The question is whether A.I. can bill the patients and their insurance providers better than humans.

@optimusprime5199

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe they will. 😂😂😂

@HeavyK.

4 жыл бұрын

"No" reports the computer at the insurance company.

@jusletursoulglobaby

4 жыл бұрын

honestly, I see this as something that reduces the cost of certain services so maybe.... just maybe that bill doesnt make u pimp out ur family to settle up

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

Not if healthcare is free to all. Hopefully my country will continue to provide this and yours will provide it soon. It's sad that anyone lives in a country without free healthcare.

@joyjoyoo

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

Think of it as the first diagnosis to narrow down the possible issues so an actual doctor can focus on those.

@wesleyhempoli5548

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, captain obvious, for explaining what the title already suggested.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

Its actually more likely to be useful to prevent undereading and satisfaction of search type errors, in the short term at least. Also using AI to do things like bone subtraction to highlight otherwise easily missed masses.

@derekdeadlifts2986

4 жыл бұрын

@@wesleyhempoli5548 He did that to be funny Wesley Snipes.

@k.kchoudhary1876

2 жыл бұрын

plz, Sir humble request to give me information about AI in medicine. How can I apply? what is the necessary subject. plz, Sir. humble request I am small brother you're... plz sir help me.

@michaelmjack3336

Жыл бұрын

1:09 Underexposed CXR which is NOT CLEAR! AI has missed a left apical spiculated mass, AP window consolidation and right paratracheal widening. Hyperinflated lungs suggestive of COPD with basal oligaemia which could represent underexposure, emphysema and/or bullous disease. In summary this could all be CANCER! I hope they got a real radiologist to look again at the CXR!

Damn imagine multiple years of medical school just to get replace by a robot

@mollerbt

4 жыл бұрын

Won't happen so no need to imagine it.

@w1z4rd9

4 жыл бұрын

mollerbt haha dream. anything is possible even it breaks logic

@mollerbt

4 жыл бұрын

@@w1z4rd9 that's why we use common sense as well. AI can enhance and improve medical care, but it can't replace doctors. Just a fact of common sense and simple logic.

@w1z4rd9

4 жыл бұрын

mollerbt why can't it replace doctors ? your reply doesn't make sense against my comment

@mollerbt

4 жыл бұрын

@@w1z4rd9 if my reply doesn't make sense to you then it's because your not thinking. AI requires computers. Computers require electricity. So what, we are going to lessen our medical perssonnel in favor of AI which can easily be knocked down with a loss of electricity? That's a great weak point for attack. But let's ignore that. Are we going to claim that proper medical care is completely devoid of logic and reasoning? Back to AI. Who will oversee the AI to ensure it doesn't interpret something wrong considering it lacks reasoning? How about the possibility of hacking? A virus? Corrupted code? AI learns by what has already been accomplished. Can AI further progress in medical knowledge of which it has no exposure to? Without the human element, can AI adapt to a previously unknown factor? Can AI properly instruct and care for the needs of patients? The human element is literally a core element of all areas of medical care. There is no human element with a computer. A properly trained radiologist is usually needed to properly position a patient for optimal results. What of a scared child? How would an AI handle that? There are so many other factors that ensure the job security of radiologists. AI can be more accurate with greater consistency sure. But that's about it. The best use of AI is for just that purpose. Not to replace, but to enhance the quality of care given by a radiologist. I didn't even get into the communication and cooperative efforts required of radiologists with other members of the medical care team. Being able to explain things to both patient and medical care team members to ensure the best possible care for the patient and to ensure necessary understanding by the patient

Yang tried to tell us

@brandont5995

4 жыл бұрын

Just a matter of time

@james.a.h.

4 жыл бұрын

After he dropped out I stopped following the election.

@angelmonroy3012

4 жыл бұрын

James H ...but its still your future isnt it

@derekdeadlifts2986

4 жыл бұрын

I don't even vote so it doesn't matter to me.

@koilamaoh4238

4 жыл бұрын

The likely hood of effecting many jobs, ehhh not really. Won't be happening in our life time or next generation. Still will take some time. Hopefully we won't doom ourselves by then with nukes or natural disasters. Once capitalism starts peaking/modernizing world wide, then we would have to worry cause no one will want to work cheap; thus a new form of socialism will emerge.

