Hi all - as some viewers are pointing out, it's a mistake to describe a 133 dB to 96 dB reduction as 15%. It's much more than that, as decibels are a logarithmic unit. Sorry for letting that error slip in and any confusion (note that 96dB is still incredibly loud).

@qadarinimo258

4 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about the international space station and the Mir space station

@ChrisPrefect

4 жыл бұрын

17db reduction is almost 8 times less noise! So a reduction of about 85%.

@CrazyHorse151

4 жыл бұрын

Well it reduced the noise level by 15%. The whole reason we use dB is to use perceptually linear scales. (EDIT: sound pressure level in dB is not perceptually linear. Sone is. F*ed that up) What you wanted to express is that the -perceived- noise level was reduced by 15% and that is in fact the case. Converting to linear levels, we get a far greater reduction but who cares when we don't perceive the difference as such?

@Henchman1977

4 жыл бұрын

I was just going to point that out.....

@sukhoifan

4 жыл бұрын

*113dB, not 133 while i am being nitpicky once again. :P Still wish you had that awesome Energia-Buran thumbnail picture in high res. :( (asked you a while back about it on twitter, but largest available one was still quite small)

This seems like a technology that should be revisited.

@Rogerv1032

3 жыл бұрын

That’s true. But when governments and such are stable.

@gompye1834

3 жыл бұрын

Totally. If this was developed in the 1960s then think about how better it could be today

@Spinattitude

3 жыл бұрын

It will soon be superceded by electric drones.

@gompye1834

3 жыл бұрын

@@Spinattitude what kinds of drones

@TobiasHinz1992

3 жыл бұрын

Would be perfect for military use

Why does the British government need to destroy all useful engineering documents of cancelled projects damnit!

@ijpg-fd7qn

4 жыл бұрын

That's the one part I really don't get. There wouldn't be any hassle in just releasing the docs to the public, and they could have even sold them to some other company in the US or something but they decided to just toss them?

@konokakono

4 жыл бұрын

More likely somebody have hidden agenda

@62peppe62

4 жыл бұрын

More or less the same story of the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow fighter jet.

@SlavicUnionGaming

4 жыл бұрын

Random Roughneck Russias eastern sides could use this, Runways are not so common there

@danielrodriguez248

4 жыл бұрын

The US also

I remember, when I was a boy, the sound of the Rotodyne. There was nothing like it. When you saw it flying over you felt like you were seeing the future. And perhaps it could have been, but it was too much ahead of its time.

@saravanakumar-tw6yr

3 жыл бұрын

Skkwkskskskwkwks yyou suck

@oadka

3 жыл бұрын

Man you're a lucky person

@PinoyPickUps

2 жыл бұрын

How old are you?

@jonathanhill4892

2 жыл бұрын

@@PinoyPickUps Being born in 1954, I am quite old enough to remember the late 50s and early 60s. Beyond that, don't be impertinent:)

@PinoyPickUps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanhill4892 Ow I see, thank you for sharing that. Im just happy to know that even at your age there are people that are still active in the KZread community. I hope when I'll get old, I will still be sharp just like you.

It almost physically hurts to see this beautiful thing to to waste. Couldn't they just resurrect the project and use today's advancements and technologies to fix the 60 year old issues?

@Coillcara

2 жыл бұрын

No. In general, old technologies need to be re-engineered. I would imagine the safety standards would be different, as well as manufacturing methods. Analogy: you want to make an arrow, and have the best stone age arrow as an example; since you have no skill in cleaving obsidian, your stone arrow head will never be as good, but you can make a better steel head and make it faster with the available tools.

@patrickmiano7901

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coillcara Agreed, but the basic design is still viable and the concept is a good 👍 one. This would be a valuable aircraft for short flights. Your analogy with arrows is a good one, because the improvements and changes needed were not insurmountable.

@Garlan4

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coillcara as much as i apreciate the look of the original machine, the point of the argument is to look back to this "concept" and translate it on modern design. Today we have new materials and solution to make this idea to work. Of course it will not have the same form. But the concept is still interesting

@Ryvaken

2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind, this thing was being compared against helicopters, not fixed wing aircraft. There's no reason to suppose this design would be relevant. And I'm looking at a machine with too many conspicuous points of failure to go trusting it with human lives.

@voidofspaceandtime4684

2 жыл бұрын

@@Coillcara How much different do you think the design would be, really? It's semantics to get into an argument about the incredible specificities between manufacturing of the 60s and today. Most of the groundwork is still the same.

"...and it all went to s$%t" That took me completely off guard.

@mojo5093

4 жыл бұрын

lmao, yeah that was classic :D

@JozMkII

4 жыл бұрын

Seemed really out of place; He could have said ‘it went down the toilet’ to keep it PG-rated, without the need to hastily censor a word that we’re all going to recognize anyway.

@maniacram

4 жыл бұрын

JozMk. II ok boomer

@livingcorpse5664

4 жыл бұрын

@Prometheus I disagree. I think adults today are rude and kids are polite. Oh wait you meant swearing. Eh, it's whatever.

@textech4056

4 жыл бұрын

I love it when someone tells it like it is...or was..:)

It should be illegal to destroy research. Maybe shoehorn it into protections on financial records?

@owls6514

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@antdx316

4 жыл бұрын

People have destroyed 3D development because they make no money off ads when people feel disoriented and focus on the 3D more than the ads that make them money.

@ericvalverderosado2046

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Engineers can get what they need from them and make something better!

@karlosbricks2413

4 жыл бұрын

Fear of this rather useful technology falling into Soviet hands, I'd imagine it could make a good troop transport/lander if further developed (where noise no longer matters). So destroying something may be shortsighted given the work and lack of any ROI you'll get, given the risk of the reds though, they must have just thought this way was better.

@PongoXBongo

4 жыл бұрын

@@karlosbricks2413/videos Destroy prototypes and manufacturing tooling sure, but keep the paperwork and data squirreled away somewhere safe.

