a product line couldn't bring a phone to market if it didn't survive drop tests and last at least 10 days on standby. Once the consumer market shifted to demanding BT+wifi and large touchscreens, sustaining either of those was no longer possible. In those days, even finding any supplier that could provide ~10million high resolution touchscreens per month for a mass-market phone was a challenge. Nokia was, somewhat amusingly, actively engaged in litigation with half of its supply chain at any given time, but still sourcing from them, as there just weren't any other options! Crazy times.

@diegon3045

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulmundt3990 Idk if they do, but I wish that mobile companies like Samsung, apple, etc.. Also made a drop test, my Huawei wouldn't be as cracked as it is right now if they did a drop test, like i said idk if they do drop tests but yeah, this would've helped me a lot recently

@kingzach74

3 жыл бұрын

@@diegon3045 OnePlus does drop tests on their phones in their factories. Look up the LTT video OnePlus Quality Control.

I would 100% watercool some capture cards I've used just for the peace of mind or to eliminate tiny noisy fans.

@robertt9342

3 жыл бұрын

Would strapping large fans or having fans on flexible mounts pointed at the capture cards help?

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertt9342 You can try tearing down the capture card, replace stock cooler with those tiny VRM/Memory heatsink on Amazon, then stick some Noctua 40mm fans on top with adhesive tape. I saw someone watercooled a Magewell card but I think you would have to make your own bracket if you wanna go custom loop.

@DenshiMoe

3 жыл бұрын

I slapped an Xbox 360 heatsink on one of my generic USB capture cards as a passive cooler and it worked like a charm. I can touch it without burning myself now. Haha!

@doggo_eating_tree8502

3 жыл бұрын

What's up checkmark?

@Tylor_taichou

3 жыл бұрын

An EposVox comment? I guess this is a sign that maybe I should hurry up and try streaming again lol.

0:22 I like the way he said “A water cooled”

I feel like this has gotta be a product they engineered for a client and then did a production run on just because they had the tooling available. There's clearly not a great performance reason for doing this, but if limiting the heat footprint of your system matters a lot I could see this being a relevant device in certain Industrial and commercial use settings

"Nobody is going to be constantly max loading a drive for days on end" **Chia miner has entered the chat.**

@davisbradford7438

3 жыл бұрын

Notice that the CPU was pegged at near 100% utilization. This means that the "green" high efficiency argument of low power storage vs GPU's is no longer valid. Also GPU's don't have write endurance.

@thaddeusk

3 жыл бұрын

@@davisbradford7438 CPUs use far less power than a typical GPU, though.

@TheBogimen

3 жыл бұрын

@@davisbradford7438 they do have, its called MTBF (mean time between failures)

@davisbradford7438

3 жыл бұрын

@@thaddeusk Not when you're pulling 200+ watts just writing to storage.

@ButtKickington

3 жыл бұрын

@@davisbradford7438 Chia plots are stored on spinning rust once they are created and are meant to last a decade plus. Plotting can also be done on a ramdisk with like 300+ gb of memory. Meaning practically no wear. The only issue is how the centralized the currency is due to the Chinese client that controls most of the network. Basically there wasn't any pools, so the Chinese (hpool) released a proprietary client and pool. Reading Chia's Pooling FAQ on their wiki, it says "[...] even if a pool has 51% netspace, they would also need to control All of the farmer nodes (with the 51% netspace) to do any malicious activity." You can put 2 and 2 together to see that hpool owns Chia.

Well… I hate destroying hardware buuuuut: Could you conduct a test where you leave this synthetic benchmark running until the drive dies to gain insight on the actual drive lifetime? Would be exceptionally interesting to be honest.

@JohnyZockt

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, would be super cool if we could see a drive dying. How does it die, does it happen slowly, like files go corrupt rdmly etc.?

@cjmoz24

3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnyZockt think of SSD’s as refillable bubble wrap, as data is stored on them, some bubbles are popped and some are left filled. Over time, once they’re popped, they can’t be refilled. Hence no more data can be stored on them!

