This event was the last straw for me.
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It seems that there is no goldilocks zone for smash commentary, you’re always doing something wrong. TK has had enough, and he’s telling you exactly how he feels.
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If Coney yelling YAHHOOOOOOOO after everything Mario does is wrong then I don't wanna be right
@sferris9785
Жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO WORD
@jejetube7667
Жыл бұрын
PREACH
@joey5745
Жыл бұрын
I personally found it annoying but I didn't go twitter and harass ppl about it, I just kept my thought to myself and appreciated the other great moments from him and the others,
@scouthatesrainbows
Жыл бұрын
Based. I hope Kurama goes to more tournaments and makes deep runs so Coney can do that shit every major
@benjaminobi
Жыл бұрын
That bit was so funny 🤣🤣
TK keeping it this real just makes me like him even more. Completely justified anger/frustration.
@PandamoniumBruu
Жыл бұрын
he don't keep it real since he keep defending Nairo
I would even go further as to say that TK is the perfect blend of "Esports" and "casual" commentating, and to me that's why he's the best and good at commentating any fighting game. Maybe not the commentator the smash community deserves but the one we need for sure. Keep doing you TK.
@fissilewhistle
Жыл бұрын
I would go even further further beyond and say the whole Black Plague crew are the top tier Smash commentators.
@numa2k147
Жыл бұрын
I play Street Fighter and watched smash a few times. TK is my default commentor for all Smash events I watch otherwise I'm good lol
There’s a famous phrase that “you could be the sweetest peach in the world, and some people just won’t like peaches.” This applies to smashers, except they’re just wildly allergic to all fruit known to man
@aegeon5650
Жыл бұрын
It’s worse than that. Instead of accepting the fact that they just don’t like peaches, they get mad at the peaches for not tasting how they want it to
@TheDriver458
Жыл бұрын
@@aegeon5650 and even if the peach tastes exactly how they want it, there’s always gonna be someone who‘ll complain about the peach NOT having the pit still inside.
@ts4gv
Жыл бұрын
good punchline Bri that’s hilarious
Tk is the man and his commentary is exceptional. We should just drown out the hate with appreciation posts lmao. There are wayyyyyy more fans than haters
I love your commentary style, you and Coney and Charles add a layer of "not taking it too seriously" maturity that makes it fun to watch the sweatiest of games. People who play smash at the highest level sometimes have difficulty connecting with a wider audience socially and it makes is really difficult for casual people to consume and watch the game they love. You guys help bridge that gap. Talk your shit! You've more than earned it.
Been here since 2009. Just turned 31. The older I get, the further I distance myself from the Twitter Smash community. It's not worth it, it's a bunch of fuckin children just arguing over dumb bullshit. Keep doing your thing man, it's no coincidence that you are where you are now. You don't deserve to have to deal with all that shit.
TKbreezy always spitting facts.
The whole TK no longer into it reminds me of that tweet… “I like waffles.” “So you hate pancakes.” Bitch that’s a whole new sentence 😂
Y’all killed it on commentary. Just a bunch of homies having a good time watching good smash.
@Loganaman
Жыл бұрын
And that’s the sort of stuff I want to see, if I wanted to see an esports analyst talking about the fundies happening, I’ll wait for the pros to make an analysis
confirming the debates that existed on smashboards about commentators being unnecessary btw
This is shocking to me. Your commentary has always been top tier. Don't change a thing, TK. Your style is the perfect blend of analytical and hilarious and fun. You, EE, and Coney are the goats.
Felt this for real so I can’t even imagine how it could be for someone on your level. Appreciate everything you do, TK
Coney DO be meming.
I thought the energy you guys had was so infectious and fun, and I also appreciated that you guys got a lot more serious around the top 8. It gave the whole event a great balance.
@MediumDon
Жыл бұрын
Also I think that the community should be more vocal about when we enjoy the commentary, and not just criticizing it. Same with production
This shits disgusting. I feel horrible that he even had to explain himself.