TIP JETS? That is insane technology!

@Aileee

3 жыл бұрын

E

@itsmaxiiii1605

3 жыл бұрын

But won’t be it to be too heavy for it and disturbing the lifting force?

@a.vanwijk2268

2 жыл бұрын

No, it's not. In the 1950's the Nederlandse Helikopter Industrie built a small helicopter that way. Not sure if if there's footage on YT, but has an entry in Wikipedia

@jackywhite880

2 жыл бұрын

Assuming a system that works, tip thrusters are an excellent way to power helicopter rotors. There's no torque. Thats why the Rotodyne didn't need a tail rotor. The tiny Fairey Ultralight helicopter used a tip jet system back in the 50s. Its abandonment, once again, had more to do with politics than engineering.

@starwarsfan_1206

2 жыл бұрын

This joke?

I genuinely hate how this aircraft didn't succeed, it should really be reconsidered.

@user-yt4mm4db3b

5 ай бұрын

Я думаю, могу спроектировать лучше, если будет спрос.

@Rocker-1234

3 ай бұрын

and moreso, i hate how it almost got a chance of succeeding, hell IT HAD ORDERS unlike alot of these. they just got colossally shafted by a government that only wanted more of the same boring crap and mergers that likely sore ceos telling the teams to kiss actual inovation goodbye

@80HDpilled

3 ай бұрын

I feel like this would be the perfect model for flying cars as it removes the need for a runway

I've never even heard of the Rotodyne. Man I love this channel.

@synergymike5070

4 жыл бұрын

me 2

@spencerhardy8667

4 жыл бұрын

It's tragic that generations have been denied Airfix.

@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because the rododyne never existed.

@holthogan5562

4 жыл бұрын

@@Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm That probably contributed to me not knowing of it.

@Jaxxal.

4 жыл бұрын

Holt Hogan that’s because it’s the Rotodyne not the rododyne

5:08 Gotta love the test pilot gear back in the day: Suit and hat.

@bigstupidgrin

4 жыл бұрын

And probably a pre-flight drink or two

@troyt6532

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget about the spinning blades 2 ft from his head

@truthseeker8483

4 жыл бұрын

When men were men...not hair bun wearing pansies

@didierthesuperstar

4 жыл бұрын

What's even better is that that is Igor Sikorsky (if I'm not mistaken), the inventor of this specific helicopter and one of the most influential American pioneers of the technology The man invented it, learned how to pilot it, and tested it himself All the while wearing a suit and a fedora on every occasion What an absolute baller

@nqh4393

4 жыл бұрын

A real gentleman.

I sometimes wonder how big of a role does "Corporate Sabotage" play in the failures of these amazing technologies. For example, a technology like this would've significantly hurt the "Airport Taxi" industry.

@Thomk121

2 жыл бұрын

There are to many examples of sabotaged technologies to count. The man who invented the diesel engine was murdered and all his designs are "missing". He had designs for all kinds of new engines that ran on different fuels. Big oil didnt like this. Also Nikola teslas research and designs were all stolen after his death. The list goes on and on. Windows and google are constantly buying up patents and small startups to either use or shelf so there is no competition.

@Bumphuk

2 жыл бұрын

For more information on corporate sabotage and the British government try looking up Dr Beeching and his plans to "streamline" the British railway network whilst being actively employed by a massive asphalt company that wanted the government to shift towards road transport.

@ray.shoesmith

2 жыл бұрын

It's not that far fetched tbh. Tullamarine Airport (Melbourne International) in Melbourne Australia still doesn't have a rail link from the airport to the city centre. The reason? Taxi cab lobbying.

@Steve-GM0HUU

Жыл бұрын

Not just taxis perhaps. Can't see airports supporting the idea of all their short and medium haul flights being handed over to mini inner city airports. All those passengers they would loose that are no longer paying for taxis, carparks or buying over priced food, drink and all the other tat they sell in airports to a captive audience? The financial stakeholders of airports don't care if if people spend hours travelling to airports by car, train or bus with all the additional pollution/congestion that goes with it. Not only that, from an air traffic control perspective, the creation of multiple new airports and the added complexity it would bring to airspace management is something that would take a lot to sort out and probably drive up operating costs.

@NeighborSenpai

Жыл бұрын

@@ray.shoesmith same with Las Vegas airport, the idea was to make the Monorail go to the airport but taxi companies lobbied hard and the Monorail stops randomly a few blocks from the airport serving no one in that area

This NEEDS to make a comeback

@vihaanajaya3041

3 жыл бұрын

but autogyro is that loser

@FlyLeah

2 жыл бұрын

@@vihaanajaya3041 how so? Would do for a helicopter to be more efficient, faster and safer

@vihaanajaya3041

2 жыл бұрын

​@@FlyLeahauto gyros work by pushing arotor in front that spins to make lift. and helicopters use extra thrust to go foward that is less efficient than aurogyros​

@inigobantok1579

2 жыл бұрын

It has its called the v 22 osprey

@dirckthedork-knight1201

2 жыл бұрын

@@inigobantok1579 The Osprey has nothing in common with the Rotodyne

6:54 Small correction - since sound is on a logarithmic scale, the reduction in noise wasn't by 15%, *but rather by 86%*

@MagicznaPanda

4 жыл бұрын

​@DT Undercover The loudness of a helicopter is about 85.5dB from 600 feet away - so if the rotodyne was to be no louder than a helicopter, it'd have to reduce its noise by 96% from the original (or 70% from the already revised version).

@MagicznaPanda

4 жыл бұрын

@DT UndercoverYeah, something like 99.7%

@Friend_of_the_One-Eyed_Ladies

4 жыл бұрын

@@MagicznaPanda SPL (sound pressure level; typically measured in dB) decreases with distance, like any other wave. Specifying a dB level without specifying the distance from the source is meaningless. Usually when they say "90 dB", they mean "90 dB @ 1 meter". Your 85.5 dB @ 600 ft would be hella loud @ 1 m.

