This is why you CAN'T Daily Drive Porsche 911 Turbos
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I traded my perfect DD (Diesel Colorado ZR2) for a Porsche sports car. The problem is, the Porsche isn't exactly GOOD at it....
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Starting w a clean well maintained example can make it livable. Rehabbing any project car is a labor of love
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
I daily drove my 996 GT3, and my 996 Turbo. The GT3 was a better daily and the Turbo (as you pointed out) drank fuel like there was no tomorrow, but the GT3 was just seemingly more troublefree.
@hectorfuji
5 ай бұрын
Dang, I hardly drive my 2002 996 base, has 26k on the odometer but bet it has given more trouble than your 996’s.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Most zay the turbo is a better daily. Hrm
@docwyte
4 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross turbo is definitely a better daily. My 996 turbo has been 100% trouble free
Keep the faith Matt. You're still churning through years of neglect from the previous owners. I daily an '01 996TT and have zero qualms about taking it anywhere. You've come so far with it, you'll get it back to baseline. You should be able to pile the miles on it...
Had the EXACT same issue with my 997tt and replacing the purge valve fixed it as well
If you still have a CEL for the EVAP system. Try changing your fuel tank pressure sensor. I fought the same code over the summer in my Silverado and finally fixed it after replacing the fuel tank pressure sensor
Simultaneous ABS and PSM lights usually indicates a boost leak. There are a few other causes, but the simultaneous faults have like 4 different possibilities as culprits.
Just ordered the Lastfit air pump! Thanks for the link Matt!
I had issues filling both my 996 turbo & 997 turbo. Best not to let them not hit red and they only fill to little less than 3/4 and the gas head had to be tilted to the 90* or upside down. Problem starting after could be purge control valve back in motor. And bad purge valve causes idle fluctuations. And, the purge valve isn’t a drop motor on the 997. Just cut the heat shrink & use regular auto rubber hose & clamp. Congrats & cheers
purge valve fixed my 996 turbo, love the car
My dream car is a 991 911 Turbo, so hopefully those are a bit more reliable to daily drive than the older ones. My 991 Carrera S has been an amazing daily driver for me so far
@jouleskelvin
5 ай бұрын
I have a 991.2 Turbo S. 45k on it ... Zero issues. 👍
@NZotyoka81
5 ай бұрын
It’s always depends on the previous owners not on the car. All 911 is solid and reliable. You could daily drive an old classic air cooled model too.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Old abused cars like mine aren't good examples lol
Hey Matt, love all of the work you put into these videos! The 996 is so cool and you have converted me re Speed Yellow…Love it! Hope you guys had a nice Christmas! Can’t wait to see the 997 as seller new paint!!!!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much and you too!
Thanks for sharing with us, much respect! ❤️
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I had the same problem with my Cayenne turbo did the exact same thing. It was a cheap part $120 part. It was a purge valve for something with the fuel system. It was allowing fuel vapours to go into the intake manifold, and essentially choking out the engine.
Great video, I really enjoy watching your progress! Keep up the great video work, its good, real good!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
It's getting there!
Good job! I had a similar issue with my Audi A6. Turned out to be the purge valve as well.
My daily for the past year has been a Porsche 996 turbo…… super fun I love it
This might sound crazy but all the symptoms the car is displaying shows it might be a bad ground in the engine harness not making enough contact.
My dad daily drove first 78sc (car I still have ) for years ! You still have some gremlin to work out. Only thing we don’t deal with snow and salt roads in florida!
Classic car ownership requires a little more love & tlc. Nice to see 996 content and looking forward to the inevitable 997 comparison. Oh, and get some shorter wheel studs for your 996 :)
Congrats on 60k buddy!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
Check the abs/wheel speed sensors. I had intermittent issues on my 986 and after replacing them no more issues
One thing I had on a MG Metro Turbo was heat soak from turbo on the fuel system when I went to restart after filling up. The answer isn't always obvious.
OMG!!! :o You're still having problems with this thing Auuuugg! I've been daily driving mine pretty much ever sense I bought it in 2013. I don't know what could cause so many issues for so long, my heart goes out to you Matt.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
ALWAYS having problems lol. But the problems are getting smaller (I think)
Nice work ❤️ 👍🏼
Take it to the Porsche dealership for a computer diagnose because there are other type of codes what you can’t read out with a common reader. I did that with my jaguar when i had a problem with my climate control. It cost me $100 and got the right answer onto my problem. Got the faulty sensors changed by myself and the problem got solved. The best quality gas what you can find in PA is the Sonoco 93. I tried several gas stations and that was the best.
