You’ll never get a person to understand something that their livelihood depends on them misunderstanding.

@wyrmh0le

Жыл бұрын

- Benjamin Franklin

@ahobimo732

Жыл бұрын

I've been struck by this exact observation many times. And every time I'm reminded of it it's a maddenly frustrating experience. It's very disheartening to me when authentic communication with another person becomes impossible.

@dragons_red

9 ай бұрын

Not just their livelihood, these days it's their fragile worldview.

@tuckernutter

7 ай бұрын

I think the same can be said of anyone from any demographic, especially those who believe in false dichotomies

@mightytaiger3000

6 ай бұрын

And you’ll never get someone to admit they’re wrong when their sense of righteousness depends on their misinformed stance.🤡

"Hollywood's a mess..." "Ha! of course it is, with all the sexual abuse and..." "...because of the high minimum wage" "...oh. This is one of THOSE channels"

“Trade and commerce are the opposite of violence” Explain the Opium Wars, Sean.

@davidtaylor142

6 ай бұрын

Or basically any modern war

@cyclone313

6 ай бұрын

Conveniently ignoring the period of time when *people* were trade and commerce. Unless he thinks the Atlantic slave trade wasn't violent somehow

@Vesperitis

6 ай бұрын

@@davidtaylor142or a lot of ancient ones too

@MushiePuppet17

6 ай бұрын

Trade agreements can have devastating effects for local populations, causing their markets to go into crisis, people to migrate away seeking a living, increased organized crime, political upheaval... it's not precisely like shooting someone in the face, but it takes a deliberate lack of imagination to not call that "violence."

@jake______

6 ай бұрын

explain all trade, sean

Libertarians: the government is bad and evil Me: yup I agree, I'm on the same page Libertarians: for instance, the age of consent

@ChannelMath

Ай бұрын

holy f, not a good first go-to! I'd say drugs if I was being an honest libertarian! But sleeping in public comes to mind. Or allowing people to build homes less that some gigantic size that costs a million to build! that pisses me off. Idk if war is technically a libertarian issue, but I'd say anti-war could be the go-to.

@edgarcardiff7874

Ай бұрын

Does he know?

"Im not a shill i just write propaganda videos for one of the most powerful right wing think tanks in American history."

@spiritualanarchist8162

6 ай бұрын

I'm not a bitter guy who can't sell a script ..It's the collective lefties that keep my talent being recognized !

@newperve

2 ай бұрын

Yeah because so much policy is libertarian like, like, wait there had to be something... Federal reserve system? Note.. Endless wars? The massive Ponzi scheme you call a retirement plan? His sanity billions of disgusts l dollars of corporate bailouts? COVID lockdowns? Nope. But keep telling yourself that libertarians are powerful.

Give me a conservative KZreadr and I'll show you a failed creative. So many of these people originally wanted to write movies and such but had no imagination for it. Ben Shapiro wanted to write movies but failed at it so he created the Daily Wire to rage at Hollywood for not picking him. I'm sure this guy was the same way.

@JordanJumpin

2 ай бұрын

*cough* a specific mustache man *cough* art school *cough*

@poindextertunes

Ай бұрын

@@JordanJumpindamn 😂

@ChristopherSadlowski

Ай бұрын

Ben Shapiro even had an inside connection! His father worked in the industry. When nepotism doesn't get you in the door of the industry with THE MOST NEPOTISM then you know you can't write for shit. I mean, were taking absolute garbage if your dad's friends in the biz can't even punch your scripts up. Hollywood is known for turning dog water into Aquafina. If they can't find a single way to rework your script into something at least decent...well, we see what the outcome is. Now we all have to suffer Ben acting a fool until his final day.

@ChannelMath

Ай бұрын

just like their boy A.Hitty

@flamemasterelan

22 күн бұрын

@@ChristopherSadlowski "An inside connection" is underselling it, and his father's the least important part of it. His father is a composer who worked in Hollywood, while his mother was a TV Executive. You might also know his cousin, Mara Wilson, who played Matilda. He spent the entirety of his life in LA, being born there and studying political science at UCLA before finally leaving to go to Harvard. He had every door open for him when it came to get a job in Hollywood, but nobody wanted to buy his scripts.

I knew this would be cursed as soon as the video claimed Hollywood was failing because of "hyper-unionization" instead of, ya know, the exact opposite

@thomaskositzki9424

4 ай бұрын

Dem freaking Commies ruin everything! 💩

Tapped on this video to play it in the background, and I ACTUALLY KNOW THAT GUY! He was a pretty good drummer and composer in college and wanted to score movies/television/commercials. He was nice enough out of high school, but got less and less fun as he got out of college. He and his brother grew up in a rural-ish community in Nebraska, financially comfortable, went to public school, had a parent employed by public school, and Sean always seemed resentful about that kind of stuff. Resentful towards public schools, towards community, just a bit of a bummer to talk to. Nice to see his one or two Econ classes are still what he is drawing from 20 years later.

@themorbidzoo

2 ай бұрын

Lol this is hysterical. People like him think they’re so forward-thinking and independent while they disrespect the things other people constantly do to make their lives possible, exactly the thing they accuse everyone else of.

@Crazy_Diamond_75

Ай бұрын

I went to a really underfunded public elementary school whose primary student population were children of migrant workers and military families. I wouldn't trade that experience for the world. Why would someone resent public school so much? I really don't understand these people.

Anyone who is claiming to not have a political affiliation is deceiving themselves. You may not be affiliated with a political party, but if you have any beliefs whatsoever, they are definitely going to align with a political term that is in some way controversial

The beauty of the Ghostbusters example is that while Peck is an asshole, he isnt entirely wrong. Venoman's response to being questioned by the EPA (justifiably) about what it is they do, is to lash out angrily, he doesnt consuly a lawyer, he doesnt do anything to assuage the concerns of government regulators, he threatens to sue someone. Worse is that the incredibly dangerous laser containment grid theyve got, is so unsafely designed, it can be shut down with the flip if a single switch.

