$46k for either of them is insane.

@SJT.IN.KC85

2 ай бұрын

In my head I still think these trucks are still low $30s the way they sit

@hitempguy

2 ай бұрын

Paid $40k cdn for a new 2020 f150 supercab xlt sport These being $46k usd is insane

@jfruser

2 ай бұрын

Niether Ford nor Nissan has to worry about my business. I bought a new base model 2013 Nissan in 2014 and 250,000 miles later I still like it and have no plans to replace it.

@dbarton8651

2 ай бұрын

@jfruser I agree 100%. I have no interest in buying any of these massively overnflated products.

@kevin5145

2 ай бұрын

Thats why I'm seeing a lot of Mavericks on the road.

I will always choose a naturally aspirated V6 over a turbo 4

@Dusdaddy

2 ай бұрын

Probably not for long....lol

@haroldbeauchamp3770

2 ай бұрын

@@Dusdaddyconsidering Nissan’s VQ V6 engines are one of the most reliable and respected V6 engines in the world, it’d be my choice too.

@Dusdaddy

2 ай бұрын

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Yep, and that's what I mean. Just about the time automakers work out all the bugs and get a good reliable drivetrain, they change it. Then start all over again.

@BillinSD

2 ай бұрын

2.7l Ecoboost uses a wet belt for oil pump, no thanks

@ruffriding2k2

Ай бұрын

Specially if you live closer to sea level NA V6 will do better

Love my 2022 SV Frontier (fully loaded). The original owner bought it for $45k, I bought it second hand with only 13k miles for $32k. After 4 months of ownership, I'm VERY happy with my purchase.

@xisotopex

Ай бұрын

is 2022 or 2021 the new generation of frontiers?

manufacturers should be ashamed of the pricing on these trucks.

@lamborghiniempanada7586

2 ай бұрын

Get a better job

@michaelsheedy

2 ай бұрын

Uh, that is why they have different trim levels meeting different income levels. They do from low 30s to high 40s before rebates.

@jamesm568

2 ай бұрын

People keep buying the damn things.

@EGGINFOOLS

2 ай бұрын

The trucks are more expensive because the dollar is worth less

@MultiPurposeReviewer

2 ай бұрын

​@@lamborghiniempanada7586"If you're homeless, just buy a house." A person can make a healthy living wage and still disapprove of these prices.

“Screen is too small” F-ING GOOD!

@MichaelLemosKilluminati5176_

2 ай бұрын

I don't think that's too small, just whatever screen they use on the Nissan looks cheap, reminds me of a best buy branded tablet haha, but that size screen is better than the massive Ranger one IMO

@JP-xq7fo

2 ай бұрын

How much do you think that screen costs to replace?

@06MoeJoe

2 ай бұрын

@@MichaelLemosKilluminati5176_ Oh I know, I'm just sick of car reviewers demanding home theater screens in cars then don't get it when we complain about high prices and the screens looking like shit. I'm in my lower 30's and I think the screens are stupid.

@guildrich

2 ай бұрын

@@06MoeJoeExactly! Even an "IMAX" screen wouldn't be big enough for these dildos! 🤣

@user-yj1gg5pc5r

2 ай бұрын

@@06MoeJoeDistracted driving deaths are up to around 3500 a year now. A little over 9 people a day! Why? Technology devices - screens, cell phones, gps devices, etc. I'm twice your age and will continue to by older cars and trucks without all of the tech built into them.

Frontier is the most underrated pickup truck. Absolute reliable beast of a midsizer

@gerry5786

2 ай бұрын

but you buy a nissan, the shit of Japanese cars.

@jfruser

2 ай бұрын

@@gerry5786 Let me introduce you to Mitsubishi... FTR, Nissan/Infinity RWD/NA vehicles are good stuff. Fronty, G370, Z-car,. Avoid anything with a CVT.

@ItsJosh

2 ай бұрын

The Nissan is already 10 years old every time a new model comes, better be reliable 🤣🤣.

@charlesjackson1700

2 ай бұрын

​@@gerry5786That is for sure about Nissan😅👎

@christopher9626

2 ай бұрын

Not now it isnt. I have a 2023 Frontier and it isnt a beast in anything other than mediocrity. That truck has zero business being 46k

I MUCH prefer less overly complex tech and a naturally aspirated V6.

@beexiong2995

2 ай бұрын

Turbochargers aren't new tech 😂 a V6 has way more moving parts. More things to go wrong

@theaveragewoodsman6002

2 ай бұрын

@beexiong2995 I never said turbos are new tech. Also, maybe you should talk to basically any mechanic because it's common knowledge that a naturally aspirated engine will last longer than a turbo engine if both are maintained correctly.

@beexiong2995

2 ай бұрын

@@theaveragewoodsman6002 it depends on who built the engine and transmission. Look at all the bad cvts from nissan. All the engine fires in hyundai. Lets not even get started on GM & Ford

@theaveragewoodsman6002

2 ай бұрын

@beexiong2995 I'm referring to a well-built, well maintained comparison. If all things are equal, the increased stress and complexity of a turbo engine shortens its lifespan. It's just a fact, like it or not.

