"This Is Why Therapy Sucks For Men" - My Brutal Advice For Young People | Robert Greene
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@A91367Ай бұрын
Let the man talk - you care too much about displaying YOUR intelligence/wisdom.
@jonathandavis9507
Ай бұрын
He wants to be Elon Musk, tho. 😂
@renatosureal
28 күн бұрын
exactly
@goodvibesjumperАй бұрын
Bro watched for 3 minutes and you interrupted Robert several times
@Leto2ndAtreides
24 күн бұрын
That's more an issue with conflicting conversational styles. Similar to the problem that happens with many women who aren't good at interrupting or holding attention in a conversation. Guys often want accelerated conversations if they're interested, and letting people just talk (when you roughly know what they're saying) takes too long.
@tess7798Ай бұрын
I hate that Tom keeps interrupting Robert. Clicking off now.
@whatsgood22022
Ай бұрын
It’s because Tom has a massive ego and lacks self awareness
@michaelbodine9240
Ай бұрын
Because Tom thinks he knows it all!
@dr.badass702
Ай бұрын
He’s insufferable
@TG-sy8hfАй бұрын
Bilyeu always likes to hear himself talk lol
@hunterhemingway
Ай бұрын
May be true. But speaking something you’ve just heard/learned back to a person or out loud allows for you to ensure comprehension.
@MrBlister808
Ай бұрын
Yes, paraphrasing back to the speaker what you've just heard them say shows them that you are actively listening.
@evan3087
Ай бұрын
😂 oh yes, he does. That’s the whole reason why he continues this chat show. Also, he loves it when he can match up with the guest on some topics
@Kdnjim
Ай бұрын
lol I don’t really view it that way. I’m respectfully curious about who views it this way. I find that people who usually make these comments are the ones who are almost the opposite, maybe somewhat introverted and maybe cautious of their own voice. Does that hit a note or no?
@403holbrook8
20 күн бұрын
That’s why he has 4 million followers…..he is worth listening to
@jacktesmer5068Ай бұрын
I think Robert is alluding to a victim mindset, the problem with therapy is a therapist is incentivized to not get you fully better, they'll have you talk in circles if you want. For me its helped me understand how to process and absorb emotions more appropriately, and how to understand and express my needs in a more direct and capable manner. I was raised in a household with poor communication and a constant unsafe feeling. Moving into adulthood has been an extremely painful process which personal work alongside therapy helped me a lot through.
@CuriousCattery
Ай бұрын
I totally agree. 'Bad Therapy' by Abigail Shrier shows how damaging it can be to tell someone they have PTSD or Clinical Depression for life. Instead, focusing on resilience and growth can help them come out stronger. That being said just like with mechanics, not all therapists are the same. Some really help, while others might make things worse creating a dependency.
@user-xu6bv7yh2j
Ай бұрын
robert doesn't understand math
@pierrecohenmusic
Ай бұрын
I agree. I think he’s talking about being more observant of our thoughts rather than being a victim to them. For example, observing when negative thought patterns occur and being able to identify them and re-shift our focus away from them.
@keithboyer3908Ай бұрын
I feel this is the lesson I'm failing to grasp right now. The constant rumination upon the negative is what I'm seeking to overcome.
@hungrymusicwolf
Ай бұрын
I'm right there with you but just one step further, so I need to warn you: trying to not ruminate is also a form of being stuck inside your own mind. Just get outside and do something, talk something, pursue something you like. No matter how small set your mind to something and do it. If you want to write a story even a single sentence for a day is great step forward, or if you want to get better at building something getting just one nail into the thing on the day is good. Just make sure to try your best for that day.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
Ай бұрын
It's not you.. It's him.
@Daimajin696Ай бұрын
This is so true. Our culture and society has become the "I'm offended" era. This is a self digesting fate.
@Sy8ro
Ай бұрын
Opposed to the “suck it up and deal with it” era? So you’d rather be the person who gets disrespected and not have the balls to stand up for yourself?
@Daimajin696
Ай бұрын
I'm offended!@@Sy8ro
@DefactoDissident
Ай бұрын
@@Sy8ro You need boundaries (which people mistake for balance). It ain't worth the trouble to trip over a rock and stomp it to dust. The thing is when it becomes an auto pilot, you're just running on impulse
@DefactoDissident
Ай бұрын
That's a change people need to acknowledge, and it can be good or bad on how we're adjusted. In an overwhelmingly traditional society people self-blame which isn't consciously viable.
@jb9433
Ай бұрын
@@Sy8ro I think you are confused. It's what you are offended about. The self-absorbed feel they are entitled to everything and offence is more important than free speech.
@Professor_GreenleafАй бұрын
As a therapist, I resonate with the views of Robert Greene on the matter. Discussing our thoughts and emotions solely reaffirms the internal conflict, highlighting the struggle between the self-the "I" or "me"-and its efforts to manage or control its thoughts. This illustrates self-absorption, where one part of our psyche dominates, the "I", endeavoring to suppress other elements such as unwelcome thoughts, memories, and emotions. This dominance leads to a fragmented and conflicted mind, devoid of peace or tranquility. Insight into the unity of the observer (me) and the observed (my thoughts and feelings), a concept echoed in Krishnamurti's discourses, can dissolve this inner conflict. Liberation from incessant thinking is achieved through the simple act of observing one's thoughts. The essence of this observation transcends mere contemplation about one’s thoughts; it is an absence of thought altogether. It is akin to gazing at the distant ocean horizon without the interference of thought-pure, attentive observation. This state of awareness constitutes genuine meditation.
@johnrenner7645
Ай бұрын
If spiders could speak they would be therapists and their web would be their words.
@la1930
Ай бұрын
Book: children of time
@andrewvanoort8539
Ай бұрын
Verbal ventilation is also not so far removed from rumination; talk about it enough to bring light to buried feelings, but not so much as to constantly dwell I think
@clinicalconsultingcenters3240Ай бұрын
From a psychologist perspective, it’s extremely important to note that the practice of psychotherapy is culture specific.
@doctoruttley
Ай бұрын
100%
@elektrablacksky
Ай бұрын
Can you explain that
@MrBlister808
Ай бұрын
Agreed; what the permissible parameters are, or goals, make an incredible difference to practice. And results.
@clinicalconsultingcenters3240
Ай бұрын
Mr Greene makes reference to a “philosopher/mentor” from Russia who believes that it’s better to keep feelings and thoughts inside, unspoken. Of course, in Russia, a communist country with a tyrannical dictator of a man speaks he will end up in prison. Furthermore, he doesn’t realize that part of what contributes to the decline in the role of men in western society is the lack of guidance for men. Boys are growing up in single parents homes with the absence of fathers. Moreover, Mr Greene’s weak verbosity is also irresponsible not taking account that many people’s lives depend on psychotherapy.
@123prestolee
Ай бұрын
IQ?
@villaespesa1Ай бұрын
Robert Greene has incredible insights. His take on self-absorption is right on, and a big problem of mine.