I daily drove a 997.1TT for 2 years in Utah snow, rain, shine. Was wonderful! Only recently started putting it in the garage to try to be nice to it. I have put money into its maintenance, but all was preventative. Average mpg was probably 16. My school of thought is this, if you purchase an expensive cheap car, you are going to pay for it. If you buy an expensive, well maintained car, you get what you pay for. Being an enthusiast and doing your own work as much as possible is the way to go.
That yellow jack always cracks me up with the squeaking 😂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Maybe I'll lube it someday lol
What was happening was that when you fill up the vent valve should be open to allow fumes into the charcoal canister and let out excess air that has been stripped of gasoline fumes and it wasn't. With the vent valve not opening and allowing the normal process to happen the fumes went into the engine when they are not supposed to causing a vapor lock.
I “daily” my 01 996TT. 204,000 miles. Driven from coast to coast and all around. Pulling the engine and trans right now to replace tons of brittle rubber and plastic, and swap the tired clutch out. They are pretty robust cars.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Mine just still needs more work to be that reliable.
Whoop great work. I love it when it is that easy. lol Did you just jacked the rear from the sump plate?
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Yup. It's a solid areas
The plastic PCV lines tend to get brittle. Probably should have replaced all those at the same time.
When are you going to sort those very long wheel studs? Love the series and checking back in with this project
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Some day lol
Really great video, I appreciated the EVAP explanation - although it was a little over my head, might need to watch that part again. Your lady sounds like exactly what mine would say. Also that's about the gas mileage I get too.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Isn't owning a classic car fun? Nice job fixing the fueling issue. As for the PCM issue, you may have faulty ABS sensors. They often go bad, especially in areas that salt the roads in winter. They are usually pretty easy to replace as long as the mounting hardware hasn't rusted up too badly. The other possibility could be that you have a faulty g-sensor. Those are located inside the car, I think in the passenger footwell area. I haven't replaced one, so that's just a shot in the dark, but I thought I'd share that info as well. Good luck!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Yes tons of fun! Lol thanks
Well i will update because i just bought a 996tt 01' for my new daily.
The ABS and PCM lights can be triggered by the mass air sensor. Give that a check.
There is a Cable running through both front fenders for the pad wear sensor and wheel speed. This cable goes bad and like your friend earlier in the video was saying. You lose continuity. I had the intermittent lights and my problem was my driver side cable. Common issue
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Might be the issue
Matt I really enjoy following your channel. Do you have mechanic experience? You are very knowledgeable about what you are doing and I am always impressed by your knowledge and tenacity. I have a ‘21 Cayman S so I am a Porsche fan also! Can you share with me the diagnostic device you use and do you have a discount code from a particular brand? Looking forward to your next video! Happy New Year!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Here's a simple Ancel one I use. Works with your phone or handheld. Pretty cheap too! www.amazon.com/ANCEL-Bluetooth-Automotive-Diagnostic-Compatible/dp/B07J51W9NS?maas=maas_adg_D3D9DDBE2E4C49ECD79BC2BD6988A226_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
And thanks! I was never a mechanic, just wrenched in my spare time for many years.
@jeffreybell8301
5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother. Your abilities to do what you have done are incredible. Hope to meet you one day. I watch you every week. You are my favorite weekly video!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support and for watching!
@sutherlacd27
5 ай бұрын
Those standard readers are good enough to read faults and clear them but that's all they can do. They can't reset oil change reminders for example. They can't do any programming either. I have a cheap standard reader myself. But I plan on getting a durametric pro at some point. That tool does absolutely everything you could need done
Check your reluctor rings on rear driveshafts. They can get gunked up with rust and cause the ABS sensor to freak out and throw a code. If they look ok and arent split it's likely a bad ABS sensor.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I need to get someone to check the codes
as you're getting 12mpg and your psm and abs light are on I would look at your MAF sensor. Dodgy MAF can cause the PSM & ABS lights to come on
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
To be fair, it gets 24 ish highway.
@cycoracing
5 ай бұрын
Mine gets about 30 on the highway and that included a few blasts on the autobahn up to 185mph. Still think you should look at your maf sensor. It causes poor fuel mileage, idle issues and psm/abs lights when it's playing up
Just like my 85 944 fix on thing and then bam another issue!!! 300k so it’s all good!! At least you fixed one issue!!! 😅
Well done! That’s gotta be satisfying. I daily drive mine for the last 3.5 years over 40k miles and it’s been bulletproof in the rain, sleet, or snow. They don’t like to sit for too long, I can tell you that😬😅
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Lucky dog!!!
How many of us drive our cars over 60/80,000 miles with just regular maintenance stuff and no major problems perhaps your car has some underlying gremlins from before. No doubt it is a great looking car and I would drive it as much as I could.
