We even disbanded a "weekly no leaver" group...

@slayercys1960

Жыл бұрын

Now, that's a perfect game we did it boys. LOL

@jafurinagar8491

Жыл бұрын

omg thats a low point :(

@killerkoalazz

Жыл бұрын

honestly sad how many people just leave. they oughta come up with some sort of punishment for people who's only goal is to derank keys they arent ready for

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@killerkoalazz ya problem is there is no way to differentiate between the leavers and those who just agree to stop. No way to punish without changing how keys are pugged and that's work blizzard won't be interested in doing

@obicomexmachina382

11 ай бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro It's a shame given how easy it would be for them to implement a surrender vote, similar to the vote to kick in dungeon finder

When people say that the M+ scene isn't toxic and that pugs aren't a bad idea, I always think of videos like this.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

The scene is incredibly toxic for sure but players like that are not common. Pugging is not a bad idea, you just need an iron stomach.

@peterpain6625

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Also be immune to real-life-stuns by the constant facepalming you're going to do ;) Both hands more often than not ...

@trollnerd

Жыл бұрын

It's really just keys above 20. I find that 20 and lower, people are willing to at least finish because in most cases people need crests and drops but once you get above 20 the only thing of value is IO rating, so there's no reason to keep going if the key isn't timed. People are just so much more chill in keys below 20.

@s1os2s3

Жыл бұрын

@@trollnerd There is a minority of players that hate-play WoW because either are addicted or just dont have a purpose in life. So, the goals they lack in life they apply it in WoW. I am not going to be a hypocrite and say that I am not disappointed, annoyed or frustrated when someone times a 20 or any key above 16 key lvl and they fail miserably in the run you are with him/her. I wont flame them I will just mentally check out. Still, I agree that if you dont intend to bring your best in the run to time the key and you fail mechanics in the dungeon then you are the toxic one because you are more of a burden then an asset to the group. It is a challenging content created for people that want the challenge and want to time it by not doing that you effectively are toxic to your group. For instance, I have a monk alt. I heal with it but I have not healed since TBC so I stuck to 2s for a week untill I got the hang of it I proceeded to do 7s to build up confidence. Now I am doing 11s+ key runs untill I get the proper gear for mistweaver.....it sucks having low haste as a mistweaver. I am not going to make others suffer so that I can learn mistweaver, that is toxic.

@sdwone

Жыл бұрын

It's starting to happen in Classic Wrath too nowadays unfortunately! With the recent introduction of Titan Rune Beta Dungeons (colloquially referred to as Heroic ++ dungeons). I mean if you're appropriately geared and you have some semblance of skill, grinding the alpha variants (heroic +) is actually quite doable. And Blizzard have introduced harder content with betas which, ironically, can be easier if, and only IF the group collectively knows what it's doing! But as usual, toxic under geared noobs think that they can just grind top level loot with little to no effort, and the results are just a complete shambles! I dinged some of my toons to 80 recently, and can easily grind normal heroics, to get the gear, to then grind alphas and betas later on. But no! Lots of groups, including a best mate of mine I'm running with, want to bypass all that grind and hit beta content right away! And it's bloody ridiculous!!! I mean, how the heck can you be expected to run, if you haven't even learned to walk!? The minute you mention the word "grind" in WOW, some people's eyes start rolling over! They would rather just buy and blast their way to end game content! Then complain when there's nothing left to do! Bloody Insane!!!

the shammy running to attack the mobs you have not hit, yet they are just aggroed is the real tank experience in m+ pugging. have had this crap so many times just for them to start type some toxic crap and leave.

@zizouwowist1641

Жыл бұрын

funny he used chain lighting on 2 add while the tank have 4 add under control. you can't make that shit up

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya and then you actually have clowns defending it in the comment section. This game is something else lol

@Telados

Жыл бұрын

This kinda shit makes me want to uninstall and touch some grass

@blazzuris7219

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetroI woulda whispered that guy or said in party chat “idk what class you think I’m playing but I’m not a prot pally I can’t just throw my shield and have aggro instantly bdk aggro sucks”

@jiraiYT

Жыл бұрын

​@zizouwowist1641 right??

This felt so validating to watch 😂 love how you kept such a good sense of humor through it all. That priest at the end was hilarious.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely wild ending for sure. Can't help but laugh. If we don't laugh, its tears instead.

First video of yours I've seen and honestly dude you have such a great mindset/demeanor. Excited to binge your page. Already learning from watching your wipes lol.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Haha glad to hear that!

Every since BFA I basically only try to play keys with friends now. It's a night and day difference. There are just so many people out there that you question how they even got to where they are in terms of progression and gear. Even then - it's fine to fail a bit but a lot of people just straight up can't function socially and will blame everyone else but themselves despite them being the only things that could have caused their own problem. You can record it and show it to them frame by frame being their fault and they will go "No it wasn't"

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya, the craziest is the refusal to admit when something went wrong.

@fred6671

5 ай бұрын

there's nothing more fragile than the ego of a m+ player

that sham running off and aggroing the soldiers in vp made me laugh so hard like my guy what exactly did you think was going to happen xD

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya no clue just one of those dudes who are so on edge any small mistake causes them to blow up.

@peterpain6625

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Had a paladin blow up on me in a undr16 (after +3 them the 13 they had before) because i dared to ask him to bubble some shrooms away his hunter friend missed. Couldn't stop giggling :)

These streams were crazy to watch, absolutely savage week so I hope the next one treats you better! Thanks for streaming and making videos, I always watch them during lunch 😃

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

It really can't be any worse. I say that all the time but this time its kinda factually true haha

When I was viewing your stream that day and seen the shammy in VP grab the trash and take 100% aggro, then blames you for it -- for me that's the cherry on top and I hope the shammy player sees your video and realizes (maybe) how ridiculous they were. Thank you for sharing this video Metro!

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Especially after insulting me like that. Dude needs to go outside.

@Crotes1990

Жыл бұрын

I remember that haha, that guy was projecting so hard

@firdatgame

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro shaman was wrong,... BUT! the way u pulled in the 2nd pack was weird. Why not move the first 3 to them so you can get a blood boil out before dps can make this mistake in the first place? again, the shaman was wrong, but sometimes you can do things to prevent others from making mistakes.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@firdatgame not interested in playing around mistakes like this. This is just how I have decided to pull it. Never been an issue before or after this guy.