@williamchamberlain2263

Ай бұрын

No backup generator, no backup control system, no physical containment to mitigate or channel the potential explosive forces.

I dunno if you can count it as engagement, but I screamed "FUCK YOU, SEAN! FUCK YOU!!!!" at the screen repeatedly in the latter half of this video, so in my opinion KZread owes you at least $100.

Benjamin Franklin once said "When I was 14 I read Atlas Shrugged and it informed my decisions ever since.".

@007kingifrit

2 ай бұрын

would that be a bad thing? aren't those the exact formative years when we do form our lifelong values and interpretations based on what we read?

@Hasshodo

2 ай бұрын

Benny was too much of a hedonist to be into that kinda nerd shit. A 14 year old whose reading Atlas Shrugged is guaranteed maidenless

@connerblank5069

2 ай бұрын

Hey, he could have been one of those Andrew Tate types.

@Jaymaxair

2 ай бұрын

​@@007kingifritBasing your ideology on something you red when you were 14 years old is definitely unwise... if that thing was Atlas Shrugged that makes it exponentionally worse.

@007kingifrit

2 ай бұрын

@@Jaymaxair you show that you know nothing about humans, nearly everyone does this, that's why we call it your formative years that's about when you read karl marx huh? and what's wrong with atlas shrugged?

Actually, the part of "The Ghostbusters" that Shawn (with his second-grade understanding of the relationship between government and commerce) totally glosses over in his video is the part where Egon is explaining the crisis that they were quickly coming up against with the containment system and the amount of energy that was accumulating within it as a result of all the ghosts they were catching and storing. Even if the EPA inspector hadn't come in and shut down the containment system, thereby sparking the final crises of the movie, it was on its way. So, private enterprise was dealing with forces it didn't fully understand, and through its actions was creating a crises situation that was going to befall the city, one way or the other. The government was doing nothing more than what it is mandated to do by the people: To provide oversight and regulatory guidance to private enterprise that allows such commerce to take place safely, profitably, and for the benefit of the public. But Shawn, yeah, he just kinda breezes on by that, doesn't he?

@tonypalmentera7752

3 ай бұрын

was it unaffordable due to cost of regulation, tax, and elevated cost of mortgage due to tax, regulation, the state owning half the land West of the Mississippi, elevating the cost of land, rent, mortgage, housing? How much govt interference in the housing market in NYC? The idea there were no expenses beyond normal market conditions is absurd. Their inability to expand the containment was largely due to less profit than the market would provide per catch, if not for the state ripple effects from every direction distorting and deforming the otherwise free, lucrative, market. Oh, and they have corporate tort liability limits by being in business and having an LLC or incorporation...and that incentivizes harm too. It's crony captialism...as is IP (patents, etc. they might have). All encourages harm to consumers and others. All are state creations entirely.

@Not_actually_a_commie

2 ай бұрын

“The government did exactly what it was supposed to do and made the situation infinitely worse” is not the epic takedown you think it is lol

@meganegan5992

Ай бұрын

I think part of the issue is that Venkman completely failed to cooperate or explain anything. He saw a guy was from the EPA, and rather than think "Oh, yeah, we are running a nuclear power plant in our garage, that guy should probably know we're competent" he told the guy to fuck off repeatedly, hoping he'd go away. Egon tried to explain the issue, but it was way too little, too late there. Venkman was more interested in dunking on a guy who is kind of annoying than actually being responsible or diligent with the thing that would've exploded the entire city.

20:05 I'm about to ask the rudest question, something you should never ask a screenwriter: "How many screenplays have you sold?" I've done my own research and, from what I can tell, zero. His only apparent writing credits are for 3 short films, all commissioned by Koch and available on their channel: 1) Locked Out: A documentary about an entrepreneur who wanted to open a hair braiding salon but was stopped by an evil local government who demanded she have a State License. (She needed to take a class and pay a fee.) 2) No Vans Land: a documentary about an entrepreneur who wanted to open a Van transportation company but was stopped by an evil local government who demanded he have a State License. (He wanted free access to pick up people from city bus stops, instead of acting as a normal taxi service.) 3) Fear of Farming: a documentary about an entrepreneur who wanted to open an organic farm but was stopped by an evil local government who demanded she have a State License. (From what I can tell, it was a stunt. She was a law student who started a controversy to get a bill passed, then gave up the farm and became a lobbyist.)

@elvingearmasterirma7241

2 ай бұрын

... Did... Did he really call it No Vans land?? I get naming stuff is hard but did he really stick with the first idea that popped into his head?

@sars910

Ай бұрын

The level of grift you need to reach to be able to sell the same concept 3 separate times is kinda impressive.

It’s funny about most of those “Ben Franklin” quotes: 99% of anything said from any of our founding fathers were said out of the context of being pressured. Even though we have several issues concerning our constitutional rights (freedom of speech, guns, right to a speedy trial, equal weight of the law regardless of protected class), we aren’t done so under pressure. Its a slow procession of state law and judicial understanding and people are mistaking the two 🤦‍♂️

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

I have a cultural theory that the reason the US deifies the founding fathers so much is because we're too young as a country to have organically developed myths and legends. We need a unifying example of national character, so we treat the founding fathers kind of like little-g gods. That prevents us from seeing the cultural context behind what they said that you're pointing out here. Thanks for the watch! :)

@jordanboschman

6 ай бұрын

@@themorbidzooRight on the money. Search for American Civil Religion if you haven't already.