@beexiong2995

2 ай бұрын

@@theaveragewoodsman6002 well unfortunately no manufacturer makes the same quality products. Based on consumer reports thats all you can rely on. A turbo ford is not the same as a turbo toyota. A nissan V6 is not the same as a jeep V6

I know a lot of people like the large screens in cars, but I am not a fan. I upgraded my base 4" radio to an 8" factory radio on my 2018 F-150, and that is perfect for me. I enjoy the tactile buttons.

@jordanalexander615

2 ай бұрын

Exactly and it's easier to mess with without really having to look away. I'm a big fan of steering wheel controls for the same reason. Honestly it's just safer.

@justinkeller6379

2 ай бұрын

I just hate the vertical screen. Makes you look way down when your eyes should be on the road.

@juanbarajas5376

2 ай бұрын

Agree with these comments, I bought a 23 Silverado in custom trim with the small screen. I test drove the higher trims with bigger screens and found it too distracting when driving.

@SoCalSeaChaser

2 ай бұрын

100% AGREE! These bigger screens are a joke and unless. There’s no need for such a gigantic screen. I love my 8” screen in my 2019 Ranger, it does just enough and has the right amount of options. Ford needs to learn the “KISS” way - Keep It Simple Stupid.

@Redfour5

2 ай бұрын

Same... One reason I wanted a 2023 Gladiator was the OLD 8.4 screen AND the old UConnect 4. I have "5" on my Truck and it sucks...

I'd go with the Nissan because I HATE when manufacturers use massive touch screens. Buttons and knobs are much more intuitive for controls. I like the 8" screen for CarPlay in my F-150, but any larger than that is totally unnecessary and it eats in to the space where they should be putting buttons instead.

195k miles on my 15' Frontier desert runner. No problems and the thing starts right up. Hands down the most underrated trucks!

Yes! An engine that doesn't need a turbo to get up and get down the road. LOVE IT!

@freedomisntfree_44

2 ай бұрын

A slug 😂 I wish I could slap a turbo on my v6

@midlifecrisis7888

2 ай бұрын

@@freedomisntfree_44not when a total engine rebuild is needed 😂😂😂

@jbstepchild

2 ай бұрын

See an this is the problem would you trade an e motor at low speeds or a turbo at all speeds im torn na is fine it has its place but induction is slow to the go like a scared cat I want instant torque til about 60mph then allow the motor to take over upto 150 that's all and it wouldn't have to be 0-60 in 1.9 but a solid 3 would be perfect

@freedomisntfree_44

2 ай бұрын

@@midlifecrisis7888 don’t need an engine rebuild

@paulhunter9613

2 ай бұрын

@@midlifecrisis7888 yea I could see that n/a engine having to be rebuilt as it strains to tow anything with weight to it😖

Adre, I towed my son’s BMW on a car trailer with my Frontier (about 5,000lbs total) and the engine purred at about 2K rpm virtually the whole way. Never seemed stressed at all. Love the truck!

@BC08

2 ай бұрын

Cool story, only believable if the entire trip was downhill. Otherwise 🐂💩

@xFactoryUSA

2 ай бұрын

The most BMW story ever 😂

@hondamotorsrider

2 ай бұрын

@@BC08 it's actually accurate. I have a '22 Frontier and tow a 17' travel trailer with mine (just over 4,100 pounds loaded). For about 80% of my drive from Cincinnati to Myrtle Beach, the truck doesn't get above 2,100-2,200 rpm. The mountains caused the truck to periodically downshift a couple of gears, but the engine NEVER once got above 3,200 rpm. I am not a Nissan fanboy by any means- I bought the truck because I got a deal I couldn't pass up in today's market.

@sierratough4934

2 ай бұрын

@@BC08 watch this channel they tow over 6k up the ike gauntlet with this truck with no problems.

@BC08

2 ай бұрын

@@sierratough4934 At redline

It's great how you always compare rear seat room

@gregmoessner3104

2 ай бұрын

I’d rather have no seat room and the bigger box. These are barely trucks if they can’t haul much in the back

@garygraycar5751

2 ай бұрын

Rear seat not important. I would go the rear seat delete for more storage, if available.

@diesel6916

2 ай бұрын

Andrea driving the Nissan with his knees in his chin and says its normal LOL

@MrMikeDao

2 ай бұрын

​@@gregmoessner3104that's why half ton and 3/4 ton trucks exist. Different tools different uses derp

I'm going with the nissan! Love the look and it's naturally aspirated!

@kennetho5393

2 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with torque from a turbo and is better suited for truck duty. I'll take the Ranger any day.

@vfate9786

2 ай бұрын

@@kennetho5393i agree and disagree, turbos are definitely better for torque but heavier on the maintenance compared to the Nissan v6 basically been making the same v6 for 20 years with plenty of examples over 400k all the way up to 900k with basic maintenance. With that being said I think the frontier is the better “Truck” more reliable and better bang for your buck. Both nice trucks regardless

@kennetho5393

2 ай бұрын

@@vfate9786 Don't forget Ford has had this 2.3 Ecoboost in the Mustang since late 2014 and there are high mileage examples out there too. Ranger is nearing 5 years with a slightly different version and doing well. It's just routine fluids and not much else.

