I forgot to mention the Piers Audio 580 is 50w. With that amp, I lost about 30% of the bass compared to the Mcintosh MAC6700. Non-affiliated links Quebec dealer: www.centrehifi.com/fr/produit/674073-klh-model-five?searchterm=KLH Rest of Canada dealer: motetdistribution.com/find-klh.html Saskatchewan dealer: www.everestaudio.com/klh-model-5-floor-standing-speaker-pair.html

@pjo1964

2 жыл бұрын

I hope my Bryston 3bst would power it well. Company specs are 120w per ch 8 ohms, but they tested it as 155w rms per ch 8 ohms 20-20,000 hz.

@geoffreymills9932

2 жыл бұрын

I drive mine with a sherwood mosfet Amp 100wpc

@Jpanic4

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think it’s possible to drive these with just the SA3 instead of the stack at around 45wpc.

@grgicaleksandar011

2 ай бұрын

Hey Thomas,. If you had to guess what do you think R800i 845 would sound in synergy with the model 5?

Hello Thomas Sir, All your reviews are lively and great.! Very natural, and you make us feel as if we are actually listening to the speakers, just by the way you describe it. Thank you so much.

Thanks for the great review Thomas! I used to own vintage model 4's and Model 5's but Vintage look with modern tec is pretty cool to me! I really appreciate your revews and the genuine quality of your character as a great person.

Outstanding review. I never heard of the KLH Model 5, but your unbiased, clear description made me listen to the full review

Another great review. Thoughtful, informative and entertaining. You brought this experience to life. The sound clip at the end even reinforced what you heard with the Mac amp.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yeah I was originally going to record a sound demo with every single amp I drove it with to show up point but then the video would have been too long.

Terrific review Thomas. I loved that you had your friends listen to them, and the detail you went into talking about the speakers, especially amp matching. Thanks Thom.

@gokhanersan8561

2 жыл бұрын

Did you use an amp or does the soundbar have an amp built-in?

Great review, Thomas. Thorough and it nice you got feedback from your audiophile friends. Thanks!

Thomas, you are getting so good at reviews. Makes us feel like we are hearing it ourselves. Great job!!

You are the most through reviewer on KZread. I will never miss another video again!

Awesome review as usual. Comparing the sound signature with various equipment is very helpful to understand not only the speakers but the equipment as well. Well done.

You are really talented in your descriptions. In framing this review you really conveyed a clear idea of the sound profile..outstanding review!

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Another great review. I am old and still love vintage gear. Amazing that even with KZread compression you could hear the difference with the McIntosh 6700 seems like a good match and a fun sound.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, depending on the amp, it changes the experience big time and I am glad it shows in the sound demo.

Great review Thomas! I have had the Model 5s in my setup for about 3 months now and absolutely adore the speakers. I will never sell them. Ironically, the only area I think could be improved upon is the bass. Currently driving them with the Doge 10 and while I really enjoy the pairing it seems they are just a little shy of being able to fully bring out the glory of the Model 5 down low. Currently considering Vincent audio hybrid integrated (tube pre amp- solid state output stage - 150w into 8 / 250w into 4), Yamaha, Musical Fidelity, and after your review I'm going to have to look closer into McIntosh! Pairing with a powerful warm amp makes a lot of sense to me after listening to your experience. Thanks for bringing something new of value to the conversation on these speakers by discussing amp pairing in detail and the feedback from your friends is always helpful! Edit: I really think these Model 5s being a 6ohm speaker is in part what makes it a little tricky getting them to their highest potential.

In 1973 I owned a pair of KLH 5. After all the years I can still hear the Doobie Brothers in “Long Train Running” and “Listen to the Music” played on vinyl through those great sounding speakers. That was some of the sweetest sound I have ever heard! Those songs have never sounded as good on anything else for me, and I have owned more than my fair share of great sounding speakers. I have a nice audio setup now that suits me, but this new KLH 5 might be just too strong a temptation to go back to 1973 once again, maybe even better.

@CrispyOkra

2 жыл бұрын

The Wharfedale Lintons might be worth looking at as well. According to reviews they have an even better vintage sound than the Model 5.

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered a pair... That is the sound I am looking for.