I know something bigger than A.I. success rates: Physician's egos.

@SirEnzo371

4 жыл бұрын

Found the anti-vaxxer.

@Bilal-rp4mk

4 жыл бұрын

How selfish of these radiologists, wanting a job over saving more lives. Go find something else to do

@KamiSilver

4 жыл бұрын

@@SirEnzo371 huh? Pro vaccines here.

@tngchinghwa

4 жыл бұрын

@@SirEnzo371 dafuq you talking?

@Speaks4itself

4 жыл бұрын

@Andres Leon eye doctors are super Dumb, I've spent so much on glasses and I still can't see clearly.

I never would have guessed that a COMPUTER would be more accurate at diagnosing ailments based on a CHECKLIST than a HUMAN would be. Lieutenant Commander Data, what do you think???

@charlesbrisebois2435

4 жыл бұрын

Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports a computer is better at keeping your car going then per say a carburetor that has to be tuned for climate height and other factors, the computer does it all in the fraction of a second by using oxygen sensors and mass air flow sensors

@vonbrendt01

4 жыл бұрын

Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports are you being sarcastic? Because this is the future of free health care. No longer will we have to pay millions upon millions per year for doctors salaries. Just the one time price of the tech.

@whatdudeokman6481

4 жыл бұрын

Dark Craft obviously he is being sarcastic, you must not know who Lieutenant Commander Data is.

@BazanIsDead

4 жыл бұрын

Dark Craft softwares will have license

@vonbrendt01

4 жыл бұрын

whatdudeokman from Star Trek? I was young but I remember.

3:19 damn doctor i don't need AI to examine those legs

4:01 Survey results from Canada, 4:16 numbers from US.

The key word here is not replacement. It’s complementary. Radiologists are not limited to reading Xrays, although it’s one of their primary tasks.

No match for Dr Gregory House

@HiAdrian

4 жыл бұрын

*A.I.:* I'm 92% confident it's Lupus *House:* …

Imagine going to school for 10 years and forcing yourself to learn everything then being replaced by a robot.

@twentyeighthunnid

4 жыл бұрын

Are you saying that Doctors are there just to read x-rays? Here's one for you: Imagine the medecine field stagnating forever.. u___u Forwards, fools... forwards.

@ItsShaylaBayla

4 жыл бұрын

ssap io - yeah .... that’s what you read, not what the comment actually says lol.

@Dantick09

4 жыл бұрын

It is called evolve and get better at your job or get out

@Nick-wp7md

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dantick09 humans learn much slower than robots. Not saying AI aren't better but it seems a bit counter productive for America to put so much encouragement toward going to college, only to turn to AI in the end. It's still a new field though so I'm optimistic that people will find ways to work around it.

@SirEnzo371

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dantick09 The AI recognized pneumonia at a 2% better rate.....and that's PNEUMONIA. A radiologist does more than that and it requires physicals at times like with cancers.

Actually, I also work on cutting-edge supervised machine learning algorithms to help oncologists detect cancer. The models actually really do no worse than the doctors most of the time and do better than the doctors about 3% of the time and catch missed opportunities for doctors to diagnose earlier about 1% of the time. Needless to say, this is definitely different than deep learning without respect for job replacement, but it definitely provides more opportunity for patients to get the best care earlier. Now, I don’t know her personally but working with doctors like Dr. Lehman has always been a pleasure.

Normal doctor x-ray test : $500 AI doctor x-ray test : $450

@janekfan666

4 жыл бұрын

American* doctor: $500 Normal doctor: $0

@rdrgtreer

4 жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting there is something wrong with capitalism?

@blaze1206

4 жыл бұрын

@@janekfan666 ha ha ha, it's funny because in EU any public department of health Care is free instead of the US

@joshitheyoshi2533

4 жыл бұрын

@@blaze1206 It's not free. It's called taxes and lower incomes across the board.

@blaze1206

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshitheyoshi2533 but if broke my arm and need surgery, I'll not have to pay the doctor or do I?