@bryanmathew2079

2 ай бұрын

Liking The Nissan & The Red To@ Base mdL. Be Fine 4 me, if Ya Need More/ReaL Truck@ Works etc... & Bigger Truck WouLd Be Wise. FOr; 6-k. Towing Truck Turbos Arn't Neccasary.

Would be happy to get that Frontier. Lovely V6. And simpler interior. And not a huge screen.

The SV Hardbody is priced same as the Pro4x, but with Pro4x you get more features, better look, and technology

I don't realistically do heavy off roading. We have toys/alternate vehicles for that. That being said, I am very satisfied with my '22 Frontier SV. It's towed 5,000lbs + back and forth from PA-FL without a problem. Plenty of power. Transmission does a decent job engine breaking and is definitely noticeable for what it is. It's definitely not a big human back seat, but it totally works in a pinch. The steering wheel not telescope, but it's actually in my seating position so it's not a problem. I can confirm with you saying that I do not like how a forced induction engine drives. We do a TON of lighter weight towing with our off road toys, etc... and I know the turbo motor have power, mpg, etc, etc, etc... I will avoid it at all costs cus I genuinely dislike how they tow. In a little family car, fine. I just use my truck for truck-esque stuff too much and absolutely cannot stand the turbo engine. The linear speed, predictable power, and simplicity of a naturally aspirated engine will be my truck choice until it's no longer an option.

I do like the non turbo engine option on the Nissan.

Truck trials sounds awesome. Your videos a couple years back was a big source of information when I researching mid-size trucks. There was a lot to go through since it was usually 2 manufacturers compared at a time.

What a cool comparison! The Nissan is more "old school" traditional power steering, etc. The Ford seems to be more high tech, and modern.

Loving the "Driving Mr. Nathan" vibe and his color commentary. Also looking forward to the V6 EcoBoost review.

My first vehicle was a 1994 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab 4.0L V6 with manual transmission. I paid $15,500 for it out the door and I got rid of it in 2008 with 200,000 miles. Now I wish I would have held on to it. LOL

@davewilson8308

2 ай бұрын

It wasn’t my first vehicle but in 1990 I bought a new XLT Supercab 4x4 Ranger with automatic for 18k out the door. Sold it to a friend 2002 with 298k miles…replaced one water pump, brakes and spark plugs only. I believe he had over 400k when he sold it with same motor and transmission.

@Eclipse-ss7ko

2 ай бұрын

I had a 2001 Ford Ranger XLT with an extended cab (suicide doors) with an auto trans. I got rid of mine in 2001 with 210,000 miles and all I did was replace the water pump on the truck $350. The rest was regular maintainence. 4 sets of tires and front brakes 4 or 5 times. I never had to replace the rear brakes. Loved the truck.

@Eclipse-ss7ko

2 ай бұрын

sorry 2021

@paulchapman1933

2 ай бұрын

I had a 96 and 3- 2000's in my business. They were bullet proof. And they are still on the road with over 200k on each.

@stevedaff9774

2 ай бұрын

@@paulchapman1933 They are solid little trucks, and I miss the one I used to drive. I am not no sure all of the new complicated GDI turbo engines (from any manufacturer) are going to be as reliable.

Great job guys!!! love the side by side!!❤😊🎉

Love my Datsun by Nissan. With the exception of tires, few batteries, the seat covering, and one intake coolant hose, all original and Still runs perfectly on the original plugs! -1979 620 5 speed getting 32mpg for all of my life. This new Nissian will hold up to its name, would be nice to see tailgate chains/latches for long-term reliability.

@nickdeagle3271

2 ай бұрын

They all rusted out here. Glad to here yours is a beast.

@Blue-moon12

2 ай бұрын

Classic truck and you just don't see them anymore.

@Dat_Sun

2 ай бұрын

@nickdeagle3271 Has minimal rust thanks to its salt free life here in the Colorado rockies. Runs the same gauntlet tfc tow tests new trucks on. It's about time to get it out of the storage container for the year.

@engineer_alv

2 ай бұрын

I owned a rust free (CA truck) 1984 Nissan 720 4x4 with a 5 spd. Mine did great up until 284K miles when I rebuilt the synchros on the gearbox and the engine. Not too shabby considering the Z24 engine was notorious for heads cracking.

@carlc5748

2 ай бұрын

My very first car, at age 18, was a new 1975 Datsun truck, 4 speed manual trans, $3700 total price, including all taxes and license. I still have the original loan paperwork, at 10% interest, The truck was very durable, and reliable. I modified it putting on headers, 2 1/4" exhaust (for a nice throaty sound), Offenhauser intake manifold, and Mallory Unilite electronic ignition system. I was a part of the new mini truck craze, that started in the mid 70's in southern California. Glad that you still have yours, and that it's held up so long for you!