@michaelwright1602

2 жыл бұрын

I know the sound you speak of, I remember the same tunes being played on the "record player" through similar speakers of the day. I was returned back in time when I played the first bit of music through the KLH Model 5's, Hotel California was my first pick... They sounded so good, sweet, ENVELOPING and BIG in my living room. I was darn near brought to tears. My 78 yo mother was sitting there with me, she could not believe how good these sounded, she actually stopped what she was doing to actually listen. It was an enjoyable experience for both of us. The sound was just incredible, we were both sitting there saying "Did you hear that?", we were both blown away. If you are on the fence, and have the money, do yourself a favor and purchase a pair of these, as I honestly do not believe you will regret it.

@bobbya8622

Жыл бұрын

@@emmanuellamp2977 there were many different vintage KLH speaker models (1960’s and early 1970’s), 5, 6, 7, 14B, 15, 17, 19 and 24 I found by Google search today. I am only personally familiar with the model 5 and 6 floor standing. It seems that the model 24 was a system of speakers (bookshelf) plus a turntable with amplification; from a review on the model 24 system I found the reviewer said that the sound was superb. Maybe the model 24 is what you remember? I think there were many more models from references I found online, also on Google - I searched for KLH vintage speakers.

Thomas you are such a great audiophile story teller. I have little interest in this speaker and yours is the first video I've watched about them, I just can't resist a Thomas and Stereo story time. I really loved the bit at the end about showing your setup to your mentor.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you! My new channel name Thomas and Stereo story time, I should make a mug with it.

Great A-B comparison. Thank you so much. They are and were no.1 on my list.

Nice review Thomas. Also I like the look of the speakers, nice to see some more old school look again.

Wow.. first of your videos I've watched. Incredible review format Thomas, really enjoyed.

Thanks for the solid unbiased review. I just ordered a pair and am excited to see how they sound paired with my Mac MA6300, Rega P3, with Ortofon LVB cart.

Hi Thomas, new to your channel and just subscribed...I love your layed back approach. I have in my system vintage KLH Model 5's a beautiful well crafted speaker inside and out....I needed to replace the caps in the crossovers, the build inside the Model 5 was so impressive.

Damn Thomas you really tested these. I'm glad you guys had fun! 👍😀

Hi Thomas another great review, my first set of speakers KLH 2 way in 1974, still miss them. Hope to get these speakers at some point. Take Care

Apreciate these videos as both advice and entertainment

I just found your channel. I had to sub. I bought my first Hi Fi system in 1975. I also prefer sealed cabinets. Back in my day you had to buy large speakers with ports to get deep bass. Man, you have some awesome gear!

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

Thomas, thank you for this. I was still in a quandary as to exactly how these KLH’s would present themselves, until your video. Beyond equipment pairing, and typical assessment, you got into the soul of the presentation. Plus different perspectives from others in your audio circle. Super comprehensive, and enjoyable. 🙏🏼

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! I try to share real world experience.

@xxgamerxxchrischris2325

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo heyy Thomas will u be able to help me find a really really good audio system my friend I would really really love to discuss on what I should get for speakers and stuff

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

​@@xxgamerxxchrischris2325 Trust me I would love to help every one of you. The problem is to find the right system is not that easy and I don't stuff half-ass. It takes days and days of emails going back and forth so rather, I made a video to help people do their homework first so I can just drop in at the end to give my opinion. Take a look at these. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHd_x9uYn9PUnag.html Then you can go to my playlist audio discussion here, its the 3rd one down. kzread.info/dron/MVtSHXafOEcFN10FYygDTA.htmlfeatured

@markd4292

3 жыл бұрын

Hey John. Did you get the KLH 5's? If so what are you powering them with? I have to demo them. I like that they are sealed cabinet b/c I don't have much room to move a speaker out from the wall, especially rear ported types. I may have at max 2 feet to move something out. I am thinking of perhaps paring it with a Parasound amp or maybe even just try out the Outlaw integrated amp. Not sure yet.

@riccitone

3 жыл бұрын

@@markd4292 Hi Mark, I don’t have them. I was considering them (or a similar design) down the road. I’ve just been following different perspectives on them, but Thomas really does brings us there. But I’m thinking my room might be a bit too small for them. I’m currently running QuadS2’s through a creek amp. These would be a very different sound. Would probably need to try a different kind of amp as well.

Nice, they seem to be the ones that give you the best of both worlds. Enjoy, because that the ultimate goal!

one of the best reviews I have watched. Makes me quite envious of the electronics.