The insurance companies already use this tech to decide who gets treatment and who gets to die.

@trentmorrison6074

4 жыл бұрын

And more is coming our way. Soon well be heading to mexico for more then just illegal plastic surgerys, soon actuall health care will kick in.

I'm pretty sure AI reading radiology report will end like like 12 Lead ECG interpretation. The machine use algorithms to make a suggest diagnosis, but ultimately the clinician will need to make a decision. I don't think ai will replace radiologist, it will change their job for sure kinda like how progress of medicine has change how we do things.

I think this AI, for now at least, is beneficial for both the people working in the field and the patient. I doubt anyone for quite a long time will be comfortable taking the human completely out of the loop. For instance, it would be beneficial for all parties If the radiologist used the AI to double check their findings. Then it is basically like having two qualified radiologists look over your findings rather than one.

AI will be used as a tool by radiologists and will not replace them.

@zxdp747

4 жыл бұрын

What tool? Pressing that "scan" button? Anybody can do that. All the works is done by the AI.

@jasonl3736

4 жыл бұрын

Siddharth Raj radiologists will be like cashiers wearing lab coats

@KaranSingh-or7yy

4 жыл бұрын

💯% right Siddharth Raj

@carnage3343

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonl3736 😅 No! They have other responsibilities too like research etc

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

@@zxdp747 radiographic positioning isn't simple and as it takes an element of patient care and consideration of their ability to hold a position, its a little difficult to get a machine to do it. As radiation is used you cant just keep going until you get a good image. Also the tool being referred to is the ability to aid diagnosis, the is no mention of scanning in this video. Clearly you haven't understood it and should perhaps rewatch it.

I am a trainee registrar (resident) in the UK. I used to be very worried about AI. The more I work in this speciality the more I realise it's an opportunity and not a threat. 1. Our jobs are not just looking at pixels on a screen. Its about justifying the exam, choosing the correct modality, phase and timing. Nothing is black and white. Things are not as simple as yes or no. Its about appreciating the clinical history, old imaging and managing a finite resource. Most of the leading companies in the AI Radiology field I have spoken to are surprisingly uninformed about what we do. 2. X rays are a dying art form increasingly performed by radiographers. CT/MRI is widely available and the bread and butter of radiology. 3. US/Interventional radiology still require a person to perform and has high user variability. 4. Medico legally complexities - too much to cover. 5. Testing algorithms from one patient cohort/area has mixed results when applied to other patient groups. Though, I don't doubt huge training sets and deep learning can overcome this. I don't doubt it will be very useful for high volume and simple imaging like mammograms or looking for lesions on CXR. Radiologists are future proofing themselves by making sure more of their work involves patient contact/physical procedures or complex imaging like MR. There is a lot of hype and many predictions about our replacement are now overdue. We have a saying in radiology - those who use AI will replace those who don't.

@asmaamohammad2240

Жыл бұрын

And after 3 years .. what is your advice for GP doctors please ? Should we think of other specialities due to AI future ?

@anoushkas8726

3 ай бұрын

​​@@asmaamohammad2240 As of now Radiology alone seems threatened by AI. Not other branches. Especially surgical branches.

What about the accuracy rate of using the A.I. as an assist for radiologists? Something like radiologist reads picture without A.I. input (to keep the opinion independent) and then if A.I. disagrees it goes up for a second review?

This is another opportunity for corporate health care to cut human workforce and still sell us the expensive product, also a great step for authority. But now comes with an app!

As someone who studies healthcare engineering and management, it excites me to see innovation in my field of study.

@guardian6975

3 жыл бұрын

And to get replaced!

@ahad1609

2 жыл бұрын

@@guardian6975 engineers are gping to be replaced, too.

This will be life saving for alot of people. Freeing up a Dr.’s time to work on other aspects of a patients heath is an amazing use of technology.

What is the site that long haired guy used for scanning the x ray?

