This Developer BANNED me on Steam...
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Task Force is releasing this month, and alongside an updated store page comes a new set of concerns. Let's talk about it.
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@jrgamer1243
Жыл бұрын
Haha make a socom mod for thunder tier one. Add 3rd person and leaning than you are good to go lmao
@TabiTheCat
Жыл бұрын
These devs just really want to batter their heads into the dirt at this point holy crap. Never thought anyone would sink this low though. No professionalism at all.
@kloa4219
Жыл бұрын
fans are deeply passionate about the stuff they make so it is no surprise that they last out like that
@degoose2447
Жыл бұрын
Bigfry have you looked at a game called Battlebit Remastered?
@shperax
Жыл бұрын
H-hour has got much better since launch. It's gone from horrible to decent. H-hour has all the popular Socom maps also. I wouldn't of made such a big deal over possibly stealing maps. Its kinda like you saying "No I don't want Socom maps in this Socom like game". Real Socom fans don't give a F how they add in Socom maps as long as they do one way or another. Sony has clearly abandoned Socom fans. Bash on them instead of TI possibly stealing maps. Who the hell cares at this point. I think it's going too far to ban you, but it happened.
Banning players on steam because they had a opinion that the dev not liked is beyond a scumbag move..
@Ozzianman
Жыл бұрын
Ban does literally nothing in this case. He can just use an alt account.
@CorndogCrusader
Жыл бұрын
I know people abuse this word, but it's actual fascistic behaviour.
@liquid_oxygen
Жыл бұрын
@@CorndogCrusader finally, a correct use of the term to describe anything other than a stone toss fan.
@Thorhallx
Жыл бұрын
@@Ozzianman that's not the point lol
@TheHandgunhero
Жыл бұрын
@@Ozzianman Except that requires you to repurchase the game.
That store page is the top example of how NOT to market your game😂
@LyricalViking
Жыл бұрын
For real.. like I can mildly appreciate the honesty about it but ffs.. if you're gonna go through all the legal trouble of scamming people just oversell your game and scam them instead of telling them you're gonna scam them lol
@alkestos
Жыл бұрын
It literally sounds like they want it to fail and die.
@domflorysty5662
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, also there is no marketing for this game. How tf can you not say a single thing for years and then all of the sudden send out an email that the game is coming out this month. There is no hype for this game. Barely any info on the development. Most people probably thought this is another failed project and forgot about it.
@nickkozinski4519
Жыл бұрын
@@domflorysty5662 there was tons of announcements for betas n stuff
@HalfAsleepSam
Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely market a game like this
The dude behind Taskforce has been known by the SOCOM community to be out of his mind insane. He came up with a brilliant mod for original Insurgency and then just took it offline one day without a word to the community. The community involvement part of this video is not even a joke. The dude means literally every word.
@alkestos
Жыл бұрын
I don’t even doubt his honesty here. So I’m not gonna buy the game.
@thejayman1886
Жыл бұрын
I remember something like this... Can't remember what the mod was called.... ? What a scumbag developer.
@kyledakilla8724
Жыл бұрын
I spoke with him in game while playing Insurgency one night years ago and he sounded like a know it all. Like oh how dare you ask me that question!
@123sleepygamer
Жыл бұрын
I do remember seeing something like a third person or SOCOM mod
@whoelsebutmeofcoursei
Жыл бұрын
@@kyledakilla8724 i met a gamedev like that once. Ppl like that are the worst
gonna have to report this game for not following early access steam rules
@godlynewbie
Жыл бұрын
as emperor palpatine once told anakin: insert evil voice here: DO IT!!!!
@TorQueMoD
Жыл бұрын
@@afd19850 I reported them. Fuck these guys if they want to rip content from other games. Doesn't matter if it's the same person who created the maps even. He doesn't own the rights to them. Also the whole using Early Access to fund the game thing is crazy.
So they want to grab our cash and then flip store bought assets and call it a game. You are so right to call these bottom feeders out for what they are.
@kaseybuchanan3269
Жыл бұрын
100% correct
@MsFelinaFox
Жыл бұрын
And the funny thing about those assets. I'm pretty sure a majority of them are either placeholders for aspiring developers. More importantly, I think a lot of them are meant to be used as film props, on account of the fact that visual artists use game engines for film and TV nowadays.