@numalesoybea1348

4 жыл бұрын

How did you get the 86% exactly? It should be more like 98%

@CherrySmith

3 жыл бұрын

even though the sound intensity has reduced by 86%, we’ll still perceive the loudness as 15% less

Me: you returned? Even after all this time? Mustard: of course, child. I never left. Me: *sheds a tear*

@buscentral900

4 жыл бұрын

Aka. "I'm glad you're back"

@mro9466

4 жыл бұрын

Accurate description of my feelings

@lukewood9210

4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@BillKermanKSP

4 жыл бұрын

he really never was gone, seems like the videos just get uploaded in a 2 month interval now

@rjmj7725

4 жыл бұрын

@@buscentral900 nice to meet u bic'ts !! 😁😀😂

When I was a kid, I put together a plastic model kit of a Fairey Rotodyne, with a detailed interior including seats, passengers, even luggage racks. I really thought it was the wave of the future. Technologically, it could have been, given a sufficient commitment.

@matthew9677

2 жыл бұрын

If you still have it save that thing in a strong case. We got to save what little is left!

@billy4072

Жыл бұрын

See Greg's Model s. Channel he makes the kit 🥰

I feel like this concept should be revisited to replace medical helicopters. You could deliver patients faster while burning less fuel. A lot of development has gone into miniature, quiet and efficient jet engines that could go on the blades. The larger cab size could also allow for more than one patient to travel at a time with ambulance like medical equipment and staff there for them.

@monhi64

Жыл бұрын

Medical helicopters are a whole nother shitshow. Back when they deregulated air travel, it was generally good for the public but it left a loophole where air ambulances can charge whatever they choose. The companies behind the air ambulances realized no one really has a choice to take one or not, that’s usually up to a doctor and the patient might be unconscious so they started charging 5-10 times more than they needed too. And especially since doctors like the err on the side of caution with lives a lot of rides are both unnecessary and hyper expensive. So just to be clear the medical helicopters are not the expensive by any necessity, just price gouging lol

@procatprocat9647

Жыл бұрын

@@monhi64 which country do you live in?

@somethingmoredecent

Жыл бұрын

@@procatprocat9647 America

@procatprocat9647

Жыл бұрын

@@somethingmoredecent unlucky

@somethingmoredecent

Жыл бұрын

@@procatprocat9647 Depends

I feel like out of all the failed projects this one is the only one im like damn thatd be cool as hell and i genuinly think it would work

@FlyLeah

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Ekranoplans. Utilizing ground effect is far more efficient than any airplane. Best part is that it gets even more efficient and reliable the bigger the craft gets

@toinfinityandbeyond2082

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlyLeah as someone who currently works as an aircraft mechanic, the maintenance with that many engines and salt water that close to the ground makes those things a tactical nightmare, not only that but like the video says, controlling the ground effect makes them super difficult, maybe on a smaller scale they might work but as large military purposes I don't think it's feasible

@Mittens0407

2 жыл бұрын

@@toinfinityandbeyond2082 About the stability issues I've heard its the opposite. Supposedly, the larger the Ekranoplan is the higher and more stable it flew.

@NormAppleton

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is the trans sonic barrier at the tips of all rotary wing aircraft. There is no way around it. This is why the only non jet powered high speed VTOL aircraft are things like the Osprey.

@salvagemonster3612

2 жыл бұрын

And that is what we need more Gen Z’ers giving us their opinion

Last time I was this early, the dassalt mecure was selling well

@Alvaricokemaureira

4 жыл бұрын

jajajajajajajaja good one

@ianr

4 жыл бұрын

LOL Great comment Cedric! 😂

@Yautah

4 жыл бұрын

It was just a Mirage.

@toasterbathboi6298

4 жыл бұрын

Cedric Ye so, you were never early then?

@timothydaly2152

4 жыл бұрын

Intellectuals will get this👍

Missed a perfect opportunity to title it “Why the VTOL Airliner never Took Off”

@panthergaming732

3 жыл бұрын

Oof

@patrickmiano7901

3 жыл бұрын

Boo! Ewwgh! Bad!

@patrickmiano7901

3 жыл бұрын

Noise concerns? In American 🇺🇸 cities? Oh, come now.

@revolver265

3 жыл бұрын

"but it did!" - someone that missed the memo

@animationspace8550

2 жыл бұрын

But it did

Someone needs to bring this back in today's technologies this should fit in just fine, including fixing the tip jet problem

@Vladdy89

2 жыл бұрын

Why? There are lots of airfields now in the World. Absolutely useless and inefficient thing.

@shenlun

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vladdy89 I thought the idea of using less fuel was a good idea

@Vladdy89

2 жыл бұрын

@@shenlun It's still gonna be inefficient. And extremely loud.

@dolphindaily5271

2 жыл бұрын

@@shenlun modern planes Are still better

@Lildizzle420

2 жыл бұрын

look up lillium jet test flight

I remember the Rotodyne flying over our house! The Rotodyne was based at a small airfield called White Waltham just outside Maidenhead and as a child we lived on the direct line between White Waltham and Farnborough which was the base of the British Aircraft Establishment. On several occasions we heard the distinct sound of the Rotodyne flying over and dashed outside to watch it go over. Yes, it was noisy, but so were most aircraft at that time, especially the big jets like the Boeing 707. The difference was the big jets landed at airports outside the city centres so did not fly low over the houses, except of course the ones on the flight path into the airports. People these days forget how noisy those old aircraft were! A few years ago I heard a racket and went outside to see what it was and was treated to the sight of a Dreamliner on its way to the Farnborough Airshow escorted by a Spitfire and a Hurricane. I could barely hear the Dreamliner - the racket was all being made by the Merlins. A beautiful racket though!

@kbryce14

4 жыл бұрын

edward Handley That’s a lot to read..

@Coreylahey1000

4 жыл бұрын

Thats an amazing read. Thanks!