@Roflcorso

Жыл бұрын

@@firdatgame I play Enhancer and this shaman is just stupid. The pull was completely fine and there was no need running to these mobs and Chain Lightning them, when there is a big group right next to you at the tank. In S2 the next two Chain Lightning will do 100% more dmg after Sundering and at 2:16 you can see him doing Sundering right under the Weakauras. If you don't let the tank 5-7 seconds to tank everything before you throw your big buffed up Chain Lightning you will always get aggro from something, because these things crit over 300k on every mob.

Honestly the best part was watching all the chaos on your stream 😂. So many disbands

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

It was a very chaotic week for sure.

Great vid well made!

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Funniest thing to me is that people think of excuses to type way faster than thinking of correct decisions to make during gameplay. It's like they have a notepad next to their keyboard with two columns: 1:) "If I screw up like this..." 2:) "Then type this..." heh

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

That's very well said actually. They are more mentally prepared to insult some one else to deflect blame than to actually react to what killed them. God that's scary.

Disc healer here. This is a massive problem currently in keys starting with like +15 and higher. Key can be eaisly timed still and people leave after 1 death/wipe that is easily recoverable. Currently counting keys and so far out of 15 and higher I started 352 and only completed 83 (timed only 41). Healing is almost never an issue as people just keep getting one tapped by mechanics or globaled sub 1s by some combos that should have been interrupted I think the issue is that this season you can obtain quite a lot of good gear very fast. Went on an alt rshammy from 380ilvl fresh 70 to 439ilvl in one week (without any big raid drops outside of 2p tier). What this means is a lot of bad players are able to get to close to maximum ilvl very fast and bruteforce a lot of keys with that key and a bit of luck. What this results in is them getting okay rio rating. Seen some people with 2.8k or higher that play like absolute animals and behave like they actually have sub 2k rio. Also it feels like a lot of the good players either stopped playing or are not playing in pugs anymore leaving only this garbage that is trying to fluke the keys until they make it.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I have heard a lot of people suggest it's a gear thing but I don't really think it is. The content is just harder than it has been in the past, likely a result of the nerfed affixes being over compensated for.

@ajbrittingham1150

Жыл бұрын

what was your strat to gearing your shaman so fast?

@Matte8lack

Жыл бұрын

@@ajbrittingham1150 Did the weeklys. Pushing own keys hard and then inviting other mail users that had high ilvl. It is true that I did fully degen farm the mythics (must have done like 80keystones)

@Matte8lack

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Tbh I dont feel like that. Previous seasons still had one shot mechanics which if you didnt avoid then you would die. That is same now. Also the boss fights take roughly same time as well so it doesnt feel like they compensated with proportionally increased mob HP. All just personal experience/opinion

@big.dirty.buckets

Жыл бұрын

yep, seen so many 2.8 tanks act like absolute clowns i had a guy drag some adds to the boss in a +22 uldaman when i had 33% mana

How tf can they blame the tank for whiping on a boss that litterally stands in the middle of the room?? That is so funny to me especially when they die to mechanics you are supposed to move from and avoid, if anything, you wipe on the first boss in VP and only the tank is still alive you can guarentee he was the only person not screwing up

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

It was mostly a joke. Nothing was actually said against me but I wouldn't put it past them for thinking I was at fault given some of the other stuff we see haha

One of the best videos I’ve seen so far

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

It was fun to make too!

Don't know how I came across this vid but it is great content. You got my sub.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

You came to the right place then haha. This is pretty much all of our content now-a-days!

@FatkidIRL

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro haha I get to 2500 on my shaman and quit each season. Not trying to waste time with groups like this

I just love how the priest pulling the ads using MC in the Neltharus was a "he saved the key", eventually things go so wrong that we're rooting for it to keep happening.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Yup absolutely, as soon as we realized the key wouldn't be in time everyone switched to rooting for it to be a disband because that was the 12/12 full stream disband run.

Afflicated spawn in some of the strangest place, it's mind-boggling. Had it spawn under big bosses so many time and not being able to mouse over or click it has been frustrating to say the least.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that.

@Axel-kk7fr

Жыл бұрын

This so much oh my god it’s spawned under the last boss of Uldaman twice and can’t tab over and clicking it was so tough it went off twice for me unfortunately

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

Yeah afflicted can be back breaking or it can be a non affix, depending on when they spawn, what your comp is, and if dps/tanks deign to help. It's really frustrating.

@odinlance9933

Жыл бұрын

Had one spawn at the last pack that you don’t pull in freehold. We were on the other side of the arena….

Some of the best WoW content on KZread, endlessly funny.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it, there certainly is no shortage!

@alexis1156

Жыл бұрын

It's funny until you're on the receiving end.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@alexis1156 nope, still funny here haha

On the other hand, looks like a lot of content for season 2 end video of all fails and disbands in M+ :D

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Probably just going to be sticking to doing clips like this at this rate, with it happening this frequently.

"We gotta try stop dying... Good idea, I didn't think of that..." - I'm ded. Such gold.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Stuff like that always cracks me up!

Enhance has enough Aggro issues as it is, I constantly rip threat. HOWEVER that is not what happened here he literally pulled for you and ate shit for it.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Yup, literally clean slate in terms of threat on that mob and that dude decides he wants to take the reigns.

@normannseils3936

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, normally i would keep Abo Limb for pulls like that. That doesn’t make his behavior any better, just Tanks life easier for moments like that.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@normannseils3936 wouldnt reach from there

@normannseils3936

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro but you could keep moving and the previous pack gets grabbed along the way

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@normannseils3936 that's not a good way to play dk in my eyes. I feel I need to plant and start the resource income ASAP. You see I get chunked here even in tyran. This guy just did something stupid. Nothing else to really discuss. Not going to be changing the way I play the video game to prevent people from killing themselves.

So true I agree with you . One of the worst weeks by far . I’m 3034 rio currently and I can barely get my weekly 20s done without it being a 1 hour dungeon

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya I literally couldn't. Even joined a "no leaver" group and we still couldnt finish the dungeons.