@lukiferzero

5 ай бұрын

Here’s a fun Franklin quote most people haven’t heard 😉 “All the property that is necessary to a man for the conservation of the individual and his propagation of the species is his natural right, which none can justly deprive him of; but all property superfluous to such purposes is the property of the public, who by their laws have created it, and who may therefore by other laws dispose of it, whenever the welfare of the public shall demand such disposition.”

@unidentifiedwhistlingobjec6515

Ай бұрын

​@@themorbidzooI'm late to this, but I think the US does have organically developed myths and legends... they're just mostly from black communities

"intellectually immature chicken-sh*t", this is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels

I'm always confused by this strange idea that pro-capitalist (and especially the subset of so-called ''libertarians") have which is that trade = capitalism. That the existence of a market necessarily implies the existence of capitalism. It just isn't true. The existence of a market no more requires capitalism than the existence of a floor requires dancing. It's a bizarre conclusion to make if you have even a basic understanding of economics.

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

Ugh, preach

@eyesofthecervino3366

6 ай бұрын

Do you suppose it's part of the Cold War capitalism vs communism dynamic? I notice there's this false dichotomy where people think it's all one or the other, so you can't criticize either without getting lumped in with some pretty extreme ideology.

@n0tthemessiah

6 ай бұрын

@@eyesofthecervino3366 I suppose so but only in so far as our focus is on teaching capitalism and capitalism only. Which is not to say that people aren't aware of the existence of other socio-economic systems, since they clearly of know the word 'communism' if nothing more than as an epithet, but that they were taught the other systems were "just bad" without any honest, coherent, academic analysis of them beyond their alleged inferiority. And when you couple that with only referring to capitalistic ideals in high school and undergraduate course work in economics, it's easy to see how this could give ignorant and incurious people the impression that Economics/markets=capitalism and vice versa.

@joshualavender

5 ай бұрын

@@n0tthemessiah Your last comment hits the nail on the head, I think. We have something of a religious worldview about capitalism, just like how people who grow up in evangelical Christianity (as I did) come to see all of human behavior as explained by the frame of "original sin." It's hard to put that frame down once and for all, even once you've woken up to the fact it was hoodwinking you. The whole society insists on capitalism as the economic frame, and we can't even put food on the table for our kids without buying into it on some level.

@richardvlasek2445

3 ай бұрын

the concept of cross community trade likely pre-dates organized agriculture because it turns out that the concept of going from a place to another place with a bag full of stuff that you think or know the other place doesn't have and exchanging it for something else doesn't exactly ask for many prerequisites

Unrelated: here in 2024 it's absolutely wild to hear people talk about the lockdown as current events 😂

(Edit: just came back to this video and discovered the mess that is this comments replies. Ill write an entire 60 page essay on the fall of the icelandic commonwealth next time) Fun fact: we tried this libertarian thing in the past. The icelandic commenwealth, from the ninth till the twelth century. It was a massive failiure. It ended when the absolute majority of people voted for the King of norway to come in and take over. Libertarianism in practice sucked so much that people chose to invite a foreign despot to take over and opress them rather than live one more day in a anarcho-capitalist society

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

Lol, love this 😄

@theironsheik6322

Жыл бұрын

Also, the church began collecting taxes and created internal conflict. You could say it failed, or that religion destroyed another otherwise peaceful society.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

sooooo it lasted 400 years?

@borneoorangutan

Жыл бұрын

The dark ages lasted 400 years too. Everything back then lasted a long time because most people were too miserable or dead to even begin to think about changing things.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

@@borneoorangutan apples to oranges, that's not a civilization, it's an "age" any civilization lasting 400 years is doing pretty good

Probably the best thing I've seen in ages. You gave me reason to smile, laugh and generally feel good. I'm in no doubt that this took a lot of work, and still you managed to make it look spontaneous, effortless and feel like a conversation. You closing point about art resonates with me so well, and I thank you for that. I've no idea about films really, neither have I seen that bloke or his videos - yet this was enjoyable to watch and learn from.

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna ride the high of this comment for at least a week. Thanks so much for the kind words and for watching! ❤

@petrosz1957

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo Thanks for the nice reply. If you're interested in how a new viewer came to your channel - then it was from your commentary on The Thing. The link was due to seeing an Adam Savage video about his prop replica from the film - the spider head thing. However, that isn't a film I've seen, (nor most of the others in your listing if I'm honest). That doesn't matter though because it's the essay and the delivery that make them interesting and entertaining. You said that these essays would get a very limited reading in academic circles, and it's great that you're bringing the practice to a wider audience. I look forward to seeing more.

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@petrosz1957 ah thanks-- that is good to know, I'm glad the algorithm is steering it toward that kind of audience in particular. Thanks for sticking around!!

@davidrogers8030

2 ай бұрын

Unsure why this was randomly proffered to me now but anyway, ditto original posting.