@elmerbeltshire7599
Ай бұрын
Robert Greene is an extremely dangerous center of cultural influence. He plays victim and somehow his multitude of bosses were the all bad ones when he clearly was the common denominator who 'deserved' better. He outlines how to use unethical behavior to overcome 'bad people' and then claims he's not promoting those behaviors. Look at his life, nothing he has done shines as a person who has given back to society, all fingers point towards covert narcissism. His teaching fester evil and promote falls hopes by stirring division in response to perceived tyranny. He's a very evil man with a false sense of meekness, his underpinnings are wrought with destructive teachings with a clear path to the elimination of the interweaving's of a healthy society. Wake up people!
@Nancy-cm1rhАй бұрын
Therapy can be bad/ therapy can be good when you leave u think about things!!!! ( In a good way/ in a bad way.) 😮 Mr. Green is right on......😊 .
@williamvonschenk2273Ай бұрын
I think artists and scientists whose laudable work goes unrecognized until after their death demonstrate the highest form of character. Their sacrifice demonstrates a level of faith few have. With such personal achievements comes a deeper satisfaction and intimacy with our creator when we are being who we are designed to be. And, such enduring works should take on a meaning greater than fleeting whims of ‘happiness’. Having children is another expression of this principle. Dignity resonates in the execution of it all.
@wendywilson18
Ай бұрын
@williamvonschenk2273 Well said, and very good points you make about character and faith. No life is easy, but some lives do end up being more meaningful than others, in hind-sight...Often hind-sight is the clearest vision to have when we look from present-sight.
@guillaumekeulen219
24 күн бұрын
I think Nietzsche Kafka the hobo from Nazareth!
@dianesmith8183Ай бұрын
Never been a people person...I don't need or want group or individual attention. Contentment is the goal, look inside, alone, not to another person. Most of us can't be honest with ourselves so we prefer distractions. Much love to both of you, thank you.❤❤
@mans_purpose_projectАй бұрын
Totally agree with Robert Greene on therapy. I grew more through working out and boxing for 3 months than 10+ years of therapy talking about abuse. Putting the anger of missed opportunities to the bag did more for me than being absorbed talking about my problems in therapy.
@user-xu6bv7yh2j
Ай бұрын
is it possible that people are different? What works for one, doesn't for another? Is it possible this asshole is just selling books like everyone else?
@rammul7801Ай бұрын
That’s very true for me. Talking about my feelings and my problems makes more frustrated. I absolutely hate being asked “what’s wrong “.
@jgboys1Ай бұрын
This is true. I took a job in 1981 right out High School going into Telecommunications field. Before I took the job I didn’t know how to do anything. I’ve been doing it now for 43 years and I enjoy it and like helping people at work socializing with my fellow co workers. I am 61 years old now and I’m starting to think of retirement. I have about another 6 years to go but I am not sure how I am going to feel once I do retire.
@NJ752Ай бұрын
I like Tom sharing his insights about his observation and experience
@tomfool43Ай бұрын
Tesla might have died sad and lonely, but he had a lot a affirmation from his society along the way and, I imagine, a lot of fulfilment. Just imagine the fulfillment of inventing something and seeing it works! Same with all great works of art - the creator knew it was great before society made up its mind one way or another - there's no reason for us to pity great artists who never lived to be called great - they knew. Rather pity the mediocrity who was lauded by his society but knew in his heart of hearts that he had failed.
@mattsparks5957
Ай бұрын
Im dieing sad and lonley
@rabidpeanut3703Ай бұрын
I have to agree with the guest this time. I do enjoy that flow and though my art might not ever grace museums, it makes no difference to me because it serves a wonderful purpose of intellectual exercise for myself. And I do feel that a lot of artists today get away from that. But I don't expect anything. To quote Mark Rothco, to illustrate my point." "When I was a younger man, art was a lonely thing. No galleries, no collectors, no critics, no money. Yet, it was a golden age, for we all had nothing to lose and a vision to gain. Today it is not quite the same. It is a time of tons of verbiage, activity, consumption. Which condition is better for the world at large I shall not venture to discuss. But I do know, that many of those who are driven to this life are desperately searching for those pockets of silence where we can root and grow. We must all hope we find them."
@cymbol73Ай бұрын
I think he's basically suggesting stoicism and stop childishly complaining. Pretty much just saying, "Grow up." 🤗
@user-xu6bv7yh2j
Ай бұрын
Always helpful to hear that from straight white men in America at this time in history - what originality! What insight! Never heard it before from someone like him! Astounding that he would have that perspective!
@johngonzalez5488Ай бұрын
I’m fulfilled doing things alone. I don’t need other peoples attention. Those are sheep that always need validation from groups of people. It’s like their goal is popularity and to please people around them
@tadijajokic5071Ай бұрын
Never clicked faster on a video in my life🙏🏻
@Mik.189
Ай бұрын
🙌🙌
@mikeflair6800Ай бұрын
Mine is financial investing / wealth creation. It is exciting and rewarding to me. I am 70 now. It has economically sustained me and others (10), and the 'longer I live', the more wealth I expect to attain. It is important to me (my purpose) to provide even after my death. I am meaningful, I am important, I am emphatic. That is all I need to keep my hope and health going. Action versus talk for me. FYI - I am not spoiling, but preparing for the 'huge cost of living in America' today and going forward. Might as well have the stock market help me, and my heirs...that is my plan, until the end.
@laprimaverrraАй бұрын
Here's my take on Tom's formula: pursuing and reaching a goal, especially one that you perceive as difficult but worthwhile, triggers the 'happy' hormone dopamine, but the caveat is that it's a game of diminishing returns and afterwards you need a bigger goal to feel the same way again. Getting respect produces a burst of serotonin, although the degree to which someone needs external validation of their skills and achievements depends on their personality type and how much value they place on external versus internal validation. Some people trust their own perception of their self-worth (negative or positive) over others' opinions, for various psychological reasons. There may sometimes be a link to the release of oxytocin, which is triggered when someone feels a social connection with the group (which the human brain may process as 'strength in numbers' and improved odds of survival). But there is no objective unit to measure 'fulfilment' in different people, so I think it just comes down to the subjective experience of 'happy chemicals' at a point in time. Here's a guest suggestion: Loretta Graziano Breuning, author of "Habits of a Happy Brain".
@James_36
Ай бұрын
so in the end they never get there and stay miserable their whole life... this is why ancient philosophy focuses on contentment
@Jindy2Ай бұрын
These guys absolutely nail it!
@vagabondcaleb8915Ай бұрын
It's really sad how stupid Tom's obsession with Musk is. It's like watching a teenager who is wants a graphing calculator he thinks will get the nerdy kids to be friends with him...
@la1930Ай бұрын
What I do understand is humanity is extremely ridiculous thx x.x out
@DihelsonMendoncaАй бұрын
💥 In life, the ultimate achievement, is the inner discovery of the self transcendent being, which is the fountain of all happiness and truth. Nothing that you achieve externally will give you everlasting joy. There's nothing to accomplish, but to live a life in which you discover what you really are. And when you remain in that state of consciousness, your joy is shared among others. You become a bright beacon to the world. ❤
@Maria-qn6feАй бұрын
Pride is the most tyrannical feeling for humanity,, release all those bad feelings to the Creator because you do not need them. He is a great God and can handle them all. Thank you Jesús
@hell-hollowfarmer41Ай бұрын
Franz Kafka, one of the most influential artists of the last 100 years or so never saw success in life and asked his friend to burn his manuscripts upon his death... fortunately the friend did not! Metamorphosis is so epic!!! Must read or listen to the audio book!!!