@deralbtraumritter8573
Жыл бұрын
Games like Ready Or Not, Zero Hour have done more with less. GTFO took awhile but is a solid experience. Even EFT and Marauders seem good. Heck, CROWZ and WW3 are better than this...
@TTrigg
Жыл бұрын
@@MsFelinaFox I actually have a few of those myself...
@deralbtraumritter8573
Жыл бұрын
@@MsFelinaFox 100%
That store page making me go from “if it was free I’d give it a go” to “you literally couldn’t pay me to play this” is really impressive..
I donated, they took my money and never gave me a tester key. He said "based on your name you are a troll" What the fuck is that?
@captaindonut9243
Жыл бұрын
Im guessing you're not getting any refund?
@brentsheltz6473
Жыл бұрын
Oh I would contest it with whatever means I have to get my money back
@cococock2418
Жыл бұрын
Chargeback for sure
@trk1b28varianrhesa4
Жыл бұрын
gawd damn wtf
@lenol0315
Жыл бұрын
do a credit card chargeback
They banned me too after they randomly re-appeared after a 2 year hiatus asking for MORE money for development. I told them they were fucking crazy for asking for money for a game that they had abandoned for 2 years with NO word at all to the community about wtf was going on. Guys are a joke, hopefully the game is good though.
@TrevorFosterTheFosterDojo
Жыл бұрын
who cares right. even if it was... would or could you play it after this experience?
Yo bigfry, thx for keeping us updated on things like this man. Appreciate all the work you put into this.
All the feedback that you have given here is 110% correct BigFry. You and I both know personally we have been in the trenches with the development of Task Force. And the BS that we have seen in this game's development you can make a movie on. And to see how they advertise this game and talk down on community is beyond me. The person typing out this info on the steam page honestly sounds bitter and needs a hug. Great video as always buddy have a great evening. 💚
@tubewatcher5012
Жыл бұрын
He can hug these cheeks with his lips, I 100% ain't gonna buy his shitty game and will sleep very well knowing I was part of the reason he'll never reach his "dream" that seems to be more of a current nightmare.
@wildrelicproductions4879
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit it's Able Green!!! He's alive!
@TrevorFosterTheFosterDojo
Жыл бұрын
Abel speaking that good good ;)
Their Steam description was the “If we joke about how unfinished and bad it is, it’ll endear us to the public” attempt. Whenever I see somebody attempting that, I just groan and ignore the project.
@ram89572
Жыл бұрын
I'd say it was worse than that. They were doing that but also adding in the arrogance that they think they deserve getting your money regardless of what the final product looks like because ultimately they only think of you as their personal money printer and if you aren't printing that money for them then fuck you.
@A_Stereotypical_Heretic
Жыл бұрын
I don't think this was a joke.
I would recommend reporting the steam store page for fraud.
@TrialMacameau
Жыл бұрын
More like Legal Violation is more appropriate because they are violating the EA ToS.
Just a reminder that a steam game ban is still a big issue. After a game ban you can no longer upvote reviews for games, or vote on community content (like skins for CSGO)
Their responses to the questions [on their store page] read like a MadTV parody skit. If this wasn't real, I'd think it's hilarious. This is crazy how unhinged & unprofessional they are (and upfront about it lol)
Apparently they have zero self-awareness whatsoever, because they're already blaming other people for a failure yet to occur. The irony is, that store page, those things they've put out there for people to see, and apparently banning people critical of shady tactics - THAT is what is going to cause them to fail, because they are not going to sell a product to people when they're treating their would-be customers like crap, and blaming them for things they haven't even done. If they spent as much time developing their game, and actually crowdfunding it, as they do complaining about public criticism, they'd have more to show than locked content and a rant-laden store page.
as hard as it can be to hold back on announcing a game when you are developing it always hold back on teasing or announcing a damn thing about it until you know your developing it for the long run & you know its gonna come out at some point dont just announce a pipe dream that you are working on or you may end up in a mess like this
Looks like a pretty clear abuse of Steam's game ban policy.