Things I learned healing keys - Do not play with Azralon, Ragnaros, Quel-thelas, Area52, Sargeras and honestly if I were an American (I am Australian) Do not play with Frostmourne OCE. Secondly if you're a healer, you should make yourself an obnoxious couple of macro's to remind people that can do the weekly affixes to do them and if there's a common spot people die at or forget to use defensives, have a - REMEMBER TO USE YOUR DEFENSIVES - Macro as a reminder for the group or || Stun the crawlers in UR. Lots of different things can make a difference, and the ones that are receptive are probably the more lax, better players and more likely to stay in the key and get it done. But I genuinely hate keys this season as healer, and I played with so many 2700~ players that die like 10 times a key to the most easily avoidable stuff. People are boosted or yeah, I can't figure out what's going on. On that FH Though, you definitely should have walked the boss out for a quick respawn soon as you were down to just yourself remaining even with optimal dps, it would have taken 6.6 minutes for the kill if you were doing 50k solo. Also should have better timing on your Abom Limb for the add. But yeah, everything else sucks.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

6.6 minutes with the 100 percent damage phase calculated?

@kizzagaming6523

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah, even longer potentially since it was 22 mill remaining and u were sub 50k Edit : 8.13 minutes at those numbers

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@kizzagaming6523 Right but I would be doubling my DPS as soon as the phase starts. You accounted for that? Because we did the math on stream and it was perfectly doable if I maintained my current DPS.

@kizzagaming6523

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro My bad, yeah 4.1 Minutes so it may have been doable. I would have cost you the key too then apparently, lol. Part of the problem, not the solution. Cpt Planet would not be happy

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@kizzagaming6523 It would have been close either way, but reality is there was zero chance of upgrading that key if we reset it. The run back is just too far.

unbelivable. those guys playing +20 keys and dont know what they are doing^^

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

22!

everyone blames the tank or the healer drives me crazy!!!!!!

@sharkstaint1373

Жыл бұрын

yeah cause they are the main pillars of the team , its easier to notice tanks and healers mistakes than dps , not saying u should blame them cause of this statement , but sadly thats how pugs work , every dps enter the key as hes the main character , and you guys are just npcs

@CoreSystemDev

Жыл бұрын

@@sharkstaint1373 "every dps enter the key as hes the main character , and you guys are just npcs" which is ironic since it should be the other way around

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Another part of why this happens is because there are 3 DPS and only 1 tank. Its easier for the DPS to feel like they are right when they have people supporting their interests, even passively.

@Bubajumba

Жыл бұрын

it can go the other way to, the other day I had a tank over aggro and the healer and two other dps died and after a while me and him too, he started blaming me the last dps for not healing him enough. I told him to take responsibility for his own actions and it wasn't me who put us in this position in first place. Then he just left the group after throwing a tantrum, people in general are so insecure these days

This was a rough week for me too. One of my main goals was to get a better timed tyrannical Uldaman and believe it or not two attempts in a row I had 1-2 people die on Emberon. Which is fine, we still killed the boss and it was timable. But both times after killing boss we were perma stuck in combat. The other times where I actually did get past Emberon, we'd have afflicted spawn in really random areas on the final boss and it just became too much. They need to look into this Emberon bug it seems to be very frequently occurring.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

If you get footage of it, send it to me, and I can make a video like these on it and raise awareness.

I feel your pain man. Tanking is hell right now. The 18-20 bracket i'm in is even worse. Warlock friend of mine doing 21+ was removed from a couple of groups because he didn't "do the affix" ;)

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Tanking is actually the most fun I have ever had which is unfortunate because if I could just do these keys solo I would be having a blast.

@peterpain6625

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro I agree tanking is fun. It's just some people spitting into the soup... some even intentionally.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@peterpain6625 Ya sadly the community of the game reliably is the worst thing about it year after year.

lol,, i hadn't watched beyond his dying and I was going to comment that the Shammy was going to blame the Tank for his dying. lol.. sure enough. It doesn't take a genius to see they couldn't have been hit yet so why are you hitting them? People treat everything like it's a heroic and are then surprised when they die.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya, and then they attack others verbally for their own mistake. Its wild.

Did around 20 keys (+23) and completed (3) of which one was depleted. Yes its horrible but I wouldnt say the keys are hard, it just feels like the players are shit...

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I'm just not sure how they can be as bad as the data suggests they are. What would have changed?

No issues in my +6! Good luck with your toxicicisms, broseph!

@heythereguysitsMetro

5 ай бұрын

Ya this is more of a topic for higher keys.

Omg metro this content is GOLD when u said hey your right its a good idea to stay alive I LOST It buahaha 😅

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

glad you are enjoying it!

This is a god awful week for many reasons. 1 the affixes are awful with pugs. Finding people who actually take dispells and use them is a miracle in and of itself. But also D4 came out during a content drought. So most of the "Better" players are off OHHH AHHH in that game. And honestly there are allot of classes that can't do anything to help with this weeks affix so you tend to get completely ignored if say your a Warrior or other class that can't cleanse the affix. It's honestly another example of Blizzard throwing all the pressure onto healers, a role that's already hard enough to find for keys outside of weeks like this.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

This affixes with tyrannical is way too hard on healers for sure.

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I had a feeling the healing nerf at the start of the season was gonna be a problem, all my friends assured me it wouldn't be, but all the dungeon nerfs they've had to do with tyrannical still being beastly seems to suggest otherwise.

Stuff like this makes me not regret that I have stopped playing wow. I hope it gets better for the decent players.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

But you are missing out on all the hilarious moments!

Haven’t done m+ this season yet. My experience with groups last season was decent. Mostly good. I only had one bad day like this with constant leavers so I decided to call it quits early and did not have a repeat like that again for the remainder of the season. From my own anecdotal experience on a medium size server, reset day and day after the best days to pug.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

gotcha

I personally pug all of my keys, and let me tell you, you are 100% right about this shit week. I've depleted more keys this week than I believe I did in half of the season. You would think that once you start doing 23s, 24s, 25s people actually reason better with failures and try to learn from mistakes. Big joke that is. Now I wished I would have kept all of my footage with the failures to share too :))).