Excellent description and overview. I grew up on all paper cones with woofers of ten inches and up. I still like paper. If I had the space I would buy these without hearing them because I know the sound you are describing. Thank you for this video. Great !!!

Waiting for mine to arrive in a couple of weeks. I hope they sound as good in my room too!! Thanks for all your awesome reviews, Thomas. it's always so refreshing to watch your reviews!! I think you are one of those lucky ones to have a bunch of audiophile friends to have different views/thoughts in the gear you review. Their contribution is so valuable too.

@rensopinto2139

3 жыл бұрын

Mine too man. So it’s the end of July huh? My dealer only said July and I was going to email him to ask exactly when. I got the walnuts.

@astertm99

3 жыл бұрын

@@rensopinto2139 Well now they say it will be in September :( Something is telling me this could even be a longer wait..!!

@rensopinto2139

3 жыл бұрын

@@astertm99 they wrote you? I heard end of august, first week of sept..

@astertm99

3 жыл бұрын

@@rensopinto2139 I ordered them through my local audio dealer - he emailed me and said it will be early September when we get it. But I wouldn't hold my breath on it :)

@rensopinto2139

3 жыл бұрын

@@astertm99 yeah same here. I gave him half of the payment to hold onto mine. I can wait though. If it’s after that I might be tempted to go with used heresy 4’s.

Thomas - Hey great review on the KLH Model 5's. I think I'll add a pair to my collection as well. Keep up the great reviews!

Hey Thomas. KLH was the speaker that got me going into this hobby. I owned 3 different models and really liked them all. Mr. Kloss created some amazing speakers with terrific performance.Thanks for the video.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Nice, I wish I can listen to some older KLH

@OscarSanchez-tk3hx

3 жыл бұрын

Ah Mr Henry Kloss a genius I own some of the award radios and even Advent speakers I gonna look forward to purchase the model ,5 for my birthday

Love the detail and not vague analysis. Told me what I wanted to know. Thankyou

@ThomasAndStereo

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

Thomas, I "enjoy" how you do your reviews. Getting your buds to listen to the same speakers is a great idea. Your reviews are excellent! Mr. Pete-----------> aging hippie

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

Great review Thomas !! These are definitely on my radar .. alot to think about…

Thank you for yet another intelligent and well-presented video

I've got 4 pairs of the KLH and they sound awesome with all kinds of music, I have a wide variety of music and they handle all of it with ease

Thanks for the balanced review. Most reviewers only focus on the good.

Hi Thomas, I absolutely love your channel! Thank you for all of your time and efforts to really impart your genuine thoughts and feeling about audio equipment. It’s clear that you really put a lot of heart into all of your videos, and I must say, it’s truly appreciated! I wasn’t sure how to email you, so I figured I would just leave you a message on your latest video. I recently purchased the SVS Prime Pinnacles and for their relatively meager price of $800.00 a speaker ($1,600 for the pair), I think they’re pretty special. I’ve had a hard time finding a speaker that has detail, but isn’t too bright. This speaker has done that in my space where other speakers really struggled (my area is not sound treated), but they also have a surprisingly controlled bass response and a wonderfully transparent sound stage IMO. Probably their best feature is that I can see only through just about any source at them and they do a pretty great job - they’ve been super versatile. Perhaps my only complaint is a thin lower midrange, but there’s always a trade off and all things considered, I believe this is a very smooth, balanced loud speaker. There aren’t many reviews of the Pinnacle towers - it would be amazing if you were able to do one. I would love to hear your thoughts about them! For what it’s worth, for home theater I’ve paired them with an SVS Ultra center and two SVS Prime satellite speakers for ceiling mounted rears. I also have two HSU Research subs that have been great. Anyways, think about checking out the SVS Prime Pinnacle towers. I haven’t seen you review anything recently that is quiet like them. Regardless, keep up the great work!

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I actually owned the SVS prime complete set a few years ago. I remember it being warm sounding. I liked it and that is why I asked SVS to send me a pair of Ultra which I have made a video on it. I can't make a video based on my memory because how I listen to speakers has changed over the years.