@escasey88

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjmoz24 I have no idea if you are trustworthy or some rando on the interwebz just saying stuff.. But this comment is so concise and informative I had to reply and give it a thumbs up. Now to go research and use your comment to help me understand what I'm about to read.

@RobBCactive

3 жыл бұрын

There was a site that ran a write to destruction test on a whole load of drives, instead of finishing in a few months it was years of constant writes before every drive died.

@bug5654

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobBCactive Gotta get the MTTF numbers from somewhere.

"It's not particularly user friendly, but what it is, is extremely customizable." Tell me something I don't know about computers.

You should have tested it in a water-cooled system to test it in the main use case. It might be interesting to see if water-cooling the SSD matters when the system components right next to it are producing less heat

@j4k275

2 жыл бұрын

Very true

@Euronjuusto999

Жыл бұрын

Very true

Someday Corsair's Fully water-cooled cases would be out in the market

@Apersonl0l

3 жыл бұрын

Just throw the motherboard into a fish tank and call it a day

@wingdragonzero

3 жыл бұрын

Cant wait till that game comes

Linus: "Only the next 15 minutes can tell us" The video: *only lasts 14 minutes*

@kineticbongos

3 жыл бұрын

@Tom Simons ᨆ r/whooosh

@Tearcane

3 жыл бұрын

@@kineticbongos never thought i could see a whooosh as dumb as that one

@15Minoda

3 жыл бұрын

That's efficiency!

@VitalVampyr

3 жыл бұрын

You'll need at least 1 minute to ponder the ramifications.

@null301_

3 жыл бұрын

@@kineticbongos dude get out

The flow rate reminds me of back when watercooling was in its infancy, and there were two types of loops you could build (high restriction with tiny tubing diameter, and low restriction with huge tubes).

@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305

Жыл бұрын

Haha yea i remember that people woukd argue woukd eheim pump flow as well. I still have my maze 2 and maze 3 block and my eheim pump. In fact i used my dangerden maze all the way from my durong athlon xp athlon 64 athlon 64 duel core.. opteron.. and e 8400 wolfdale... lol

Corsair after too many episodes of Pimp My Ride: "We heard you like Watercooling, so we put a watercooler IN your watercooler!"

Meanwhile all Chia miners: _"only 2% down?"_

@randomd2146

3 жыл бұрын

@Badr Ahmed yeah

@interlace84

3 жыл бұрын

@Badr Ahmed all crypto causes extreme waste-- most of those countless Petawatts burned for mining worldwide aren't green at all.

@vukasinmaslovaric

3 жыл бұрын

@@muxite6035 then try "idena".

@allansh828

3 жыл бұрын

dude, chia plotting has moved to RAM and Optane becuase of the new plotter runs much much faster on those.

@marceelino

3 жыл бұрын

@@interlace84 with the new ETH 2.0 it will go down

The simplicity of that block definitely makes it a meme

@no9560

3 жыл бұрын

lol ikr

@ValentineC137

3 жыл бұрын

The simplicity of that block makes it price-competetive with aircooled SSD heatsinks :p Actually thought it was dumb until they showed that it actually costs the same as a normal heatsink, so it makes perfect sense if you were watercooling anyway

@Brahvim

3 жыл бұрын

Wh- _Here I go replying to another Verilisify comment._

@user-vr2qp2hi8z

3 жыл бұрын

arent you busy cheating

@Teeh0

3 жыл бұрын

realistically you wouldn't gain anything from a more intricate part anyway

I honestly feel "the cooler the better" applies to almost anything that produces heat. Heat is rhe number one killer of just about everything. Me, you, your car engine, your cpu, your gpu, the earth at some point. Heat kills, period. Dont run it TOO cold because cold kills as well. Theres an optimal running temperature for everything, we just need to take the time to find them.

For the people who don’t know better or are not as old: In the 2000-2008s there were watercooled HDDs…..