@kusali11Ай бұрын
RG clearly meditates.
@hide_and_go_sikhАй бұрын
Useful advise
@shipra08Ай бұрын
Nothing has to be hard. We believe unless we don't torture ourselves unless we don't challenge ourselves, we don't accomplish anything. What i think, it's just our belief system and social conditioning which makes us literally test ourselves, throw ourselves in choppy waters
@broutefoin
Ай бұрын
doing hard things is how you build credibility and respect with yourself and others, taking the easy road is seen as a sign of weakness for a reason, if you only chase easy goals, take easy wins, avoid struggle and discomfort, etc, then you are setting yourself up for catastrophic failure when you inevitably face adversity, strength and resilience are born from hardship, there is no other path to it.
@pentrubarbati
Ай бұрын
is not eassy to build a business or build a fit body ... easyy = average mediocre
@GP-lg6npАй бұрын
what Greene discusses is actually what is generally taught in the addiction fellowships (e.g, AA, NA, et al)
@GettingitrealАй бұрын
We are self-absorbed when we need belonging.
@LiamMackenzie-gl7nv5 күн бұрын
That was a really insightful video. I agree that true contentment comes from looking inward, not seeking validation from others. Most people are too afraid to be honest with themselves, so they distract themselves with external things. Much love to you both - keep up the great work! Hey, any chance you could bring Jarry Sargent Healer on your show? I think he'd have some really interesting perspectives to share.
@atorres11720Ай бұрын
Awesome
@yohan974728 күн бұрын
I love Robert and I love Tom but they are wrong. The issue is not in spending too much time inside ourselves or being too absorbed by our own thoughts. The problem is not listening to the 6 yo child in us. The problem is ignoring this child and resuming whatever life we have built. Built not on love and passion but on suffering and people's expectations. I'm very much aligned with the IFS system by Dick Schwartz. This being said, thank you Robert and Tom to give us very well researched opinion on how best to live our life's. Your work has monumentally helped me.
@korozsitamasАй бұрын
Inspired by the conversation: Fulfillment = (Difficulty+Passion−Energy Drain) × Skill Development × Contribution to Self and Others
@IAmTheEggMan111Ай бұрын
4:05 yes that’s why talk therapy is useless for most men. “So how do you feel about that?” I’d rather get a root canal than be subjected to weeks of naval gazing like that
@Visionary-cx5dw
Ай бұрын
Is it really useless, there are times whereby by talking the therapist makes you realize that your belief is not helping as a result of which the emotion too disappears away.
@NicholasMGlassonАй бұрын
If you spend all your time convincing yourself you are good, you will miss the time you could have spent becoming good at whatever craft, art or pursuit, such is the danger of desire.
@user-cc6jz7vn9fАй бұрын
Im confused who is the interviewer between Tom and Robert 🤔?
@unkelfaka6216Ай бұрын
Why is tom so hard to listen to?
@Inlinesk8rr
Ай бұрын
Perhaps its because you don't trust that some of his opinions aren't blinded by the ambitious side of his personality. Maybe it's because you see that a professed and overly opinionated expert in a field of study is often mistaken for supreme confidence and blinding them from other influences. There's value is what he and his guests have to say but only if you listen enough to extract what's yours and not focus on weather they all think they are a prophetic Jesus.
@mickywes3733
Ай бұрын
Self absorbed, the exact topic
@WaldorfStatlerАй бұрын
Agree. 63 YO, lived with depressions and borderline all my life. The victim perpective ties one up and has no meaning to me, maybe it feels fine for the therapist being ”nice” for its own sake..?
@JJColbАй бұрын
Oh no. I am seeing this go around lately. It may "suck" (not be appropriate or necessary) for some men, but for still many others, including myself, have found it instrumental in healing from my past.
@sephy980
Ай бұрын
I think talking about your problems can help if the therapist helps you confront and work to move past those issues. Unfortunately, oftentimes they will literally just have you talk about all the bad things in your life, without adequately addressing how to move past them. Therapy made me and many other men feel worse. We need action.
@JJColb
Ай бұрын
@@sephy980 thankfully, after shopping around, I found a therapist who challenged me, and it was effective. An effective therapist counts, too, for sure.
@karlstrauss2330Ай бұрын
I agree with Robert Greene 100 percent on this. Talking therapy is fine for women but for engaging an activity that goes beyond yourself is the ideal.
@AfricanTravellerChannel
Ай бұрын
It's not
@Sy8ro
Ай бұрын
Why is there different standards for women? I also haven’t had success with talk therapy because it doesn’t lead to any solutions or learning anything I don’t already know. So wouldnt action based therapy be better for both genders?
@gifi4
Ай бұрын
Simple biology. Men are creatures of action, women are creatures of pacifism. Both have their pros and cons, which is also why healthy relationships are beneficial for each partner's growth.@@Sy8ro
@karlstrauss2330
Ай бұрын
@@Sy8robecause men and women are different and have different standards. Women respond better to talking as a form of emotional catharsis.
@mewk4261
Ай бұрын
@@karlstrauss2330 like it
@rowanwilliams7441Ай бұрын
So... Personal fulfilment is the go? I'd agree with that if it is substantialy derived from helping others
@jrthrash0525Ай бұрын
God/Perfect Love is the answer and you cannot find it on this earth in the flesh
@D8099.Ай бұрын
Let’s play how to spot the narcissist😂. They start by asking a question then interrupt you answering only to fill in the blank themselves. In other words they don’t want to hear you they want to hear themselves
@korozsitamasАй бұрын
Tom Bilyeu was surprised about talk therapy's ineffectiveness, but Tony Robbins in his book "Unlimited Power" actually says the same: that reliving negative emotions puts us into an unresourceful state, which is counter-productive. I was surprised about this as well.
@Tninja17Ай бұрын
I get how people hate him talking too much on his podcasts and it's annoying. The way I see it though is Tom seems like an introspective guy and he processes his intuition outwards, so his interviewee can comment on it. He has spent long hours talking to many different smart people, and as he speaks about his experience and take on things, we can see that he's trying to wrestle and align his values with what everyone has to say by projecting it out.
@Corn_DOGАй бұрын
So I should be more like my grandfather who was a functional alcoholic and died in his 50s? He never complained he just quietly killed himself... if no one speaks up nothing is fixed
@hadtosaythis
Ай бұрын
no you should move on. put the backpack down instead of using alcohol to deal with the backpain caused by carrying the past around. i spent years as a functional alcoholic. doesnt work very well.
@davjdprjceАй бұрын
unwatchable host needs to realize his role is to speak as little as possible and never interrupt
@howbouttht22
9 күн бұрын
I disagree.
@IdeeFixeGamerАй бұрын
Can you please ask about repressed emotions
@getenlightenedАй бұрын
Musk isn't above you. And I betcha you're a much happier person. Thanks for keepin' it real.