When the nissan seatbelt warning was going off I thought My microwave was beeping

@DoubleTap1115

2 ай бұрын

Same!!!😂

@egresk1

2 ай бұрын

omfg same

@vhrr68

2 ай бұрын

Now I know what to expect, just bought a frontier

@bryanmathew2079

2 ай бұрын

Mundane 😢Chimes.

I just bought a 2024 Honda Ridgline Trailsport, and it's an awesome ride. I'm hoping I'll get that Honda reliability out of it.

Eh, I wou;dn't get the Frontier Hardbody edition just because it looks great. I would get a Pro-4X for maybe 3-4k less and more features.

@engineer_alv

2 ай бұрын

agreed, I love the Hardbody wheels and exterior treatment overall because it reminds me of my childhood (my family owned a 97), but man nostalgia is expensive.

@HotSneks

2 ай бұрын

@@engineer_alv Indeed, my family's first car was a late 1980s Pathfinder with the triangle windows and those lego wheels too. Good times.

I am 100% Ford, I own three vehicles and all three are Ford's. But with that said I'd take the Nissan over that Ranger. The Nissan has everything a person needs without over complicating it. Not to mention the N/A V6. Andre said they've tested the small displacement with turbo engines before, one year & 10,000 miles is not testing. My 2008 F-150 has the 4.2 N/A V6 with a little over 200,000 miles on it. And that's 200,000 miles of hauling & towing on it with no issues at all. No it's not the fastest, no it can't jump a dirt hill, but it's ready to go to work.

@NOXStellans

2 ай бұрын

"If we have to have environmental regulations, we need one that requires manufacturers to warranty their cars through 100,000 miles. If your car doesn't average 200,000k miles you suck as a manufacturer." - Not entirely a throw-away-thought?

@jordanalexander615

2 ай бұрын

I gotta say I know it's not apples to apples comparison but the 2012 Ford f350 with a 6.2 gas engine will not die. But the Diesels had to have work done well before the Ford even needed transmission work. Pulling the same heavy trailers. The motor has 328k and had one coil pack replaced and an exhaust manifold bolt replaced. Never leaked fluids and is still going. Ridiculously durable.

@kennetho5393

2 ай бұрын

The Ford 4.2 V6 was one of the worst truck engines they ever had. Lacks torque and sucks fuel. My dad had one in reg cab 4x4 and the 5.4 Triton F-150 Supercab 4x4 he bought next got better mpgs. Now he has a 2.3 Ranger that is getting much better mpgs. Best combo of power and fuel economy.

@scottyellis3442

2 ай бұрын

@@kennetho5393 I will say that I was expecting better mileage out of my 4.2 but I drive it every day & 90% of the time it has tools, & material's in it, & a lot of the time it's pulling a small trailer 5X10 loaded with materials. And it averages 18 mpg, my brother's F150 Platinum with the Coyote does better, so yes I was a little disappointed in that. But with 200,000 miles on it and I've never touched it other than maintenance "oil changes" & it has always performed with anything I hook to it I'm happy with it. I bought a Ford Escape & trailer it home with absolutely no problem. These small overpressure turbo engines they're pumping out today has plenty of power but I don't believe they will ever last like any N/A engine will

@kennetho5393

2 ай бұрын

@@scottyellis3442 We were too and I told him the 4.6 V8 (there was no 5.4 at the time he ordered his 4.2 F-150) would do better and get better mpgs. I also have an Escape but with the 2.0 turbo and 8 speed. It pulls like mad with a heavy trailer and keep the oil changed as appropriate and I'm sure it will last. My last oil analysis was flawless with 8,000 mile changes on AMSOIL.

Interesting that the Nissan seems to have a slightly more comfortable back seat area than the Ranger. It's minor but noticeable in the video. I'd like to see the same demonstration with the Colorado. I'd also like to see a LxWxH comparison of the beds on these mid-sized trucks.

A Pro-4X would have been the appropriate comparison to an FX4.

@krasnaludek298

2 ай бұрын

Incorrect … the Pro-4X would misalign the prices. Watch the video and they clearly state that these carry the same sticker price.

@Dusdaddy

2 ай бұрын

@@krasnaludek298 Agreed---A loaded Pro-4x would have been $50K so not really comparable. They did a good job.

@stillpedaling3551

2 ай бұрын

My pro-4x was $43k msrp. You can spec the pro-4x into the $50ks but it starts at $39,560.

@jaylee8542

2 ай бұрын

@@Dusdaddy of course they are going to make it about price. The ranger FX4 is inferior to the PRO-4x from an offroad standpoint. Their job is to help Ford sell trucks.

@gnd111

2 ай бұрын

Not all Pro-4X are 4wd

So excited for the truck trials. Y’all are great!

Great review!.........But, I would love to see how the headlights are at night! I do a lot of night driving and would love to see head to head comparisons!!!

Always up for a pickup comparison!

I had a 88 hardbody 4x4 5 speed and i loved it a lot

My local Nissan lot has some crazy incentives on these frontiers, so even though they are priced the same, the frontier will come out about $5-7K lower than the Ranger after all said and done. I made a video on it

I miss my Frontier Terribly. I bought the 2020 old body style with new engine. It consistently got my 20-21 mpgs. Unfortunately I had to part ways because my family was growing and got an F150.