So do I buy it or not? I NEED ANSWERS LINUS

@aeyde

3 жыл бұрын

yes'nt

@rogueanuerz

3 жыл бұрын

just say yolo

@200kadigade2

3 жыл бұрын

Sym

@salted6422

3 жыл бұрын

Do you need it? If yes, BUY IT. If no, BUY IT, because you don't want to miss out.

@Bread10010

3 жыл бұрын

@Tom Simons ᨆ hi fake tommyinnit

Can you water cool literally every part of a build? Maybe you’ve done it before, but it would be super entertaining and interesting to see a complete build with literally every part water cooled

3:23 “unfair to Corsair” It rhymes haha

"Aw crap I put the waterblock upside down" that is such a Linus thing for Linus to do.

@RobBCactive

3 жыл бұрын

PC centric managed to break the RGB connector off on his RX 6800 when disconnecting the cable with pliers, when fitting the water block.

@Alex-xd5wv

3 жыл бұрын

That poor graphics card.

@ross350tube

2 жыл бұрын

Um actually the slot he used was the reverse of most m.2 slots in that the entry direction of the drive was towards the rear , so he had it right , it’s the motherboard that was wrong/

Linus, can you make a fully water-cooled PC. Everything component in the system is water-cooled.

@smokeyninja9920

3 жыл бұрын

They've done it, right down to the psu

@markjacobs1086

3 жыл бұрын

water-cooled power on button on the case :P

@kernelpanic2887

3 жыл бұрын

Search YT for the mineral oil pc

@ZeroUm_

3 жыл бұрын

What about making the PC case out of a watercoolers

@TwinkleNZ

3 жыл бұрын

Water cooled water cooler

12:52 im so surprised he didn’t say “nice”

To me home water cooling has always been about aesthetics over performance. If you’re in a ac cooled room and have a remotely reasonable fan setup/case, it’s not really going to make a dramatically noticeable difference in terms of actual usage and not just measuring numbers. But it looks sweet, and adding another component to the loop might just make it look a little sweeter.

One of these times, I want to see Linus actually run a brand new drive completely through its endurance rating, and see what happens after.

@avenged110

3 жыл бұрын

Would like to see this video as well, just to see if he can kill it or if anything happens at certain wear levels.

@edwardallenthree

3 жыл бұрын

It stops writing. It's not dramatic, unless it is your boot drive, I guess.

@NoThrottle

3 жыл бұрын

generally it just becomes read-only.

@priestofhiro

3 жыл бұрын

only if he has to stream to whole thing, it would be a fine way to torture him. could make it a charity stream?

@patchworkkid24

3 жыл бұрын

yeah me too, just to see if it can last as long as manufactures say

Imagine how hot the SSD would have gotten inside an actual case like most people use, instead of a open air test bench.

@Bratfalken

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, vertical with the GPU oozing away it's heat from the backplane, and then a AIO cooled CPU with no fan other than casefans finding their way through the case to reach the M.2. There is a reason high end motherboards have heathsinks on these drives.

@philosaplease4867

3 жыл бұрын

I'd argue that a case with proper airflow keeps anything on the MB cooler because air is moving through the whole case. Test benches might subject VRMs or SSDs etc to less airflow.

3 жыл бұрын

A test bench doesn’t provide any airflow buddy, because there isn’t a chamber to direct air, air flows anywhere it wants. That doesn’t happens with a case, cool air in, hot air out, constantly.

@mrsheashea1375

3 жыл бұрын

@@philosaplease4867 A case with proper airflow is hard to find, most top 10 cases are usually glass paneled heaters lol. All the air flow in the world wont help you if you're SSD is hidden under your GPU like mine is. She gets toasty even with more then proper airflow.

@cwill2127

3 жыл бұрын

yeah no. In a case there’s directed airflow. In this open air test bendch there wasn’t any

If it only takes a few days to reach write endurance it would be really cool to see how much temperature really does affect the lifespan.

It would be really interesting to see the write/erase endurance testing taken to the drive limits. If any manufacturers would talk about how they address wear-leveling, that would be very cool to see as well.