"Theory-induced blindness" just sounds like confirmation bias

Why yes Sean, the East India Trading Company WAS a force for good and definitely did not lead to the colonization of an entire subcontinent that only ended in my grandfathers lifetime, ie. NOT VERY LONG AGO! Edit: I looked up at my screen at the exact time the shot of your dog appeared and instinctively cooed doggie, and so when their tail started wagging it was as if they had heard me, it absolutely made my day ❤

"Skipping leg day infringes upon my civil liberties." - Benjamin Franklin, probably

*Desperately trying and failing to not fangirl into oblivion* This was something else. I'm blown away. I think you have an incredible skill at balancing the 'facts' and 'feelings', so many other, your subject and myself included, veer way too hard one way or the other. Between this and the Spider-Gwen video, it's just so refreshing for someone to say that fictional things don't exist and the minutia of their specifics doesn't matter and cannot (and probably shouldn't be answered), while the pure enjoyment and/ or critique of art is equally as important as 'fictional facts' aren't. I can definitely nerd out about something like Warhammer 40K lore, but the implications of a satire of the British Empire and Thatcher becoming increasingly jingoistic and sincere in its presentation and stories, both influenced by and influencing its audience is far more interesting than arguing that girls can't be Space Marines because the codex days so - Astartes are all trans and the black carapace is a fancy boob job!). Anyways, you deserve your flowers and this guy needs a shitty yellow and black flag. Watching him made me crying into my red and black one lol. I'll leave you with this quote from Benjamin Franklin that one of your last points and quote instantly made me think of: "The philosophy of anarchism is included in the word “Liberty,” yet it is comprehensive enough to include all things else that are conducive to progress. No barriers whatever to human progression, to thought, or investigation are placed by anarchism; nothing is considered so true or so certain, that future discoveries may not prove it false; therefore, it has but one infallible, unchangeable motto, “Freedom”: Freedom to discover any truth, freedom to develop, to live naturally and fully. Other schools of thought are composed of crystallized ideas-principles that are caught and impaled between the planks of long platforms, and considered too sacred to be disturbed by a close investigation. In all other “issues” there is always a limit; some imaginary boundary line beyond which the searching mind dare not penetrate, lest some pet idea melt into a myth. But anarchism is the usher of science-the master of ceremonies to all forms of truth. It would remove all barriers between the human being and natural development. From the natural resources of the Earth, all artificial restrictions, that the body might be nurtured, and from universal truth, all bars of prejudice and superstition, that the mind may develop symmetrically." - Lucy Parsons

@themorbidzoo

7 ай бұрын

Gaah thank you! That quote is beautiful 😭

I still remember during SPI we were talking about people not taking expertise seriously due to the American “oh I can learn/pick that up/do that as effectively.” Without any qualifications to do so... and Sean Malone encompasses this fully. 10/10 video

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

Lol exaaaaactly. Dunning-Kruger bby

@jojomojo712

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo looking forward to forcing my friends to view your block buster magnum opus Edward Cullen video, I know that will be an hour of IMMACULATE arguments

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jojomojo712 Haha oh god you wouldn't dare

@jojomojo712

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo i made several watch the prawn one, I have to lure them in with the Thing video first but I’ll get them to do it.

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jojomojo712 Lol you're the best

I’m a leftist but Ghostbusters does have a lot of inherent libertarian politics written into the dialogue. That’s a pretty surface level reading.

@cappeca

6 ай бұрын

And the irony is that its whole premise really does not exist.

@RogueAstro85

6 ай бұрын

It's also a comedy, it's supposed to be funny that they kind of know what they're doing and that the EPA is in the wrong. It's supposed to be funny that they discover ghosts are real and Venkman's first thought is how they're going to make a fortune from franchising. I don't think the libertarian stuff was supposed to be serious

@tonoornottono

6 ай бұрын

@@RogueAstro85yeah it seems like the MOST surface reading level is: AGHHHHH!!!!! GHOSTS! DEMONS! GODS FROM ANOTHER WORLD!!!! OH GOD! better call those guys in jumpsuits 😏 they got a 1-800 number 😏

@Anon26535

6 ай бұрын

I feel like the entire point of the IDW comic series, especially the Ghost Smashers arc, was turning around and pissing all over the first movie's libertarian message. Walter Peck gets put in charge of a new government agency regulating companies that deal with the paranormal and while he and the Ghostbusters still don't get along, he's portrayed way more sympathetically. Instead of a smarmy, bureaucratic obstructionist he's become a hard-nosed disciplinarian who recognizes the value of the service the Ghostbusters provide and is determined to make damn sure they provide it properly, with minimal collateral damage.

@btarczy5067

6 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly the government was pretty reasonable in being suspicious of the Ghostbusters. Their efforts to shut down the business were comical and exaggerated but rooted in not believing in ghosts. Making the discovery that ghosts are real and turning that into a business to have the monopoly on dealing with the consequences is also not beneficial to society by any stretch so even there the message isn't completely on board with libertarianism. It has been a while since I watched it so all my points may be wrong, this is just from the bits and pieces I think happened in the movie.

Yeesh I love this longform content for you. You're stylistically similar to a lot of other video essayists I love but you provide different angles to your critique that elevate your content that much further. I'm sure these take a long time but I'd definitely be interested in more deep dives like this from you in the future

@themorbidzoo

2 жыл бұрын

Omg you're the best. Thanks! Working on another pretty longform one now

@blinkfilms1

2 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo awesome! I'm looking forward to it 😊

8:00 if i remember right the ghostbusters fought against regulation of their ghost catching weapons that could potentially destroy reality if handeled wrong. and then they do exactly this without knowing for sure if they would destroy the world. maybe over the top comedies are not a good example for making a point about economics?

"The difference is that the Austrian school makes the individual the key unit of decision making..." Sean, that's basically all of economics these days. That's not a difference. - Source: Be me, be economist. Cheers this video is brilliant! Thanks for pointing out education-propaganda and windbaggery!

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

Lol all economists are dirty collectivists except Austrians

"Short lived series with the Vsauce 2 guy" This is the kind of commentary I became a subscriber for.

@KaosNoKamisama

Жыл бұрын

I have to say... I'm baffled that hardly anyone online even mentions Lieber having that weird association with libertarian hacks. It's just... there, I guess?

I am very much not finished this, but the whole Wakanda thing is funny. It's like the Tories in the UK post-Brexit saying they want to be more like Singapore, and saying that's done through free trade. In actual fact Singapore's economy is VERY protectionist, planned, top-down and their government has very strict control over what goes on in the country. That has made them very rich.