Totally agree with everything here, it's incredibly frustrating when people want to dismiss/criticize what is your professional trade and life's work, especially when there's nothing they bring to the table. To your point on leniency in Melee commentary compared to Ultimate, I think it really boils down to average viewer age and what they believe they're entitled to. Melee scraped by for years with simple 240p vids with blown out mic commentary that lacked a professional air (IMO this is what makes smash iconic) so their viewer base sees how far they've come and knows how good they have it, on top of just being generally older and more mature. Ultimate on the other hand, while still having a healthy number of older viewers, also served as a gateway into Smash for a lot of kids, like actual children, who never were exposed to the olden days of smash commentary and don't know how good they have it. On top of this, they've got more free time to be on social media and less of an understanding of what they're really even complaining about in the first place. People say stupid shit when they're kids, and while it can be hard to separate the uneducated from the genuine trolls, it all blends together to create the discourse we have today. Keep doing you TK, you're a staple in the industry, a certified GOATed commentator, and someone who tells it like it is. Long time viewer and listener, first time commenter, but thought I'd give my take :)
Thanks for being such a big part of the community, I always love it when you are commentating! You are incredible at it and a pillar of the scene✨💖
Block train on Twitter is definitely the future lol. I'm getting tempted.
TALK TO EM TK
Hard to disagree with any side other than the one with a Decade of proven excellence. Stay killing it as the Best, Smash Commentary is some badass art and thank you for pioneering it
It was my first time watching a smash tournament live and I thought it was great commentary, it was good between the small talk they did and then part where they actually talk about the match it was a good balance. Keep up the great work man
Speak your truth, TK
@Loganaman
Жыл бұрын
I don’t even think it’s just HIS truth, it’s THE truth bruh I wish more people thought like this honestly
@Gigakoopz
Жыл бұрын
There's no "your truth", there is either THE truth or no truth. It sounds very disingenious when you say "your truth". It's how people create narratives.
I'm never really able to watch the live streams of tourneys, and the youtube re-plays never have the chat displayed. Genuinely had no idea the community was being this rude. I can't remember if you were commentating during the Leo vs Dabuz, but that was some of my favorite commentary ever! The whole couch talking about the history and legend of Leo and his Joker, even though it wasn't directly talking about what was happening on the match, was really great!
it's probably just the loud minority cus in my opinion as a casual viewer who watches most tourneys, commentary will either not matter or it adds to the experience in a great way it doesn't really detract from the experience unless its straight trash charles my favorite, but i love analysis like desks they do in LoL and CS
@hyunweewoo
Жыл бұрын
twitter is also the worst social media for people's mental lol
This don't make no sense to me. I started watching comp smash in the Smash 4 days & I always got hyped when it was TK & EE on the mic, to the point where when I had friends over to watch tourneys I'd point out that we'd be getting the Black Plague on the mic for top 8. None of them thought commentary mattered & thought I was out of mind, but now mentioning TK or EE is a selling point to get them to watch certain matches. Keep doing what you're doing TK, you're goated & you'll always be my fav on the mic.
your commentary with vish, dajuan and hugs was so funny, it brought me back to the east coast vs west coast trash talk days.
All TK has ever worked and advocated for is a healthy and thriving community. When toxic people sling their bs around they just cause destruction to everything around them. I wish ppl understood the impact of their negativity has not just on their communities, but on their loved ones and themselves.
I feel all of this, it's just so exhausting dealing with what's on twitter or anywhere else when I'm trying to enjoy the game, both spectator and player wise. You're always a joy to listen to though TK whenever I hear ya on commentary, keep up the great work dude!
I feel like the Smash community suffers from having a silent majority of people who are chill and just love to play the game while having a vocal minority of people who are just unbelievably negative and toxic, who want nothing more than to bring others down. I think part of this stems from sites like Twitter and Reddit basically encouraging people to take really extreme stances on things, and people not caring/calling you a meat rider when you post something positive about someone. Twitter and Reddit users who use the site too much also seem to have a bit of a disconnect from reality and will see commentators less as a person with feelings and more as just a talking head that they're free to criticize without much push back.
Commentary adds flavor. Every time a set is on stream with no commentary, I always see people asking "y no commentary?" They want it. They just don't realize they want commentary.
TK ive been watching you and EE since smash 4. You 2 both have the best chemistry and make the most mundane matches (bayo v bayo, steve v steve -_-) actually fun to engage and watch. Whatever happens bro you guys will have a following and fans to back you up. We got you!
As someone who doesn't know anything about Smash but really enjoy watching Smash matches I have to say that watching those matches with commentary it's great, listen your reactions to good plays explaining why that play is amazing it's just very fun, and even when you talk about anything else is fun too, I think it just feels better to watch something with someone, and it feels like that. Just don't take people on twitter or Reddit or any social media serious, some of them are really a cancer growing bigger and bigger every year, I don't use Twitter very often, but every time I log in there's a stupid discussion and people talking shit to each other, every fucking time. I know it's hard to do when your job need you to know stuff about events and players, but learning what is useful to you in social media and ignoring anything else will make your life and job so much easier and relaxing. Hope you find a way to enjoy doing what you love! Good luck!