There’s a reason my uncles 91 964 isn’t daily driven. It’s got 15k on it but I see why he doesn’t daily drive his icon.
Matt, I love your channel and I love your projects and cars. But you can't answer the daily-or-not-question based on some crazy project cars that were litterally fucked up before. We have and had many Porsche Turbos in our family, including a 997.1 Turbo manual, and we never had problems with them. But these cars were all Porsche Centre maintained all their life, low mileage, low amount of hands, accident free etc., and much more expensive like your 997s for example of course. The 911, including the Turbos, are known to be perfectly fine for daily driving. My good friend is a Porsche Centre workshop manager and he says the same. But he says, after 997, it got worse, because of new engines and much more electronics. So, don't give up, fix the problems and enjoy the hell out of them!🙂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Someday it will be reliable. It's all basically caught up maintenance wise. Just giving me issues. But expected for 150k miles I guess.
@BastianKH
5 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross Yes, I hope for you and am looking forward to the videos.
The durametric scan tool might point to a wheel speed sensor causing your intermittent issues. You also might be able to inspect the connectors and you might see one intermittently grounding or cracked. You also might not be able to see it, it is millavolts and doesn’t take much to interrupt the Hall effect. I can mail you my durametric if you pinky swear to send it back quickly but you have enough going on you can justify your own and it has lots of features a generic scan tool doesn’t have that you’d get a lot out of it with your builds.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I may take you up on that!
ABS plus PSM means you have to replace the little breack switch. Use an eom one .its sheep. Cheers
Sorry to hear you got hacked
My 996 turbo was my only car for a number of years and it was fine, but I also got WAY better than 12mpg and I don't exactly spare the throttle...
Evap is the reason for hard start after filling up.
Your gorgeous wife in the video 👌🏻👍🏻 Happy 2024 to the both of you.
I see this as why I CAN daily a 911 turbo
This does not count as a “shit, this is not good” situation….nice job finding it and fixing it
2:25 Don’t break up with her Matt. She’s gorgeous. 😂
What are you using to read the codes?
Those damn purge valves are a big issue with the VW/Audi world. After a quick check - your Porsche has the exact same part. Not a surprise, but hey, that's German car life.
I feel like the talk about this being a reliable daily doesn't apply to such an absolutely beat, clapped out example
@scottchelmford7136
5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Plenty of high mileage 996 tts that are daily driven but are actually maintained
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I certainly wouldn't say mine is beat, or clapped out, or even close. Did it used to be? Yes.
@scottchelmford7136
5 ай бұрын
@Matt13Ross all 20 yr old cars have gremlins that pop up. My dc2 left me stranded a few months ago because the neutral stop switch on the clutch pedal broke as it dried out.
You have a problem with your carbon canister probably clogged. I went thru similar issues with my 996tt. Ended up replacing most of the valves for fuel evap system only to find out my problem was a bumble bee had flown into an open ended fuel evap line that runs from the front all the way to the engine bay. 😂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Wtf lol
OK, now you've done two sponsor spots for portable inflators: Yantu and Lasfit. Which one do you like better? I need one for cars/bicycles/sportsballs/pool stuff/etc.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Lasfirt. Much much smaller and works excellent
@kevinm8715
5 ай бұрын
Thanks! @@matt13ross
Sounds like you you need to purge your evap
Nothing better than when a fix works
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Agreed!
I daily’d a 997 for 17 years very few issues
Hi Matt. Well done for figuring that little problem out. Nice one lol. It would take me weeks bro. Happy New Year 😅 🇨🇮
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Same to you!
SPOILER ALERT! Your ad for Lasfit tire inflator has your fully painted chalk (?) 911 in the background.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Did you watch the ad? I mentioned that lol
What’s insurance cost like on a 996?
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Not bad I suppose because insurance views it as old and not worth much money.
nice
High mileage or high age = more maintenance. You my friend have a two for one. It’s all part of the fun, isn’t it?
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I guess so....lol
I’m surprised the car didn’t start at 9:11 😜 😂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Haha
Bad purge valve?
@thebigv8644
5 ай бұрын
That's was gonna be my comment too.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Keep watching lol
Change them front studs driving my ocd nuts can't look at them hahaha
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Better than the old ones lol
@vxracing380
5 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross I do agree there just need to be shorter 😂😂😂
She literally dropped it like it's hot. Nope, you staying together. 😂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Yes lol
Fun Fact: I'm currently with my wife of 16 years because the day we met, she could differentiate between an E63 & a C63 Mercedes exhaust! 🤣
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
That's impressive!
Are you gonna keep this one after you finish the 997? As awesome as it is, it seems impractical to have two 911 Turbos...
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I won't be keeping both.