@paulhunter9613

2 ай бұрын

An f150 gets better mpg than a frontier, it’s depends on what engine you choose. The supercrew f150 has a huge rear seating area, at 6’3 I still have room of 4-6” between the knee and seatback

My 2024 XLT FX4 with spray in bedliner and integrated side steps is only costing me $40,445

@benjaminbrown7127

2 ай бұрын

Nice

@krasnaludek298

2 ай бұрын

Plus, Ford knows trucks. I’ve owned multiple Ford trucks & they’re very durable, despite the Toyota fanboys thinking otherwise.

@sierratough4934

2 ай бұрын

@@krasnaludek298 There wasn't a Toyota here.

@Pantelifts10

2 ай бұрын

​@krasnaludek298 Toyota fanboys still have a point when it comes to previous generation of Tundra/Tacoma. New gens is another story..

@nickdeagle3271

2 ай бұрын

@@sierratough4934it’s in the shop

May not have telescopic steering wheel but I enjoy my 22 Frontier just a straight V6, analog gauges just straight plain and simple. And no giant touch screen that has every tied into it.

Great overview and perspective of these two trucks. Looking forward to seeing the big show on all the mid-sized trucks.

The Ford for leasing to a young person that only needs a truck for a fashion statement. The Nissan for purchasing to a grownup that has property and will drive it 20 plus years till the wheels fall off. That’s why I have the Frontier.

@devildog5354

2 ай бұрын

18 years on my 06 Frontier now. Wheels are still on (laughing)...

The Ranger being able to fit 4ft between the wheel wells is great. With the tailgate down a 4X8 foot sheet of plywood only hangs about a foot and a half beyond the back of the truck.

@spyder000069

2 ай бұрын

nissan available in 6ft bed with kingcab and slightly narrower overall width may fit better in garage.

@Bill-vb1ik

2 ай бұрын

Well I don't like putting a red flag on 2x4s because they hang out

@tc6580

2 ай бұрын

A TRUCK has an 8ft bed gate up when hauling basic building lumber.

@spyder000069

2 ай бұрын

@@tc6580 I use a 5x8 trailer attached to my little ford ecosport for that. 22mpg verses taking my F250 out at 14mpg. Trailer does atv duty and also is pulled by mower when we are picking up sticks out the yard. Very handy.

@paulhunter9613

2 ай бұрын

@@spyder000069 but it can’t carry sheet materials between the wheel wells

Wholly F! Take my money!!!! That Nissan Frontier Hardbody!!!! Had a 1986.5 Hardbody SEV6 5 speed 4x4 back in the day. It was the same color, same wheels.(different tires) It was NOT a 4door obviously. But what a truck! I miss it to this very day. I had a 1995 Pathfinder SEV6 4x4. Same colors, same wheels. Was fantastic as well! This NEW truck/trim is a must have for Nissan enthusiasts. Hell, I don't even need a truck anymore and want to go out and buy it and I am only 53 seconds into this video!

Great series

Great review! Im from South Africa and I bought the new Ranger in December. Its interesting the difference in powertrains we get compared to you guys I have the XL with 2.0 single turbo. Here we have the option of the 2.0 single turbo, 2.0 bi-turbo, 3.0 v6 (all diesels) or the Raptor I am very happy so far. Fuel economy is decent so far. Will see what the reliablility will be like, its not my first Ford and my previous onss did well My ranger XL has vents in the back :) but I dont have power outlets in the bin

I've never owned a Ford but I would consider one. I've owned two Nissan trucks and both rusted out before 7 years of ownership here in the northeast and I take care of my vehicles. Aside from the rust, the Nissan was a good truck

@BC08

2 ай бұрын

Nissan hasn’t made a good truck since the Hardbody went out of production. Renault-era Nissan is just sad

@theaveragewoodsman6002

2 ай бұрын

I'd personally stay away from Ford. They've led the industry in recalls 3 years in a row.

@St.Irenaeus

2 ай бұрын

@@BC08 🤣🤣🤣 sure buddy

@trishaleaver3581

2 ай бұрын

Get an f150. Aluminum for the win!

@BC08

2 ай бұрын

@@St.Irenaeus “jApAnEsE qUaLitY” 🥴

I love the people complaining about turbos in a truck. Ever heard of a turbo diesel? They’ve been around for quite a while and pretty powerful….

Nathan being from the San Fernando Valley explains a lot! Not a bad thing though. I got my driver's license at the Glendale DMV office in April 1972, driving a Datsun PL520. My wife, who was a Valley girl from James Monroe high school, bought a 1985 Ford Ranger 4wd new. Both trucks have changed so drastically for the better. I considered a midsize truck last year. But bought a Jeep JLU to tow behind our Ram 2500 4wd 6.7L with a 4wheel popup camper. Another great review, with lots of information not typically found elsewhere.