@ronnzi

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks for getting back to me, Thomas! Understood on your other videos, the Prime Pinnacles though are actually newer speakers from SVS that are neither the original Primes nor the Ultras, though I'm not sure it would be fair to say their somewhere in the middle of those two either. From what I understand, they're much closer to the Ultras in overall quality, but with a much different cabinet design that really changes their sound. Each woofer has it's own chamber within the cabinet with their own ports. They are also a much smoother sounding speaker than either the Primes or the Ultras from what I hear, but I haven't heard the others to compare myself. I've seen a decent number of people say they prefer the Pinnacles to both the Ultras and the Primes, for what that's worth. If any of this sounds interesting to you, you might want to ask SVS about getting you a pair - I would really love to hear your thoughts on them. I’m sure you have so many different options when it comes to speakers you think are worth taking a look at, but you might want to look into the Pinnacles specifically, because I think they’re pretty great. Thanks again!

Been waiting for this review...and it was worth the wait! I've been enjoying these speakers for a few months now, and your assessment more or less matches mine. When I first got them, I was concerned that I wouldn't be satisfied with the relatively non-"punchy" bass, but I've not felt any lack in the bass performance. In fact, the bass is excellent. It obviously doesn't go super low, but it sounds very natural to me. I've definitely had your experience of being drawn away from what I was doing to just enjoy the music. These are the most emotionally engaging speakers I've had, and for me that's what it's all about. My previous speakers were Tekton Impact Monitors, which are technically excellent, but they just don't speak to my heart like these. I'm driving them with a Purifi-based amp from VTV Amplifier, which has plenty of power. I think the combo sounds great, but I haven't tried them with any other amps. I'm VERY curious to hear the upcoming Models 3 and 7.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter for sharing.

@claricecarter4750

2 жыл бұрын

Are you using a DAC with these speakers and if so which one?

I am glad to see that I am not the only guy that loves his woofer speaker with his tweeters all in the same package 🙂

Wonderful review as alway. Thx Thomas!

Excellent information. You're adding scope to my listening abilities. 😊

Love the KLH vintage looks. Reminds me of dad’s Sony speakers from the 80’s. Enjoyed your review and explanation about draw of the vintage sound. Looks like KLH has nailed it with this version of model 5. I see you have the Doge 8 pre … look forward to your review of it. I have the 2021 XLR version with Telefunken and Brimar yellow tubes.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I got some Brimar tubes with it too.

I was given a pair of old KLH Heritage USA bookshelf speakers. 6.5” and tweeter. They are impressive for their size. I made them my garage speakers and have a very nice sounding garage.

Was looking for true Acoustic Suspension speaker. Glad KLH makes them!!!

Thomas is the Professor of hifi. Really enjoyed the breakdown of the vintage speakers and I’m not surprised they demand quite a bit of power to drive them. Bigger woofers on the vintage speakers, and also for the lesser vintage, a high level impedance forcing amps to work harder.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I mean you can good sound with a normal amp but if you really want to bring out the full potential of a sealed port design, you need power.

@crossover706

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo - Thanks much Thomas! As usual great review! Been wondering how the model 5 will pair with the new Marantz model 30. Not something you’ve reviewed, but would be great to hear your take on it and the combo.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

@@crossover706 Thanks, I have never heard the Model 30 but as long as it is on the warm side and has a bit of power, I would consider it myself.

@ontherun8

3 жыл бұрын

@M B High level impedance forcing amps to work harder ? AFAIK it's exactly the opposite !

@xxgamerxxchrischris2325

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo heyy man do u think you can be able to help me find some speakers

For those about to rock...We salute you Thomas!!!

Thomas, you out did your self on this one. Thanks for your efforts

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thanks for the review, love the old school look.

Well, I hooked up the KLH M5's, and OMG! This is the sound I have been dreaming of. This brings back the days of my youth. The big cabinet speakers that enveloped the room. These KLH do that and more. The soundstage is incredible in my room. You feel like you are sitting right there at the foot of the stage. The highs and miss are just sweet to the ear, I could listen to these all day long, they simply bring music to life. I will never go back to a ported bookshelf speaker, I don't care who makes them or the price. The SVS Ultra's are going on the block. The KLH bass, right now, I do not see pairing these with my SVS SB3000 subs. I really do not see the need. The bass, again, in my room, is easily hitting down in the 30hz range according to other articles I have read. I will still try the SB3000, or both, and see how everything plays together. I kind of doubt I will keep them in the mix for two channel, but may leave them for two channel movie night. I found all of the reviews I have seen on these difficult to believe, but I was proven wrong. These are staying, and I see no need to continue looking for "that sound", as I have found it. I hooked these up to my SVS Soundbase and streamed off my iPad via Apple Music... If what I heard is any indication, these will sound even better playing solid source material. I don't know what KLH did, but they nailed it with the Model 5's.

