This is Why Sunglasses Are So Important | Knock Knock Eye
This week on Knock Knock Eye, Will talks about his love / hate relationship with Twitter (now X) and the misinformation that is spewed on it, before getting into the main topic today, Ocular Melanoma and how it affects the inside of your eye.
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You know what the Romans called the sun? Sol Invictus, literally meaning "The Unconquered Sun" or "The Invincible Sun". You can't beat the sun. Wear your sunscreen.
“Should we have Australia come talk to these people about sunscreen?” They already are! Michelle at Lab Muffin Beauty Science (Aussie and cosmetic chemist) has been doing sunscreen misinformation debunking since forever. Highly rec her channel.
@JohnSmith-mc2zz
5 ай бұрын
Does she also go by Sisyphus
South African here! Sunscreen, hats, sunglasses are a must.
@tamarinmangold1414
5 ай бұрын
Hello, fellow South African! 👋 🇿🇦😁 Agree 100%!
I think a related 'tip of the week' on this topic is the importance of wearing a proper mask when welding. Not just to protect from mechanical damage, but from the enormous amounts of UV that is generated when welding. It's not just UV-A and UV-B, but UV-C you're being exposed to (the latter is mostly filtered out in nature by our atmosphere). The number of people who just shut their eyes and turn away a little bit when welding is crazy!
@Delightedly
5 ай бұрын
I work with a micro-TIG welder and I am desperately trying to get everyone wearing gloves while working to protect from the UV. The distance between the skin to the arc is literally millimeters.
A coworkers father died from melanoma IN his eye. He worked outside and did not wear sunglasses. Another co-worker's cousin died from melanoma on her back. She never knew it was there until it became a wound. She never used sunscreen, but couldn't reach back there anyway.
@Delightedly
5 ай бұрын
My mother has a terminal ocular melanoma. Until it happened, I didn’t realize how critical sunglasses were.
@GraniteStateVictoria
4 ай бұрын
That's actually really scary (and tragic, I'm sorry for your loss). Hearing about this also makes me grateful I wear sunglasses all the time. I admit my love of sunglasses is more because I love how they look on me than anything (but eye health is important as well) but now I'm really glad I wear sunglasses 24/7/365. I also wear a big sunhat at the park and at the beach (it looks great with my sunglasses).
Overcast doesn’t mean no UV .. Uv gets almost 100% through the clouds!
@alyssao.9577
4 ай бұрын
Yup! I call em "cloud burns" and they are the worst! They are very sneaky because you don't even realize you're getting burned since you don't feel hot. The longer exposure often means more severe sunburns.
Go to the doctor bro! Get those appointments scheduled. Do it! Do it nowww!
Love that you’re talking about this. I had first round of Melanoma at 22. Since then, I am supposed to get yearly eye exams (very light irises) and wear sunglasses even in the winter.
@judithlashbrook4684
5 ай бұрын
Hi, I have light sensitivity and would love to find glasses that block light, but don't look too weird to wear indoors or in winter. Do you have any suggestions or is it just a case of accepting the odd looks people give me? Love, light and spoons to you!
@truckerwifeonabudget6295
5 ай бұрын
@@judithlashbrook4684 I don’t choose the wrap around sunglasses, but ones that block out most UVA and UVB, summer and winter. The wrap around kind is supposed to be better. My teen wears progressive lenses that adjust, and if you wear Rx lenses, that might be an option for you-you’d just have to check. I don’t have a need for Rx lenses at this time. It’s been 20 years since I was first diagnosed with melanoma and I’ve been 15 years cancer free. I do wear brimmed hats in the summer and sunscreen and sunglasses year round, and stay under shade as much as I can-even with sun protection. It’s different than a light sensitivity though. Most of the damage was done before I turned 14 according to my doctors, and I’m just trying to prevent too much further exposure.
@Haplo59
5 ай бұрын
@@judithlashbrook4684 photochromic glasses
I pedal, paddle, and x-country ski a lot. I've gotten so used to my polarized wrap-around UV-resistant sunglasses that I don't even take the garbage out without putting them on. And I live in the higher latitudes.