As a student who has been working with computational imaging algorithms, most of these in development are not intended to replace a radiologist's job, but rather to help aid them with a form of feedback. It's nearly impossible for algorithms to be 100% foolproof, as there will always exist some false positive rate. Nor is it possible that an algorithm can achieve a 100% correct diagnosis rate without some amount of false positive. On top of that, with the algorithm demonstrated in the video, the output may yield competing diagnoses, many of which could be false positives. There are many other external factors that may confirm or deny a diagnosis, such as the patient's medical history or family background. While images are easy to quantify as data, external qualitative factors are very difficult to feed into a machine learning or deep learning model. Under the circumstance of a potential false positive or multiple competing diagnoses, ultimately it is up to the radiologist and their peers to make the final call. Anyway, while I'm not an expert in either radiology or computation, after working in this area for a couple of years, I would say people shouldn't jump to the conclusion of AI taking over medical jobs. Patient data is a lot more finnicky than what people think, it's not clean spreadsheets, and many assumptions and estimates have to be made (like how do you quantify family history of lung cancer, is it a yes/no answer? Do we need to know how many generations have had lung cancer? Do we need to know which side of the family has it? How severe the cancer was? etc.)

Using AI to analyze stuff like this can't happen soon enough. The only thing I'm worried about is that the cost (or access to it) will be very disruptive. Either the hospital pays a crazy amount to use the AI or they hire a radiologist which by that point is almost nowhere to be found.

this is pretty interesting, surprised this isn't already a thing

Harvard is doing something similar in their incubator program. They had similar accuracy. R.I.P radiology job at this rate. Some day designer job and many more will cease to exist

*If the Algorithm doesn't find anything. Let the patient chose to have a human check. If the Algorithm finds something then a human will have to intervene anyway*

@aryan4268

4 жыл бұрын

You have a better chance when ai does diagnosis rather than doctor. You have a 2% better chance using ai

Would we feel bad about oncologists if we cured cancer?

@riccardobertagna9388

4 жыл бұрын

That's exactly my point. If we don't need a certain job, it's because we are passed that. Two people I know died because the docs didn't read the X-ray properly. AI checks can help so much!

@PresidentialWinner

4 жыл бұрын

Think of all those poor horses that lost their jobs to cars. Millions of horses out of a job! Poor little horses. Same with humans. Get on with the program or begone. Progress is relentless and everyone should educate themselves on AI instead of blindly walking towards a certain future with no foresight. AI is coming and it's coming fast. It's going to replace us at everything. But not in a short period of time. It's going to be a generational thing. Our kid's grand kids won't even know what a job is.

@koilamaoh4238

4 жыл бұрын

Its not like cancer will magically disappear anytime soon.. Only way of avoiding it is by becoming a robot much later in the future. Cancer will always be there, in our lifetimes and future generations.

@Lo2smoove

4 жыл бұрын

Note Pen the cure for cancer is out there. You think in today’s world with all this technology and so on, that they don’t know? We are smarter than this. At some point you gotta wake up and realize that we are always being lied to. Some things they don’t want us to cure because that’s less money for them if there are no patients for these things.

@PresidentialWinner

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lo2smoove Out there? Where? You do realize cancer is a family of diseases for which no one treatment or drug or solution can ever be devised. Ever. Google "why haven't we cured cancer yet"

Isnt this a re-upload from like last year

You do realize that you need someone to run it, and algorithms miss things all the time. Just look at social media.

I'd rather have Ai then a human to be a radiologist, if it means it's more accurate, it will cost less too, that means more people will get yearly check ups and better overall healthcare.

@kifter4254

4 жыл бұрын

Peter Fairclough or bull shit AI to make us even sicker..

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

What little I could find regarding pricing suggested its currently more expensive, also it currently performs worse than radiologists. Its just not as simple as buying a computer that reads x-rays.