@user-xx2hj7xb6b

6 ай бұрын

The Zero Fidelity reviewer said the opposite - these speakers don't seem to disappear, "you know where the music is coming from." Overall, he liked the KLH5s, but cautioned that people who play lots of classical music with a full orchestra might be disappointed. It sounds like they work best in a smallish room.

@michaelwright1602

6 ай бұрын

@@user-xx2hj7xb6b They were very good speakers, I have since replaced with a pair of Zu DW6 Supremes...

I’m currently in a very small room and can only really support bookshelf speakers so went with the Buchardt S300s. But these look perfect for a larger space, when I move in a couple of years I think I’ll probably invest in a pair of these for the front room.

Best review yet on model 5s. Now lets get an update in the braun 810s and compare ir ADS 810S.

sealed boxes tend to have good mid-bass and are particularly good in smaller rooms

this is the sound i have been waiting to hear , it reminds me of the old mission 710 , i can not afford them now but its the one for the future KLH YOU HAVE BROUGHT THAT VINTAGE SOUND BACK SOUND BACK

Thank you. Very interesting review. It sounds like these might be very good for most classical music as long as you add a sub for organ passages. I am old enough to remember when 10" woofers we're generally for bookshelf speakers. 😉 Technically Acoustic Suspension is distinct from sealed in that the driver's parameters are specifically designed to use the compression of air in the smallish box as part of the suspension. In a way it is a matter of degree but in a classic sealed system the box is primarily serving to capture the rear wave rather than to be a part of Qms.

First time listener/watcher, and I thought your review was very good. I am very much considering purchasing the Model 5's, if there's room in our living room. I'm a bit "late to the table" regarding watching this review, though. And the main takeaway I get(from your review, and then reading a slew of comments below) is that the only amp that will make these sound great is the McIntosh MAC6700, or a similar McIntosh. I understand that your thoughts are that the amp generally needs to be "warm", and it needs to have a bit of power, but after all was said and done, I still get the feeling that the only way to go is with a very expensive McIntosh amp. Now I'm not so sure whether I want to purchase the Model 5's. I don't know if my amp is capable of making them sound their best. If I'm getting ready to plunk down $2K+ on a pair of speakers, I'd like to know my amp can "make them sing".

A very interesting and detail analysis. Thank you.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Was so excited for this one I streamed it in the car on the way to work hahah. The equipment matching here really surprised me as other reviewers said they sound good with everything. I found that hard to believe, so I'm glad you clarified for us the differences. Thank you! Mcintosh has the signature of adding white gloves and beauty to speakers, so sounds like KLH really benefits from that, for other speakers it can be "boring". Now I need Mcintosh gear and KLH, boy life is tough hahah. Thanks Thomas

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Need to win a few lotto tickets to keep up with this hobby.

@robk5745

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo hahah more day trading and more RV sales, just have to work harder lol

Super presentation... well done. Thank you.

The Mac setup sounds so much warmer with tons of clarity. Thanks for sharing.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, the strong bass brings out the strength of these speakers.

🤗. ANOTHER GREAT REVIEW FOR “OLD SCHOOL “ AUDIOPHILES 😍😍😍

I started my audio journey with the Original Large Advents,and I'll never the BASS ,good to 32 hz fundamental...midrange was clear but a tad shy on the very top end;I'm in the process of having them "re-foamed",totally worth it

Excellent, detailed review. Thank you.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Gorgeous speakers by KLH!👌

I had one like that in the 70s. Recently I bought a pair of speakers which did not sell. Got it cheap and spent some money on new crossovers. Man it sounded great.

recently listened to a pair / set of these, in a specialist Hi-Fi store. Man these definitely sounded fantastic, and I have Focal Chorus speakers..

G'day Tomas great review mate you've picked my interest about these speakers. I love there look😎 and l will audition them after your review thanks.👍🎧😁

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Have fun. If you don't hear the rich bass at the store, ask them to bring out the nuclear reactor.