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya its hard to understand how so many people doing such hard content aren't able to deal with their own mistakes. Its such an anti-competitive mindset. When I was 6 I learned how to lose and bounce back.

@Telados

Жыл бұрын

You'd expect people in 20+ to know boss mechanics, but even that is too much to ask

@thezoomingdh

Жыл бұрын

@@Telados I have done a few 20s and some under 20s this week on alts as a tank (same as main). I literally got brain damage. Do not want to by toxic, but I believe at this point it is the truth.

@thezoomingdh

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro There is also this thing where, ok you are pugging with a random and some people might think "I'll never meet this person again, I can be as toxic as I want" or straight up do not care and just blame others. But in reality, if you are pugging and getting to harder and harder content, you will just stumble upon the same 20 or so people queueing at the same time with you. It is not about competitive mindset, it is about human decency here. I try most of the time to be cool in any situation, but man, it is really hard sometimes.

That warrior saying you trolled the key but it was him who fucked up is peak idiocy.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

ya I mean I did mess up pretty bad there, but we only WIPED because these dudes couldn't dodge the fire and then told me to reset the boss when I could have soloed it and probably still upgraded it. And then he dies to the same easy mechanic on the next pull and starts flaming me rofl. Pretty wild game. Players just have zero control of their own emotions anymore.

I went from an 18 underrot to a 14 one, and I was even lucky to finish that one.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Surprised you kept going haha

i thought it was just me! most of my keys have failed too, even left a few myself.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Not just you haha

I have ran around 20+ keys above 22 this week and it has been by far the worst week with just 4 timed keys (UR, FH, BH and VP). Some were my fault as healer, some of the others not really. Too few keys and hours of queue and a lot of simple mechanical mistakes you see in like if it was low keys, by far the worst pug week I've ever experienced so far with very few 'good' players actually pugging

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

This was certainly the worst I have ever seen it too.

Pugging is still the absolute worst experience of this game, and joining 90% of the guilds where they advertise "active" but there's 2 people online through the week and the rest are offline 32+ days with 200+ members cracks me up.

@NeverAware

Жыл бұрын

Leavers should get an automatic 1 day Timeout from joining any group content. I dont care about severe weather, or you have to go to work now. lol Automatic 1 Day ban. Take the day off and plan better next time.

@popopiidzdsq9079

Жыл бұрын

@@NeverAware only if the all group take the ban

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

No one really forms guilds for M+ though. But ya, pugging takes an iron stomach for sure.

@NeverAware

Жыл бұрын

@@popopiidzdsq9079 you must be a leaver. Why should the whole group be punished if you leave? 🤣 they're already being punished by you leaving.

@popopiidzdsq9079

Жыл бұрын

@@NeverAware cause if im in a group where ppl are clueless im right to quit the grp if on cragmaw second boss of underot there is perma add after tantrum im not staying in the grp if im playing a healer and ppl perma die to breaker avalanche cast in neltharion im right to leave if im playing a healer and no one help with afflicted im right to leave if im playing a healer and no one dispel in brackenhide im right to leave since we cant différenciante if the leave is due to sommone leaving for nothing or for a group making the run a living hell if we need to punish evryone must be punished it's evryone or no one

Good thing i'm more in the casual side of M+'s and so far I only have 2/8 completed in 20 which the portal is the only reason I would push a key to 20. Next patch we will have Mythic upgrade path which any great vault reward from a 16 - 19 (441 - 444) will be upgradeable to 447, making 17's the sweet spot to get End of Dungeon Hero gear and mythic vault reward. GG

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Hmm well whatever makes you happy! Getting 20s done are not bad at all. I'm sure there are better players doing 20s than 19s or 21s as well.

thank you for reminding me that since I don't have a push team I don't pug above a 20 and only push above 20 with guildies and try to mainly play with guildies

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I mean I still did upgrade 2 keys for score this week.

@aspenture1087

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro yeah it’s not that you can’t pug above 20s but it’s just extremely frustrating. I prefer to only do 20s with pugs and avoid pugging best I can. I would rather have a push team to play with or friends/guildies to play with to go past that

I don't know why, but this season is terrible for pugging. I'm long time pugger and I had to do 90%+ of the keys in guild group just to keep my sanity

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Its the worst I have seen for sure.

That week of affixes was definitely a rough week, a lot of keys went from timing to failing real quick.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I didn't really see many issues with the affixes tbh. Its just general bad play that would occur no matter the affixes. Like the freehold clip especially. Four people die to avoidables in 2 pulls. No affixes in play there.

10:18 The best advice ever. Absolute mastermind.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

rofl

LOL I know exactly what you are talking about. That week was vile and it was a miracle I got 4 done.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Ya that week was the worst I have ever seen for sure.

This week has been like this for me as well. The difference is that after 2/3 times this happens I log for the day. Plus having no applies to your 20/21 key is really weird.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Seems its relatively universal this week for whatever reason.

Tbh that was funny af, especially the bm hunter. Only thing i would critic you on is the freehold endboss, considering the groupsetup you should chain of ice the add there and for sure not have slappy hands active on the spawn, but yeah it happens. Haven't had any trouble doing my keys, but i just do the 8 weekly 20s and be done with it. This season just has way too many oneshot mechanics and requires some more groupcoordination than before: neltharus bigpull trash chains, brackenhide totem dps check, vortex last boss add dps check, stuns on 3rd boss uldaman and many minor things

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

It does feel like we are into the one shot range way sooner than ever before in keys.

That shaman clip is exactly why I don’t tank in keys. So many players out there can’t get their head around the fact that they messed up or suck at the game and then just blame the tank smh.. At least they cutting the suffering of running a key with them short 😂

@VivisDoomsday

Жыл бұрын

I've grown to be thankful for the early leavers. They still suck for leaving but there's this other breed of gamers who will clear everything in the dungeon and then leave at the start of the last boss lol. Really sucks when it's the healer or tank.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya that reaction was wild. He did everything possible wrong there then insults me!? I am unsure why so few people can just put mistakes behind them. No clue how you progress with that mentality.

Watched this after coming back from a three-month WoW break and had me laughing to keep from crying😂

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Yup, if we don't laugh we will cry haha!