I feel like it's also worth noting that building a custom water loop will keep your SSD cooler in that slot simply because those high heat components will then be dumping their heat into radiators instead of the air right beside the SSD. On the bright side though, for the cost of the fittings, this is an easy integration into a custom loop, so no harm no foul for Corsair I suppose.

@KunalVaidya

3 жыл бұрын

very good point. its just a little extra compared to normal air cooled heat sink style, and it give a great option for those who already have loop to plug this into. I think the pricing itself should be lauded. they gave an option to users (mostly gamers) who have a water cooling loop and didn't charge them an arm and leg for it

@HoosierHardware

3 жыл бұрын

@@KunalVaidya Totally agree. I was eyeing my own loop, and it'd be incredibly simple to add in if I wanted to go that direction. It's great that the price itself isn't the barrier to entry.

@MNsLegoChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@KunalVaidya The SSD itself is worth the money, as most good NVME SSDs with that capacity (especially ones with the same performance) are about the same price (some margin for error). The water block might have little benefit for most users, but some people will no doubt be able to gain performance in some cases, and for a drive this good, its still worth it.

@dstblj5222

2 жыл бұрын

@@HoosierHardware its honestly not because removing the fans on the cpu cooler and graphics card also masssively reduces airflow over those sections of the case making them worse thermally on them which is why watercooled stuff needs better vrms

@TheAdatto

2 жыл бұрын

Only VRM's are running hotter without forced air around cpu

We officially peaked in human innovation after this.

@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484

3 жыл бұрын

there are water coooled psu iirc

@dampe7438

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 that makes sense ngl

@cmeier360

3 жыл бұрын

@@dampe7438 And dangerous

@dvid_sju

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 imagine having a leak 🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣 boom

3 жыл бұрын

@@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484 which Linus reviewed already and it’s beyond useless. It’s just a regular modular PSU with a waterblock under it, because if you ever tore down a PSU, you would know that there is no physical way to put a waterblock on those giant ass capacitors. And there is no reason for a PSU to be watercooled anyway.

With Corsair also producing memory, do you think we'll see *properly watercooled memory* eventually?

@teddy4271

2 жыл бұрын

Not with DIMM slots being as close together as they are

@wolphin732

2 жыл бұрын

There is a EKWB water cooling for the ram... the block connects to heatsinks around each module, and the single water block does the whole bank of up to 4 chips.

11:30 That's 22.8 terabytes, not gigabytes, and (as you can see there) it's "Total Host Writes" which is the amount that's been written to the drive since it was made, not just in that last 1 hour benchmark. "Write Total" further down might be what you want, but it depends when that was reset. Also at 12:52 onscreen it says the updated price of the "Air Cool" version, but it appears just as you're talking about the price of the water cooled version, so I'm not sure which it's meant to be. So I think you were right about it being a bit mangled :P

At this point it has unironicly became the Xzibit meme: Yo dawg I heard you like watercooling. So I put watercooling in your watercooler so you can watercool, while you watercool

@DizzyBusy

2 жыл бұрын

Let's build the most watercooled watercooler we can watercool. It'll be so watercool!

"the next 15 minutes" The video is only 14 minutes! I need that extra minute of content about this SSD!

@thelastdirewolf3587

3 жыл бұрын

not about the ssd about the cooling

@LAST_STAND_FAN

3 жыл бұрын

The last minute is to reflect.

@thelastdirewolf3587

3 жыл бұрын

@@LAST_STAND_FAN talking to me? i menat that he was not talking about the ssd

@LAST_STAND_FAN

3 жыл бұрын

@@thelastdirewolf3587 That's a negative.