Don’t be too upset about your age, Fry. Plenty of us are now feeling the same thing. With gaming only becoming truly “mainstream” around ~20 years ago (I personally view GTA3 as the game that moved it beyond that marker) and the games of that early 2000s era targeting those who were teens at the time, those of us who are now in our mid-30s comprise that huge demographic of gamers that were there at the forefront of modern gaming. (And I can’t believe PS2/OG Xbox are considered “retro” now, that’s… disgusting) 😆
@daddyjoe600
Жыл бұрын
Sneed.
@Swordman1111
Жыл бұрын
mate, even Xbox 360 and PS3 are considered retro now
@ram89572
Жыл бұрын
Well consider this - A car from 1997 can get a license plate that says antique vehicle on it. All it needs to be to qualify for that type of vanity plate (at least in my state) is to be 25 years old. Those consoles ain't that far off from it themselves with the PS2 coming in at 22 years old.
@dopesickdog
Жыл бұрын
i'm in my early 20s so can't relate, but my PS2 was a huge part of my life for a long, long time... mind-boggling that it's over 20 FREAKING YEARS OLD
How is this even allowed on steam in the first place?? How the actual hell did this not get flagged immediately. Good God this is embarrassing
we are getting old but at least we know what the best years of gaming was like
@PhantomGardener
Жыл бұрын
People need to stop calling themselves old, when they are not even close to being old. It is so frustrating. How "old" is he? Like 30? That is nothing
@CountlessPWNZ
Жыл бұрын
@@PhantomGardener what are you? 31? no need to worry about being old, dude.
I feel like this should be a huge problem with Valve giving these scummy devs this much power
Cant wait to play and cover your upcoming games, especially a possible Socom like Game in the Future! Keep the Work💪
SOCOM was my first ever shooter game when I was young (I was born 1992). I remember connecting my PS2 to the internet for the first time and playing PVP for the first time
Socom was one of them games where I was barley old enough to know what I was doing. I think it was socom 1 where you had to meet some guy in some ruins then the next level you were on a ship in the ocean. Didn’t even know what I was doing but it really had an influence into what genre I would end up sticking with the rest of my life. Im only 20 so you can probably imagine my young 4 year old dumbass with no memory card only playing the first 3 levels over and over again daily🤣 I only Barely remember it. This video opened up a whole can of nostalgia and I rly appreciate it bro!
@TheNotoriousNemo
Жыл бұрын
I was probably 10yrs old on socom2, I couldn't figure out how to get past the second level, I legitimately thought the 2nd level was the final level I couldn't beat it lol.
@_7-7-7_
Жыл бұрын
@@TheNotoriousNemo that must of been it bro the ship mission? I could never get past it my self I just used to pretend that the ship was my base and used to just chill🤣🤣🤣👌🏽
I'm a big fan of these longer videos bigfry! I love how well they sold the game at 5:45 and 7:15
that store page sounds like it was written by a child
@BlindxSide
Жыл бұрын
Oh, it was. An egotistical child.
0:20 Didnt realize any of that except the last bit
The later portion of the store page reminds me of those satirically rude restaurants. 😄 🤣
Hey bigfry✌️ just ordered one of your new super awesome PTFO desk mats for my first pc gaming setup! I love everything ya do for the gaming community and just wanted to thank you and show my support to you for wat ya do!! 💥🤘💥
In 2005 I started a clan in SOCOM called >RTK< ..... this will forever be in my heart and remain one of my fondest childhood gaming memories
this game is how I found your channel years ago
Thats lit my anniversary is the same anniversary of one of my favorite games growing up
classic. the task force hole dug even deeper by the developers.
If you are a socom multiplayer OG, then you will know these phrases, "rush the donut room", "sniping the buttcrack" lol
@AH-ex6rb
Жыл бұрын
@ChuckNasty I remember a dude back in Socom 2 whose tag was "M67 + PMN Mines" dude fuckin OWNED on Foxhunt and Desert Glory
OMG THANKS SO SO MUCH THIS HELPED!!!
Apparently they never heard the phrase "Some thoughts should stay thoughts."