Is it just me or are leavers way more prevalent now than before the alliance horde merger? When I was only pugging with ally we rarely had leavers. Then horde came and disbands have skyrocketed

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Oh ya, that was the first thing I noticed when I switched to alliance in season 3 of SL. SOOO many less disbands. Horde players are very impatient and selfish. Alliance was more normal, but that's all gone now sadly.

I did a 14 Tuesday and all the 15's and 16's I tried went to poop. Even I make mistakes but Holy moly the amount of rage instead of teamwork in a pve mode is insane this week.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya teamwork doesn't exist in pugs. It's basically just five players hoping their selfish goals align enough to upgrade the key at this point.

That’s the funniest thing ever! Hands up! “He saved the key, we’ll wipe now!”

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

ya that really was wild idk if he was listening to chat or waht.

I've literally quit for 2 weeks now once I've reached 2.5k rating. Pugging feels at it's all time lowest with complete imbiciles in 18-20+ keys.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

This is the all time low for sure. No question.

Im in pretty much same situation right now, this week its those exact same affixes and i am losing my sanity BIG TIME. My mission was to time one +25 key this reset on my fire mage, despite my best efforts and 40ish hours of playtime i havent been able to get it done. Ive had a +25 key total of ELEVEN TIMES this week and every single one was a disband. This week had a heavy toll on my mental health and relationship with my significant other. At end of every day this week i have hoovered over the uninstall button.

@heythereguysitsMetro

10 ай бұрын

Certainly don't let a video game impact your realtionships man. No need to uninstall. Just don't sink your whole personality and happiness into pugging mythic plus.

Extremely satisfying seeing idiots being proven wrong, great vid!! The toxicity and weird shit I've experienced in PVE is wiiiild so nice to see it aint just me. I tried M+ pugs a while back and I didn't get invited to a +4 on my 415 ele shaman cuz I wasn't enhancement. Can you imagine what would happen if they let a 415 ele into a +4? I would totally ruin the high +4 key and wipe constantly or something, surely. I'll just play safe in the random heroic finder instead..........................

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Best option is just do your own key until things get harder and it starts mattering more.

@SupDude12345

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro ye seems true, I pushed my own key to 17s but almost didn't get any gear to go higher basically so I just repeated 15s, although i got the same dungeons over and over resulting in never even entering neltharion's lair. I think the pve system is absolute dog shit tbh 🤷‍♂️ wish they'd fix it up

Goodness gracious!

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

ya

i have not played wow in years. When the group wipes in mythic + does the timer stop at any point so you can discuss strategy?

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

it never stops no

3:37 Lawl at Evoker trying to deep breath through boss with all the tornadoes around it.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

haha a classic error.

This is so true omg this week was horrible…

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

worst I have ever seen for sure.

Tip for NL last boss. Position boss so group can stack on his left hand because add always spawns on boss left hand, therefor wall will already be there and add will spawn into wall, instant stun.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

yup I know, thanks.

Glad im not the only one having horrible luck. When is the tuning pass coming?

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

On people's brains? Don't think its coming sadly.

my best advice for dargrul, is that you need to stutterstep him all the way back to the far wall at the beginning, you might need to pause a moment to let the healer top everyone up, since him moving does unavoidable group damage, but then once you're at the wall, that damage is basically done for the fight, so there's less big spikes happening. its way, way easier that way. you get some nasty upfront damage but just let the healer know ahead of time to bust out some big cds at the start.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Advice for what? The guy died to standing in front of the boss then not kiting the add to the wall that spawned out of place.

@normannseils3936

Жыл бұрын

Or just be a blood DK and save your anti knockbacks, use goblin jump etc. that mechanic is never the issue in that fight,

@wh1tefrost

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Uhm, you can't let the add spawn out of place like that, that's an insta RIP. Idk why you cut that part out of the video but yeah, usually you bait the add right onto Crystal Spikes. Like the AoE damage, the add deals walking all the way to spikes is way too much pushing into higher keys. Literally a proper bait was the only thing that could have saved the run. :D Since kiting the add into spikes was impossible/very hard due to the lavapool. The add always spawns next to his left hand. You can even see the target trying to kite add into the spike and dying to lava. :) And yeah, you can't tank him stationary, idk whoever invented that strat it's stupid. Just tank him anywhere, let people bait spikes. Watch timers for molten crash and molten sculptor, position his left hand on spikes. Add gets insta cleaved, melee don't have to worry about kiting/not baiting spikes literally into lava where nobody can kite the add into spikes. Just watch Gingis 25 run 2 weeks ago, you'll see what I mean. Only thing you have to worry about this way is not destroying spikes with landslide so literally just watch timers.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

​@@wh1tefrost Can you explain why the spikes spawned on me when I moved him from the fire? I messed up and turned him the wrong way to spawn the add in panic after the spikes spawned there but obviously the players need to kite the add to the spikes there. The first guy who gets fixated is the hunter, who seemingly dies to being meleeded by the mechanic, then the priest just runs into the lava and dies despite never being fixated lol. Not really much more can be commented on though, if we can't understand why the spikes spawned on me there. I have never seen that before and that's what causes my mistake and the mistake of the others, I'd imagine.

@wh1tefrost

Жыл бұрын

​@@heythereguysitsMetro I think it can just spawn on the tank as well. Thing is, the add target couldn't kite the add because of the lava clipping the spike. But what could have helped is just tanking him in the open, rather than using the get knocked in the wall strat, since there really was no space to run unfortunately. That way people will actually be able to kite the add. (Which honestly they shouldn't even need to, I mean you said it urself, you kinda messed up.) Other than that, tanking him next to the wall might have messed up manipulating the add spawning right into the spike. Since you cut that out I can't really tell if you at least tried baiting the add spawn. Let's say the whole situation was an unfortunate series of events. :D But really, don't do the wall strat again, it's risky and makes tanking the whole fight super annoying.