The ranger really is a beast. I had a 2020 with the 2.3L and loved it. Bought it on rebate for $30K. It Towed and Hauled effortlessly; Even in the Tennessee mountains. I put multiple performance upgrades on and it was a blast. In the end I traded it for a new Bronco bc despite all of that, the ranger was miserable on long distance trips. If and when I buy another truck; for $46K, I’d just spend the extra money and get a heavy duty. Midsize trucks are nice in principle but I don’t see the market for them when they cost this much.

The complaint about engine covers is so childish. Who genuinely cares how pretty an engine bay is? With how complicated these bays are getting, just leave them open without a cover so its easier to see around at a quick glance.

@engineer_alv

2 ай бұрын

moreover this is an easy fix, Ford sells the cover (or at least did for the previous gen). I think it should be standard equipment because it's just a small piece of plastic that should not cost Ford more than $30 to make/source, but if it's not there it won't hurt reliability, which is much more important than aesthetics

I'm hoping that one day you guys will actually make a good comparison when it comes to the Frontier, you ALWAYS compare it to the wrong trim. The comparisons you should be doing are as follows: Frontier Pro4x vs Ford Ranger FX4 Frontier Pro4x vs Tacoma TRD Offroad (3rd gen) Frontier Pro4x vs Chevy Colorado Trail Boss and Z71 Frontier Pro4x vs GMC Canyon Elevation and AT4 I did all of these comparisons recently when truck shopping and quickly realized that the Pro4x is by far the best value for the money. Sure it has it's drawbacks but it's value is undeniable in the segment, last of a dying breed.

You can get massive discount on the Nissan I just bought the pro 4x for 39k

@MrWolf2212

2 ай бұрын

You made a good decision. That V6 will last a long time

@kennyg7102

24 күн бұрын

I paid 39000 for my 2022 pro4x lol

Put them on the rollers!!

When it comes to trucks and cars I want normal sized screens none of this 10 inch or larger screens. Sure it's easier to use and see. But night driving it's distracting. My idea may not carry any support but I'd be okay with the screen being big when parked or backing up. But when driving it gets smaller to reduce to overall lighting. Even in dark mode it blinds me when someone calls. And only reason for it to be full sized backing up for the camera if it's available.

I like the Frontier, but if I saw these 2 trucks sitting side by side on a lot and they were priced the exact same, I would go with the Ranger. Rear locker, better tires, and payload win over a roll bar and nostalgic wheels for me

@NOXStellans

2 ай бұрын

Real-world prices might vary for the next 12 months or so??? - It will be harder to get a Ranger without a mark-up but a Frontier may come with a discount?

Good video

Andre, your Tacoma is literally a base model truck that has 4x4 and that it is. The Ranger is a much better deal pricewise. From all mis-size truck, I like the Ranger Raptor the most. I am a Toyota fan, but the pricing of the new Tacoma sucks, big time.

Good comparison. I do love the power and torque being available at a calmer 2000 RPM VS taching out an NA engine. And that payload on the Nissan is a joke, they could have done better there. I would happily own either truck. I daily a 2020 Ranger though

I just purchased the 2024 chevy Colorado trailboss with all the options I wanted leather interior cruise control spray in bedliner etc for over 5k less than these 2 trucks cost.

One thing you may want to include in your midsize truck reviews is whether or not you can flat tow its very important for rv'ers who like to flat tow behind there rv. I believe chevy,gmc,ford can be flat towed, and Nissan,toyota can not unless its a manual 4x4.

@amandahuginkiss4098

2 ай бұрын

Learn how to spell.

With taxes and dealer additional accessories costs...about $50k+.....will keep my old truck.

Best Frontier is the S. If you're in the same config (quad cab, 4x4) you get 1,290 lbs of payload for 36k. 1,290 is not amazing, but is far better than what's provided here.

@Anon92.46

Ай бұрын

That’s MSRP. You can get Frontiers at a discount, especially the S trim.

@barry4134

29 күн бұрын

@@Anon92.46 Not in Michigan

Looking forward to the trials!

Always good to see Nathan make an appearance.

Andre's Trail Boss is the best value in the mid size category.

@michygeorg

2 ай бұрын

If you add cruise control, it's not as good of a price.

The turbo equipped powertrains never live up to the EPA ratings... they are great for gaming CAFE though.

@poppyneese1811

2 ай бұрын

Yea my 23 F150 gets 2 mpg better in town and .5 on the highway better than what the EPA says it should, maybe cause the 2.7 has2 Turbos!😏

@jaylapointe1654

2 ай бұрын

It's all about how you drive it. If you always put your foot in it, it will lose fuel economy because of the boost.

@charliehargrave7458

2 ай бұрын

Turbo engines are built for emissions not fuel economy. Will take a non turbo engine over a turbo all day long, more to break and more to cost you money.

@jaylapointe1654

2 ай бұрын

@charliehargrave7458 that is wrong. A turbo can be built for fuel economy or power. So many people ignore the fact that Engines over seas have used turbos just fine for over 20 years. Change your oil properly, and most turbos don't have issues.