MORE THAN HAPPY to be stuck with you, TK.
You literally made me get into competitive smash because of your commentary. Glad you don’t have doubts because I don’t watch sets not commentated by you ong
Bruh that commenter folded like a napkin
Man, these people don't know how blessed they are to have people like TK around. I played back in Brawl and if TK or a select few other people weren't on the mic it wasn't worth listening to.
TK’s my favorite commentator in ultimate, some of my none smash friends actually watch games with me when he’s commentating cus they feel like they can keep up. Keep doing you TK and know that we’re a big part of the community that appreciate you even though we’re not as vocal as the haters
I'm glad you're still around and back to commentating melee. You were my fave melee commentator back when you did mdva melee locals with EE on the regular
People don't know how hard it is, you guys do great work and I appreciate it
I could tell just by your face that you were kind of fed up, and now this video came out. If you decide to hang it up, you’ll still go down as one of my favorites who provided many memorable moments. “I need a sip” is my favorite
I'm sorry you have to go through all that, I personally don't have a Twitter because of all the smash drama, honestly keep doing what you're doing your commentary is wonderful.
I love TK. I remember being there at a few majors and doing some side bets and fun as hell guy
TELL EM TK
Bro I can't imagine not liking TK's commentary. Literally always makes the funniest moments 10x funnier while keeping the match in focus when needed.
Don't let the haters get you down--you, EE, & Coney will always be the golden trio for me! Absolutely love when you are on commentary.
@Gigakoopz
Жыл бұрын
Cringe response.
@summer9759
Жыл бұрын
@@Gigakoopz if uplifting someone is cringe then i don't want to be whatever you are 🥴
@Gigakoopz
Жыл бұрын
@@summer9759 So stay cringe. I absolutely hate hearing the word "hater" because of how cringe it is.
@summer9759
Жыл бұрын
@@Gigakoopz okay weirdo LMFAOO
@Gigakoopz
Жыл бұрын
@@summer9759 Are you coping so hard because I called you cringe? Did it struck a nerve so much that it made you feel more insecure?
Smash commentary would not be the same without you TK. I've been watching since the beginning of smash 4 and its always a treat to get you, coney and EE on the mics. Much love :)
This honestly can be applied to sooo many gaming communities. Twitter is just a cesspool for angry people. Sorry to hear that "fans" are treating you poorly. Keep up the good work!
@FlamingBasketballClub
Жыл бұрын
Elon Musk + Twitter = Excellent Memes.
this video was everything. Loved it from beginning to end!
I like it when commentators enjoy themselves. If it's coney using an smart dumb analogy for mario or hyper analysis, I'm all for it. As long as you're havin fun, I vibe.
Honestly I think its just the vocal minority bitching about the commentary. Like you said it was summit esque in a sense and we don't get these style of tournamsnts often so I always enjoy it.
Honestly I thought they were more strict at summit because wobbles punched a hole in the wall when they were still at the summit house instead of a studio lmaooo
As a boomer myself (33 years old) I enjoy commentators like TK, Coney, etc. because I get to sit here at my desk job and just casually listen to funny conversations/sneak jabs that are fun and chill almost like these dudes are doing 2 in 1. A podcast/commentary. Maybe I’m too old for twitter or something but y’all really have TOO much time on your hands to be coming up with All this mess.
This was flames. I actually LOVED the lud invitational commentary, reminded me of the foundry and classic tourney streams. TK kills it professional or casual style, always entertaining. Chat/reddit/comments was on some BS.
A much and I mean a much needed video
I always like your commentary man you and ee are some of the best and funny
I’ve been watching the community since early Melee & never really say much but i respect tf out of you and everything you’ve brought to the smash community. Everything you’re popping off about in this video is super fucking valid. (as someone who’s watched it passively online for a decade)
Bro I look forward to your commentary when I watch smash videos, I appreciate you so I hope everything get better for you.