@shanestephenson8423

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo lol I think the quote is she cannot take anymore Jim 🤣👍🎧 I'll bring along my Michi S5 800w into 4 omhs should get it done 🤪Tomas

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

@@shanestephenson8423 HAHA 🤣🤣🤣

I have these paired with the Yamaha as1200s. I never tried them with the McIntosh. But I have found a solution that works for me to take care of the edginess that you are referring to with brighter sounding amps. If I EQ the 200hz region to plus 2db you can get a warmer less peaky sound. Erin’s audio corner says there is a baffle step mismatch in the measurements in this region where there is a slight lack in the mid bass. This really makes this set up much fuller in sound and almost perfect to my ears. I do this using the digital EQ on my WiiM pro. I found you can’t achieve this using the analog EQ on the Yamaha or the attenuators on the back of the speakers. Just my experience. Cheers.

Wow very impressive review Thomas! The fantastic review itself aside I’m so impressed with the filming, lighting, audio, editing, and also getting multiple audio friends to try the speakers!?! I think we viewers can take for granted how many hours it takes to put together a review this polished and all the practice in front of a camera to come across as natural as you do - especially without a “professional” video crew doing everything!! Well done. *slow golf clap* (Ps I have had these speakers for awhile now after having a few other pairs over the years and love these!! Don’t see myself switching for a long time. Have them paired with a Hegel amp and it gives lots of bass control, power, warmth and imaging Hegel is known for and makes them come alive)

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, yeah, I was up until 2am in the morning and was worked on this video for many days. I can see a H300 Hegel pairing well with it but I have never heard the newer Hegel.

Excellent review and analysis!

@ThomasAndStereo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Wonderful video! Nice review!

@ThomasAndStereo

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Thank you for the well rounded review. I really am intrigued by these speakers but was afraid my McIntosh MA-6600 might be overkill. Now I think I may order a set.

@ThomasAndStereo

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, your 6600 will not be overkill for it.

Okay Thomas. This video convinced me to hit the subscribe button! Great job as usual and you're setting the comprehensive review mark so high that it's going to be very difficult for other Y.T. reviewers to keep pace with you. Only one critique comment for this one, if the speaker has no port then how can it be a sealed port? It is a sealed box design with no port, yes? Otherwise, 60 Minutes should be showing this video to the masses next Sunday :)

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah I made a mistake, it should be sealed cabinet. Thanks for subscribing and I assume you hit the notification button?

@Audioloon

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo Now, I have hit the notify button.

You may be able to get more bass when using tubes or brighter sounding equipment by using acoustical treatments in the room. Bass absorption behind the speaker may help.

I have the original 5's. They truly rock. They have twin midrange drivers side by side. If you can find & review them and compare with these "new" ones that would be very interesting. Thanks for this excellent video.

@ThomasAndStereo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

I took my 1974 KLH Model 32s out of mothballs. I replaced the capacitors with better quality modern audio grade capacitors and replaced the iron core inductors with high quality air core inductors of similar value. I reinforced the inside of the cabinet and applied Noico sound deadening mats inside and on the backs of the speaker magnets and frame plus inserted sheets of 3/4” Rockwool on top of the Noico and put more fiberglass fill inside. The cloth surrounds of the woofers were recoated with Permatex. Overkill? Maybe but I considered them relatively cheap modifications and the improvement was remarkable. I made up a new set of higher quality speaker cables and with my old 1979 JVc 60wpc receiver it was well worth the time and it was minimal expense to improve a classic KLH 2 way Speaker. Plus it was an enjoyable project.

I’m also glad they have the walnut finish available in the U.S. now !

@robk5745

3 жыл бұрын

yeah man so much nicer, waiting for them to be in stock

@markd4292

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I am waiting for the walnut too. I have yet to demo them however. If I like them then there is the matter of what to pair it with. I'm thinking the Parasound 2250. Or maybe a Schitt amp? Arcam? I don't know.

@robk5745

3 жыл бұрын

@@markd4292 Thomas says Mcintosh hybrid did wonders for the klh 5, and I trust him.

I bet Mr. Vintage loved it!

Thanks for the review. You and your audiophile posse are the ish! Your reviews are extremely insightful. I've got these on order right now but it sounds like I might have to upgrade my electronics from the iotavx stack I've got. I've been thinking about a Hegel Rost or a moon 250i but it sounds like these speakers need more juice. Take care man.

@TheHammerofDissidence

3 жыл бұрын

I'm running the stack with the 5's and it will carry you through just fine. I'm still wondering what my next amp will be also.