@nancygreene5838

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, interesting! Thanks for sharing.

@Yawyna124

4 жыл бұрын

@@kbryce14 Wha-- no that's not. It's two short paragraphs that are neatly and pleasantly structured.

@larushka1

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Me too. Just posted. This is awesome.

The models are so clean like this is even better than a model aircraft.

@lfox02

4 жыл бұрын

@@cap5856 It is. He makes all these 3D models and animations himself.

@DrWhom

4 жыл бұрын

@@lfox02 Having them sit on a (cgi) tabletop is a stroke of genius. The models read as fantastic scale models, rather than attempts to render a real-life aircraft. It falls short of the latter, which is not a criticism as big movies have dozens of people working on these things and it still often goes wrong.

For places like small islands or isolated cities (like those Spanish cities on the Morroccan coast that actually still have helicopter airlines), this sort of thing could be a really amazing addition to their transportation sector.

@barrylenihan8032

6 ай бұрын

I'm not so sure that Spain operates helicopter services between it's North African enclaves and the mainland. Most of these connections are provided by sea ferry services and air services using efficient turboprop aircraft such as the ATR 72.

@davidwill5347

5 ай бұрын

@@barrylenihan8032 There is a helicopter service to Ceuta from Algeciras on Mainland Spain with Helity using AW139s, priced very competitively with the ferry. You're right the ATR is used on rotations to Melilla from Madrid, Malaga, Granada and Almeria as the distances are much further.

6:05 I didn't expect that at all 😂😂😂

This is so great to see. I’m the grand son of Geoffrey Hall who was chairman of Fairey. I never met him but to see the work he and the team of engineers in the company was trying to create is so humbling. One point that was not mentioned was that the British government had also compulsory purchased Fairey airfields which just so happened to be Heathrow, so a vertical take off aircraft didn’t suit the governments new airfields strategy? If anyone know more about this I would love to know. Charlie.

@briangarrett-glaser438

4 жыл бұрын

Are you familiar with Jaunt Air Mobility and Skyworks? They’re two companies working very seriously on technology that’s partially descendant from the Rotodyne, if i understand it correctly. The goal is to develop vehicles for urban air mobility, very much like the rotodyne concept. Really cool stuff.

@bsadewitz

4 жыл бұрын

I relish reading comments such as yours. In less than 24 hours, a blood relative of the man happened to watch this particular video and left a comment. What sort of peculiar alignment of interest and circumstance brings that about? The answer, of course, is at once obvious and yet unfathomable. I did not know this craft existed until now. I hadn't even thought of autogyros for years, and am fascinated by this. Too bad you don't have one in the family to go see. ;-)

@bsadewitz

4 жыл бұрын

@@briangarrett-glaser438 www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/analysis-skyworks-gyrocopter-returns-from-the-brink-459680/ Wow, so it is ... I had no idea.

@VCYT

4 жыл бұрын

A friend of mine worked for Fairey Hydrualics.

@chris-hayes

4 жыл бұрын

@@bsadewitz very cool!

“It all went to sh*t” Mustard had finally snapped.

Seems like a good application for an electric prop engine. The main rotor could also be powered to eliminate the tip jets.

@batates74

2 жыл бұрын

@Drew Peacock probably, could be mounted on a clutch I guess

@BiohazardPL

2 жыл бұрын

@Drew Peacock main rotor of all helicopters function as an autogyro (to some degree) if power is lost.

@BlairdBlaird

2 жыл бұрын

@Drew Peacock Yes, though it's not trivial all single-engine helicopters must be capable of autorotation to be certified. The US Army has an award (the "broken wing") for successful autorotation under emergency conditions (usually engine failure).

@thatcarguydom266

2 жыл бұрын

@Drew Peacock you mean every helicopter ever?

@watintarnation9801

2 жыл бұрын

Well it still has to counter the torque when the main rotor is being spun, and that's why helicopters have tail rotors or counter-rotating second rotors. The tip jets avoid this problem because the tips themselves propel the rotor, and the gas that's shot out creates reactive force.

Innovative engineer: *Exists* Britain: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."

@Luminite-hx3zs

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stealthy_Sloth That's unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that.

@Parzival-sg2kl

4 жыл бұрын

This comment is underrated.

@TheCUTTERbyPHOENIX

4 жыл бұрын

take my upvote mate ! Also dead meme !

@RedXlV

4 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how the British government seemingly went out of their way to destroy their own aviation industry.

@raymonds7492

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stealthy_Sloth that is a really interesting tale. please continue.

So this was basically a massive gyrocopter? Not going to lie, that’s awesome

@parand8263

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan M. Yes, at cruise. But gyrocopters are not able to take off vertically. Imagine a gyrocopter in this size with a rotor that is not powered by something. Technically interesting but I don't think that it will make any sense. 🤔🙂

@VaughnDavisTV

4 жыл бұрын

No, the video is completely wrong about that. The rotor was powered but by very noisy rotor-tip jets.

@DoctorShocktor

4 жыл бұрын

Vaughn Davis Wrong. The video has it absolutely correct and it’s easy to read other sources as well. It’s described as a compound gyroplane, where the rotor is not powered during cruise, but the tip jets are run during hover and the transitions in and out of hover.

@DoctorShocktor

4 жыл бұрын

Parand ? Why imagine that? This isn’t a giant unpowered gyrocopter, it’s a compound gyrocopter.

@parand8263

4 жыл бұрын

DoctorShocktor Yes, i think you are right. Sorry! People who has no clue about what they talking about are always right. The new rule. But wait, I did not ask you. 🤔 Have a nic3 Day. 😁

The 50's innovation will never be rivaled. Hands down.

@meetmeinthegame403

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, like there was this massive push for innovation after the war. And rebuilding our economy, But I’m sure a generation like that will come along again

My grandfather was a part of the production of this aircraft, and despite it not being adopted, he always spoke fondly of it. It was clear he was proud of his and his teams work, as am I.