@thelastdirewolf3587

3 жыл бұрын

@@LAST_STAND_FAN whats a negative? of course he talked about the ssd a little bit but my point in further detail is that he wasnt mainly talking about the ssd

I work at WD with ssd testing. Our 2.5” drives need contant (fan) cooking at all times. Still they get to 100-120F. Our M.2 drives have massive cooling blocks on the controllers, otherwise they’d die almost immediately (this is enterprise/server hardware, not consumer). But yeah, they run better at lower temps and last longer. For some of our largest drives (16TB+) water cooling would not be a bad idea as the controllers run overtime

0:28 most normal segue in LTT history

"The only human I fear is the one who has watercooled water." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@suntzu1409

3 жыл бұрын

"I never said that." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@milkyway208O

3 жыл бұрын

"Candice died." -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

@nehankaranch2149

3 жыл бұрын

Me : pours cold water into a bucket of hot water

@suntzu1409

3 жыл бұрын

@@nehankaranch2149 Sun Tzu: Pours a bucket of hot water into a bucket of cold water

@GuigEspritDuSage

3 жыл бұрын

nuclear plants have: water constantly added to a water cooling evaporation loop (the big smokestacks are in fact water evaporation towers ) which: cool another water loop which cool the the core. Does it count as water cooling water?

"Burstie Loads" was my nickname in college

@i.t9390

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you go to

@mal2ksc

2 жыл бұрын

@@i.t9390 Probably University of North Australia, since the territory's marketing slogan is "CU in the NT".

@Slavicplayer251

2 жыл бұрын

@@mal2ksc haha good one

8:30 probably the water didn't just add thermal mass but also turned it into a very tiny, very inefficient closed loop water cooler, being just enough to keep it from throttling that badly.

I had a very tiny air-cooler on an M.2 once. It did reduce it from like 50 C to maybe 45 C. The PC form factor was very non-standard, so it was helpful. Edit: I also once just added a few random tiny heatsinks to one before, which was also nice. I ended up ripping the flash off when I tried to remove the heatsink.

@fatersteve

2 жыл бұрын

Oof

Linus: "Water's awesome. Thank you water." R/HydroHomies: "O Captain! My Captain!"

The most Corsair product I've ever seen. Wait no, needs LEDs

You could connect a tube to the in/out of the drive. More water, more surface area. Or could connect to a passive heat sink and make it an AIO.

Thanks for making all of this great videos. I love your channel.

But the most important question here is: *Does it scratch at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7?*

@calocitey1347

3 жыл бұрын

It’s metal.

@hypersonic6649

3 жыл бұрын

@@FoxDren r/woooosh.

Last time i was this early, Vancouver didn't had a 45° summer

@DaveYogs

3 жыл бұрын

Melt your ssd kinda heat in bc

@nicholasneyhart396

3 жыл бұрын

It is much cooler on the east coast. 30. c from the Northeastern U.S. to Southeast Canada. Still quite hot but nowhere near as bad.

@nilpybilpy4346

3 жыл бұрын

​@@nicholasneyhart396 Still boiling by normal standards though :{ (sorry didn't notice you'd already mentioned that)

@tamiwu0346

3 жыл бұрын

@Aroko 76 no man those people up there are dying to a cool fall day's worth of temperature.

@nicholasneyhart396

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. If you want that in f. It was about 100 on the west coast and in the mid 80s on the east coast.

The fact that now 2 years later this kind of tech may be necessary with things like the Crucial T700 existing.

What about any secondary benefits? Quickly routing that heat to be dispersed by your radiator could also reduce the amount of heat that would otherwise bleed over into surrounding components like your CPU or graphics card.

god: **makes water** humans: **pour water into ssds** god: *wait what*

@harbl99

3 жыл бұрын

Lucy: "I warned you about giving the monkeys brains _and_ opposable thumbs. You don't see whales doing this nonsense..."

@Masterhitman935

3 жыл бұрын

Zeus looking a pasadon with malicious intent.

@davisbradford7438

3 жыл бұрын

I've made water before. Does that make me a god?

@shadowr2d2

3 жыл бұрын

ODIN: Water for making Ale. For use in forging weapons. To remove blood stains from clothing. Loki: O, THOR catch this bucket. THOR: Dam-it Loki water, & Mjollnir don’t like each other..

@Masterhitman935

3 жыл бұрын

@Aroko 76 what so edgy about that?