@ALMX5DP

2 ай бұрын

I can get over what the EPA states with our Ecoboost. I also often get worse when I’m driving how I like to drive. But it’s possible and similar to my 5.0 where I can either do better or worse depending on the day or trip.

I like the manual rear window; many trucks now have either an electric rear window, or solid glass. The excuse was the rear was too big for the driver to reach and close while driving (in case of a gas attack, I guess), but clearly that isn’t the case as the rear of the ranger is just as big as many trucks that don’t offer it.

The reason my folks and I traditionally never went for a turbo car was actually insurance costs. Now it's hard to not have a car with turbo and insurance is insane no matter what.

OH! That Nissan has the old school wheels!! Nice.

Tacoma, Frontier, Ranger, Colorado/Canyon Gladiator, Ridgeline then Dakota. My ranking of mid-size trucks 🛻! In Kenya you only see Toyota Helix or Nissan Dessert Runners

@Mike-te1xx

2 ай бұрын

Right, I'm buying a truck because they're a big seller in Kenya? Good qualifying criteria. 👍Next time I look for a vehicle I'll be sure to see what sells in Kenya.

@BRBNWolf

2 ай бұрын

You don’t need the others! You get the best of the best already lucky 🍀 you 🇰🇪! Only wish we got the 70 series Toyotas here in the USA. 😢

@DMSparky

2 ай бұрын

@@Mike-te1xxDo you know why they sell well in Kenya? Probably because they don’t break… the amount of warranty stories I hear from guys with new trucks of all makes and models is pretty wild.

@engineer_alv

2 ай бұрын

​@@DMSparky there are several reasons, most of those countries don't have the same variety of vehicles as North America and also there's this thing about maintenance, specially when it comes to some groups of anti government people that won't do their maintenance at the local shop, but rather do it themselves or hire their own techs. That's why fleets also stick to one brand whenever possible

After driving my f150 ecoboost 300k miles tried a nissan titan with a v8. I just couldn't pull the trigger because it seemed like it was lacking power. The ecoboost has been solid. Sure it might coast $1500 more in maintenance over 10 years but it is worth it. I probably saved 20k in fuel.

Is there any difference between the f350 platinum high output and f350 platinum tremor high output when towing? Which one is better overall in your opinion?

Half ton pickup prices for midsize trucks. And that's being kind.

If I am going by looks alone I would get the Nissan. The huge deal breaker for these trucks for me though is no 4WD auto. That mode is what I use the most on road when the weather is bad.

@Blue-moon12

2 ай бұрын

It's just one dial. Less things to fail also

@MrTonaluv

2 ай бұрын

Ranger Raptor has it

@firstlast---

2 ай бұрын

4 auto isn't a big deal. Ford's switch into 4wd extremely fast because of the vacuum hubs

@kabloosh699

2 ай бұрын

@@firstlast--- 4WD is great for off roading or the roads are a complete dump, but not great for the drivetrain on paved surfaces hence why I like 4 auto since it acts more like AWD which is better for variable conditions.

A brand new 2024 Frontier Pro-4X in my area sales for 40k. It's hard to beat at that price, compared to everything else.

worth mentioning at this point in the winds of change is that hybrids will be the better choice. GREAT review guys!👍

I would go Frontier, I am a Toyota Fan boy and since they went Turbo I am out. I really like the Frontier. Nissan could gain a ton of market share if they just changed some of the design to what people want. Do some more blackout wheels and some crazy colors like a orange or a green like toyota has done. follow the trend. front locker would also be nice,

@gregmoessner3104

2 ай бұрын

Increase the payload!

@JollyGiant19

2 ай бұрын

Toyota has been doing turbo vehicles for decades in the Land Cruiser or Hilux. Those are super reliable 😁

@beexiong2995

2 ай бұрын

I don't think you understand that nissan will soon be going turbo 4 as well. Go ask them and they will tell you

@andrewtamkin2511

2 ай бұрын

only because they are diesel and need a turbo to go.@@JollyGiant19

@user-tb7rn1il3q

2 ай бұрын

NA V6s are very anemic especially in the Rockies. They aren’t going to last with extended WOT bouncing off the rev limiter.

Omg the wheels 😍😍on the nissan so old and classic

Gotta love the price of EVERYTHING nowadays. Trucks are nuts as everyone knows. I just paid over $3 for a pepperoni stick

Guys - Look under the seat where your feet are there is a rear heater vent there! Also I'm very fortunate the telescoping steering wheel fits me just fine in the Nissan. I also have 360 cameras in the P4X. And Adaptive Cruise control. I got the Nissan P4x on discount below MSRP for 41K. ooh and that's with a locker!.. so I think right now they are closer than they appear.

NA ICE > Turbo ICE

The majority of power tools today are cordless. Anyone that works out of their truck knows how convenient it is to be able to charge batteries when there is no power or when you need to get to the next job and charge on the way. Everything is rechargeable now, I've had a inverter in my work van for the last 20 years for this reason. It's nice they're building them in now.

I bought a 2018 tundra sr5 4x4 double cab brand new off the lot for $29,000. To think that these tiny trucks with similar interiors and technology cost more than $16,000 more is insane!