@GraniteStateVictoria
4 ай бұрын
I live in New Hampshire and I wear sunglasses 24/7, in fact I have them on right now and I'm in my house, doing my weekly cleaning (usually on Sunday but this week I have off work for Good Friday) and preparing a nice Good Friday dinner. I admit though that my love of sunglasses is more about fashion than anything, but eye health is the second biggest reason I leave them on all the time.
Oliver Sacks died from melanoma on his retina, iirc. I recently got transitions lenses and always wear my had in the summer. I hope it’s good enough.
This was in the 90s but my grandmother died from melanoma at the back of her eye (she also had a glass eye for a while prior to her death) - 10/10 recommend sunglasses. And I've been the obnoxious friend who uses my nana's story to convince my friends to wear eye protection. Though I think losing an eye was a bigger threat than cancer 😳😎
Sorry glauc, I failed to wear sunglasses for a while (move from MA to CA) due to underestimating the sun. Got surfer's eye. I have learned my lesson now, wearing sunglasses while typing this.
You should have Dr. Dray (Dr. Andrea Souarez, Derm) on as a guest. She is also all over social media. Sunscreen is her main topic.😊
Never used sun screen when I was young and have had numerous operations to remove skin problems. Shout it to the world. Enjoying the channel. Thank you for sharing.
Oh, btw, Nutella has an SPF of 9.7, so you might still want to spread it on bread rather than your skin. Don't know about eyes though, that's Dr. G's field of expertise.
@norniea
5 ай бұрын
😂
As an Aussie I can tell you you'll only ever personally experience full-blown sunburn here once. It's so horrific you'll never make the same mistake again.
Sadly, the neurologist Oliver Sacks succumbed to this in 2015, as did an uncle of mine, after living a number of years with it.
I had never heard of ocular melanoma till my best friend was diagnosed with it in 2017. She was treated and had clear annual scans till fall of 2021, when the cancer came back in her liver. She died about 9 months later after several unsuccessful treatments were tried. After her death, I learned of several other friends who lost family members to the awful disease. (And I also found out that a good friend, an oncologist, had specialized in this disease.)
I hate the feeling of sunscreen, but i also burn easily. My normal colour in the summer is red, and thats not even being burnt. When i was living in new zealand, i had my sunscreen time between my lessons. One day i got told by a new zealander that i worked with that i don't need to wear sunscreen, everyone looked at her baffled because everyone knew how easily i burnt without it.
I recently switched to transition glasses instead of a second pair of sun glasses. A second pair was always fully out of pocket because vision insurance is a joke. So instead of $500 or so for frames and lenses, I pay a fraction of that and always have my sunglasses on. I found I would use the sunglasses less if I had to take time to switch them. Now I don't even realize the transition has happened unless I go inside.
Former Derm nurse here… let’s have those anti suncreeners visit our melanoma patients. I have a relative who passed from squamous cell carcinoma recently.
@lh3540
5 ай бұрын
I can't find a sunscreen that doesn't trigger my migraines. There's something in the chemicals or the way it traps heat on my forehead. I've ended up with my head in an MRI machine over it. The best I can do are those uv shirts. It's not always an option. 😢
@MNP208
5 ай бұрын
@@lh3540 Even fragrance free and strictly zinc oxide? If you can't apply it to your forehead, just wear a hat!
I got Transitions lenses some time ago. When I visited a new opthalmologist last week, I asked him about them. He said "I'm wearing them now. They're great". Good enough for me: I always have them on, so there's nothing to forget.
I have pterygium in both eyes, good times! Had it removed in one eye but it came back. Too much time at the beach and in the water without sunglasses. Downside of surfing.