@ChaosBahamut
Жыл бұрын
"The next time you have a thought, let it go." XD
@Real_Mick3y6
Жыл бұрын
@@ChaosBahamut Or that
All this Socom talk got me a bit teary man...
Why not go on Steam and report their early access game that goes against the term of services of it regarding the description they put? @BigFryTV even implied that they are not allow to use early access for that purpose.
Holy shit! I haven't laughed this hard all day! Thanks for speaking out about dodgy devs who are ruining the indie game dev industry. I'm starting out as a game dev myself and guys like these need to be called out! Praise for the ones doing it right, and shame for the rest.
I remember getting so hyped to get desert Storm and waiting for the second to release!! Socom is absolutely gold
I played with Redline years ago, sounded like a know it all. They also disabled my game key, thanks Tracer Interactive!
11:09 yea bluedrake is already doing that with harsh doorstop lol
You tell em' Big! Great video!
Store page Ignored Thanks Bigfry
When you turned around and asked “where have you been”😂😂
u have the headset for socom ah man that was epic.
You are seriously the voice of the people. Your no filter, and total honesty in todays runny shit storm of game development is whats needed. Thank you for always taking charge and trying to put a stop to this garbage.
Man i loved SOCOM back in the day, these devs are trying to ruin the good name of SOCOM.
Still remember screwing in the network adaptor on my PS2 with a quarter and going online on Socom for the first time.
yo that store page is WILD lol
I had literal thousands of hours played in socom series on PS2. At one point even ranked top 100. It’s all I played. Fun times. I’ve nowhere near pinnacled that high on any other game.
damn new record, I was banned by them in less then 30 seconds after posting your video as a response to someone who did not get their access key way back from 2020 lol
yo Bigfry just thought to let you know that their is a really cool new game being developed by one guy based on war of the worlds hes got a YT channel and consistently post's videos for new things and updates hes added the game honestly looks really amazing and i think it deserves a lot more attention!
One of my early online gaming memories was playing socom 2 and doing ninja jumping to get to funny places and my friend teaching me how to make a lag switch and showing me how it works, I had never seen that side of gaming before and it was wild to me
Holy f*** that blows my mind...
"It might stay in Early Access hell forever", or in other words, "we won't care after we've got your money."
cant wait to get the game
Calling Task Force a steaming pile of canine feces would be a grave insult to steaming piles of canine feces. Thanks for keeping us updated on this crap and the crap that crap developers pull.
That steam description for the Early Access section might be one of the worst I have ever heard lmao.
bro really went from BigFryTV to TheGameTheory
What the hell was that rocket launch at 0:17 LOL. Anyone else see that?
SOCOM 3 was my childhood game man, i'd come home from school and play that for hours, but never beat the game because i was a kid and had no idea what I was doing
saw the comments about the store page and thought it can't be thaaat bad, but holy hell the dev really hurt themselves in confusion when answering the early access questions.
I really hope to see a good SOCOM game at some point.
@VAL3NTIN3
Жыл бұрын
As long as kids are eating up the shit warzone is giving out. It won't happen. And especially now since Extraction games are becoming a big thing
@ARMYguy01
Жыл бұрын
@@VAL3NTIN3 unfortunately I agree, but if it was made, most of the player base would be us, and not so much the younger generation IMO. But either way I preferred SOCOM as the campaign anyway. I liked telling my teammates where to go and how to approach, and have them listen. That was great.
Hey just wanted to say that your content is awesome pls do not ever change your theme song
Still have my SOCOM in the box with the headset. Now I feel fuckin old Thanks BigFry 🤣
Just got a dead island 2 advert before this video. 😀 I thought that game had been all but abandoned, but the ad says it’s out on February 3rd 2023. Can’t wait and it was actually an ad I watched without pressing skip 😂😂
This store page is so damn bad is almost seems like a weird troll, like wtf is this? Keep up the weird, yet oddly entertaining content BigFry..Lowkey one of the best channel on YT these days.
The audacity!