@dantenewyork7380Ай бұрын
are we built for empathy? i certainly do not see this across all facets in my life.
@James_36
Ай бұрын
these people talk in bubble of fake reality... you only need to walk around and see how nobody interacts and what lack of society there is. There used to be a concept called mingling when I was younger, that has all gone now with social media ruining everything.
@user-wy6lb7po1nАй бұрын
So, A+B+C+D+E= F got it, thx Tom!
@zelbarnapАй бұрын
Read the book, become who you are by Ryan bush
@Nancy-cm1rhАй бұрын
Mr. Greene))))
@dogma7911Ай бұрын
Why doesn't he just ask himself questions and answer them himself, instead of bringing in experts in their field to listen to him talk?
@andre1987ephАй бұрын
Therapy is good for depression and anxiety.
@fitcoachmarshall4310Ай бұрын
In order to survive in late adulthood with that neurological functioning, it would require suffering it your entire life. Learning to live with it or let it eat you up. You don’t know what you ask for.
@corvettemoonboy589Ай бұрын
Fulfillment comes within. Tom, read the Tao Te Ching and interview Eckhart Tolle.
@jb9433
Ай бұрын
Would they get a word in edgeways?
@anniebennett5386Ай бұрын
Describing ineffective psychotherapy is really unhelpful. An experienced therapist does not remain focused on the wounds of the past but acknowledges them in order that the client gain broader perspective and initiate changes the client deems important to them.
@USmetallist
Ай бұрын
Ahhh But while striving for perfection succumbing to FAILURE of not fixing even the "low hanging fruit" fallacies
@kcchiefsproductions8687
Ай бұрын
Or maybe it's different for different people, I've been to therapy, and it doesn't help me. I have found other ways of dealing with the way I feel.
@dieselhound84
Ай бұрын
You're a grifter psychologist who profits from human distinction and self absorbed Miserables.
@michaeldelaney6256
Ай бұрын
ok pumpkin
@Professor_Greenleaf
Ай бұрын
@@kcchiefsproductions8687 I understand where your position comes from. There’re different kinds of therapists out there. I’ve worked with people like yourself who never thought therapy could work for them. I don’t create a space for clients to talk about their problems. I create a space for clients to observe their minds and become at peace within themselves.
@acfitweightlossАй бұрын
why do hosts always act so weird when Robert Greene comes on
@chadlehman2599Ай бұрын
Tom gets his guests talking....then interrupts and goes on a monologue. ????
@TheCentristChadАй бұрын
I started psychoanalyzing everyone I know a few years ago. Everyone I diagnosed ended up being bipolar or Autistic/ADHD 😂
@dr.badass702Ай бұрын
Making art is its own reward. Selfish, I guess, but many artists are fulfilled painting or writing in isolation - it’s a personality type, I think. If you think too much about making your art “serve the greater good”, I think you end up creating moralistic crap, by and large
@Cloven137
Ай бұрын
Yeah... Who in their right mind makes art for other people? That might very well be what it's for, but I don't think that's where the majority of the satisfaction comes from. I've experienced way more satisfaction just making things than I have sharing them. Yeah, it sucks when nobody cares, but the fulfillment of praise, popularity or even deep connections with people, doesn't compare to the fulfillment of making things.
@hide_and_go_sikhАй бұрын
11:30, what about me?
@MH-53EАй бұрын
Tom, it's not like psychologists have this great record of really helping people by talking. It may feel better for a short time but if one has really bad problems...its off to the psychiatrist. Not bad,but not good either.
@swisscheese412Ай бұрын
I'm Happy to be myself. I Don't want to be a social autist
@la1930Ай бұрын
Book: CHILDREN OF TIME
@renatosureal28 күн бұрын
Personal fulfillment HAS NOTHING, NOTHING to do with .. "group", "community".
@ODENMUSICCHANNELАй бұрын
“If I could snap my fingers, I’d be Elon Musk”. What a sad sentence.
@SeekerAppleSwordSerpentАй бұрын
Why does Bilyo have so many subscribers.
@NJ752Ай бұрын
Tom … when are you bringing Elon Musk ?
@cfamickАй бұрын
Imagine going to a doctor and hearing "You have diabetes." You: "Okay, what am I supposed to do about that?" Him: "You're not supposed to do anything." You: "How do other people treat diabetes?" Him: "Don't compare yourself to other people." You: ...... Him: "You're caught in a spiral of diabetes!" That's been my experience with therapy.
@tomwalker948Ай бұрын
Tom love your videos but Helen Musk he is just a salesman (albeit very good one) he hasnt got a clue about engineering
@hadtosaythis
Ай бұрын
with a string of failed romantic relationships.
@user-uo9cy2ep2hАй бұрын
Work is stressful. I'm unfulfilled and it's going away because people are being taught my profession on KZread. I am no longer needed in the group. 35 years of adulthood and every fucking day has sucked, is unfulfilling and no point.
@michaelderoy2759
Ай бұрын
What is your profession? I'm sad to know that you have difficult time in the workplace. I hope you will find meaning in life and be able to find a way to support yourself.
@juliansanchez3143Ай бұрын
I love Robert Greene, but as a psychoanalytically oriented therapist, I disagree with his statements about psychotherapy. The goal of ALL psychotherapies is to create ego strength/mentalization. Especially the CBT based therapies. The whole point of psychoanalysis was the create a stronger, self-observing ego. To be less self-absorbed and have a healthier understanding of oneself and others. I can’t believe my man missed that 😂
@Gromov-jj8jf
Ай бұрын
Psychoanalysis is pseudoscience. Maybe learn some more scientifically valid alternatives.
@ardhanariswaraАй бұрын
Tesla was targeted and his inventions suppressed because he threatened the control of companies profiting from old technologies. His laboratory was burned down to this end and he was rubbished with propaganda against home. This caused his sadness and failure in the end.
@Hellooooooo98929 күн бұрын
Sounds like the “advice” of an avoidant attachment pattern at risk for a panic attack. The me generation experienced more stay at home mothers in a reality where a high school diploma could get a decent job to support a one income household. This wasn’t the reality of millennial and Z childhoods. And most importantly, it wasn’t the reality we experienced during early childhood. Thus, it’s not just a theory to think insecure attachment creates adult attachment issues; MRIs demonstrate a noticeable impact on our HPA axis and amygdala.
@bradrandel1408Ай бұрын
Yeah, this host is a tool. I cannot watch him. I like his guest, interrupting what a brilliantly, humble man that he is interviewing. 🕊🦋🌹
@KingHackR1ofAnonymousАй бұрын
Your video Is reality real the answer-I will give you a hint remember Jesus said that if you can see the smallest thing you would see God. Now Let me give you a hint. If you dream you create a world you are living in. You can not hold it together long enough to live a life time in. But think you have the power of the mind of God you could create the world and create everything in it and you create the other people in the dream, but unlike you the other beings are a part of you even though the thinking they do is not the dream creation it is a part of you in them, now you have the basic answer.