Hi from an Aussie. As we say here in Australia -: Slip, Slop, Slap,Seek, Slide. Slip on clothing that covers your arms, legs shoulders. Slop on some Sunscreen SPF30 or higher. Slap on a hat. Seek shade. Shade by itself can reduce UV exposure by up to 75%. Slide on some Sunglasses that meet the standard of your country. Here in Australia it’s AS 1067….. But just remember it’s not just in the summer you need Sun Protection. If you love the snow and Skiing, you need to protect yourself from the sun there as well. Not only from above can the sun get you there but from the bright light that comes back at you from all of that bright white snow. It’s not just frostbite you need to protect yourself from on the snow or in winter in some places…. Make Sunscreen apart of your routine everyday before you get on your way… ⛱️🕶️🧢…… 💛 ⚛️☮️🌏
As a cancer researcher who works in Oregon, I wear sunscreen daily despite working from home🤣 And don't even get me started on Oregon's non-fluorinated water🤦♀️
I'm not opposed to sunscreen but it immediately triggers horrible migraines. Like vomiting, two week episodes. I've gone through like 12 brands now.
@Tiffany_C_
5 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s terrible. Is it from chemical or mineral sunscreens or both?
Age 62…..three successive eye surgeries to try and repair a detached retina,….a couple years later….melanoma below same eye…and after surgery, radiation, chemo….so far so good. It’s likely way too late for me to start wearing sunglasses especially since my vision is already compromised especially in low light. But listen up to this Doc youngsters!
Oh hey, it's me, pushing 40, with a "freckle" found in a back peripheral spot last year, and a whole bunch of risk factors - including an aunt that died from some form of ocular cancer, living in Kansas and Minnesota most of my life which averages out to Iowa, plus one you didn't mention: staring through a DSLR while photographing a solar eclipse. 🤦♀️ Photos turned out great! Eyeballs felt like they had a sunburn inside for a loooong time, and camera lost some ability to focus. I'll uh... be making that appointment to get imaging done again now (repeat imaging- optometrist and ophthalmologist both felt confident things looked good last year).. Thank you for the hefty prod!
Good episode, was sorta hoping for a little bit more specific knowledge about sunglasses. I have an amount of them that are more fashion than function and I’m always a little curious how much I should worry about using fun color tints over the less fun UV stuff
@roecocoa
5 ай бұрын
Look for UVA *and* UVB protection. This is not very hard to find even with cheap fashion sunglasses. Avoid dark lenses that lack UV coating: your pupils get bigger to compensate for the reduced visible light, and you end up letting more UV light in. Polarized lenses are neat until you need to use your phone. Things like blue light reduction for better sleep/amber tint for driving are basically marketing gimmicks; they're harmless but you shouldn't pay extra for them. (Not an eye doctor; just someone who got really serious about sunglasses because of photosensitive headaches.)
It's Twitter, and getting more toxic by the day. You are missed there and appreciated here. Keep debunking the BS, and having fun while you do it.
An even more effective approach is to reduce exposure. I get a little sun on the way to and from my car, which is more than enough for me!
I've heard of the antisunscreen ppl outside of x. They make me worried about using sunscreen but I still do
One of my funniest memories was a friend of mine who wasn't allowed to wear sunscreen and they and their sibling would go into their closet and put it on.
Hi Doc. I just found you today and have been binging all of your shorts because they’re so funny, laughing out loud and then I started looking at some of the more in-depth videos and I think one of the reasons I came across your videos is because I’ve been doing a lot of searches about an upcoming eye surgery. I’m going to have I’m very nearsighted and about 10 yrs ago at age 65 had cataract surgery in both eyes after struggling to see for three years then immediately I developed a retina detachment. I had that repaired and my vision has been problematic for the last 10 years because I read music and do close-up work artwork so I’ve been complaining for 10 years and then lo and behold one of my IOLs fell out the other day my retina detachment surgeon is going to do the surgery again but I’m having to wait nearly a month because it’s not considered an emergency when I discovered my retina detachment. I was in the hospital the next morning and now I’m sitting around I can’t see anything and I’m getting extremely frustrated. So of course I spent all this time getting into emotional trouble by doing a lot of searches online about surgery outcomes for IOL exchanges, and I know the power has now changed. We did a measurement so the power has changed so now I have a collection of eyeglasses that they’re all gonna have to be redone because the prescriptions aren’t gonna work and that’s gonna cost me probably a couple thousand dollars because I I do like to have different eyeglasses and I can’t afford any of that and from what I understand my vision probably is not going be as