“Oh we aren’t going to be able to build this, let’s destroy millions in R&D instead of putting it in a shelf and trying it with new tech later down the line” WHY DO COMPANIES DO THIS!?!?!?!?

@ptonpc

4 жыл бұрын

The company would have been under instructions from the government most likely. The British Government especially had a habit of ordering prototypes and tooling destroyed.

@Admiral_Jezza

4 жыл бұрын

@@ptonpc But why though?

@betelgeuse7645

4 жыл бұрын

@@Admiral_Jezza Because they are fools.

@allanadam4553

4 жыл бұрын

Same in America, all tooling for the C-17 is gone, same for many of the fighters built in the 80’s and 90’s, deliver the last one and destroy all the tooling, you can’t even make spares to keep planes you still have flying. A-10 tooling is gone, Boeing is actually having to rebuild wings instead of building new and it costs way more.

@poodlescone9700

4 жыл бұрын

Government bureaucrats.

With today's technology, a quieter version can be made today.

@williamw2529

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. And one that's more aerodynamic, and faster, and lighter, and...

@imhorny169

4 жыл бұрын

No drones are superior.

@emancoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@imhorny169 drones are basically any remote controlled aircraft, this rotodyne can be one.

@jackthorton10

4 жыл бұрын

@@emancoy A remote controlled aircraft/helicopter, that sounds like it could work

@foxkinggaming3540

4 жыл бұрын

It would be made obsolete as soon it as it rolled of the assembly line

I've spent my whole life finding awesome ideas that were lost in the past I'm glad I found this channel I don't know where you dug up some of these great relics of the past but thank you they are very interesting.

This is one of the most heartbreaking and sad failed projects this channel has covered so far. A genuine bummer.

“It all went to shBLEEP” Me: surprised pikachu

@boywoofie

4 жыл бұрын

I actually made the face too when I heard it lol almost thought I misheard it. lmao

@j.mccreath5631

4 жыл бұрын

Ah a man of culture I see

@Zakalwe-01

4 жыл бұрын

I actually thought he was going to use the classic British engineering term ‘It’s all gone tits-up’. He didn’t, but ironically it had.

@JohnnyZenith

4 жыл бұрын

I thought that was hilarious.

@BleachJuice21

4 жыл бұрын

Same

It depresses me what happened to our aviation heritage 😭

@HungrysitesRu

4 жыл бұрын

You can buy an autogyro. It's this specific autogyro that failed, there are others for civil aviation.

@Alexandre-ul7oy

4 жыл бұрын

I know so much great plane that could have changed the world like Concorde; Rotordyne; Mercure; and flying wings

@VCYT

4 жыл бұрын

Blame Hitlers war - it drained much money from the UK gov.

@chris-hayes

4 жыл бұрын

@@Alexandre-ul7oy Black Arrow too

@mohammedsarker5756

4 жыл бұрын

Alexandre Moreau Concorde was a toy for the rich and terrible for the environment

A "flying machine" that would be more economical and faster, got canceled because of "lack of funding". 🤔 I'm pretty sure the oil industry had a lot to do with it as well.

@spaceout2520

2 жыл бұрын

And the United States military could in theory make the Rotodyne a thing again because who loves cheap and effective military vehicles more than the US

@truthinaction0000

2 жыл бұрын

@@spaceout2520 of it ain't national debt over budget or built exclusively by Lockheed legacy, Murica won't buy. If it ain't overpriced, the other countries will make fun, except Putinland, he's allycat scrappy cool on the cheap.

@Ryvaken

2 жыл бұрын

More economical and faster than a contemporary helicopter. That's not a high bar.

@daw162

2 жыл бұрын

more economical than what? It didn't get interest, so it didn't get funding. It has to beat an airliner, not a helicopter (which is generally only used for short trips by wealthy people). Airlines will do anything to save fuel, including spending stupid amounts on newer planes that use less fuel but take eons to pay back.

@KaiserStormTracking

2 жыл бұрын

@@spaceout2520 Russia?? They still use Cold war era bombers

Damn, all this effort to avoid a high speed railway

@heksogen4788

2 жыл бұрын

High speed passenger rail is more expensive.

@nicopavvi8494

2 жыл бұрын

In the 1960s USA?

@eMKeaL

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicopavvi8494 first bullet trains in Japan were operational in mid 60s. It is just US that fucked up this subject with decades of negligence.

An old coworker of mine worked on this project as a young man. He told me some of the technical issues. He liked to say that like Concorde it was ahead of the technology of the day. Even without the ear splitting noise he told me about thermal issues regarding the rotor blades and the complications of combustors in the rotor tips was just beyond what they could reliably build.

@matthew9677

2 жыл бұрын

That man must write everything he remembers. We must save the data that remains.

@monhi64

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s the issue with destroying all the research we don’t have any records of all the problems this plane had. It’s possible they destroyed it cuz they were worried it would made them look bad or something. Would be cool to come back see if it’s viable now

@colintuffs568

6 ай бұрын

My father worked on the Fairy rotodyne at Heaton Chapel in Stockport Cheshire. We a had photo of all the workers in front of the first plane . He worked on Hurricanes during the war and was scathing about spitfires . Damaged spits were scrap whereas hurricanes were repaired and generally flew again the next day . Any body remember Jindevics ? 😮

Mustard: Uploads new video Me: *Squeals of joy*

@filipgolonka3758

4 жыл бұрын

I can relate

@kolecava

4 жыл бұрын

The one I never miss, or tell myself... il watch it later 😎

@miroBGgsi

4 жыл бұрын

@@filipgolonka3758 Literally everyone who subscribes Mustard can relate.

Thank god this is story without huge crash tragedy But this piece of aviation is beautiful and so retrofituristic-ish, looks absolutely amazing

The DC-3 is a classic, one of the safest aircraft ever built, and should never have gone out of production. In the early 1950s when I was a small child my mother and I rode in one from Houston to New Orleans, and then we took a TWA Constellation from there to Tampa. Both of those airplanes were/are exceptionally beautiful.