@TheBlackMage3

4 жыл бұрын

I work with IT in a radiology department. Right now we are in the early days for AI in radiology. At our institution we use an AI algorithm to try to detect pulmonary emboli and intracranial bleeds. If it's not one of those two diagnoses, it doesn't see it. Additionally, it is currently overcalling these diagnoses at an alarming rate. It was so bad, we had to disable the AI for non-radiology clinicians because it was negatively effecting care (e.g. wasting consult time, causing people to be unnecessarily admitted, etc.). Our radiologists have very mixed opinions on it. Some of them seem to like the second eyes while others feel like they need to hedge on things the previously would not have called (and probably shouldn't be called pathology). Most of the money you pay (e.g. $2k for a CT scan) goes to the person who owns the scanner. Very little goes to the radiologist (e.g. $10 for a chest x-ray or $60 for a CT scan). The AI will have to be licensed and it will require even more computing power. Therefore, it is unclear how it will actually effect costs.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBlackMage3 this is what ive tried to say in about 20 different posts. Mind if I copy and paste this haha. The thought of paying for a ct scan, especially 2k to is terrifying. Rather than hoping ai will reduce costs people should vote for free healthcare!

@TheBlackMage3

4 жыл бұрын

@@buttonpusher3786 Yes, feel free to copy and paste. There is a lot of baseless hype around AI. I have no doubt that it will have uses throughout the economy, but I wish the news would stop scaring people needlessly. We definitely need to find a way to pay the hard working techs, nurses, doctors, etc. who actually take care of people and pay less to the hospitals/administrators. When I went to the ER after chopping off the tip of my finger, my bill was almost $1.5k. Only $100 went to the doctor who fixed my finger. The rest went to the hospital for having me sit in their ER for 8 hours while waiting to see the doctor. I literally got no tests or images. This is the reverse of the way it should work.

Seriously let AI do all the jobs and lets everyone have a debate about unemployment 😇

*AHA!* so the Google searches were right all along!!! Looks like i'm dying then 😂

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

Whatever your symptoms dr google says cancer! Oh well, you had a good life.

@zaaya7719

4 жыл бұрын

Dave Davidson exactly lol

3:12 I can't imagine worse interviewing techniques.

@genericalias5756

4 жыл бұрын

That bothered me so much

@TheLeader664

4 жыл бұрын

BeaterWRX that was cringe tbh

Universal basic income now! Also yes you can fly around the world without a pilot.

But Doooocccc, this app said you NEED to prescribe me these strong painkillerssss... pleeeeaassee??

That is cool, imagine getting and instant diagnosis from an X ray saving critical time with higher acuracy and for way cheaper. That means more people will be able to afort it and get good healthcare. This is a win no mater how you look at it.

well to be totally honest, A.I has the access to libraries of patient's symptoms in the net. I'd still trust a doctor for final conclusions though :/

You basically have the same on electrocardiograms - the computer gives you an analysis of the rhytm, frequency and possible arrythims or anomalies. Yet you still have to figure out if thats true, you check the patients history, meds, diseases etc. and then decide if the info your given is actually true. Its the same in Xrays. It might come as an aid for orientation, but it wont replace human doctors.

That was vey mature, vice

Many professions will be impacted and people will have to adapt once A.I. becomes a reality. The benefits (and risks) are immense.

What about Cytotechs and MLS?

I guess dropping out of that x-ray tech school wasn’t as wasteful after all? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤔

@Jaclyn_Zen

4 жыл бұрын

No No hey I tried hard! Lol it just wasn’t for me... or I wasn’t for it. 🤦🏻‍♀️😅

@Jaclyn_Zen

4 жыл бұрын

On the brighter side, the new technology might significantly reduce costs. Health Care in the USA is crazy expensive.

@carlosmartinez3020

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jaclyn_Zen lol nah if any thing the health would get more expensive due to the cost of the machinery that would need funding.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

This is regarding radiologists reading images not taking x-rays. Machines taking X-rays is likely a much longer way off. However if you wouldn't have enjoyed it, it was a smart move. Hopefully you found something you enjoy!

@user-tm1ix7xi1n

4 жыл бұрын

Do computer science

You can never fully replace doctors, especially radiologists. AI and a doctor combined could be super great but you can never take the human element out of healthcare

@infiltr80r

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you can, it will happen eventually. Humans in such roles are inefficient and very error prone. If the doctor didn't sleep well, had a divorce, death in the family -- good luck with your random diagnosis.