@crankthetunes7989

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheHammerofDissidence thanks for the reply! I just found a used McIntosh 252. I might have to sell some gear for that to happen though.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah those amps are quite revealing. Not sure it is the right match but I have not heard it.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Let us know how it sounds.

great review!

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

'Scotty, man, I need more power' made me laugh so hard! You made my day! Thank you! Again, the synergy between amp and speakers seems to be at the forefront of audio nirvana.

Yes , back in the 90’s I was chasing detail, big Focal custom system , switched to Vandersteen and some tubes. Sold it last winter and down sized. Pandemic $

Thanks, great review. I had a pair of the original KLH 5 and AR-3a, beautiful walnut veneers, so I'm glad to hear the shadow of the original 5 is present.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

I actually almost bought a pair of AR4x yesterday.

Thomas, I love your stories, keep them coming. Speakers today, sterile, that is what I hear in these modern speakers... I currently have the SVS Ultras, the bookshelf models. I had the big Emotiva towers, have some Klipsch, some Wharfedales, etc... Nothing does it for me. After awhile, they all sound small and boxy, no excitement and quite honestly, not that much fun to listen to. I want that old school sound I grew up with, those big cabinets, BIG Woofers, etc... Throw the Led Zeppelin on, The Who, Floyd, Dire Straits, Yes, Jimmy Hendrix, Queen, some old Stones, Muddy Waters, Boston, Ted Nugent, The Beastie Boys.... So much stuff out there that was never meant to be played on speakers the size of shoe boxes, it is time to regress! And screw the detail, LOL! I want to tap my toe and say hell ya! LOL! I am genuinely excited, and I hope this silly speaker nonsense can come to an end for awhile. I did just order a pair. I love the sealed box, these should play well with my SVS SB3000 subs... Yes, I'm a bass head... This should be fun, I have a few A/B amps, some D's, along with a couple of Schiit preamps and DACs. I should be able to make these sing and find the sound I am looking for. Thank you for the review Thomas, you and Mr Vintage sealed the deal. If this does not fill the bill, a set of X-Statik open baffles from GR-Research, if the parts are available.

YOU GOT ME, I MUST HAVE THESE.

Nice job as always. If I owned these I would cover the front baffle with wool around the tweeter, midrange and compare the sound. This is how the Cizek 1 was designed back in 1976 except it used foam. A nearly identically sized ac suspension 2 way 10” speaker set up exactly the same way as the KLH. With a q of .6 they had great sounding bass and crisp highs but lacking in the mids somewhat.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, thanks for letting me know, I don't know much when it comes to vintage speakers.

@damianzaninovich4900

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t either but these Cizeks left an impression on me. The 1,2 and 3. Great fast sounding tight bass. Gave me an appreciation for Acoustic Suspension speakers versus reflex loading, passive radiator types.

I own a pair of 900B's and the clarity and bass are just beautiful,and if that sound quality continues ... i am dying to hear these model 5's in person.

Those look beautiful.

hello I discovered these historic speakers, which I would like. in France we have cabasse historique cabasse has produced and still produces over the years, wonderful speakers. models from the 70s / 80s always ready to offer the best thanks for this presentation.

@jimtek59

2 жыл бұрын

I'm really surprised that being French you didn't mention the oldest speaker manufacturer in France named Epsilon and their legendary Heritage XLS 15?

@Targuer

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimtek59 eclipson of course has produced exemplary models. it s a very well known look, films from the 70s / 80s often have them in the sets. I have a weakness for my Cabasses, sampan and clipper. thank you

Mine will be here in the next two weeks😎😎😎

Thanks Thomas, you kept me up past my bedtime with this one! I've got a set of these on order in English Walnut and am so happy to hear that you, and at least a few of your friends, LOVED them. I'll be powering them with a nice vintage Marantz 2265B...warm, rich, and hopefully powerful enough that I'll get most of that great bass you describe from your McIntosh. I'd love to hear how you and your friends find them compared to the Wharfedale Lintons. That's what I'm currently using and I love their warm, full, musical sound. But they lack detail and transparency IMO, so I'm hoping the KLHs add that without losing what I love with the Lintons.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Nice, I did ask Wharfedale of a pair of Lintons but they don't have any stock!

@kenmckee5428

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThomasAndStereo I hope Wharfedale will follow through and provide a pair of Lintons. FWIW, I'm looking at the KLH 5 and Wharfedale Linton to keep company with the Large Advents that I bought off of a showroom floor in 1974.