So I just got into Dragonflight, I took a break from WoW and wanted to see how this expansion would do after some of the dust settled, seeing how Shadowlands turned out. I ended up doing a bunch of the achievements for the Midsummer Fire Festival. After finally going to the dragon isles, I was level 63 and while questing I queued for a dungeon. Literally, my first dungeon, we went through like 4 tanks and for some reason I was the only person knowing what to do, despite it being my first dungeon of the expansion, the tanks were hella toxic too. Just a weird anecdote that this video reminded me of and if that is a new player experience, I can see why a lot of new players don't come into WoW

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Its an absolutely awful experience to anyone new to the game entirely, I find. So many small things you need to learn, and so much bloat added to each patch its impossible to figure out what you need to do and what is obsolete at a glance.

I think the hands (Strike of the Mountains) on Ularogg on Neltarion is bugged. I have recorded that sometimes you have a proper long animation to escape these hands, and sometimes it's instant damage, and any normal human beign couldn't react fast enough to escape it. I've seen others complaining about it too. That's why I think he died second time at 10:35 . This game is ass.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I have heard that its bugged, but I think people are just standing too close to some one else's at times. The second you make contact with any hand you die, so you need to be spread enough that the mechanics wont overlap. I have yet to see an instant one personally as the tank, for example.

@MrGrissu

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah, that's true also

feels like i am been lucky this season m+ pugs when looking these videos, good thing u moving from low lvl keys to high lvl to show us that ppl are idiots in high lvl too

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

They are often worse, or maybe just more noticeable. Most of the things that kill people in this video will not in lower keys, so they will make those mistakes and just not actually die.

Watching these is so funny looking at how much more NA use ingame chat than us in EU, feel like we usually don't use it very much

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Oh ya? Is it just because of language barriers?

@scarrboros

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro could be but I also think it's a cultural thing, we don't like to try explain things to do as much. I don't pug much so I assume people still blame each other for their own mistakes tho

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@scarrboros ya from what I have seen, everywhere in the world people bicker over video game mistakes haha

I will 100% stand by this statement, i will never accept hunters into my keys due to most of them being seriously unskilled players. I think its due to the fact BM is the easiest spec in the game it appeals to a lot of newer players. Had nothing but issues every time i take a hunter.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Really? That might be a personal bias. Hunters have been top meta many times over the years. You can't not play with them and I never really seem anything abnormal from the class other than refusing the lust if they are marksmanship haha

Sunday through Sunday ran 24 keys, none higher than 22, finished. 3, 1 in time. All Pugs, no-one cares anymore, all you get are insults, whispers, and I am not even the tank or healer, just a plain old DPS. Sad!

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya its disappointing for sure. Its more sad that Blizzard just refuses to do anything about it.

As a ret paladin I don't notice this week being hard at all, cause I can dispel then WoG the afflicted and it's just gone. And with all my defensive tools I can't die on a 20. I had one failure on a 21 but the rest were timed.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Nothing really to do with the affixes happening here honestly. But ya paladin is a very good counter to afflicted.

I'm a Masters adc in League and holy sh*t this video reminded me so much of my ranked experience. In 40-50% of games: No one cares about teamwork, attitude wise you'd think they're confused who the enemy is and also full on ego my way or the highway, it's also better to sabotage the game after a bad play than face your own mediocrity and if you're at a slight but still playable disadvantage many still just go full surrender @ 15 mentality instead of playing it out so your teammates might be able to carry. Something about cooperating with 4 other strangers in a high stakes environment turns (some) people to go ape mode.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

"strangers cooperating in a high stakes environment" this hits the nail on the head. That's exactly what this situation is, and why its so funny and so naturally funny too.

I have done around 100 keys this week, completed around 30 of them and only timed 5 of them. When it was a week like this i just want to do weeklies and upgrades is a bonus.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

100 keys wtf

@Laptican

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro yeah I have vacation so had plenty of time haha

idk how you do it, id quit the week long before the half way mark of doing that many keys

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Luckily the stream keeps me going.

I've had my fair share of pugs in m+. Gave up m+ entirely in SL when all my friends left the game for God knows how long; assuming they ever come back. Without friends who play the game, the game mode is pretty much dead to me. What you call bad luck, I call Tuesday.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

You can always try to make new friends right?

@BloodVixen

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Fair point. It could be argued that for some like me, social networking "on the fly" would be even MORE difficult than the dungeon itself. Not to mention getting all of said new "friends" to be available during the times I want to run said content.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@BloodVixen Well how did you make friends the first time? All mine have always come from the game itself.

@BloodVixen

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro I joined a new guild. That was pretty much how. Problem is, the thought of going to a new guild gives me an overwhelming sense of guilt towards the remaining people I know in the guild I'm currently in, even though I'm typically online when they aren't, and vice versa.

I main shammy(enhancement) and I look at your second group, the one in the VP. It was very funny because as shaman you have a lot of interrupts and stuns and knockbacks. Your main priority should be to interrupt as many mobs as possible. He had no job of going and use empowered chain lightning to hit 2 mobs instead of waiting for them to gather while interrupting and hit all 6 with this CL. Also he is doing 100k dps. He was running to the other mobs and turning his back to the 1st group so he is doing 0 dps in this period of like 3 sec :D Last week was very ez to get rating and yet there were a lot of people that thought they have brilliant ideas.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Right, huge dps loss, obviously attacking enemies that I have 0 threat on, out of position for all crucial parts of the pack, and then attacks me and leaves after this one mistake lol People have such little control over their emotions its a wonder they are able to upgrade any keys at all.

This video was such a fun watch, and exactly the reason I quit WoW in February

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Oh ya? This is the exact reason I'll NEVER quit wow. Its just too naturally hilarious. You can't write some of this stuff.

@TGISnipez

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro I think for me, mythic raiding was like a second job, and without mythic raiding there's mythic+ but then this would happen every other key so what's the point? Without mythic+ there's pvp, but pvp is just way too complicated to understand. Shame there's not much outside of those 3. Mythic+ is super fun, but super exhausting when people just destroy a key for weird reasons and waste like 30 mins each time.

as a new m+ tank its nice to see that this isn't something I have controll over, people are going to do dumb things and get aggrivated and brick keys

@heythereguysitsMetro

6 ай бұрын

Ya sadly the struggle between the group is a huge part of pugging.