@coolmen-dn9jd

29 күн бұрын

Please fact check yourself

In Australia we have a concept called 'The Pub Test' - a standard for judging policies based on whether the average pub-goer would understand and approve of them. If we were to put Sean to a similar test, like "The Party Test" where the standard is whether a theory is likely to sour the mood at a social gathering, Sean would be asked to leave and receive no further invitation to any future events.

Let's give some credit to Marxism, as you're supposed to apply historic materialism to do a Marxism right.

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

True, it's a very good ideal for studying economics! But by itself, historical materialism doesn't mean much besides being a methodological approach-- society is the result of conditions, not ideals. A proper Austrian would say the exact same thing. Sean is a rube who doesn't know what he's talking about, but I guarantee you he wouldn't disagree with that statement either. The counterpoint from an Austrian perspective would be "the conditions of the modern worker are being artificially constrained by government intervention," which is just as unfalsifiable as "the conditions of the modern worker are artificially constrained by capitalism." I happen to suspect that the conditions of the worker are absolutely constrained by capitalism, but unless I can incontrovertibly prove why, my personal beliefs are really not very actionable, and *certainly* not relevant to economics as a field. This is the root of all the circular arguments between communists and capitalists.

@Lambda_Ovine

10 ай бұрын

@@themorbidzoo very VERY late response but, I agree with the thesis of what you say, yeah. For what is worth, I consider myself a socialist and my perspective is very much informed in Marxism, but I 100% agree that Marxism, or in this case specifically historical materialism, is a method of analysis, and I think that once communists start to treat it like a natural science then they have lost the plot entirely, within Marxism itself even. I am willing to admit that I'm far more partial to a Marxist perspective because I personally have a bias towards the working class (my class, go figure). To the dismay of economists around the world that are bitter about the fact that they can't turn economics into a hard science like physics, economics is a social science, there's perspectives, methods and frameworks that help us make sense of the impossibly complex dynamics society but at some point biases need to take place. Admittedly, I'm not very familiar with Austrian economics, but there are other stuff from Marxism to like, less in the area of economics and more in the area of sociology, like the conflict theory or idea of the structure and super structure I don't know if I agree with your conclusion, however. That our believes are not really very actionable, at least not in this case, because as you said, is unfalsifiable, we have hit and axiom I think. To prove incontrovertibly if the material conditions of the working class are constrained by capitalism or not is another question in disguise I think: what type of economic system we ought to build, one for the businesses and those who own them (in which case, is already built and the question is do we keep it?) or one for the working class? I'm not convinced we can build one where both interests can be upheld at the same time long term globally, we of course won't be able to find that answer as an absolute fact like we wold if it were a matter of smashing subatomic particles together, none the less, we need to build a society

@qwill60

7 ай бұрын

@@themorbidzoo Also A Very Late Response, but the alligence to falsifiability, that most modern economic thought is based in, as a means to seperate the valid and the invalid or as you say the actionable and the inactionable isn't justifiable. Falsifiabilty conceptually is a means to an end, it's a way of papering over the deeper ideological inconsistencies of Capitalism without having to take a step back and really come to terms with the greater idealistic and material implications of economics as a disciple. Falsifiability allows for a moment to moment pragmatic decision making as generalized economic hueristics fail to account for observed behavior, but is by definition unable to see the forest for the trees. It is unable to as Kuhn put shift the paradigm. To give an example supply and demand as a heuristic works generally but breaks down often when examing a commodity that is required to maintain life if not direct as in the curves no longer match, but practically as food prices become untenably expensive. Falsifiabilty helps with this by providing a frame to build up and around these issues, but falsifiability will never give you the indication that supply and demand applied to commodity is just not a very good heuristic. This inability to creatively its way out of the paper bag is I think serverly overlooked, as bucking falsifiability is akin to bucking the scientific method in economic circles, as far as I am aware ( like Sean I'm not a classically trained economist, just a lowely critical theorist :). I think the parallels that you are drawing in the video and comment between Austrian school and marxist/ Frankfurt school as being unfalsifiable therefore inactionable is jumping the gun so to speak. This dichotomy you are drawing is one based in the idea that Austrian school is on the same ideological scope is reductive even if on the surface they seem equitable, as it equates a specific subset of applicable economic ideals applicable within an economic framework with a school of thought that offers an alternative to the power dynamics and forces present in the former. At some point your pragmatism is going to run up against a systematic problem of having to be based on unfalsifiable ideals that you will be forced to swallow as axiomatic, unless you're a post-structuralist....maybe...probably not. I'll stop here as a youtube comment isn't this serious and should stop taking it as such. P.S. I Just found your channel and I really enjoy it, sorry to leave a sorta schizo comment that is critical on a two year old video, but this point about falsifiability is just one of my bugbears from undergrad that I get irrationally heated about.

@fellinuxvi3541

Ай бұрын

​@@themorbidzooThis is such an eloquent and intelligent breakdown of the argument from all sides, I feel it should be framed somewhere instead of just hanging around in a comment.

Excellent video, I really appreciate the sincerity that you argued with. I'm really tired of super cynical criticism that assumes the worst in everything they argue and so your channel as always is a refreshing breath of fresh air please don't stop

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! My thought is that these people's ideas are bad enough on their own, they really don't need any hyperbole

If I end up liking too many of this channel’s videos in the span of the next week or so I apologize I’m in a binge watching kick.

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

How very dare you give me traffic >:I

I dont wanna become a cliche and just say something nice on every video but dunking on libertarians is genuinely my favorite passtime to such an extent i focused my college career on it so you force my hand This is just awesome, amazing work!