"And it all went to S#$t." That was totally unexpected from this channel and got a big ole LOL from me. XD

The loss of this aircraft really feels like industrial sabotage.

@Rambo11307

4 жыл бұрын

Лэнгтон Матраверс. Hey now. More and more of us everyday are getting tired of the corruption.

@jasoncoburn445

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, it has the same air as The Tucker car story.

@alessandroarcuri209

4 жыл бұрын

More like government shortsightedness and total lack of vision.

@Rambo11307

4 жыл бұрын

Alessandro Arcuri But it would still outperform today. just like the airship is still the cheaper way to distribute mass freight.

@redbluesome2829

4 жыл бұрын

@Лэнгтон Матраверс. more like the pesky British aviation industry that couldn’t stay afloat without consolidation you dumb russkie.

His voice goes so well with the documentaries . I'm now interested in Aviation thanks to this informative channel 👍😀

I saw this for a couple of years at the Farnborough air show, my father used to get tickets when he worked on the Blue Steel so we went often. A wonderful idea, I see the American v22 doesn't work perfectly either.

One of the coolest aircraft that never went into service.

@sauropod5393

4 жыл бұрын

Canada in the late 1950s had the greatest plane that never was: the Avro Arrow with a top speed of 2,104 km/h which made it the fastest plane in the world and was scraped by Prime Minister Defeinbaker in 1959. Go figure why things are done.

@johnevans388

4 жыл бұрын

You never saw it fly. I saw it at Farnborough and it was deafeningly loud. There's no way it would have ever have operated commercially.

@crazycaucasian9342

4 жыл бұрын

​@@johnevans388 modern jet engines are 100-110 decibels, which are slightly louder than the rotodyne proposed production model (96 decibels). modern jet engines that just happen to be attached to commercial planes that commuters use every single day... :)

@DoctorShocktor

4 жыл бұрын

sauropod Freaking Arrow cult chimes in of course. Get over it already, shit happens.

@DoctorShocktor

4 жыл бұрын

Jay Jones Modern jet engines aren’t run at ear level in the middle of cities. The only reason for this to exist was to land in the middle of cities on rooftops. There’s a reason airports aren’t in the middle of office buildings.

Mustard: says the S word Everyone liked that.

@angelainejarrett1115

4 жыл бұрын

What's up with all the comments about mustard?

@darthsalmon3614

4 жыл бұрын

Angelaine Jarrett that's a joke right?

@angelainejarrett1115

4 жыл бұрын

@@darthsalmon3614 no. I just realized it's the name of the channel. Sorry I've been stuck in the house watching KZread videos for 2 weeks after an accident. I like I'm losing my mind.

@tobymassoom

4 жыл бұрын

@@angelainejarrett1115 you good?

@justicewarrior9187

4 жыл бұрын

What about CUM word??

How this machine was not grabbed by the military is beyond me......faster than a copter, larger and less complex than the OFSPREY, it was so versatile....

@ILovePancakes24

6 ай бұрын

The OFFSprey if it wasn't explicitly engineered to be a death trap.

@rustykilt

6 ай бұрын

Dont diasgree, but it has real issues.@@ILovePancakes24

By far one of my favourite vids by you

I just looked at this page today and thought ‘hmm they upload every two months, wonder when the next video is out’ and here I am

next video is gonna be: "the soviet rotodyne you didnt know about"

@s.sestric9929

4 жыл бұрын

The Aeroflot livery threw me off.

@chocomanger6873

4 жыл бұрын

They had probably had these in Ancient India. The west is so full of itself, thinking it has invented everything, and that history is only 2000 years old.

@pharaongaming8617

4 жыл бұрын

@@chocomanger6873 lol why you think so? first European country is over 8000 years old, Europe discovered metals and invented forging, West invented wine over 8000 years ago so how the heck it has 2000 year history can you explain?

@groovygambino4908

4 жыл бұрын

pharaon gaming the west invented wine over 8000 years? Do you have some information unknown to the world ? Please explain. Last I recall wine wasn't created by the west..

@groovygambino4908

4 жыл бұрын

i. rob what ?

"the rotor wasn't powered, but wait, actually it was"

@SuperUltimateLP

2 жыл бұрын

Only at takeoff and landing, yeah it's stretching it to say "unpowered" but for like 90% if the flight it is.

@andrewnorris5415

2 жыл бұрын

...like a conventional helicopter...

@jacobb17

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't. The blades are being pushed, but the rotor itself wasn't connected to an engine. It was only "powered" during takeoff and landing and its kind of a stretch to call being pushed the same as being powered.

@pauldavis5665

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobb17 It had jet engines attached to it for crying out loud. I would say that definitely counts as being connected to an engine, or more precisely multiple engines.

@jacobb17

2 жыл бұрын

@@pauldavis5665 Not engines, boosters. The rotor wasn't connected to an engine like a conventional helicopter. The rotor wasn't powered or connected to an engine, it had boosters on it that pushed it.

I'm willing to bet that the Rotodyne was too far ahead of it's time and probably no more noisier than any other Helicopter of it's day!

@jimtaylor294

8 ай бұрын

^ The irony there is that Farley was the test pilot of an infinitely louder aircraft, the Harrier 😂 . His conclusions on aircraft projects other than those he flew in [and I've read a few] are to be taken with a pinch of salt, as his actual in depth knowledge of them was limited. Case in point TSR-2. Farley's conclusion is not only incorrect from an aerodynamic perspective, but it also contradicts his former boss at Hawker Siddeley, Sir Sydney Camm. Given the respective qualifications of the two, I think Camm's verdict wins it by a mile.

Osprey: "Dang, my ancestors were a little funky back then."

@TheNpcNoob

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@wenaldy

4 жыл бұрын

Osprey is a tiltrotor not even close.