@vickyallen4566Ай бұрын
The interviewer loves to hear himself talk. opposite of Joe Rogan. And FYI, the Bible has been saying all this truth for thousands of years. Just accept it: Jesus was God. The rest makes sense after admitting that. But no, you don't want to submit to a Creator God, so you "intellectuals" will keep contradicting, then agreeing with each other over the decades.
@eyob4794Ай бұрын
3:48 , psychiatric industry is based around this & is the main reason why it doesn’t work & never will. Grifting industry
@jrthrash0525Ай бұрын
Go forgive your mothers and your fathers (to their face) and God, our Father in Heaven will forgive you and you will be fulfilled.
@lukeserrano62Ай бұрын
Ikigai. It’s not a new concept.
@PotatoPCFishingBoomerDudeАй бұрын
Men need purpose. That's all. All the other stuff is just rhetoric from college educated peeps with clean fingernails.
@jacktesmer5068
Ай бұрын
Men need purpose but if they were abused growing up they're bound to recreate that environment for there kids if unacknowledged
@robertstan2349Ай бұрын
you wanna be like elon? just take a significant portion of your net worth and flush it down the toilet of some dumb social media app. done
@toddlabbe3973Ай бұрын
The criticism he makes about talk therapy is not how talk therapy works. Lol it's a fairly typical advice by people who make their money off giving advice. "Don't take their professional advice mine ia better"
@harrueАй бұрын
Lol
@nickhowarthifyАй бұрын
This guy has talk therapy all wrong.
@motorcyclegordy2078Ай бұрын
Yeah, first time listening. Not a fan of Tom
@DurtyCardiologistАй бұрын
God....Bilyeu is so fkn annoying
@freeman436Ай бұрын
bingo. get over yourself.
@Sy8roАй бұрын
The issue with men is that they don’t naturally have as much introspective insight, intuition, or social intelligence to truly know themselves. Men struggle to connect the dots consciously to understand their subconscious mind. A lot of it comes from not believing in their ability to feel or their right to feel. So yes, talk therapy would help men understand themselves to then continue going forward successfully in the physical world. Ignoring yourself doesn’t help anyone.
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Let the man talk - you care too much about displaying YOUR intelligence/wisdom.
@jonathandavis9507
Ай бұрын
He wants to be Elon Musk, tho. 😂
@renatosureal
28 күн бұрын
exactly
Bro watched for 3 minutes and you interrupted Robert several times
@Leto2ndAtreides
24 күн бұрын
That's more an issue with conflicting conversational styles. Similar to the problem that happens with many women who aren't good at interrupting or holding attention in a conversation. Guys often want accelerated conversations if they're interested, and letting people just talk (when you roughly know what they're saying) takes too long.
I hate that Tom keeps interrupting Robert. Clicking off now.
@whatsgood22022
Ай бұрын
It’s because Tom has a massive ego and lacks self awareness
@michaelbodine9240
Ай бұрын
Because Tom thinks he knows it all!
@dr.badass702
Ай бұрын
He’s insufferable
Bilyeu always likes to hear himself talk lol
@hunterhemingway
Ай бұрын
May be true. But speaking something you’ve just heard/learned back to a person or out loud allows for you to ensure comprehension.
@MrBlister808
Ай бұрын
Yes, paraphrasing back to the speaker what you've just heard them say shows them that you are actively listening.
@evan3087
Ай бұрын
😂 oh yes, he does. That’s the whole reason why he continues this chat show. Also, he loves it when he can match up with the guest on some topics
@Kdnjim
Ай бұрын
lol I don’t really view it that way. I’m respectfully curious about who views it this way. I find that people who usually make these comments are the ones who are almost the opposite, maybe somewhat introverted and maybe cautious of their own voice. Does that hit a note or no?
@403holbrook8
20 күн бұрын
That’s why he has 4 million followers…..he is worth listening to
I think Robert is alluding to a victim mindset, the problem with therapy is a therapist is incentivized to not get you fully better, they'll have you talk in circles if you want. For me its helped me understand how to process and absorb emotions more appropriately, and how to understand and express my needs in a more direct and capable manner. I was raised in a household with poor communication and a constant unsafe feeling. Moving into adulthood has been an extremely painful process which personal work alongside therapy helped me a lot through.
@CuriousCattery
Ай бұрын
I totally agree. 'Bad Therapy' by Abigail Shrier shows how damaging it can be to tell someone they have PTSD or Clinical Depression for life. Instead, focusing on resilience and growth can help them come out stronger. That being said just like with mechanics, not all therapists are the same. Some really help, while others might make things worse creating a dependency.
@user-xu6bv7yh2j
Ай бұрын
robert doesn't understand math
@pierrecohenmusic
Ай бұрын
I agree. I think he’s talking about being more observant of our thoughts rather than being a victim to them. For example, observing when negative thought patterns occur and being able to identify them and re-shift our focus away from them.
I feel this is the lesson I'm failing to grasp right now. The constant rumination upon the negative is what I'm seeking to overcome.
@hungrymusicwolf
Ай бұрын
I'm right there with you but just one step further, so I need to warn you: trying to not ruminate is also a form of being stuck inside your own mind. Just get outside and do something, talk something, pursue something you like. No matter how small set your mind to something and do it. If you want to write a story even a single sentence for a day is great step forward, or if you want to get better at building something getting just one nail into the thing on the day is good. Just make sure to try your best for that day.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
Ай бұрын
It's not you.. It's him.
This is so true. Our culture and society has become the "I'm offended" era. This is a self digesting fate.
@Sy8ro
Ай бұрын
Opposed to the “suck it up and deal with it” era? So you’d rather be the person who gets disrespected and not have the balls to stand up for yourself?
@Daimajin696
Ай бұрын
I'm offended!@@Sy8ro
@DefactoDissident
Ай бұрын
@@Sy8ro You need boundaries (which people mistake for balance). It ain't worth the trouble to trip over a rock and stomp it to dust. The thing is when it becomes an auto pilot, you're just running on impulse
@DefactoDissident
Ай бұрын
That's a change people need to acknowledge, and it can be good or bad on how we're adjusted. In an overwhelmingly traditional society people self-blame which isn't consciously viable.
@jb9433
Ай бұрын
@@Sy8ro I think you are confused. It's what you are offended about. The self-absorbed feel they are entitled to everything and offence is more important than free speech.
As a therapist, I resonate with the views of Robert Greene on the matter. Discussing our thoughts and emotions solely reaffirms the internal conflict, highlighting the struggle between the self-the "I" or "me"-and its efforts to manage or control its thoughts. This illustrates self-absorption, where one part of our psyche dominates, the "I", endeavoring to suppress other elements such as unwelcome thoughts, memories, and emotions. This dominance leads to a fragmented and conflicted mind, devoid of peace or tranquility. Insight into the unity of the observer (me) and the observed (my thoughts and feelings), a concept echoed in Krishnamurti's discourses, can dissolve this inner conflict. Liberation from incessant thinking is achieved through the simple act of observing one's thoughts. The essence of this observation transcends mere contemplation about one’s thoughts; it is an absence of thought altogether. It is akin to gazing at the distant ocean horizon without the interference of thought-pure, attentive observation. This state of awareness constitutes genuine meditation.