The 2.7 ecoboost is going to be a beast in the Ranger. I'm really looking forward to the Ranger 2.7 and Tacoma Iforce max hybrid test on the Ike Gauntlet. Also the Tacoma TRD Pro vs Ranger Raptor vs ZR2 showdown offroad.

@engineer_alv

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, if my F150 Supercrew 4x4 does mid 6s with the 2.7 I can't imagine how much it would do in a Ranger. Too bad Ford detuned these engines for Ranger duty (both the 2.3 and 2.7 Eco) to avoid overlapping power with the Mustang and F150 respectively.

@rts3613

2 ай бұрын

@@engineer_alv Hopefully, there will be some good tunes out there for the 2.7, to get that hp back and then some.

Andre, Nathan, and the Camera Man in the Nissan and they're almost at Max Payload. Less than 1100 pounds of payload is terrible...

@EGGINFOOLS

2 ай бұрын

My wifes traverse has much more than that. Hell, my malibu has 900

$5k too much for both. Ford's CEO is pulling in $20M each year and consumers pay for it through overpriced vehicles.

love to see both going off road and compared.

Nissan is now doing what GM used to do and be known for, which is being a little more old school I terms of technology and features, and I'm all for it! I like that the Nissan offers a large displacement, naturally aspirated V6. The dash and screen are a little behind the Ford but I don't buy trucks for the toys and screens on the dash. Something tells me the Frontier will hold up better in the long run. I don't trust Fords at all due to me and my family's previous experiences with FoMoCo, and I ESPECIALLY don't trust them to build a long-term, reliable small turbo I4...

The hardbody edition should have been an absolute bare bones 4x4

I like the Ford.

@peterstreechon384

2 ай бұрын

I have a 2017 GMC Canyon with the V6. Average 24 mpg after 53,000 miles on the trip odometer, which I have never cleared. Plenty of power .

The cargo capacity of that Frontier is actually 983 lbs according to the sticker right below the Tire and Load info sticker.

If it's a V8 ,V6. it's all about the sound 😀. I was a Service Writer for 20 years. I would buy the naturally aspirated V6 over a 4 cylinder turbo. More heat,more wear and more seals with a turbo.

The problem is that even the best turbos in the world last 100k miles at most best case scenario so all having a turbo does is add a 7500 to 10 k bill every 100k miles

@jfruser

2 ай бұрын

Ouch

@ALMX5DP

2 ай бұрын

@@jfruser ah now I see where your bias lies if you don’t question any of that at all.

@firstlast---

2 ай бұрын

Where are you basing that information from?

@ALMX5DP

2 ай бұрын

@@firstlast--- my guess is internet fueled ignorance.

@jfruser

2 ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP If by "bias" you mean accumulated experience over decades, sure I am biased.

Y did you get the hard body .lots of extra stuff to raise the price. The pro4x wood have been a better option. And it has the locker. If you are going to take them offroad it would be more fair.

I went with the fully loaded 24 Frontier Pro 4X because I got it about 11k cheaper than the fully loaded 24 Tacoma TRD Off-Road(57k!!!!)

Being 6'3" tall I'm so glad I nolonger have my midsize Colorado and have my full size Ram 1500 Crew Cab. The space is so wonderful in a full size truck. I'd be so content on never having another truck again. Unfortunately I fear the powers that be will force me one day into a battery operated truck. Hopefully that day will be many yrs away.

"Don't trust turbos" Yes. If automakers are so confident about them, give us a 150,000 mile warranty on turbo replacement across all brands.

@beexiong2995

2 ай бұрын

Dont worry the nissan will need a new transmission before the turbo goes 😂

@bryanmathew2079

2 ай бұрын

Put a 6.8Ltr. V-8 Gas Engine& foCo😮, .... ....CouLd Have a new Customer@ $35-k.

@bryanmathew2079

2 ай бұрын

Yep, 175-k. No HaggLe New Turbo 4 These 😢inSANE Prices.

Frontier all day for me. Naturally aspirated power for the win. I also prefer the simplicity of the interior. As much as I love the look of this Hardbody trim, I'd opt for a base "S" trim 2-door. I need the lower price and better utility. The Hardbody kit is so cool though. I love the retro 1980s wheels!

Love my Frontier and I wouldn’t have that bar on the bed, it’s pointless. Ford did a solid job on the new Ranger

My 2016 6.2l GMC 1500 4x4 gets over 20 mpg on the highway. This water in Minnesota driving in town and using auto start t warm it up never went below 15.2mpg.

Yeah, the Ranger has more tech! But that's just more junk to go wrong. I've gotten along without °360 cameras for decades without a problem. For me less is more. Just give me a N/A engine, that lasts. Wish midsize trucks would have a 6' bed. Both are too much money. Oh, a manual in the Nissan would be nice!

@91CavGT5

2 ай бұрын

I 100% agree. I wish manufacturers still made a true mid sized work truck. Manual seats, crank windows, manual locks, no nanny safety features, make AC an option, basic V6 without displacement on demand and without direct injection, and of course a manual transmission.