@TheNpcNoob

4 жыл бұрын

@@wenaldy pretty sure it was born outta this idea

@DoctorShocktor

4 жыл бұрын

wenaldy actually it’s quite similar but in a different way. The rotodyne uses a powered rotor to lift a shortwinged turboprop vertically, the Osprey does the same thing but by tilting its rotors. Cousins at least.

@DoctorShocktor

4 жыл бұрын

TRXP RFT Similar, but no, entirely different executions but based in similar goals and similar base aircraft.

*_Alternative Title_* : _Why The Vertical Takeoff Airliner Never Took off_

@orinpolansky386

4 жыл бұрын

It's not VTOL. It's just a big autogyro. It can do short takeoff and vertical landing. Autogyros had jumping takeoff systems when rotor was prespinned to 150% of its usual RPM then angle of rotorblades was changing to high angle and autogyro was making a jump. After jump was done main engine was turned on and craft started to do normal flight.

@yeg4k165

4 жыл бұрын

@@orinpolansky386 smart boi but this was a pun

@SeanMirrsen

4 жыл бұрын

@@orinpolansky386 This thing literally has jet engines on the tips of the rotor blades to spin up the rotor and vertically take off. It is not a simple autogyro.

@degraj418

4 жыл бұрын

@@yeg4k165 thank u

@degraj418

4 жыл бұрын

@@orinpolansky386 I mean the creator literally has Vertical takeoff in the title sooo

you deserve at least 10 times as much subs, great animations, and interesting stories.

I just wanna say: Thanks for putting your sponsors in the end that is very nice of you

Mustard: Most revolutionary helicopter... Rotodyne: Aight imma head out

@Alexandre-ul7oy

4 жыл бұрын

youre right it's more an autogire/plane

@ScienceAlliance

4 жыл бұрын

@@Alexandre-ul7oy *autogyro

@MinutemanOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

It's a gyrocopter

I love everything about your videos :) The amount of research done, the beautiful animations, the vintage footage and your narration! Thank you so much for all the effort you put into your videos!

I feel like the fundamental design of this aircraft is something an imaginative middle-schooler would come up with. A helicopter and an airplane at the same time, and rather than powered by a motor, the helicopter rotors are powered by jets on the tips? C'mon, that's classic middle-school cool. I love it.

That "all went to shit" caught me by surprise

Your 3D modelling is spectacular, having been watching for a while it's been great to see the improvement per video

KZread: New mustard video Me:I LOVE IT I think that a video about ford airplane would be cool

@crawdadlando4053

4 жыл бұрын

I dunno about that, gonna look it up now! Thanks.

@HirokaAkita

4 жыл бұрын

Ford Airplane??? ._. ????

@crawdadlando4053

4 жыл бұрын

@@HirokaAkita I just started a 40 minute documentary on it. Sure nuff.

@rbmk__1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@HirokaAkita ford tri-motor like on indiana jones

@crawdadlando4053

4 жыл бұрын

Ford patented brakes and tail wheels. As well as made the first concrete runway. It's fascinating stuff!

This thing looks like when you put bunch of random engines and fans on your car in Bad Piggies. Love it!

I remember the Rotodyne from my youth when it used to fly over my house on test flights from the airfield at White Waltham in Berkshire, where Fairey had a factory. The engine test bed was right next to the railway line that I used to travel on to school in Maidenhead and you could hear the noise of an engine test from inside the carriage! I still have an original Fairey Aviation publicity brochure about the Rotodyne and made at least two of the Airfix kits of it but sadly I no longer have them!

I wander how good one Rotodyne with modern technology would be when compared with current Helicopters...

@finnmurtons8727

4 жыл бұрын

See: OV22 Osprey

@Doppelfrog

4 жыл бұрын

@@finnmurtons8727 That's not really the same thing.

@ChaseBlackmoon

4 жыл бұрын

@Vitor Leão that is a good question, the Osprey is similar, but not the same beast as this thing.

@fulcrum2951

4 жыл бұрын

The v22 has two turboprop engines, similar to the rotordyne but it lacks one thing An unpowered rotor

@baginatora

4 жыл бұрын

Rotodyne is neither a plane, nor a helicopter. It's an autogyro- completely different type of aircraft.

This higher quality than most tv documentaries

Great video ❤ I love the concept

Makes you grateful that we have such differing visions of what might be possible. So much of what we see from home is often a very limited, confined vista.

To be honest, I would love to fly on that thing. It looked really interesting and actually futuristic.

@DsantosGE4PA

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe one with electric engines would solve the noise issue

@chris22capt

Ай бұрын

​@@DsantosGE4PA how would you power the tip jet with electric motor?

A friend who worked at Fairey back in the late 50's said that the prototype was deafeningly loud when the tip jets were used for take off and landing under load. The Napier gas turbines and propeller tips combined to make it almost impossible to tolerate!

Someone needs to develop a newer version of this machine. From what I saw of that peaceful glide to the ground, it looks pretty safe to fly in.

Thx for the video!

I literally went on Mustard earlier to check if you had any new videos. So glad your back!

Mustard: "But of course. . .It all went to $*** Me: NANI?!?

@abramo7700

4 жыл бұрын

oooooooooh! teacher he said a bad word!!

@daddybondrewd7271

4 жыл бұрын

no the teacher SAID the bad word

@6Six6Six6Bruh

4 жыл бұрын

Gingka Hagane timestamp

@cheeseislit1070

4 жыл бұрын

@@6Six6Six6Bruh 6:00

@machina_spirit

3 жыл бұрын

Thought you were just paraphrasing, so i was actually surprised when i got to that part of the video and he actually said that! 😂

I like how the cgi of the models on the desk do actually look like plastic models and not jusy scaled down of the full scal ones. The table looks awesome. Like the desk of an executive

TIP JETS? That is insane technology!. I've never even heard of the Rotodyne. Man I love this channel..