I saw this, went on steam to their forums, said the game looks like an asset flip and I was permanently banned within an hour, lol
i only played Socom 3 navy seal and man i loved the story wish to have those game on PC
I didn't even know it was possible to ban someone from a single specific game on steam. Never seen it happen before
1. You can have workshop work with dedicated servers before release, space engineers is one example that did before release. 2. Its a simple shooter so it's not a hard thing to make. If it is a passion project than you can absolutely do it without much money at all. Unity actually has templates for all the basic crap although i can't speak for unreal because all my experience is with unity.
Bigfryyy.. The Dev Punisher... xDDDDD Keep it going Bigfry! Woop Woop
Hey bigfry loved the vid, just thought i should mention your mustache looks a little uneven, left side looks like it is bigger than the right side
I love how they updated the early access description to look better and the highest player count the game has had so far is 200 according to steam charts.
You could probably just report them to steam and get the game removed before it's technically released
"Great selling point! What the fuck?" absolutely KILLED me lmfao, thanks for that.
Bigfry, I've been following you for quite some time. Every once in awhile, it feels like a project comes along where I think to myself; "THIS has to be the THE project that embodies everything wrong with indie Early Access development". And I gotta say: these developers have set the bar as high (er, well low) as humanly possible not just for Early Access but just common sense PR. It's like this blog post was written by an 18 year old doomer who took an online course on PR and then just threw out the book after a heated night in the community Discord. "We have no desire to involve anyone in anything. Just leave the hell alone so the job of making video games is actually fun" is just a terrible mindset. The second you go public; your game and your studios practices are open to criticism. This goes doubly so when you start charging people money especially when you're arbitrarily banning people for no reason. Yes, you can't please all the people all the time but a multiplayer game needs a community and a game studio needs support to maintain development & pay its developers (and contractors who you spoke about hiring). It feels like this studio was being so fatalistic about the state of independent games development, they didn't take the time to learn from the mistakes of other fallen studios let alone get a clue from their community. I've never played SOCOM but its fans can get a spiritual successor with or without Task Force. Its up to the developers if they want to be apart of the community when that day comes as an ally or as a scornful memory of those who they wronged with their practices as a studio.
That Community Part is just wtf? This has some Sergey Titov vibes xD
Jeeeessuuusss chriiiist. This isn’t honestly or even brutal honesty, it’s literally just pure fucking arrogance.
Ever heard of “Outbreak Survival” new game coming this year…
The store page looks like it was written by Nick from Dead Matter. lol
H-Hour devs randomly gave me a key and it was... eh...
Maybe these guys should get real jobs and use part of their income to fund development themselves instead of screeching at would-be customers on Steam about how those potential customers "owe it to them to fund their dream".
@OlEgSaS32
Жыл бұрын
seriously, the utter f cking gall of these people "if you dont buy our half assed game that we *chose* to put out in a half assed state and try to promise to make it better BUT ONLY IF PEOPLE BUY IT, cuz we broke as f ck, its YOUR fault the game is half assed" like just...hand over your game dev cards, they dont deserve them...actually no, even thats too generous for them, they're not allowed to be anywhere with a 10 mile radius of a game dev card or anyone in possession of one
This developer appears to have ZERO confidence in their own game ☠
Great video as always! The community needs people like you calling out this kind of BS. Keep up the good work.
Get up the good work, Fry! 👍
never played socom. i was a battlefield modern combat multiplayer teen on ps2... the good old days ;)
Bigfry is a real one!
I see a potential law suit happening
It's litterally like what a lot of devs should put in project description. 😂
2000 year's of games
Thank you Bigfry for looking out for people like me who would want to help game developers to improve there product, These self righteous bastards want to literally get money for nothing. Your brutal honesty is refreshing , Keep up the great work.
so many videos, how did we get so lucky?!
It's like they don't want anyone to actually play/buy their game, because they certainly market it as a joke
It feels like a Valve employee interviewed the creator on discord and the dude had no idea he was taking notes and making that their store page description. Like seriously you don't need to be a market expert to see how horrible that game description is. It's quite literally something you'd see on a free-mod page.
it's like going to the restaurant and the people there telling you they need enough people to order first before they can go hire the chef and buy the ingredients, if there isn't enough people who ordered well you don't get to eat, and if you they can't feed you it's your fault.
I remember sinking fk knows how many hrs into Socom 2 on the PS2 and on Confrontation.