Damn that's rough. I guess I've had some good luck with groups because I've been doing up to 21s and 22s like this video and only have bricked I think like 7 this whole season. Do you have the raider io weak aura where you can see people's io and timed keys in the group finder? I only join groups where people have at least timed everything on a 20. I am a healer with lust, so I can afford to be selective with my groups, but I'd think the same for you as a tank.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Hmm I don't believe you honestly. If you have been doing keys with that few failures, you'd be way higher than that level by now, wouldn't you? Or are you saying there is some reason you are farming that range and not doing it for progression and score?

@DonderoA7

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Well for one, I started this season like 3 weeks late, so I've just now gotten to the point of doing the 21s and I'll be pushing 22s this week. Also, I just don't do a ton of keys each week. I only play 3 days a week, so I pretty much just do enough runs to get each dungeon to the next level. Now that I'm pushing into 21s and 22s, things get bricked of course, but I just take my time to find a good group and it's been quite smooth. This isn't some passive aggressive way of me saying that you're the issue. In the clips, it's obviously because of your group members are dying to dumb shit and stealing aggro; I just don't see that dumb shit happen really at all, and I attribute that to really taking my time in finding a group.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@DonderoA7 Sadly, no, you have just gotten lucky lol. These guys are all more than qualified for the groups they are in. That's the problem. You'll see it more the higher and higher you try to go.

@DonderoA7

Жыл бұрын

​@@heythereguysitsMetro Must be some insane luck then; I just don't agree that it's all luck when it's the strong majority for me. On your pinned comment below, you said you guys disbanded a "weekly no leaver" group. I would never join a group that said that, so seeing that just makes me think you don't put as much time or thought into group finding as I do; not that that's a bad thing. I always check timed keys with the WA and the comp. I'm really not trying to be a dick here; it's just been my experience so far. It's a great video and definitely shows how key pushing can be in the pug world.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@DonderoA7 No thought really can be put into it. When I queue, there are only usually 2-3 keys listed. So if you are willing to sit there for hours before joining a group, then ya that makes a lot of sense why you only have 7 keys not upgraded lol. This is just not a realistic number for anyone man. Even the best players in the world "disband" keys all day. The difference is, I keep the stats and you don't. You can download my sheet if you want and start keeping them. If you do, show me the stats some time!

ppl like that shaman in Vortex are the reason i stopped pugging as a tank , i just cant anymore :F

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I get that, but he is so obviously wrong. It makes zero impact on me. Its like getting into an argument with a toddler or something. They think they are being taken serious, but the other side knows nothing they say really holds any weight.

That melee shaman tho..... Probably even wasted 4p on 2 mobs with Chainlightning xD

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

100 percent!

I thought I had it bad as a fury DPS never getting invited to group...

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Probably better to never be invited this week tbh. Same result and less time wasted haha

My regular M+ grp has only one person who can deal with afflicted, and it’s a resto Druid. This week is just not fun. Blizz should change it so dps could at least delay the afflicted cast.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Most classes can do something. Sounds like you just had a bad comp. That's the one good thing about pugging. You can choose your comp easier.

@mkuhnactual

Жыл бұрын

shamans are my favorite to run with, pct is bis

Do yall do highish keys with community members? I used to time keys in BFA and SL and also got CE in the first raids of those expacs, but I totally restarted fresh and moved servers in Dragonflight S2 (Hadn't played since Nathria before that) so I've been looking for a guild or community that likes to do harder content but still has a growth mindset. I feel like it's so difficult to find people who are both relatively decent at the game AND don't have too much of their ego bound up in it so we can keep getting better

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

I do keys with people viewing the stream for sure, but don't have any organized set up to get players in or a guild or anything like that. I am basically just pugging but if some one I know has a key I need I will do it. That sort of thing.

did u notice ? yes . ther is no warlock in M+ since it took 4h per queue

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Huh? We play with warlocks all the time.

@wever4873

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro probably the 0.5% that play 16h a day to get the same rank that i got with a ret in a few day, i stoped warlock bc of queue Time, its a well know issue from warlock, maybe u see some warlock but even the few streamer that i was looking to keep my Warlock copium stoped BC they dont want to queue for days anymore, i Hope WE will see logs about queue Time per classes and m+ Meta classes, only subcreations IS doing a bit of it ( he also made a graph about classes in m+ over the years resulting of wl being the worst classes overall by far)

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

@@wever4873 you can just do your own key. There is no such thing as "queue time" as a metric.

here's a tip that you can take into any mmo or any game with the holy trinity also work with the military. "Don't walk in front of the tank."

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Works IRL too to be fair.

I wish there was an option to turn off IO gain for any given dungeon. The leader could just toggle a switch, and the ONLY thing that would change is that the dungeon had zero impact on your IO. That way you could advertise it as an IO-neutral run from the start and immediately filter all people looking for score. I’m sure they would appreciate it too.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Don't think anyone would pug keys above 20 without score though would they?

Great video. Unfortunate week.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Ya, things have recovered since luckily!

i just came back to retail after take a couple year break. ive managed to break 2500 through pugs only and this has been my past 2 weeks even to the point of first couple packs and someone leave which is brutal cause i feel perma locked to 19s max -- there really needs to be a punishment for leaving early similar to deserter in bgs but on a much longer timer just for example but like first leave in a months time lets say an hour lockout as a warning then if you do it again then pump it to like 12 hours(obv the punishment only goes to the first one who leaves before timer is up) idk the game is in a really good spot again imo which is why i came back but i feel like im hardstuck 2500 cause theres no punishment for leaving at the slightest inconvenience because they know nothing will happen

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Yup game is amazing but community is horrendous. No way to punish leavers sadly without also punishing push groups who decide they want to stop mid-key as well.

what do you mean you can't make this up? i literally had this happen to me this week LOL had 14 groups disbands trying to do brackenhide alone on 20's and it's the last 20 i need to have them all timed i had to give up this week cuz of tyranical man...this shit is just too annoying to do with afflicted ...it's kinda sad

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

"I can't make this up" means that realitiy is funnier than anything you could ever script or write to be intentionally funny. You would never think of some of these mistakes.

I tried a 14 NL today to get a key done for the week.... grp disbanded on first boss. 2 wipes.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

That boss is always a mess, probably worse the lower you go.

10:35 a fellow thelonelyisland enjoyer. Respect!