@WelcomeToTheFeast

2 жыл бұрын

Scott, I'm a vintage guy and planning to have this KLH Model 5 as my first modern speakers. I have a bunch of vintage monster receivers. Could you share with me your experience if it matches well with your Marantz 2265B?

@scottroodvoets9013

2 жыл бұрын

@@WelcomeToTheFeast Hi Wendell. I have not done any comparisons of these speakers with different amps or receivers, so can't say how the Marantz 2265B pairs with them compared to other amps. I will say that I'm VERY pleased with the combination. Warm, full, punchy, tight, articulate...a VERY nice overall sound. I'd say they lean towards rich and warm rather than open and airy, but compared to the Wharfedale Lintons they do provide a more articulate high end and a bit leaner mid/bass range.

@scottroodvoets9013

2 жыл бұрын

I'll add that I've kept the Lintons. Due to space constraints I'm only using the KLHs at present with the Lintons stored away. I found both speakers were wonderful; different but both wonderful. Younger friends with better top-end hearing preferred the KLHs, but myself and older friends were at least as fond of the warmer fullness of the Lintons.

I just got my Model 5 hooked up with a Fezz Silver Luna tube amp. A but thin but I have a Rel sub tied in to fatten it up 😊

I'll also have to concur with what Thomas says here about power. Though I don't really have audiophile type amplification on these (I have a Yamaha AVR Aventage RX1080), the receiver does allow me to either power these at small (as low as 40hz cutoff) vs large (full range). Despite popular advice of always setting your speakers to small unless you speakers can do 20-ish hz., with these there is a very noticable loss of bass quality if you do a low pass cutoff. They sound better driven at full range with as much power as is available. Also I've tried, but any sort of electronic room EQ doesn't do the speakers any favors, so I run the receiver in the "front" setting which leaves the speakers uncorrected, and just eq's rest of the system around that baseline. Every room is different though so maybe EQ will help in other peoples situations. I did find these easy to place in room and blend with my subwoofer though, and having the crossovers overlap (sub is still at 60hz) hasn't caused any issues, sounds great. Toe-in affected my sound the most, backwall placement was not an issue, I could get pretty close with no noticable change (I'm not a stickler for imaging though, I just like some soundstage and non-exaggerated bass response).

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Takes me back when I owned a six in my youth! Now I want the 5's! Trying to pair this with a McIntosh; however, the MAC 6700 is discontinued. Does anyone know if the McIntosh MA252 Integrated Amplifier works equally well with the 5's? It's 100 wpc @8 ohms and 160 @4. Mac has a MA352 (200 watts @8 ohms, 320 @4), but it's over 22" deep vs 18 for the MA 252.

Hey I bought these when they first came out this year. I tried not to overpraise them to others, but I've been very happy with them vs where I came from. I didn't realize the soundstage was so big comparatively. Probably cause my old speakers were omnipolar.

@jasonreyes9504

3 жыл бұрын

What did you have before these?

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the sound stage is very big. Well, depends on the amp driving it.

@jonuiuc

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonreyes9504 I had old Mirage omnisats (the original big ones, not the nanosats)

Third kind a filmed in my home town Enjoyed this

These definitely benefit from a warmer sounding amp. The McIntosh made that obvious. However in the Cayin Swap out for NOS UK made Mullards ECC35 for 6SL7 and ECC32 for 6SN7 also EL34 for the KT88's. They warm up those amps considerably and would add that tube 3D sound stage. I think that would be a great match

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, good to experiment.

Nice review Tomas. I am looking forward to KHL7.

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

You and me both! Now, how do I get one...

@faludabutt8253

3 жыл бұрын

Thomas & Stereo u buy one 😁

@faludabutt8253

3 жыл бұрын

And sell to me half the cost 😃

Interesting Thomas. It's something like that, that I am after: a vintage like, nostalgic like sound: I don't want to analyze the music but yet I want it satisfying even for 2 ch. movies. It has punch, not very bright but not very warm either. Something for a room with a little slap back and something for space friendliness and something for a low ceiling room. I have to demo them next. Wonder how they will be with a Parasound amp or an Acram amp.

Looking forward to the Model 7 review :-)

@ThomasAndStereo

3 жыл бұрын

I hope I can get one. Maybe I should put my Model 5 up forsale while waiting for the Model 7.