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

You are such a dear. Like a youtube muse. Now I have to know, what did you do in college specifically?

@shmuelhoit7118

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo unfortunately i am in covid college right now... but horror movies are my way out of feeling that slow creeping crawl of dread, the bomb above our heads of ecological collapse and the knowledge that anything that I do right now will do nothing to halt that encroaching judgement day... which is why I like your channel! Oh right my college. I am studying how political dissemination and radicalization occurs through the internet. And a lot of that involves the impact of channels like FEE, Steven Crowder and even PewDiePie on a person's ideology and where those changes take them. Which means it is just so cathartic to watch people just dunk on them for 44 minutes straight. The topic is so esoteric that I never get the opportunity to like just vent about how much I hate the channels without academic language so this type of video is my muse!!

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@shmuelhoit7118 Oh man, we're like the same person. I too have sunk so far into my dread that all I can do is try to laugh at the circus, and I too study internet ideology! Now is the time to discuss it, it's the forst time in history that the majority of people are able to communicate with thousands outside their immediate area, and we 1000% have not considered the consequences of that yet. At least it's good for content mining on my end, I'm going to talk about these things more, for sure. I'm really glad you're here for it!

@shmuelhoit7118

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo yea so now you probably get why when you were like "hey its politics time I'm talking about politics outside of attack on titan now and there will be no survivors" this became my favorite channel

@Simonds007

8 ай бұрын

If you're "dunking" on libertarians, I imagine you take a lot of Ls.

I just found this channel today and it's so good. These essays are so well written and presented, I've watched like 8 of these videos over the past four hours.

I enjoy your videos and intellectual commentary on subjects that hit home for me personally! I had studied economics at a conservative university that touted Austrian school libertarianism and proudly called myself one a few years ago. I didn’t wind down that ideology until I worked in the corporate world and developed a chronic illness that made hospital visits mandatory. Once I started seeing how the “free” corporate market really worked in medical care and the ballooning costs I paid compared to other socialized countries, did I realize that true libertarianism could only stay in academia. I am by no means a communist or radical, but the very basis of free market theory centers around people being rational, and the more i read on economics, poverty studies, and social psychology, the more I became less of a person that believed everyone always made rational decisions for their benefit not could they in times of starving or desperation. And billionaires themselves gamed the system through cronyism, which cannot be stopped by an all-knowing free market, and that being poor wasn’t always just a personal choice.

That first minute was giving me such early Contrapoints vibes. Just needs a prayer to the Dark Mother.

36:55 You basically stated here _exactly_ why I identify as a general leftist, and nothing more specific than that. I'm not an anarchist, I'm not a ML, I'm not a Maoist, I wouldn't even say I'm DemSoc. All I know is I'm somewhere left of SocDem. I don't find subscribing to a particular lane all that useful. We need to be able to adapt and always consider what's best for people both now and down the line, and what that looks like is always going to change. If you get rigid in your thinking then that hammer/nail analogy starts applying--you bend society to fit your solution instead of bending your solution to account for society.

@And3ru

Ай бұрын

Same with me. In truth I wouldn’t even ascribe myself a label. I guess my position is just “whatever leads to the best material outcomes for the most amount of people” which seems to be somewhere around social democracy.

your channel is dangerously underrated

@themorbidzoo

7 ай бұрын

Ha thanks, someday I hope someone will call me overrated, then I’ll know I’ve made it 😁

I didn't realize that when Rexy was eating the rich she was doing so in the name of the working class, slay queen!

"ralph doesnt feel like a bad guy bc he never was one" ???? whfkejdkdj?????? im dying he delivers the line like it's some niche fan theory and not the premise of the movie im so lost

It was a special kind of fascinating when you flowed seamlessly into a poetic story and description of an ineffible malaise from a recognition that's just out of reach, in a 45 minute video about a completely different topic. To add another layer to it, I realized that I had found this video two years ago and was then captivated by the same passage. Maybe the almost-but-not-quite memory of it is what's been bugging me this whole time...

@eloryosnak4100

24 күн бұрын

Okay so like i agree fully but also *why is nobody else talking about this* That monologue was phenomenal, and theres *no* reference to it in the comments wtf!?

This has been in my Watch Later for like a month, but in that time, I saw a bunch of your more recent videos, all of which were pretty tonally different from this one. I love your content and the format in which you present your insights, but this video is probably my favorite you've done. Cheers!

R.I.P. Sean

This video reminded me of how incredibly stupid and insufferable I was as a 20 something. Libertarians are the ultimate cringe.

"because that it is BORING AT PARTIES!" took the words out of my mouth.. brain. whatever. nailed it. thank you.

Oh no, not the Austrian school. They are an embarrassment to economics. Libertarians, please drop these people.

@wyguy1212

8 ай бұрын

Libertarians should drop their iPhones first and never get them fixed cause they aren’t smart enough to be on the internet

@jessewoellhof6843

7 ай бұрын

Ugh I was gonna have fun with this but remembering the Austrian school really dulls the enthusiasm

@GumMagnum

6 ай бұрын

Lmfao

@redmage5251

6 ай бұрын

the second worst thing to come out of austria

I always thought it was hilarious that he used literal dinosaur ancapistan as a critique of socialism.

Wait, this is a real, subsidized foundation? I thought it was just the name of his channel… 😒 Edit: Damn, they're even on Wiki. "…founded in 1946, is considered the oldest free-market think tank in the United States." 🤷‍♂

@themorbidzoo

7 ай бұрын

Yup, they suck

@DecidedlyNinja

7 ай бұрын

There are a lot of these. Capitalists spend a lot of money on people who tell workers life will be better for workers if capitalists are allowed to do whatever they want.