Yo TK. Idk if you'll see this, but in the event that you do, I'm mad too. Truthfully Smash has some of the BEST commentary and you are ABSOLUTELY a driving force in that. I don't know what to tell you about other people, but I absolutely come up to you at every event and say hi and say that I love your commentary because I do. And so many people here do as well. Our community is absolutely just full of a bunch of people who ain't got nothing better to do than sit and complain. It's ridiculous, it's childish, and unfortunately it's only gonna keep getting worse. I'm not really sure what I can do as an individual, so I just am here offering my support in whatever you decide to pursue should you decide that it becomes too much to bear. You are a such a real one, and I hope this finds you well. Much love, and keep on keeping on ❤️
Honored to be stuck with you bro. Don't ever stop!
bro I loved you back in the days of Xanadu PM, and that still continues. some of my favrptie commentary moments come from you, ee, and CONEY, scar and toph, vish, webs, hugs, many others honestly. I love the grassroots type, and even in the age when it's less prevalent, smash commentators always have a way of making that style peek through and it's hilarious. I feel your frustration, people don't realize how great we have it with so many awesome personalities that can fill space with shit other than just play by play. commentators especially are largely responsible for continuing the storylines of old and telling the history. some people just want that standard esports style but they don't know what they're missing. keep it up , all the best to you and the rest of all the commentary legends
Tell em TK!!!!
Never heard of you before; I come from the melee scene. First video I've ever pulled up and can't believe the flak you're getting. You seem like a real one.
Preach man, be positive about the game you say you love, or get the fuck out. Love how genuine you are.
bro as someone who hasn't been in the smash community for a long time but watches the tournaments, i didn't know people had a problem with the commentary. i feel sorry yall gotta deal with this
Twitter is literally one of the most toxic places on the internet. That's the main reason why I literally never go on it. You do you TK, you are one of my fave commentators in the scene.
I don't understand when it became cool to shit on everything and everyone. My mom taught me if I don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. The silent majority love and support you ❤️
"I want you to hate me for the rest of your fucking life" bro I love this guy. Liked and subbed for this lol
You should do what some of the cod pros/streamers do sometimes when the trolls start talking trash: Offer them 10 bucks to send ya a selfie on Twitter so you can see a face behind the tweet/comment that they left behind that was hateful. They shut down real quick LOL You’re doing a great job, I’m glad you’re living in peoples heads rent free
Lowkey commentators are at their best when they just don’t give a fuck what you think about them and TK just makes me happy
Men I don’t really know what happen but I can tell you that my wife don’t know shit about smash and she likes to see those fight in which you are commentating cause you hype the shit up and also mad funny, keep doing it the way you do it you are legit.
I will always love the Black Plague on commentary, no matter what. I enjoyed the mix of analytical and laidback commentary ever since I first listened to it. Never change, champ!
I'm honestly super happy you made this video, cause I am also sick of listening to people bitch and moan about the top commentators when they have no grasp on what good commentary actually is, and they also can't see past their biases to realize why their specific taste of commentary is not good for general entertainment or smash. All I'll say is you are still the GOAT, keep up the top tier commentary!
I remember way back in the day when you and Coney had that moment on Xanadu where the transition guy fucked up and had both you and Coney rolling and your reactions and how the next couple minutes went are some of the best things I’ve ever had the pleasure of listening to. Don’t worry about these guys, they’re just young bloods that don’t know what they fuck they want.
Just wanted to say for my 12 years of playing smash TK and his commentary has made smash 1000 times for more fun and interesting!! Shout out to Dirty Kirby hahaha. But much love for you Breezy! I am glad I got to meet you at 2015 CEO.
They don't know what you're talking about. When I got into smash with Sm4sh you, EE, and Coney were my favorite and I think you alongside the other top commentators are great. Keep doing you, let them hate, and make them checks. I'll be looking forward to that commentary and I hope you branch to other games. Might get me into them as well.
Always love listening to you guys commentate. The only time I prefer another person is when another top player commentates (like at summit) and shares their professional understanding of the game or the players playing within their commentary. Loved this vid cuz too many people be betas in the smash community
11:30 Had a similar feeling. It's not the dlc characters that's gonna kill the game or whatever. It's the community and the way they behave to each other.