@johnrenner7645
Ай бұрын
If spiders could speak they would be therapists and their web would be their words.
@la1930
Ай бұрын
Book: children of time
@andrewvanoort8539
Ай бұрын
Verbal ventilation is also not so far removed from rumination; talk about it enough to bring light to buried feelings, but not so much as to constantly dwell I think
From a psychologist perspective, it’s extremely important to note that the practice of psychotherapy is culture specific.
@doctoruttley
Ай бұрын
100%
@elektrablacksky
Ай бұрын
Can you explain that
@MrBlister808
Ай бұрын
Agreed; what the permissible parameters are, or goals, make an incredible difference to practice. And results.
@clinicalconsultingcenters3240
Ай бұрын
Mr Greene makes reference to a “philosopher/mentor” from Russia who believes that it’s better to keep feelings and thoughts inside, unspoken. Of course, in Russia, a communist country with a tyrannical dictator of a man speaks he will end up in prison. Furthermore, he doesn’t realize that part of what contributes to the decline in the role of men in western society is the lack of guidance for men. Boys are growing up in single parents homes with the absence of fathers. Moreover, Mr Greene’s weak verbosity is also irresponsible not taking account that many people’s lives depend on psychotherapy.
@123prestolee
Ай бұрын
IQ?
Robert Greene has incredible insights. His take on self-absorption is right on, and a big problem of mine.
@elmerbeltshire7599
Ай бұрын
Robert Greene is an extremely dangerous center of cultural influence. He plays victim and somehow his multitude of bosses were the all bad ones when he clearly was the common denominator who 'deserved' better. He outlines how to use unethical behavior to overcome 'bad people' and then claims he's not promoting those behaviors. Look at his life, nothing he has done shines as a person who has given back to society, all fingers point towards covert narcissism. His teaching fester evil and promote falls hopes by stirring division in response to perceived tyranny. He's a very evil man with a false sense of meekness, his underpinnings are wrought with destructive teachings with a clear path to the elimination of the interweaving's of a healthy society. Wake up people!
Therapy can be bad/ therapy can be good when you leave u think about things!!!! ( In a good way/ in a bad way.) 😮 Mr. Green is right on......😊 .
I think artists and scientists whose laudable work goes unrecognized until after their death demonstrate the highest form of character. Their sacrifice demonstrates a level of faith few have. With such personal achievements comes a deeper satisfaction and intimacy with our creator when we are being who we are designed to be. And, such enduring works should take on a meaning greater than fleeting whims of ‘happiness’. Having children is another expression of this principle. Dignity resonates in the execution of it all.
@wendywilson18
Ай бұрын
@williamvonschenk2273 Well said, and very good points you make about character and faith. No life is easy, but some lives do end up being more meaningful than others, in hind-sight...Often hind-sight is the clearest vision to have when we look from present-sight.
@guillaumekeulen219
24 күн бұрын
I think Nietzsche Kafka the hobo from Nazareth!
Never been a people person...I don't need or want group or individual attention. Contentment is the goal, look inside, alone, not to another person. Most of us can't be honest with ourselves so we prefer distractions. Much love to both of you, thank you.❤❤
Totally agree with Robert Greene on therapy. I grew more through working out and boxing for 3 months than 10+ years of therapy talking about abuse. Putting the anger of missed opportunities to the bag did more for me than being absorbed talking about my problems in therapy.
@user-xu6bv7yh2j
Ай бұрын
is it possible that people are different? What works for one, doesn't for another? Is it possible this asshole is just selling books like everyone else?
That’s very true for me. Talking about my feelings and my problems makes more frustrated. I absolutely hate being asked “what’s wrong “.
This is true. I took a job in 1981 right out High School going into Telecommunications field. Before I took the job I didn’t know how to do anything. I’ve been doing it now for 43 years and I enjoy it and like helping people at work socializing with my fellow co workers. I am 61 years old now and I’m starting to think of retirement. I have about another 6 years to go but I am not sure how I am going to feel once I do retire.
I like Tom sharing his insights about his observation and experience
Tesla might have died sad and lonely, but he had a lot a affirmation from his society along the way and, I imagine, a lot of fulfilment. Just imagine the fulfillment of inventing something and seeing it works! Same with all great works of art - the creator knew it was great before society made up its mind one way or another - there's no reason for us to pity great artists who never lived to be called great - they knew. Rather pity the mediocrity who was lauded by his society but knew in his heart of hearts that he had failed.
@mattsparks5957
Ай бұрын
Im dieing sad and lonley
I have to agree with the guest this time. I do enjoy that flow and though my art might not ever grace museums, it makes no difference to me because it serves a wonderful purpose of intellectual exercise for myself. And I do feel that a lot of artists today get away from that. But I don't expect anything. To quote Mark Rothco, to illustrate my point." "When I was a younger man, art was a lonely thing. No galleries, no collectors, no critics, no money. Yet, it was a golden age, for we all had nothing to lose and a vision to gain. Today it is not quite the same. It is a time of tons of verbiage, activity, consumption. Which condition is better for the world at large I shall not venture to discuss. But I do know, that many of those who are driven to this life are desperately searching for those pockets of silence where we can root and grow. We must all hope we find them."
I think he's basically suggesting stoicism and stop childishly complaining. Pretty much just saying, "Grow up." 🤗
@user-xu6bv7yh2j
Ай бұрын
Always helpful to hear that from straight white men in America at this time in history - what originality! What insight! Never heard it before from someone like him! Astounding that he would have that perspective!
I’m fulfilled doing things alone. I don’t need other peoples attention. Those are sheep that always need validation from groups of people. It’s like their goal is popularity and to please people around them
Never clicked faster on a video in my life🙏🏻
@Mik.189
Ай бұрын
🙌🙌
Mine is financial investing / wealth creation. It is exciting and rewarding to me. I am 70 now. It has economically sustained me and others (10), and the 'longer I live', the more wealth I expect to attain. It is important to me (my purpose) to provide even after my death. I am meaningful, I am important, I am emphatic. That is all I need to keep my hope and health going. Action versus talk for me. FYI - I am not spoiling, but preparing for the 'huge cost of living in America' today and going forward. Might as well have the stock market help me, and my heirs...that is my plan, until the end.
Here's my take on Tom's formula: pursuing and reaching a goal, especially one that you perceive as difficult but worthwhile, triggers the 'happy' hormone dopamine, but the caveat is that it's a game of diminishing returns and afterwards you need a bigger goal to feel the same way again. Getting respect produces a burst of serotonin, although the degree to which someone needs external validation of their skills and achievements depends on their personality type and how much value they place on external versus internal validation. Some people trust their own perception of their self-worth (negative or positive) over others' opinions, for various psychological reasons. There may sometimes be a link to the release of oxytocin, which is triggered when someone feels a social connection with the group (which the human brain may process as 'strength in numbers' and improved odds of survival). But there is no objective unit to measure 'fulfilment' in different people, so I think it just comes down to the subjective experience of 'happy chemicals' at a point in time. Here's a guest suggestion: Loretta Graziano Breuning, author of "Habits of a Happy Brain".