@michaelmjack3336

Жыл бұрын

1:09 Underexposed CXR which is NOT CLEAR! AI has missed a left apical spiculated mass, AP window consolidation and right paratracheal widening. Hyperinflated lungs suggestive of COPD with basal oligaemia which could represent underexposure, emphysema and/or bullous disease. In summary this could all be CANCER! I hope they got a real radiologist to look again at the CXR!

@theorangecandle

Жыл бұрын

@@infiltr80r True. But jobs in the IT sector will be lost way before jobs in healthcare.

@gamma4053

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but we need 1-2 doctors instead of dozen. That 1-2 doctor will only check AI.

I'd still prefer the contact and empathy only a person can provide.

Do Rio mog oto mr roboto. That songs bit creepy now

The problem with A.I. vs Human is the fact that the algorithm has NEVER experienced "Wet-Birth", so does not understand the pain/feeling factor..

2:20 how many doctors misdiagnosed patients?

They also don’t have to pay the a.i., so there’s that, the monetary motivation for greater profits. 👎

@jusletursoulglobaby

4 жыл бұрын

that is the ultimate motivator...

@infiltr80r

4 жыл бұрын

Of course, you complete idiot. By your logic, we should just keep jobs for the sake of people having a job. Why weight beans in a store, hire people to count beans individually! More jobs for everyone! Less people eventually means cheaper services.

This is exactly what Yang2020 was talking about.

@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons

4 жыл бұрын

John Nickel well he’s no longer running, so ....

@uknowimeyen

4 жыл бұрын

@@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons The problem still exists so his points are still relevant even if he dropped out

@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons

4 жыл бұрын

uknowimeyen ya but he’s not 2020 anymore, that is what I meant!

@blahber222

4 жыл бұрын

I think I Got This! hmm, he’s still 2020 on instagram ahaha

@imhuemankeepURcolorsforcrayons

4 жыл бұрын

Roland what does that mean, absolutely nothing. He is no longer running 2020, he will not be on any ballot.

"super chill MRI"

Greater accuracy yes, but certain jobs requires intuition and professional judgement, and Ai can't do that

WELP!!!!! I’m glad I didn’t listen to my father about being a radiologist

@optimusprime5199

4 жыл бұрын

Wtf is is your id pic?

@SirEnzo371

4 жыл бұрын

Probably wouldn't have made it anyways.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

@@SirEnzo371 You're probably right because it's something you need a passion for or it's going to really suck. I hope you found something you really enjoy as your profession.

@SirEnzo371

4 жыл бұрын

@@buttonpusher3786 No, mostly becoming a doctor is extremely difficult yet alone becoming a radiologist which is one of the more competitive specialties in the US.

@shawnlynch9658

3 жыл бұрын

Lol you can't even get into medical school, talking about Radiology shhh

a radiologist would still be needed to confirm the results

@rizolli-bx9iv

3 жыл бұрын

Only for that they are required just to oversee

excellent

I want an A.I. to do my laundry...

I think A.I. will be more efficient one day than a radiologist, and that's a good thing.

@ChristianNorge

4 жыл бұрын

But what if the AI determines you're slightly overweight, and decides that the best course of action is to fat shame you

@Danuxsy

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChristianNorge Even better.

That last doctor is suffering from clinical case of denial.

Think about how great this would be in poor areas with no access to good medical care. I wonder if an AI could diagnose an illness with only an ultrasound that doctors would need an MRI for?

@Marg205

4 жыл бұрын

Doctors these days can't diagnose their own rear ends correctly.

For those who don't understand computer programming. This is just simply a narrowing algorithm.this is nothing fancy like machine learning or anything like that this is really simple stuff and it's been around for a long time.

Had assessed AI compared with radiologist reading. Id say 50% accurate. Only sees the obvious pathologies, but not the subtle findings that needs human rationing. Hence, DOCTORS of every specialty cannot be replaced regardless how good AI can be!

I'd like to see specialists go into the understaffed GP role.

I think AI is far from replacing human physicians because of the fact that medicine is not an exact science, and ultimately You are dealing with a human being who has specific social, economical and situational circumstances You have to account for when diagnosing and treating.

Don't fear the future because of 'jobs'....This will be an amazing tool for clinicians going forward. This isn't a replacement but an augmentation. Lives>Jobs....