6:51 Going from 113 dB to 96 dB is not a 15% decrease in 'noise', but much more than that. Every 3 dB is roughly a 100% difference in sound energy and 23% difference in loudness. So the decrease of 17 dB was a reduction of loudness by around 130%.

@antoniolastname419

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure your math makes sense there. Wouldn’t reducing noise by 130% be physically impossible? If you go from 113dB to 0 that’s by definition a 100% reduction.

There's no reason the US military shouldn't have picked this up, as it seems vastly superior and safer to the V-22 Osprey, and the military doesn't care so much about noise.

@namesurname624

2 жыл бұрын

If they didn't then it wasnt

@shadfletcher6815

2 жыл бұрын

@@namesurname624 maybe your not aware of how many people have died in the osprey,so dont be so sure about the militaries decision making

@gearandalthefirst7027

2 жыл бұрын

@@namesurname624 I don't think you understand how the US military works lol. The whole thing only exists to make money for contractors and to scare people into submission, safety is a tertiary concern

@harbl99

2 жыл бұрын

NIH syndrome.

@richardpark3054

2 жыл бұрын

I've only seen a V-22 in flight about a dozen times, and my initial reaction has always been "A flying Osprey! Run! Take cover!"

This still has a lot of potential in the future especially if the trend of cities is building taller and taller structures. We are no where near hover technology so this might have to do for the next century. If theres a way to circumvent the rocket tips to a electric motor with better battery cap, it could be extremely quiet. The rotor is really only needed for lift off and possible landing do the electric motor wouldn't have to be so massive.

... I feel confounded I'd never even heard of this project before. I'm even *more* confounded to find out how promising an idea it was before it just sorta... fizzled for reasons that seem at least partially beyond anyone's control. It'd be neat to see someone try to revive the basic concept today. I think with modern technology and some fiddling around you might just have something viable on your hands. I'm not an engineer of course, I could be totally wrong. But it seems like a cool idea with potential even today.

Mustard: planes Wendover: it's treason then

There was a small sales model of this aircraft on my dad's desk when I was a kid.

@svennoren9047

4 жыл бұрын

I had the Airfix plastic model of it! Sadly I could never learn to use glue in moderation...

@sharonbraselton4302

2 жыл бұрын

good for yiu

If my memory serves me right I first found this channel through this video specifically about 2 to 3 years ago, I think it was one of the best things I did that year.

I had a kind of "Boys Book of Aircraft" when I was a kid. The Rotordyne was in it. With much hype as the newest and best thing around. It was going to revolutionise short haul travel. City centre to city centre.

Would love to see this with today's tech.

@fekete2730

4 жыл бұрын

People would probably not try to re-invent this, stuff like civilian ospreys will probably exist, it would be cool seeing this aircraft come back though.

@voidofspaceandtime4684

4 жыл бұрын

@@fekete2730 civlian ospreys would not be as efficient. The rotodyne is just a better design.

@mr.normalguy69

4 жыл бұрын

@@voidofspaceandtime4684 Plus if one or both engines of rotodyne malfunction, it can slowly glide to a safe landing, if the same happens to osprey then its lights out.

@jestertester69gaming54

4 жыл бұрын

@@mr.normalguy69 The Osprey may land like an fixed wing aircraft but may damage the propellers

@DAN007thefoxx1

4 жыл бұрын

@@jestertester69gaming54 Ok what if instead of huge rotors we used a series of small fans that can be tilted to either provide forward or downward thrust so you can land horizontally without damaging them?

Airlines or businesses should invest in these again. They're still a great idea and new technology could make them even better.

As electric aircrafts are slowly being introduced into the market, I see potential for something like this to be revisited. You could have 2 "turbo prop" electric engines and then run a charging system in the base of the rotor, so while it spins it can charge the batteries and help conserve batteries.

What a fascinating concept!

6:00 didn't expect that in a mustard video 😂😂

Someone needs to revive this. It seems like a great idea. Even if there aren't any existing blueprints or prototypes, it can't be that hard to try and piece it together while updating as necessary.

this is actually one of the first (or the first) video(s) i saw in your channel.

5:07 I like how he does the helicopter test flight wearing a suit and a top hat! 👍😁

If the rotodyne had not been British, then they might still be around today

@sandakureva

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this seems like it was more a problem of mismanagement on the part of the British government than it being a bad idea.

@bernardhaworth112

3 жыл бұрын

The reason for its failure ( as with the Concorde much later) was simply that it was NOT American. The USA determined that American designed and produced only should be around so the Rotodyne had to be 'destroyed' , as I say same with Concorde. Had both craft been American the US they would have made sure they succeeded .

@fandangobrandango7864

3 жыл бұрын

The WWW is British and is obviously still around today. You're welcome

@SAHBfan

3 жыл бұрын

@@bernardhaworth112 - never underestimate the amazing ability of successive British government to **** things up, though....

@disasterincarnate

2 жыл бұрын

@@SAHBfan or sell their stuff to the americans at the detriment of themselves.

This should be revived as many want to avoid traffic.

@absalomdraconis

4 жыл бұрын

That's more of a flying car thing, and _that_ is waiting on the FAA to finish their next-generation air traffic control system so that autopilots can hook into it.

@Nevir202

4 жыл бұрын

Seems like it would be excellent for regional commutes, going the “last mile” from hub airports to the regional one you want, etc.

@notsosilentmajority1

4 жыл бұрын

Then there would be traffic just trying to get to the takeoff location in Manhattan and every other major city. Nowadays it's probably quicker to get to one of the NY airports than it would to get to the rooftop of a midtown Manhattan building. Trust me on this.

@davidsheriff8989

4 жыл бұрын

yes, like all revolutionary techno, they get squashed

@bullterriermolly5874

4 жыл бұрын

They are check into personal drones there being pushed for the same reasons.

That's an interesting concept. Maybe we could see it live again some day.

I’m surprised they didn’t ditch the tip jets and add a smaller engine they could shut down after takeoff, similar to an APU used on jumbo jets