@James_36
Ай бұрын
so in the end they never get there and stay miserable their whole life... this is why ancient philosophy focuses on contentment
These guys absolutely nail it!
It's really sad how stupid Tom's obsession with Musk is. It's like watching a teenager who is wants a graphing calculator he thinks will get the nerdy kids to be friends with him...
What I do understand is humanity is extremely ridiculous thx x.x out
💥 In life, the ultimate achievement, is the inner discovery of the self transcendent being, which is the fountain of all happiness and truth. Nothing that you achieve externally will give you everlasting joy. There's nothing to accomplish, but to live a life in which you discover what you really are. And when you remain in that state of consciousness, your joy is shared among others. You become a bright beacon to the world. ❤
Pride is the most tyrannical feeling for humanity,, release all those bad feelings to the Creator because you do not need them. He is a great God and can handle them all. Thank you Jesús
Franz Kafka, one of the most influential artists of the last 100 years or so never saw success in life and asked his friend to burn his manuscripts upon his death... fortunately the friend did not! Metamorphosis is so epic!!! Must read or listen to the audio book!!!
RG clearly meditates.
Useful advise
Nothing has to be hard. We believe unless we don't torture ourselves unless we don't challenge ourselves, we don't accomplish anything. What i think, it's just our belief system and social conditioning which makes us literally test ourselves, throw ourselves in choppy waters
@broutefoin
Ай бұрын
doing hard things is how you build credibility and respect with yourself and others, taking the easy road is seen as a sign of weakness for a reason, if you only chase easy goals, take easy wins, avoid struggle and discomfort, etc, then you are setting yourself up for catastrophic failure when you inevitably face adversity, strength and resilience are born from hardship, there is no other path to it.
@pentrubarbati
Ай бұрын
is not eassy to build a business or build a fit body ... easyy = average mediocre
what Greene discusses is actually what is generally taught in the addiction fellowships (e.g, AA, NA, et al)
We are self-absorbed when we need belonging.
That was a really insightful video. I agree that true contentment comes from looking inward, not seeking validation from others. Most people are too afraid to be honest with themselves, so they distract themselves with external things. Much love to you both - keep up the great work! Hey, any chance you could bring Jarry Sargent Healer on your show? I think he'd have some really interesting perspectives to share.
Awesome
I love Robert and I love Tom but they are wrong. The issue is not in spending too much time inside ourselves or being too absorbed by our own thoughts. The problem is not listening to the 6 yo child in us. The problem is ignoring this child and resuming whatever life we have built. Built not on love and passion but on suffering and people's expectations. I'm very much aligned with the IFS system by Dick Schwartz. This being said, thank you Robert and Tom to give us very well researched opinion on how best to live our life's. Your work has monumentally helped me.
Inspired by the conversation: Fulfillment = (Difficulty+Passion−Energy Drain) × Skill Development × Contribution to Self and Others
4:05 yes that’s why talk therapy is useless for most men. “So how do you feel about that?” I’d rather get a root canal than be subjected to weeks of naval gazing like that
@Visionary-cx5dw
Ай бұрын
Is it really useless, there are times whereby by talking the therapist makes you realize that your belief is not helping as a result of which the emotion too disappears away.
If you spend all your time convincing yourself you are good, you will miss the time you could have spent becoming good at whatever craft, art or pursuit, such is the danger of desire.
Im confused who is the interviewer between Tom and Robert 🤔?
Why is tom so hard to listen to?
@Inlinesk8rr
Ай бұрын
Perhaps its because you don't trust that some of his opinions aren't blinded by the ambitious side of his personality. Maybe it's because you see that a professed and overly opinionated expert in a field of study is often mistaken for supreme confidence and blinding them from other influences. There's value is what he and his guests have to say but only if you listen enough to extract what's yours and not focus on weather they all think they are a prophetic Jesus.
@mickywes3733
Ай бұрын
Self absorbed, the exact topic
Agree. 63 YO, lived with depressions and borderline all my life. The victim perpective ties one up and has no meaning to me, maybe it feels fine for the therapist being ”nice” for its own sake..?
Oh no. I am seeing this go around lately. It may "suck" (not be appropriate or necessary) for some men, but for still many others, including myself, have found it instrumental in healing from my past.
@sephy980
Ай бұрын
I think talking about your problems can help if the therapist helps you confront and work to move past those issues. Unfortunately, oftentimes they will literally just have you talk about all the bad things in your life, without adequately addressing how to move past them. Therapy made me and many other men feel worse. We need action.
@JJColb
Ай бұрын
@@sephy980 thankfully, after shopping around, I found a therapist who challenged me, and it was effective. An effective therapist counts, too, for sure.
I agree with Robert Greene 100 percent on this. Talking therapy is fine for women but for engaging an activity that goes beyond yourself is the ideal.
@AfricanTravellerChannel
Ай бұрын
It's not
@Sy8ro
Ай бұрын
Why is there different standards for women? I also haven’t had success with talk therapy because it doesn’t lead to any solutions or learning anything I don’t already know. So wouldnt action based therapy be better for both genders?
@gifi4
Ай бұрын
Simple biology. Men are creatures of action, women are creatures of pacifism. Both have their pros and cons, which is also why healthy relationships are beneficial for each partner's growth.@@Sy8ro
@karlstrauss2330
Ай бұрын
@@Sy8robecause men and women are different and have different standards. Women respond better to talking as a form of emotional catharsis.
@mewk4261
Ай бұрын
@@karlstrauss2330 like it
So... Personal fulfilment is the go? I'd agree with that if it is substantialy derived from helping others
God/Perfect Love is the answer and you cannot find it on this earth in the flesh
Let’s play how to spot the narcissist😂. They start by asking a question then interrupt you answering only to fill in the blank themselves. In other words they don’t want to hear you they want to hear themselves
Tom Bilyeu was surprised about talk therapy's ineffectiveness, but Tony Robbins in his book "Unlimited Power" actually says the same: that reliving negative emotions puts us into an unresourceful state, which is counter-productive. I was surprised about this as well.
I get how people hate him talking too much on his podcasts and it's annoying. The way I see it though is Tom seems like an introspective guy and he processes his intuition outwards, so his interviewee can comment on it. He has spent long hours talking to many different smart people, and as he speaks about his experience and take on things, we can see that he's trying to wrestle and align his values with what everyone has to say by projecting it out.
So I should be more like my grandfather who was a functional alcoholic and died in his 50s? He never complained he just quietly killed himself... if no one speaks up nothing is fixed
@hadtosaythis
Ай бұрын
no you should move on. put the backpack down instead of using alcohol to deal with the backpain caused by carrying the past around. i spent years as a functional alcoholic. doesnt work very well.
unwatchable host needs to realize his role is to speak as little as possible and never interrupt
@howbouttht22
9 күн бұрын
I disagree.
Can you please ask about repressed emotions
Musk isn't above you. And I betcha you're a much happier person. Thanks for keepin' it real.
are we built for empathy? i certainly do not see this across all facets in my life.
@James_36
Ай бұрын
these people talk in bubble of fake reality... you only need to walk around and see how nobody interacts and what lack of society there is. There used to be a concept called mingling when I was younger, that has all gone now with social media ruining everything.