good as it even was so I’ve been struggling now for well over 13 years to see properly And understand that I can have another retina detachment and I do think that I have some kind of double vision. My doctor said my brain cannot bring my eyes together and I still have yet to understand that so when I want to see something clearly, I just close one eye Thank you for the one video where you say you if you have some kind of a incident after a surgery to be there for your patient and I really appreciated what you had to say because this time this incident where I lost the lens, I couldn’t tell what was going on, but it did not look like a retina tear. The symptoms were different, but I couldn’t tell what was going on. I had a full field of vision, but everything was blurry and so I deduced that the lens has slipped the lens and the capsular bag are gone. I guess I can’t use the bag I was kind of upset the day it happened because when I called my doctor in the middle of the week, he did not have a doctor on call, and he was out of the office for Passover which really bothered me. He did have a phone number. It was his phone number, but it took him three hours to get back to me. In the meantime, I was so very very upset. I was calling local doctors who are not celebrating Passover to get an idea of whether or not I need to go into the emergency room or not and I didn’t wanna go into the emergency room because I knew there was nobody there that I was gonna have operate on me and I didn’t wanna have to sit around for hours and hours knowing that there is nothing anybody can really do until I got to my retina specialist and I wasn’t gonna go with some strange Doctor Who I didn’t know how good they were and I know my doctors are very good here on the West Coast. They’re in the Best group but they weren’t there for me so that really bothered me He finally texted me and he said call your retina doctor and when I called them there was a wait of line of eight people in front of me on hold and I was too disturbed to wanna wait that long so I felt very abandoned by my doctor. I haven’t talk to him about this yet because he’s always been there for me. It’s just this one time he wasn’t there. I’m sorry to go on I guess I’m pretty disturbed by the events that have happened and I’m not due to have surgery until May 15 and it’s only the fifth Thank you for humoring me for the day. I appreciate it so much.
I always wear sunglasses. No matter the season, no matter the time of day, no matter the weather, no matter the location. In fact, only my family has seen me without sunglasses. I admit that my primary reason is because I love how they look on me, but I also love how they protect my eyes from the sun. In fact, I'm wearing sunglasses right now (in my house).
As a New Zealander, high spf sunscreen is so important that once when I got a sample of spf 40 sunblock i found myself thinking "oh, this will be good for winter". Ps love your work!!
I was already wearing sunglasses (thanks, light sensitivity), but this successfully scared me into convincing all my friends and family to be more careful about wearing sunglasses outside. Thanks for all the educational content! I've learned so much about eyeballs (and medicine in general) from you and all your guests
My struggle with sunscreen is that there are so many mysterious ingredients in it, it can be hard to tell what you're allergic to. Case in point, I used this spray on sports sunscreen recently, and I broke out in hives D: Didn't get sunburned! But still got very itchy regardless. I'll stick with stuff like hats and long-sleeved/legged clothes for now I guess...
It didn't occur to me you could get eyeball sunburn until the Black Panther cast shared some of them experienced it when filming the first movie.
Idk why I love this intro song so much. Awesome episode!
I’m not great at sunscreen, but I can’t drive in cloudy weather without sunglasses, let alone sunny weather. If it weren’t for my daughter, I’d swear I was the only person with green-brown eyes with such light sensitivity. Even her optometrist commented about how sensitive she shouldn’t be to light because of her eye color.
The thing about enucleation and radiation is that they can both be considered the nuclear option
Transition prescription lenses (turn into sunglasses in sun) are so expensiveeeeee
Ocular melanoma rates are higher in Australia. Ocular (uveal) melanoma is rare. Each year, around 125-150 Australians are diagnosed with this type of cancer (about 5-6 cases per million people). 1 It is more likely to be diagnosed in men than women, and can occur at any age, but the risk increases with age. Love my sunglasses and hat
Ok, this was horrifying but fascinating. Thank you again for the eye-ducation!
Had to go back with close captioning turned on as I thought you were saying REIKI Therapy. I thought that Reiki Therapy was a surprising choice for a control group. LOL
As someone with a family history of occular melanoma (have had 3 family members in about 3 generations with it)... This makes me understand my mom's insistence on sunglasses so much more
X has been better for me as I figured out how to turn off notifications unless I knw them or something lol
Snow blindness from sun reflecting off the snow. Not sure how it works though.