🔥🔥
Bring back the stash Matt
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Maybe!?
Matt , air flow sensor ?
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
For which issue?
@marchough2424
5 ай бұрын
Apologies , I had a 996 about 9 years ago and it used to " Hunt" on idle especially when it was cold weather.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I replaced the MAF last year.
@marchough2424
5 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross okay I will be quiet…. Lol I don’t want to add to the problem solving noise. It’s a very common problem with all 2002 Porsche’s onwards. Even today it’s a weak spot.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
It could be the MAF still. Maybe I got a bad one?
OMG dude! I feel for you so hard right now because I have had those damn cars that every time you think you fix something and now it is acting differently, there's a new light in the dash. Just like, stop it already for fucksake! LOL! Just go ahead and be right and stop arguing with me!!
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
It's always fighting me lol
What’s Turkey Hill?
@PompeyMatt17
5 ай бұрын
I'm English and I know Turkey Hill is a gas station and market
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Gas station
Valve exhaust would help you with the noise for your girlfriend. Works good for me I think all those guys have that issue
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I don't mind the noise lol
Sell the 996 and change the center caps to colored ones so it looks 💯
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Sell it???
@kingdomfunding
5 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross you’re gonna love the 997 and you will need space for the 991. Then you sell the 997 and get 992. We are with your journey for the long haul !!!
I see the 997 painted...😎😎😎
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Yup!!
Are those your front wheel studs, or are you just happy to see me?
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA
Why are we not talking about the lack of continuity, I mean, new paint job.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Because that's not ready yet lol
@jesseburns7700
5 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross It's shaping up to look pretty sharp.
I thank the lord for that double tap skip feature everytime car KZreadrs shove their girlfriends in videos they have no business being in
I couldn’t own that car with that exhaust. Even if I got that car for free I wouldn’t drive it
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Why?
i agree about the mustard speed yellow but doesnt the roller coastr stomach flipping power make it all worth it ma'am. cheers. never leave a pretty girl thats a friend and a wife because when looks go away, they always do youll still be friends with a pair of turbos. life doesnt get better cheers
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
It's not even mustard color lol
@gregoryfranks7347
5 ай бұрын
lol speed yellow= french's mustard, not the whole grain fancy pants crap. the kind that comes in a packet. the uncut stuff. ohhhhhh yeah. lol cant wait to see the other horrible daily driver with some fresh color juice up on her. cheers@@matt13ross
996 content his holding me over while I wait for your 997 to make it back lol
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Working on that video now lol
Matt, I think you are being a bit harsh on the “reliability”…considering your 996 and 997 were both rough versions of these top of the line 911’s (the only better, more expensive trim offered was the GT3). 150K miles is a lot for any car, let alone a European sports car. You would never see a Ferrari or Lamborghini even in one piece if it had that kind of mileage on them. That alone is a testament to the German engineering.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Fair points!
Check the mileage at 1:00. The car has gremlins.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
LOL Yikes!!
Purge valve is bad
“We are breaking up!” Good…You don’t need that kind of negativity in your life. lol 😂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
All of the negatives your gf mentioned are actually the pros/reasons we own cars like that 😂
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Exactly lol
So really it's less about 911's and more about age, haha.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Haha
Diagnosing late model car issues can sometimes be a headache, but keep your head up. You have a code reader and you have the right mindset to fix whatever you need to. You also have an awesome classic BMW with an LS engine. Most Porsches are gonna be left for dead in the reliability department by the LS. The 996 does have 150K miles though. Things tend to go wrong at the mileage.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
True story!!
The newer generations are more reliable and more suitable for daily driver use. I would not hesitate to use a 991 or 992 generation car for daily driving.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I agree but you're talking a 200k car vs 50k car
@Turboy65
5 ай бұрын
@@matt13ross Compare their prices adjusted for cost of living. A 2001 Turbo Coupe 2D had a starting price of $111,765 which is $192,795 in today's dollars so actually they compare well. (Cost adjusted to the Consumer Price Index) Today's Turbo Coupe starts at $199,.850.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Good point. I'm talking purchase right now though. I certainly can't afford a 991. I can't afford a 997 or even a 996. Only broken ones lol.
More conversation with your partner
Those lug bolts need fixed. Reminds me of those spike extended lug bolts on semi trucks
Don’t break up with her. She brings the household IQ up.
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
Hahaha
I subscribe bcause of the bmw but you let me fall inluv with Porsche
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
I'm glad!
Wear your seat belt on the way to the gas station 😊
@matt13ross
5 ай бұрын
It was a parking lot lol
@bmc5108
4 ай бұрын
Understood. Just stood out in the video. Keep up the great content.@@matt13ross