Trade and commerce are the opposite of violence Yeah, sure. That's why it's been only a couple hundred years since the 'trading' ships stopped pirating others on their way to a port. Cities' walls and guards were (and still are, pretty much) the only thing that kept 'fair traders' from just taking whatever they wished and leave. And even that wasn't a guarantee, as the 'merchants' could bring a few dozens more ships to take the city for the sake of marauding and control.

When I first found saw your stuff in my recommended, I expected some cheesy horror channel based on the name. Can't say how glad I am that I was wrong. Great video. You have a fantastic presentation style! I've enjoyed all of your content so far.

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

We here at The Morbid Zoo consider all monstrosities both real and imagined to be equally cheese. Thanks for watching 😁

INSANE you haven't blown up yet I am loving ur content

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much 😊 I just need to upload more, I think

The subtle socialism of Jurassic Park, I mean it is a criticism of free market venture capitalism

the nightvale mug

38:50 : "I'm strong because I don't tolerate things I don't like." You mean like exercising, working, and brushing your teeth?

Amazing. I was waiting for you to drop that mic with a, "How do you like them apples?!"

I just binged several of your videos, great content. I wish I would’ve found it earlier.

You're so delightfully drunk in this video.

My favorite thing about libertarians is how they will almost never acknowledge all the ways corporations and accumulations of Capital are functionally identical to states and are nearly equally capable of tyranny.

Late to this party, but I find it so hilarious/frustrating that people miss the toddler level symbolism in Jurassic Park. I don't know how much more simply you can put "We will be destroyed by the monsters we create when we turn to science for reckless profiteering".

"Hyper-unionization" might be the funniest word ever created.

I love the way you say "Sean" like it's a bad word, it made this video even more fun to watch. 10/10.

Also, your videos on films are so succinct and to the point and thankfully devoid of the lofi crap most of these channels use. It's becoming a joke how manufactured most of these video essays feel. Keep up the good work, this channel has great content!

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! Ha, it's gotten to a point where I'll be picking music and think "this is nice" and then "no wait, too lo-fi." There aren't that many video essay cliches but boy is that one of them and boy does Sean love it

@griffin09

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorbidzoo I just imagine them sitting in a room full of Kubrick posters, wearing a sleeveless tank top and listening to a poorly mixed dubstep cover of Louis Armstrong they're going to use for the video and saying to themselves "this will totally get me laid".

@themorbidzoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@griffin09 😂

This was a brilliant rebuttal! I love your explanation of art as a party - I never would've thought of it that way, and now I'll probably never stop thinking of it that way. Libertarians commonly live inside the "faith" of their ideology, it seems. For instance, they glorify private contracts as perfect legal mechanisms which replace the very need for any goverment, but just put to them the very simple question of how on earth any contract can possibly be enforced without a government granted a monopoly on the legal use of force - and watch their heads explode. They can't wrap their minds around the question. As far as they can see, "it'll just sort itself out." On the one hand, they won't admit a truly libertarian society, sans government, would just devolve into "might makes right," because then their ideology looks barbaric. On the other hand, they can't explain what the reasonable, viable alternative is supposed to be without resorting to a model that looks exactly like ... drum roll ... a government granted a monopoly on the legal use of force. Their cognitive dissonance is entertaining, as long as you don't let yourself think about the fact that Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" is former House Speaker Paul Ryan's favorite book and that clown got to make decisions about who could get welfare.

18:35 "JOHN" The exasperation in your voice is my favorite thing ever gee freaking whiz

I felt that "Do you!?!?" in my soul! @16:15. We said it in unison ✌🏾✌🏾🥳🥳 This is the first vid I've seen from your channel. Good job algorithm, I'm subbing.

Are you... under the impression that Marx didn't use math in his economic work?

@007kingifrit

7 ай бұрын

well he didn't use it well if he did because it sure didn't turn out to be true, he also did his work before the social sciences existed making all his work outdated

@QuintessentialQs

7 ай бұрын

​@@007kingifrit I don't think there is a "marxist" today would would argue that his work isn't outdated. Just as any neoclassical or "orthodox" economist today knows that Smith and Ricardo are outdated. However, there are numerous marxian principles which do, indeed, bear out quite clearly in capitalist economies. Like the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. Or the tendency toward monopoly that erodes the "middle class" of small business. Furthermore, he predicted globalization, and creation of artificial demand, both of which were well outside the scope of what previous economists like Smith or Ricardo had imagined. I'm not even strictly a "marxist" of any stripe, but I have read him. And some of his ideas, like commodity fetishization, or the role of financial instruments (which he called "fictitious capital") in boom-bust cycles, have become more or less universal in all serious schools of economics. And I think there are later marxian economists like Paul Cockshott, Yanis Varoufakis, Intan Suwandi, Jason Hickle, or Anwar Shaikh who have contributed to the field. And certainly the institutionalist school (such as Ha Joon Chang) wouldn't exist without marxian economics.

@007kingifrit

7 ай бұрын

@@QuintessentialQs there is no tendency towrads monopoly, only big government seems to create monopoly by making it hard for newcomers to compete. and the middle class is shrinking becsause the upper class is larger than ever, people aren't getting poorer i think we are past the age of globalization and more importantly the big ideas of marx that workers should own businesses is totally nonsense, they aren't qualified, they take no risk, and they don't mesh with human nature and ego

@elvingearmasterirma7241

2 ай бұрын

​@@007kingifrit Congrats! Your comment is so... Full of you showing a lack of ability to grasp reality, showing you are ignoring what is happening right now and ignoring years, generations of evidence, that I experienced the human version of a blue screen. Your head must be a fascinating place

Stumbled on your video by accident. I feel less sad after watching it. It's nice.