Sunglasses aren't just a summer thing, winter has sunny days too and reflection off snow is no joke.
@GraniteStateVictoria
4 ай бұрын
Very true, in fact I wear sunglasses 24/7/365 (I'm even wearing them right now). And whenever I go to the park or take a beach vacation, I also wear a big beach-style sunhat in addition to my sunglasses. Also, I love how sunglasses (and the beach hat) look on me.
My glasses automatically turn to sunglasses. 😎
I always wear polarised sunglasses. I don't know if it's because of light colored eyes, but strong sunlight bothers me (Southern Spain), and I'd rather not go blind if I can avoid it anyhow. Everyone around me seems to feel it's a chore tho. Even those that wear prescription glasses either don't get sunglasses or keep them at home. I don't get it.
I was taking a walk on my break this morning and talking to my bf about getting a couple of glasses straps to make it easier and more likely to wear my sunglasses 'cause preventing ocular melanoma and other UV damage is important.
The years I was working on a farm, peoples didn't believe me because I was white as a ghost. I was just the weird one wearing wool sweaters with linned pants and large hat with a silk scarf over the neck. And lot of suncream.
We just buried our 24 year old neighbor who had eye cancer, who wasn't really light skinned. She had spent all her summer vacations at a camp. Very sad. We are in Texas.
@GraniteStateVictoria
4 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss. Hearing all these horror stories scare me despite the fact I wear sunglasses 24/7. I'm tempted to switch to huge sunglasses with eclipse glasses lenses to fully protect my eyes, but I realize that might be going too far the other way.
Wow, I never knew that eyes could get melanoma. I've always worn anti-uv glasses to help prevent cataracts.
Beaverton has fluoride in the water 🙌🏼
I enjoy all the eyeball content 😊. I'm sure you cover this, but do you have any specific suggestions for those of us who have corrective lenses for our prescription sunglasses? 😎 I keep meaning to get a descent pair...
I actually can't use sunscreen. I have extremely sensitive skin, and one of the main ingredients used in sunscreen (sorry don't remember the name of the ingredient at this exact moment, it's two long words, so don't remember right now) that protects the skin from the uvb rays is the one that I am allergic to (this was shown on tests that I had done at my allergist doctor's office). Luckily I very very very rarely ever burn (might have only ever burnt maybe 2 or 3 times throughout life), I tan very easily though.
Don't give up X - plenty of us (your followers) are there.
Hey Doc Glauc, go to the doctor!
There are a lot of chemicals in sunscreen. So, there is that worry. Might do like my Grandma on the farm. Come inside 11-3. Go swimming about 4. Sunscreen also blocks the ability to make vitamin D. I wear sunscreen. It’s a risk/ benefit assessment.
@BlackCanary87
5 ай бұрын
Relying solely on sunscreen isn't wise, but sunscreen isn't inherently bad because it's manufactured and has chemicals. Water is a chemical. Arsenic is natural. And there are mineral-based sunscreens that are reasonably effective if people are really worried or live in areas with coral reefs.
@norniea
5 ай бұрын
Not medically proven, at all. It does NOT block ability to make vit D. The chemicals are not harmful. The vehicle sunscreen is in is basically moisturizer. You are right, most things have a risk/benefit.
@norniea
5 ай бұрын
Yesss. "It's not the poison, it's the dose". 😅 Sunscreen does NOT block our ability to make vit D. Besides, the vehicle for sunscreen is moisturizer. I have had 2 precancerous spots taken off my face. Yep, I wear it every day.
@SockimusPrime
5 ай бұрын
I mean, “there’s a lot of chemicals in X” is a fundamentally fallacious argument. All things are chemical in nature. The process of baking bread in my home is a chemical process that turns raw flour, water, and yeast into an edible product. There’s chemicals in whatever my dermatologist prescribed me to clean up the aggressive eczema on my hands that I’d dealt with for nearly a decade, but it sure as hell cleaned up my hand in a hurry. Hell, eat an apple, and the acid in your stomach will break down the chemical chains in the fruit to turn it into more usable raw material for your body. It’s possible for purely synthetic chemicals to be harmful, sure, but it’s also possible for perfectly “natural” chemicals to be harmful. Being synthetic doesn’t inherently make a chemical dangerous.