This is why we need more blunt and brutally honest people like you cause I completely agree
We had a little fun local at my uni and the matches without commentary were straight up boring, so I tried commentating a little and it was pretty fun! I was trying a little more analytical approach, going like “oh, that was a nice punish” or “I don’t think that character is fast enough to make that edgeguard”, but I noticed some people were actually paying attention to the match because I was commentating, and that was nice. Then it was my turn to play and a guy said “hey, can I commentate?” and I said “sure, go ahead!”. He was struggling a bit with analysis, so I just turned to him and said “man, go for the hype” and his eyes shined and his commentary was really really fun! I was playing Loser’s Finals, Grand Finals and True Finals back to back to back, and I got so hyped I actually won the tournament! But all this goes to say, I think commentary is essencial to the game and all commentary is good commentary as long as the commentator is having fun. Personally, I love hearing TK’s commentary on sets, I just like it a lot, but most people should just be glad they even get to have commentators, especially top commentators
I'd love to see more TK melee commentary
As somebody who's done commentary at a local level from a more analytical view, I understand those who want the game to be discussed more. That being said, Blast zone (TK, EE, Coney) are my favorite commentators, especially for events like summit/invitationals, because they know what they're talking about when they are talking about the game, but they actually have personalities too. If you listen to league commentary, its more stiff, and the best moments to me are when the commentators loosen up a bit. Gotta have that mix. One thing i will criticize most commentators on is missing or not talking about the small details that are bigger, to alert the viewers of what and why. In this aspect, Charles does the best easily. So the ludwig invitational had a little bit of everything and i watched every second of it, to EE's chocolate cringing to Coney's dog pissing to tk and charles holding it down, as well as ludwig not knowing shit about ultimate and hazmat nutting over riddles and asimo. Shit was a great experience as a viewer and the fucking twitter goblins need to chill the fuck out. It why i deleted twitter a long ass time ago lol. Idk if you'll read this TK but you're easily the best mix of chill and professional, reigning in EE when you have to and loosening up charles when he gets too technical lmao. These are assumptions based on my viewing experience, maybe I misplaced the individual commentators attributes a little, but hopefully my point was clear: you're good man :)
I def prefer the lighthearted commentary, gives the games more of a community feel imo. Always loved your commentary TK!
Damn this my fave video you're ever made good shit TK
I was laughing my ass off at the commentary it was vibes. keep up the good shit king!
The absolute peak commentary in ultimate is EE, coney and TK. It will never be a bad time with those three on the mic bouncing off each other. I always wish GF has some combination of those three.
I think the amount of time between people wanting something and being able to have it has been shrinking to the point that it's so short now, that people have developed these rediculously high expectations for human created content that are completely unrealistic. You are not entitled to FREE shit being exactly the way you want it exactly when you want it to be that way. Y'all gotta relax and be grateful for what you have, and have the humility to understand that the ability to interact with different human beings and watch games and stuff is a privilege in and of itself. You'll be much happier if you can learn to just sit back, let the stuff you don't like go and enjoy the stuff you do like. We'll all eventually go crazy if we stay hyper focused on addressing, criticizing and scrutinizing every little detail of the things we don't like. It's not healthy for anyone 99 times out of 100.
Sick wallpapers bro!!
TK you're awesome bro, and you do great work. It sucks that people have nothing better to do than complain. I thoroughly enjoyed the fact you were being honest throughout this whole video! I look forward to hearing more commentary from you in Ultimate's future!
TK you're the only Ult commentator i give mad props to. the only Ult commentator i follow on Twitter, as well. fuck the haters. you're doing a great job and the ppl who matter- the 1s signing ur checks- know it
Tkbreezy are one of my favoirite commentary for sure but I also do hope things get better soon 6:22
I think this quote from the Simpsons sums this all up niceley(from the Itchy and Scratchy focus group), "So you want a realistic down to Earth show that's also completely off the walls and swarming with magic robots?"
preach TK 🙌🙌🙌
Absolute King
Uncle TK getting the belt out
i'm mad I missed this live cause I was thinking about that tweet and wondering that dude would come through like "no disrespect I didn't think you'd see this I love your work man" and he actually did, I'm in tears right now
for what it’s worth, i barely watch smash, mostly just look at GRSmash highlights, i’ve always liked your commentary when i see it one thing that bothers me as a casual viewer is when casters talk over the players in the moments when the players talk. other than that, big fan of the profession. TLDR: good job, keep it up, thanks
On one hand, TK is spitting facts. He's a GOAT commentator for a reason, he should do what he does. On the other hand, he shouldn't get so tilted over a couple sub-humans (redditors) that don't like him. He's above this. Smash commentary has been great for a long time.
completely agree. the smash community just loves to hate on everything from commentators to players to characters and everything in between. youre one of my favorite commentators and i hope you can put aside the toxic community and do what you do best
TK is the realest man out there, the energy he brings is always great and I always love hearing him cast. your anger is completely justified TK, I know for a fact that you have more fans than haters, the haters are just really loud and also they're dickheads