Great video. Insightful, well argued and funny. On the other hand I’m glad I’ve been lucky enough to avoid his channel. His voice has real “Pop Culture Detective” energy which I find gratingly condescending.

MZ, you are insanely eloquent. It is an utter pleasure to consume your videos. I wish there were more of them!

Benny Franklin said Those who don't have the same birthday as me but claim they do to sell products deserve neither a birthday nor the sale

In several small businesses I helped run we would never ask "How can we create value for the customer?" LOL it sounds childishly earnest. We might ask "WHAT DO WE SAY when the customer asks how we create value for them?", or how do we get them to think we create value. (even though a lot of times the answer was to actually provide more value) "Business" (as in "doing business") is almost entirely about using information, financial, or power asymmetries to get extra value. Advertising is entirely about that, and is a drain on society (assuming all that artistic genius still gets expressed in some form). I think of that as close to a definition, because when you are simply about creating value, you are not "doing business", you are just working. Everything else you do that's not that, ends up being some form of asymmetry exploitation. "Business" is the part of work/productive life that effectively makes capitalism feel different for the average worker, and it's just the result of the legal system regulating business and private property (not to mention the tax system) encourages ownership of all business by a ever-concentrating group of megawealthy. There's nothing more "natural" or "free" about our system. Rather, it was designed, usually explicitly, to try and balance competing forces at different time periods, or reflect the desires of a newly dominant class or group.

@themorbidzoo

Ай бұрын

💯

This is one of my favourite videos on KZread. Thanks

Thank you for this video! Made my week!

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

Sean having a like $1,400 tool cabinet that judging by the multiple nerf guns hanging on the side is FOR nerf guns, tells me everything I need to know about him lol

"Those who sacrifise there ferdom for liberty desrve needer" Ban Franklyne

@themorbidzoo

Жыл бұрын

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LOL, this is my2nd video of yours... TY again for your vids. Clearly you've had a few drinks... as have I. I'm glad I've found your channel. I wish I had met you IRL. I bet we'd became friends. Hopefully you will continue to post awesome videos for the foreseeable future. TY, again, for your videos. LOL, just passed the hallway mark. Didn't know you reassessed things once you got sober. I've not sobered up, but find 0 issues with your characterization with Shawn's (Sean's, not sure his particular spelling) fallacies Edit 1: not sober.

That Johnny Harris-esque, video essayist, pouty tone Sean uses makes my skin crawl.

I knew this was going to be a good video when it opened on the Aldi wine.

Came for The Thing Video, stayed for this.

Bisexual wine lighting

10/10, awesome video. The absurdity of this guy is appreciated to know end.

23:06 for example. I recently had to take a macroeconomics course, a topic I never had interest in. Now I have a better understanding of the world we live in! And now I’m watching videos like this!! And now I want to take microeconomics! I never thought I’d like econ cause it’s math! YET HERE I AM

Yes. And yes, 'Chef' is a truly dreadful movie, except it's less a movie than an ad for Twitter.

I agree with one of your central arguments about films not being 1:1 replica of reality. It reminded me of Bordwell who wrote about various criteria when judging the film - among them two which are common among lay people watching films just for fun, without any deeper analysis: moral criteria and realistic criteria. I think this guy is stuck with these when he's doing his analysis - it's like watching historian talking very negatively about lord of the rings or even some good historical pic because it's nor "realistic". This guy is also adding his moral criteria of free-market utopia propaganda and and its promises of individual freedom and prosperity. And he just don't see things like complexity of film or innovation, coherence etc. - actually analysing it as an art form, you know, the thing it is meant to be.

It's wild how much of a time capsule this video is and it's only 3 years old!

34:20 this part is a reference to Welcome To Night Vale, right? Love it but without the mug I would have probably missed it.

@themorbidzoo

6 ай бұрын

It’s not but my deepest creative wish is to write for them so in the interest of manifestation I’ll say yes ha

I know this is off topic but that lip color is just awesome! I wanted something like that for myseld

Socialism in Jurassic Park is so subtle it's Capitalism

That guy is truly terrible at trying to make thought provoking content but thinks he's killing it. Amazing

Old video, but I do have to point out that even though Daniel Kahneman did win a nobel price in economics, he isn't an economist as you claimed at 34:40, but a psychologist.

@themorbidzoo

3 ай бұрын

Man, I know he says that, but I feel like when you win the Nobel prize in Econ you’re an economist whether you like it or not lol

K I've left several comments now but now, at minute 27, I will say ur my new favorite thank you so much

10:00 That's funny, I listened to the Jurassic Park audiobook the other day and Crichton makes just the most amazingly boneheaded "deep thoughts" thesis statement by a dying Ian Malcom who somehow takes Hammond (whose only characterization has been to just be a rich asshole) and makes him the fucking posterboy for Environmentalism and tells us it is exactly the same arrogance to believe that Environmentalism will "save the world" because ACTUALLY bacteria and stuff will survive and we're fools to think we could "End the World". And I'm looking at the plot of the book and I'm like, 'How the fuck do you even figure?' The author is well and truly dead.

The last 3 minutes were great!

Damn, a Night Vale mug! I love Night Vale.

33:25 - 34:38 I'm struggling to put into words how much I love... I don't know, your narrative style? This comment is getting dumber the more I think about it so I just want to say, hey, thanks for the great content!

Sometimes your style is giving Contrapoints vibes. I already liked your channel (that I've just discoverded like 2 weeks ago), but this kinship puts it at an even higher level. You're doing good.

and i can't say this with enough emphasis but.... "i'm with captain rogers, are you?" - LMAO corny and shallow, while thinking himself quite poignant and solemn in tone - just moronically self-serious. the cringe is so subtle it's almost sublime with this guy haha