Ehh...79% compared to 81% isnt a huge change, and this is one study. Other studies differ. Its not necessarily a sure thing

@Kartik-ij2vy

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter ,they are cost effective

Good. I had a broken wrist last year that they swore was not broken. Got the images to a second doctor and who told me it was def broken.

The end of this video was the best part. We will use it but dont go crazy like if AI is the next gold rush!

Uhhh.. so why is this a vice video again?

I knew I saw this before!

These studies, along with those showing comparable accuracy in the diagnosis of malignant melanoma, are obviously fascinating. But the ethical implications of integrating such algorithms in actual clinical practice are far from being clear. Figuring that out will be the real breakthrough.

As soon as those programs can decode a doctors handwriting I'm in...

How up did he say “it trained itself”? Yup these are the days. I’m showing my loyalty now, hail Skynet!

@DuckieMcduck

4 жыл бұрын

The A.I. agent is put in a feedback system where it gives an estimate based on data it has received. You give the system pictures of "dog" for its "bank" then offer it pictures with no classification to see if it can estimate if there's a "dog" in the that input. The feedback system then corrects the result and the agent trains itself this way until it gets within acceptable estimates for most pictures of "dog", and then you have a billion mini-issues that require tweaking and optimizing where the algorithm is detecting a Lynx as a "dog" or not recognizing "Pugs". It's not perfect by any means which is why this video is a clickbait title.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

@@DuckieMcduck yeah, computer aided diagnosis isn't a new thing nor is it currently good enough to be used. It would still be interesting without a clickbait title which is why its so annoying. Also, great explanation!

Human in the loop systems are always more effective than AI or human only systems. Humans who understand what the algorithm is doing will still be needed if only to confirm the AIs output. Radiologists will need a new set of lateral skills covering many imaging technologies and with AI will be able to multiply their current workload. The most likely outcome of widely available AI/Deep Learning diagnostic tools is a expansion of radiologists capability in terms of volume of cases assessed and an evolution of their current responsibilities. Medical schools should be focusing on how humans can work WITH the AI rather than speculating that they will entirely replace the need for human radiologists. The real opportunity, if businesses allow it, isn't eradicating expensive radiologists, it will be to lessen the cost of imaging and make it affordable for a much wider swath of humanity where today only a small fraction of humanity have access to this type advanced medical imaging.

Less than 40,000 radiologists for 300 million potential patients? I'm hyped! let's get some augmentation and reduce these work loads.

You know this is disturbing to radiologists currently going through school and training.

Programmers: "Wth is algorithm"

it's beautiful that the computer can diagnose me with the disease that it gave me.

plz, Sir humble request to give me information about AI in medicine. How can I apply? what is the necessary subject. plz, Sir. humble request I am small brother you're... plz sir help me.

When i had my lumbar fuses the surgery success rate was only 60/40 but i got lucky. If a robot could have done it with better chances, i would pick the robot

jajajajaja all that school to be replaced by a computer LMFAO. So happy im in the technology field lmao

@CancunMimosa

4 жыл бұрын

techfreak111 Yah. Technology is getting into every facet of society. People shouldn’t view automation as a scary thing. New jobs are always created in response. One only has to study the progression of farming and its relationship with technology towards greater, safer efficiency.

@navjotsingh2251

2 жыл бұрын

Radiologists study biology, physics and most modern degrees include some programming? They could just switch to software development or contribute to radiology AI code to ensure its not a clinical risk and do research in the field?

Just wait 'til they have Stuxnet for ChexNet, LOL.

Dwight would beat the computer always!

AI is going to threaten most jobs. The question is not if, it is when. The fact that now AI is on the precipice of threatening jobs that require higher levels of education and skill - jobs which pay substantially higher wages - is in one way positive for those who are in lower income brackets. Due to their lack of capital, people on the lower income bracket have a hard time organizing for fairer treatment because those who occupy the upper income bracket, such as doctors, did not share their plight and could not empathize with their predicament. These highly skilled professionals could not relate to those in "blue collar" occupations, and the job insecurity that they face. Hence, these two cohorts never sought common cause politically. Now that those who are part of the upper economic echelon are about to experience the same job insecurity that lower income groups have been experiencing for decades, maybe this will cause both groups to unite for a more equitable society. In this sense AI, and the technical infrastructure that would allow highly skilled jobs to be outsourced to cheaper labor markets, will allow groups that have historically been on opposite sides of the political spectrum to unite.