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Such clever stuff from them tbh. All these years later, love it!

A big reason I don't push past +17s is because it gets so toxic and mind numbingly stupid in pugs. I was in a Brackenhide where the tank kept pulling the last boss without all of us in the boss ring so it instantly killed us all. No matter how many times we told him, he refused to do it differently. We were already 10 minutes past the timer.

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

haha what level was that? thats pretty wild

@miah750

Жыл бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro a +16, it was wild. Everyone ended up leaving before we finished the key too

I came back to WoW for Shadowlands, after leaving for six years. Torghast was bad, the Maw was worse, but M+ was the worst experience for me. It divides the player base into two groups: NEETs who obsessively study the fights and master them in the first week, and players like me who only have a couple of hours a night tops to devote to the game. After the first week, every M+ group I joined disbanded. If the timer is going to fail, players simply won't stick it out. The person whose key was bricked is mad at everyone for underperforming, and the players who underperform are mad because the group is disbanding and they're missing out on the opportunity to learn from their mistakes and do better. It's a super toxic system that caters exclusively to elitists. It only took me a few months to decide that after a day of busting my butt at work to meet deadlines and earn merit-based raises, the last thing I wanted was to repeat that experience in a video game. Blizzard's wondering why players aren't coming back for DF, and in my case M+ is the sole reason. As long as their entire endgame gearing system is built around this toxic game mode, it's a hard pass for me. M+ would be great as a challenge mode for exclusive transmogs. As the quickest avenue to raid-tier gear, it's a breeding ground for rage and disdain.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Well first of all, people have returned with Dragonflight. Its easily the best received expansion in modern memory. Second of all, your issues are actually with Mythic+ PUGGING, not mythic plus in general. More specifically, your issues are with the community. The community in WoW is horrible. Backwards, really. Mediocre players acting like they are a top player in the world, and it trickles down everywhere. But its all avoidable. You aren't forced to pug Mythic+ and frankly, "a few hours a night" is more than enough to progress. I do about 16-18 hours a week of keys and I'm 3050 atm. A lot of this is just an issue with your perspective on the game and an inability to solve your own problems on it. At the end of the day, if that is how you will approach it, then not playing is certainly the most logical choice. But that is not on Blizzard at that point.

@berniemargolis4288

11 ай бұрын

I didn't mean to downplay your experiences or enjoyment of the game. Nor did I mean to imply that you're an elitist. The experiences I'm describing took place within guild runs, and that's what made them that much more painful. I'm sure it's no surprise to you that the guild in question is no longer active because too many of its players left the game. I honestly have no experience with DF. I'm just going off what Bellular and Taliesin are saying, and their reporting indicates that Blizzard's at a loss as to why their numbers continue to decline when the feedback for DF has been so positive. You can certainly make the argument that this is a "me" problem, but the fact is that millions of "me problems" add up to a Blizzard problem.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

@@berniemargolis4288 I don't think "millions" of "me"s all quit the game because of playing with bad players with M+ and again, this is something that is totally optional and solvable by those players, so at that point, is it really a blizzard problem? How can they fix that, if you wont try to fix it yourself? Its unfortunate that the community in this game has gotten to this point, but this is for US to solve as players for sure. We let it get that far, and I am trying my hardest to push back against the worst parts of the community in whatever way I can. But all the people who just quit the game over it only make those toxic players represent more of the majority.

@berniemargolis4288

11 ай бұрын

​@@heythereguysitsMetro​I'm not sure how I'm supposed to fix other players myself. If someone wants to leave, they're going to leave. I personally am willing to learn fights, and more importantly, I'm patient enough to help others learn fights. I never leave a run, no matter how long it takes. When a wipe happens, I don't point fingers. Instead I wonder what I could have personally done to prevent it. Unfortunately, after three or four runs in a row with no gear and hard feelings on everyone's part, I just find myself wondering why I'm paying Blizzard a monthly sub for that experience. I'm glad that you're able to laugh about it and turn it into online content, but I prefer to spend my time in other ways. If I was alone in that, you'd see players flocking back to the game right now. "But all the people who just quit the game over it only make those toxic players represent more of the majority." You nailed it. That's why I believe that, "The community in WoW is horrible. Backwards, really. Mediocre players acting like they are a top player in the world, and it trickles down everywhere." Degrading the key and cutting the loot in half for failing the timer is creating this community. You're already punished for missing the timer by wasting a bunch of time. Heaping more penalties on that just drives players away.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

@@berniemargolis4288 Play with a like-minded group of friends who will respect each other's time.

Hey man what is the WA you use for the interrupts please??? 😊

@heythereguysitsMetro

5 ай бұрын

Nothing special. Just your standard interrupt weak aura

I skipped getting keystone master this week as a healer the combo is both hard and people are just zerging to deaths

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Ya especially at lower keys, it must be really annoying to heal that affix.

One should think that people who play +20s and above would know how to avoid swirleys and other easily avoidable damage in dungeons they've probably done 50+ times but wow... PS: Just discovered your channel for the very first time and I'm addicted, lol.

@heythereguysitsMetro

9 ай бұрын

Glad to hear, there are playlists of funny stuff like this for both seasons of dragonflight here: season 1: kzread.info/head/PLLiZAuZZyU8n09m6067FhmnL4cGc-1TxQ season 2: kzread.info/head/PLLiZAuZZyU8ka60ziiMpGMA_aBfPzUG_H I might also recommend the stream highlights playlist:kzread.info/head/PLLiZAuZZyU8kgaF3h9E4NP8_6Z0CVruyI Some hilarious stuff has happened over the years! Glad you enjoy it!

@Draghful

9 ай бұрын

@@heythereguysitsMetro Thanks mate. I was digging through your channel right now anyways! :D

4:00 Too good LOL, "you didn't position him right" literally the least active tank fight in the game hahaha

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

haha

They really need to do something about these leavers.

@heythereguysitsMetro

11 ай бұрын

Ya sadly not much can be done without redesigning how groups are put together. Its a community problem first and foremost, so its on us to fix it.

I've never played WoW in my life and have no idea why I just watched this entire video, gg

@heythereguysitsMetro

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully you had some laughs either way.