So, A+B+C+D+E= F got it, thx Tom!
Read the book, become who you are by Ryan bush
Mr. Greene))))
Why doesn't he just ask himself questions and answer them himself, instead of bringing in experts in their field to listen to him talk?
Therapy is good for depression and anxiety.
In order to survive in late adulthood with that neurological functioning, it would require suffering it your entire life. Learning to live with it or let it eat you up. You don’t know what you ask for.
Fulfillment comes within. Tom, read the Tao Te Ching and interview Eckhart Tolle.
@jb9433
Ай бұрын
Would they get a word in edgeways?
Describing ineffective psychotherapy is really unhelpful. An experienced therapist does not remain focused on the wounds of the past but acknowledges them in order that the client gain broader perspective and initiate changes the client deems important to them.
@USmetallist
Ай бұрын
Ahhh But while striving for perfection succumbing to FAILURE of not fixing even the "low hanging fruit" fallacies
@kcchiefsproductions8687
Ай бұрын
Or maybe it's different for different people, I've been to therapy, and it doesn't help me. I have found other ways of dealing with the way I feel.
@dieselhound84
Ай бұрын
You're a grifter psychologist who profits from human distinction and self absorbed Miserables.
@michaeldelaney6256
Ай бұрын
ok pumpkin
@Professor_Greenleaf
Ай бұрын
@@kcchiefsproductions8687 I understand where your position comes from. There’re different kinds of therapists out there. I’ve worked with people like yourself who never thought therapy could work for them. I don’t create a space for clients to talk about their problems. I create a space for clients to observe their minds and become at peace within themselves.
why do hosts always act so weird when Robert Greene comes on
Tom gets his guests talking....then interrupts and goes on a monologue. ????
I started psychoanalyzing everyone I know a few years ago. Everyone I diagnosed ended up being bipolar or Autistic/ADHD 😂
Making art is its own reward. Selfish, I guess, but many artists are fulfilled painting or writing in isolation - it’s a personality type, I think. If you think too much about making your art “serve the greater good”, I think you end up creating moralistic crap, by and large
@Cloven137
Ай бұрын
Yeah... Who in their right mind makes art for other people? That might very well be what it's for, but I don't think that's where the majority of the satisfaction comes from. I've experienced way more satisfaction just making things than I have sharing them. Yeah, it sucks when nobody cares, but the fulfillment of praise, popularity or even deep connections with people, doesn't compare to the fulfillment of making things.
11:30, what about me?
Tom, it's not like psychologists have this great record of really helping people by talking. It may feel better for a short time but if one has really bad problems...its off to the psychiatrist. Not bad,but not good either.
I'm Happy to be myself. I Don't want to be a social autist
Book: CHILDREN OF TIME
Personal fulfillment HAS NOTHING, NOTHING to do with .. "group", "community".
“If I could snap my fingers, I’d be Elon Musk”. What a sad sentence.
Why does Bilyo have so many subscribers.
Tom … when are you bringing Elon Musk ?
Imagine going to a doctor and hearing "You have diabetes." You: "Okay, what am I supposed to do about that?" Him: "You're not supposed to do anything." You: "How do other people treat diabetes?" Him: "Don't compare yourself to other people." You: ...... Him: "You're caught in a spiral of diabetes!" That's been my experience with therapy.
Tom love your videos but Helen Musk he is just a salesman (albeit very good one) he hasnt got a clue about engineering
@hadtosaythis
Ай бұрын
with a string of failed romantic relationships.
Work is stressful. I'm unfulfilled and it's going away because people are being taught my profession on KZread. I am no longer needed in the group. 35 years of adulthood and every fucking day has sucked, is unfulfilling and no point.
@michaelderoy2759
Ай бұрын
What is your profession? I'm sad to know that you have difficult time in the workplace. I hope you will find meaning in life and be able to find a way to support yourself.
I love Robert Greene, but as a psychoanalytically oriented therapist, I disagree with his statements about psychotherapy. The goal of ALL psychotherapies is to create ego strength/mentalization. Especially the CBT based therapies. The whole point of psychoanalysis was the create a stronger, self-observing ego. To be less self-absorbed and have a healthier understanding of oneself and others. I can’t believe my man missed that 😂
@Gromov-jj8jf
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Psychoanalysis is pseudoscience. Maybe learn some more scientifically valid alternatives.
Tesla was targeted and his inventions suppressed because he threatened the control of companies profiting from old technologies. His laboratory was burned down to this end and he was rubbished with propaganda against home. This caused his sadness and failure in the end.
Sounds like the “advice” of an avoidant attachment pattern at risk for a panic attack. The me generation experienced more stay at home mothers in a reality where a high school diploma could get a decent job to support a one income household. This wasn’t the reality of millennial and Z childhoods. And most importantly, it wasn’t the reality we experienced during early childhood. Thus, it’s not just a theory to think insecure attachment creates adult attachment issues; MRIs demonstrate a noticeable impact on our HPA axis and amygdala.
Yeah, this host is a tool. I cannot watch him. I like his guest, interrupting what a brilliantly, humble man that he is interviewing. 🕊🦋🌹
Your video Is reality real the answer-I will give you a hint remember Jesus said that if you can see the smallest thing you would see God. Now Let me give you a hint. If you dream you create a world you are living in. You can not hold it together long enough to live a life time in. But think you have the power of the mind of God you could create the world and create everything in it and you create the other people in the dream, but unlike you the other beings are a part of you even though the thinking they do is not the dream creation it is a part of you in them, now you have the basic answer.
The interviewer loves to hear himself talk. opposite of Joe Rogan. And FYI, the Bible has been saying all this truth for thousands of years. Just accept it: Jesus was God. The rest makes sense after admitting that. But no, you don't want to submit to a Creator God, so you "intellectuals" will keep contradicting, then agreeing with each other over the decades.
3:48 , psychiatric industry is based around this & is the main reason why it doesn’t work & never will. Grifting industry
Go forgive your mothers and your fathers (to their face) and God, our Father in Heaven will forgive you and you will be fulfilled.
Ikigai. It’s not a new concept.
Men need purpose. That's all. All the other stuff is just rhetoric from college educated peeps with clean fingernails.
@jacktesmer5068
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Men need purpose but if they were abused growing up they're bound to recreate that environment for there kids if unacknowledged
you wanna be like elon? just take a significant portion of your net worth and flush it down the toilet of some dumb social media app. done
The criticism he makes about talk therapy is not how talk therapy works. Lol it's a fairly typical advice by people who make their money off giving advice. "Don't take their professional advice mine ia better"
Lol
This guy has talk therapy all wrong.
Yeah, first time listening. Not a fan of Tom
God....Bilyeu is so fkn annoying
bingo. get over yourself.
The issue with men is that they don’t naturally have as much introspective insight, intuition, or social intelligence to truly know themselves. Men struggle to connect the dots consciously to understand their subconscious mind. A lot of it comes from not believing in their ability to feel or their right to feel. So yes, talk therapy would help men understand themselves to then continue going forward successfully in the physical world. Ignoring yourself doesn’t help anyone.