@darrenyang6626

4 жыл бұрын

Drake Santiago what r u on who cares if groups unite, if ai is more efficient than a human that job doesn’t need to exist, there’s no “equitable society” where people can choose how a business works when they have no leverage

Somewhere in the future during a Joe Rogan podcast: Elon Musk: "Heh, wait till you see that AI can also be a better school shooter than humans" Joe: "Whoah thats crazy" AI: "So anyways, I started blasting in the school. Never thought water guns would be that fun" Elon Musk ".......yep, they also use memes AND they got you in the first half" Joe: "......" Elon: "What is it Joe" Joe: *frowns* Elon: "no Joe, AI cannot take DMT, it's not possible" Joe: :( I think the future will be great.

@MickeyD2012

4 жыл бұрын

You are clearly not a great thinker.

@scivnce4273

4 жыл бұрын

The Original Gamer honestly this video proves none of us are

@forestriver437

4 жыл бұрын

Peanuts ThatTasteLikeDepression so you’re a depressed peanut

If AI replaces human or eliminate jobs then why bother making AI?

@extremepsyche3135

4 жыл бұрын

Our future AI overlords will not be pleased with your comment

@Brandonhayhew

4 жыл бұрын

extremeblue psyche unless computer engineers decides that there is a problem with their robot

@deletemymind565

4 жыл бұрын

more free time? obviously, under our current economic system this will lead to mass unemployment. but economic systems can be changed

@deletemymind565

4 жыл бұрын

@Andres Leon "people in asia make nothing compared to americans" this is completely nonsense lol

You have to be very careful with learning algorithms, it's impossible to know what it is that they're looking at. An example of this is the x-ray machine calibration. If hospital A and B are used as training data, but hospital A sees sicker patients while hospital B sees healthier patients, then the algorithm will learn that x-rays that look like they're from hospital A are more likely to be sick.

@Speaks4itself

4 жыл бұрын

That's not how it works, they have given their algorithm the data of patients without pneumonia and they have compared it with patients that have pneumonia. So from comparison the algorithm can figure out which patient has pneumonia and which doesn't.

Humanity is a stepping stone.

Radiologist are sweating right now

O well, I’ll just get my certifications to be a dental hygienist when it’s time. Sure it will be awhile until a computer can do that.

@infiltr80r

4 жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised.

Doctors should use these programs, but it would be foolish to let a computer be a doctor for many reasons

My only question is how much we will pay?

It's a good news to the patients. Better yet, if the X-ray can be done through an app or mobile devices.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

X-rays require a lot of electrical power to be produced and use radiation so it would be dangerous and irresponsible to do that. Ultrasound might be a possibility but you'd still need to be able to read it and ultrasound probes are expensive.

Maybe having ai double checked by human eyes would be a good alternative. Technology has glitches and issues and there has to be fail safes in place.

@buttonpusher3786

4 жыл бұрын

This is likely where we are headed and although AI isn't good enough yet it is getting better. Radiologists are great but they're overworked and there are only so many of them. Human error rates in radiology remain constant and ai or techniques like bone subtraction may aid in reducing those errors in the future.

It's not versus, it's a tool. Radiologists can make their own diagnostics and then double check it with the algorithm, nothing wrong with that. It's how lots of diagnostics are already made these days.

I think its weird that they cut back to the journalist to show head nods. #getsomebroll brrrruh.

In regards to the legal aspect, who will be legally responsible for the AI if there are no radiologists anymore in the hospitals?

@hunk9730

Жыл бұрын

Radiologist will supervise work, so 10 radiologist work done by 1 radiologist where ai will do reporting radiologist will supervise

Horse and rider. Horse does most of the work and makes decisions at the discretion of the rider.

Every time I see that Vice uploads I’m filled with joy

But can the AI pass the MCAT?