Linus: people don't use 100% of your SSD for extended periods at a time me: extracting a 100GB game for the last 30min

@sjorsangevare

3 жыл бұрын

If you did that on this drive you'd be done in under a minute

@laxminarayanbhandari855

3 жыл бұрын

@@sjorsangevare OMG

@joes1176

3 жыл бұрын

chances are your internet is nowhere fast enough to actually download games at an NVME drives fastest speed (over 5000MB/s in case you were wondering, AKA 5gb/s), and if youre just extracting a game that big, chances are you didnt buy it... most games nowadays install as they download, building folders as you go, limiting you by your internet connection. a game on a disc cant hold enough information to give 100GB. the largest optical media (blue ray) can store a max of 50gb. so... stop stealing games i guess?

@svampebob007

3 жыл бұрын

@@joes1176 In ISP talk that's a 40Gbps line, most home lab/personal cloud would probably stay with 10Gbps or at "best" 20Gbps... unless you're a real baler and have a quad 10Gbps card or 100Gbps... witch at that point you're probably dealing with raid and doing enterprises stuff so effectively easing up the single drive load and or not having to buy/care about consumer grade SSD. Buuut like linus said if you're already running a custom water loop... why not :)

@omrhireubens3591

3 жыл бұрын

@@joes1176 yea tbh I didn't buy the game I was extracting a cracked game ( mass effect legendary edition )

6:40 Water watching the vid be like : Thanks man appreciate it...

I had two of those waterblocks on my loop, but I broke both discs when giving maintaining to the loop because I put too much pressure on putting the rigid tube, so if youre gonna do that just becareful when connecting to the loop.

0:13 Linus says "3 things", looks down and realizes he is holding up two fingers and a thumb, and for a brief moment, questions whether or not a thumb is considered a finger, then immediately moves on, deciding its best to just roll with it.

@jdraven0890

2 жыл бұрын

Germans: I fail to see your point.

Linus: this thing should last a long time Chia miners: challenge accepted

@sudhanshchourasia6454

3 жыл бұрын

bro, Why is this comment so under rated???

@captain_noodles

3 жыл бұрын

wasn't the crypto market banned by the CCP?? Or am I missing something here.

@joshua_thomas

3 жыл бұрын

@@captain_noodles Chia is an altcoin that uses unused storage space for mining

@bmhater1283

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshua_thomas Woah, basically mining crypto without a graphics card.

@untitled6391

3 жыл бұрын

@@bmhater1283 then what's doing the calculations?

Putting this in the loop with your CPU and GPU makes sense for only the cost of fittings, warms the drive under load and cools it under idle, main reason I water cooled my two Samsung 970 drives with cheapo bitspower blocks on my asus x570 prime pro was under low airflow conditions (external radiator for silence) the drive would heat soak into the mainboard when running backups and then the chipset fan would spin up and the VRM temps also went up, I also only have thermal pads on the DDR and controller sections of the drive but kept the Samsung thermal sticker.

Hey Linus I can only say one word to discribe your videos is that your my inspiration I did my first upgrade after watching how to upgrade components and now I want to know what software you use to monitor system proformance

Even though this doesn't make any sense it still gets a gold star for making more sense than yesterdays video

@InMyElement

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@piobu5357

3 жыл бұрын

Basically you don't need a water cooled SSD, cause in normal use you'll never put a load on it, that will make it thermal throttle. If you'll somehow manage to do it, by writing absurd amounts of data on it constantly, then your drive is going to die in days, anyway, so a $500 SSD is a waste of money, for that particular use scenario. The extra cooling simply won't help in any way, aside from making it run a bit faster through the days it has to live, that is. There's no harm in watercooling an SSD, but there's just no benefit, either - it's not like it'll boost higher, or allow better O/C. It will definitely run cooler, but realistically you'll never really need it to.

Linus you're a living meme yourself

@victorrobles353

3 жыл бұрын

not even flex tape can fix that 🙃

@0aleolijest678

3 жыл бұрын

Good one soldier.