@marjschmitz1836
5 ай бұрын
You can take a Vitamin D3 supplement. Cheap.
Hi Dr Glaucomflecken! Thanks for your great videos. I have questions about some of the things that are around the eyeball and that I have had to have treated or managed somehow. I would be REALLY grateful if you would do a video about these sorts of things: ocular rosacea (13 years of daily doxycycline so far) thyroid eye disease ectropion (and the opposite) insufficient lipid tear film dry eye I also am highly sensitive to bright light and burn easily, so I'm not a fan of beach trips. When I had oculoplastic surgery it involved a small tarsoraphy (scary), using cartilage from my hard palate to support my lower lids and prevent the ectropion, occlusion through cauterization of my lower punctae to try to keep my eyes from drying out so dramatically, and some other stuff that I don't remember. (That procedure with the punctae was the most painful thing I have ever experienced, and it was the lidocaine injection that made me gasp.) I just had cataract surgeries and am absolutely amazed that I went from being legally blind (without glasses) to having nearly normal vision (without glasses) except for presbyopia. Incredible. Fantastic doctor. So, anyway, it would be great if you could talk about any or many of these things. I realize you're not an oculoplastic surgeon, but I bet you have dealt with all of these things. Thank you for considering it.
Thank u dr ❤
I'm in the path of the eclipse thats happening April 8th. Can you recommend a pair of eclipse glasses? I hesitate to believe any of the glasses on Amazon that say they're AAS approved.
Dr. G, go to the doctor! Also get an eye exam! You can film it and explain all of the parts for folks if that makes it more likely to happen.
Have you ever considered getting on Dr. Drew's Podcast?
Please add sunglasses to your merch! that would be a great way to encourage your followers to wear sunglasses plus spread the word about your show (and CME credits).
Hi
Do the coatings on regular glasses block UV light? I think i heard that somewhere, but im not wire.
What happen with the flickering on oled screens? do they could possible damage your eyes?
wow i hate ALL OF THIS
Slip Slop Slap Seek Slide Slip on a shirt Slip on Sunscreen Slap on a hat Seek shade Slide in sunglasses
Do you dread solar eclipses?
Kind of expected the radiologist to explain why sunglasses are so important. A little disappointed
I’m curious…where are you anti sunscreen people? And….when did you develop insanity?
@barbarak8158
5 ай бұрын
Boy... u r a scallywag!
@BlackCanary87
5 ай бұрын
It's a combination of conspiracy thinking trends. The naturalistic fallacy, distrust of authority and The System...same things that make people suspicious of fluoride in water (a public health triumph), chemotherapy, etc. Do you remember the Raw Water trend a few years ago? Fortunately that seems to have gone down once enough people got giardia.
@Amandaaa2244
5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen so many people try to claim that sunscreen causes more cancer than the sun 😂
@jessamineprice5803
5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the Environmental Working Group has done a lot to spread the fear that sunscreen is actually toxic. There is some real info in their stuff, but it’s mixed in with a certain amount of disingenuous “everything natural is good” drumbeats. There’s an PhD Australian science educator on KZread who does great debunkings of their sunscreen stuff. Her handle is Lab Muffin Beauty Science and is worth a look for understanding the origin, context and tricksiness of anti-sunscreen stuff.
Sorry, I appreciate Elon. But, I do agree with hats, sunglass and sunscreen.
I’ve been watching for awhile, and especially with the episode of Drs Owusu-Ansah and Tripp, that their voices sounded equally as good, if not better than those of yours and Kristin, despite those huge microphones you now use that you don’t use for any of your skits, when again you sound as good or better than you do with those huge mics. Am I the only one thinking this? Thanks so much for your good voice on these topics!
@kphelgerson
5 ай бұрын
PS: go see your dermatologist and have your ICD checked. This 67 yo retired Family Doc also suggests that a good HEALTH MAINTENANCE EXAM might be a good idea from your family doctor, too. And they might catch things as well.