@suntzu1409

3 жыл бұрын

@@victorrobles353 drop tape can fix that tho

@goriaakash

3 жыл бұрын

I was not ready for that burn, poop came out, thankfully i am on toilet.

Great video. I was curious about this.

This would actually really helpful if you had a whole team sharing a beefy computer and all using it at once, as Linus showed in that one 7 people use 1 pc video.

"Water is awesome, thank you water" Yer goddamn right.

I mean for aesthetic purposes it could give you more options in terms of custom looping. It’s probably more useful as just a looping add on than it is for cooling

@Gainn

3 жыл бұрын

Might be worse in a full loop with other components dumping heat into the water too..

@sxnthwave

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gainn I think the difference would be negligible. I’m honestly surprised Linus didn’t test for that though

basically, if you already have a custom water cooling setup chilling your CPU and GPU, then get this one too. it's just a little bit extra and but improves the ssd controller temperature which is surrounded by heated parts such as CPU, GPU, VRMs in a case. another comment said "no harm no foul" absolutely. on its own it sounded gimmicky but if you already have a loop then add this too, it will only improve the situation.

I'm pretty sure that an SSD with *that* kind of cooling (+ that kind of cooling itself, in general) is more something someone could need while running professional tasks; I'm still using an "old-style" classic SATA SSD (SanDisk SSD Plus 480GB) as my main drive and it works just amazing. It's blazingly fast for everything i do; (Ok, running Linux so the OS isn't *that* heavy, but was already fast with Windows 10 before, too ;) )

1:00 It's incredible how much a beard and longer hair can change your appearance. I forgot this is how Linus used to look like

would've liked to see a test of this vs. sabrent's ssd air cooler with heatpipes

Linus I always like how you shift from one point to another. Like a child with super high energy.

@DoNotEatPoo

2 жыл бұрын

Totally reminds me of Rickety Cricket - cocaine energy levels!

Thanks for yet another entertaining video! Now that everyone is talking about how hot pcie.5.0 ssd gets maybe Corsair was just a little ahead of its time? I think there will be more water cooling kits for ssd pcie 5.0 to avoid all the minimal fans that now come on them. If you have to choose between a small SSD fan or put it in your water loop, the choice will not be difficult if the price does not become ridiculously high.

Next: Water cooled cooling system (water cooled fans, water cooled radiators)

@Reverend_Salem

3 жыл бұрын

you wouldn't need water cooled fans, you could use the water as a working fluid to spin the fans, you would need a beefier pump and compleatly custom fans, but even with a watercooled fan you would need custom fans.

@hawkanonymous2610

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, I hopped they would do that for the all room.water cooling setup they build yeara ago so gung cannout build up in the pcs.

@dousha99

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I have some news for you... they are real. There are fans that have water loops in them. By adding cold water to them they would act as air conditioners. Radiators work by running hot water inside them. Not exactly water "cooled" but you get the idea.

@8draco8

3 жыл бұрын

So water cooled PC inside of a fish tank full of mineral oil. I think Luke should do it, that would be blast from the past

Linus: "Water is awsome, thank you water." Water: "You're Welcome."

@lopikosmusic9354

3 жыл бұрын

Smooth brain

Just wanna say, ifixit has changed my life at work. The mini driver set is SO NICE

Thanks for the intro being dark. You've saved a lot of eyeballs today

"Only the next fifteen minutes can tell us the answer." Fool! By the end of that statement there's only 13 minutes and 32 seconds remaining!

@daveisme9227

3 жыл бұрын

The 1.5 minutes of silence contributes to the answer, aha!

@Nevir202

3 жыл бұрын

FOOL! Don't you know you must spend a minute and a half after the end of the video scrolling comments to obtain the true answer?

1:21 Linus is just proving once in a while that he's also a dad

10:18 "still got" sounds exactly like Sonic taking a breath of air from a bubble.

@DeanCutsforth

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, listen to that shit. It’s fucking exactly like that.

I want the water cooled chair this summer i really really needed it

I would really like to see a video where they let the endurance test run the full four days and see if the drive dies or what happens after it exceeds the write limit

In a big FEM simulation with many dumps of RAM it could be useful: 10 years ago I was using four dedicated raid 0 disks.

I know it's a bit long after the video was posted, but I bought a couple 30mm PWM fan cooled SSD Heatsinks for 2x Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSDs (1TB and 2TB) -- with no heatsink they were at ~70-80 peak, with a passive heatsink the one below the GPU was at ~70 and the one behind it was at ~76. My system uses an AIO CPU cooler, but they're apparently known to run hot even in fully air cooled builds. Now, the 1TB behind the backplate caps around 60 and the 2TB in front of the GPU fans caps around 50. The 2TB is set to 50% fan speed (around 5000 RPM) and the 1TB is set to 75% (around 6500.) Actually a really big improvement for a dangerously high temperature lol, highly recommended if you have an SSD throttling itself all the time like I did. Worth mentioning, I also have an Intel branded SSD that maintained around 45 under the GPU with no heatsink, and is around 35 with a low profile passive one.

I have the ifixit kit, has never let me down, love it!

SSD: "Hey Linus! I'm here for the stress test." Linus: "So....you have chosen.... _death_ "

this ssd has more ram than my first pc. How far weve come xd

@Tsaukpaetra

3 жыл бұрын

Most CPUs have more level 1 cache on the die than my first PC had RAM...

@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: a dual-socket EPYC system with 3D stacked cache will have 1.5GB of L3 Cache. And 4TB of DRAM, which is more data than my two SSD's combined.

@noobiii

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart that moment when 2 epyc cpus have more l3 cache than my first laptop

@karoliskesminas8247

3 жыл бұрын

@Raziel rest in peace.

@innocentbystander3317

3 жыл бұрын

My first computer was a bio-neural mess, but my second computer had a cassette storage device.

6:35 nice shout out to our awesome water!

Now i want to see this with that prototype device they showcased with 8tb drives😊

Water cooling a SSD is cool, but... How about a water-cooled keyboard?

@beaudavis3808

3 жыл бұрын

Do we need to watercooled everything?

@WirableCrown1

3 жыл бұрын

@@beaudavis3808 yes, underwater gaming

@jirosaves_theworld

3 жыл бұрын

do water cooled human please

@harbl99

3 жыл бұрын

@@jirosaves_theworld What do you think sweating is?

@scourageliquidater1590

3 жыл бұрын

And a watercooled mouse and chair you would never be sweaty again while gaming.

LTT in 2040: today we’re showing off asus’s new 240mm AIO for your ssd

Is the read/write life expectancy for a SSD an actual lifespan estimate or is it a guarantee for data retention? I know for a lot of memory datasheets for example, they'll list the expected read/writes that they'll guarantee data integrity for. The chip can often go for a lot longer than that, but there's not guarantee it's going to retain or read back the correct data. Is this something similar?

I am about to make my loop soon I wish I knew about this before I got the regular MP 600

There was already nvme waterblock available to buy online from like Barrowch

I would like to see how it perform if it's part of the whole water loop where some other components could actually reach high temps and heat the SSD.

@SterlingRobertson

3 жыл бұрын

I have a water cooled system where two 3070's also run through two 980 pro 2tb nvme drives and through two 360mm rads. The drives we're 86c before and now are 42c after cooling them under load. I enjoyed building the entire thing to be honest. It's a fun project for me. The card mine ETH and ssds farmed chia plots at first.

@Sandriell

3 жыл бұрын

Water cooling doesn't really work that way. This is why loop order does not matter for thermal reasons.

@SterlingRobertson

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sandriell you not answering the correct question. We know the order of flow doesn't matter but type and amount of hot items vs rads sure does.

I’m adding ‘you’re about as useful as an SSD watercooler’ to my list of computer disses

I once had an Msi Board for my fx8350 which had its Northbridge at around 90 degrees while booting so i watercooled it the block I used (Anfitec German Locals ) had like 3-4 fines milled with a 2 mm Bit but well it got me covered