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And of course this exploit works best against the frontloaded Deity AI...
@SmallPotato2313
Жыл бұрын
More gold=more opportunity to steal from the AI
Spiffin brit has entered chat
@user-ft5vi3bp9c
3 ай бұрын
468 likes and no comment? Let me fix that.
Portugal: See what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!
There used to be an exploit where you could spend more gold per turn than it could calculate and then loop back around and give you a functionally infinite amount to spend each turn but then Mansa Musa came out and people started to do the opposite so it got patched Also unintentionally fixed the problem where if a Mongolian cavalry unit had more than 100% chance to steal a defending cavalry unit it would have been destroyed in its attack instead of capturing the defending unit (think a tank facing a chariot and dying instantly because the chance to capture was based on unit strength)
@Made4Fan
Жыл бұрын
That's called pump up trigger down in economy😂
My favorite is the unearthed relic exploit. If the civ in question has room, on the same turn you uncover a buried artifact turn around and sell it before you end the turn. If a civ has room for it, they’ll purchase it at any cost. You can drain the accounts of every civ on the map trading, and they’ll surrender their entire treasury lol
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
you learn something new everyday
@ferea_896
11 ай бұрын
@@boesthius the one on the short was just patched. The relic one as well
@lb8384
6 ай бұрын
@@ferea_896 Any new ones?
this mechanic was already 20 years ago in a game called Fable: The lost chapters; you could sell 40 diamonds or any other item at full price to a merchant who has not too much of it, and then buy it from him at lower price because he has so much
Leave it to Detective Boes to find all the exploits in Civ 6 🕵️♂️
@MadMagneto
Жыл бұрын
This has been used by PotatoMcWhiskey for like, 4 years
This short and the one about ToA are really good. If you made more like these you would get a lot more traffic on your shorts and probably gain some extra subs from randomly recommended shorts
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
That's actually the plan, I'm glad you liked it! There's another coming out tomorrow~
Nice, time to buy out the AI right before warring them
„We just gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse“
@SHADOW.RIZZARD
10 ай бұрын
💀
Can confirm still works, even with quick deals.
@internalfyre6984
2 ай бұрын
How’d you get it to work it’s not for me. Wrong dlc?
@Bernardo0802
Ай бұрын
How did u make to work? When I try to Buy the resources they won't sell it
Also anptjer one is to buy their diplomatic favor b4 they got the civic that allows them to actually use it. Then sell it back to them for crazy high gold
I do something similar but a bit more balanced i trade gold for gold per turn and usually the ai worth for 1 gold for 30 turns is equivalent to about 21 gold meaning every gold a ai is making is worth around 9 so assuming a ai is making 20 gold per turn you can get around after the 30 turns it’s much less op than this but much faster so I would recommend it for multiplayer games
I think this was somewhat turned down cuz the ai is now not willing to trade strategics anymore if it would mean they will have less than certain amount of it (around 20) at least thats what i noticed when trying this or similar thing with diplo favor
Thanks, now I will use this forever and ever. Thank you
Me: I don’t like to exploit Also me: But I’ve still never won a deity game…
@flomaster76
Жыл бұрын
Ive won my deity game with religion victory in 1x1. Ive just spammed settlers and let my enemy to capture my cities untill occupied cities became majority)
@zmman9243
8 ай бұрын
@@flomaster76what! that’s genius and evil! i like it!
and from here, any idea of an Economic Victory Condition was slain, gutted, left to dry and turned into jerky.
They finally patched it? I just tried selling 50 iron to poundmaker who had none and now he won't sell it back. Tried with Pericles and Gilgamesh they only give me half the value
after giving horses for gold, it says it is an offer blocking deal... and I can not buy it back
You didn't mention that you were giving him gold in addition to the gold per turn, can you instead give him more gold per turn and no gold? I know that you can typically give ~16 gold for 1 gold per turn, so I don't know if this actually gives better rates
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
sometimes, however in general it's more useful to get the GPT because over the 30 turns you'll be gaining like 1.5x - 2x more gold overall
Does this work for Xbox? Every time I try this they won’t sell me it back
Damn. Maybe I can defeat deity with this haha
@are3287
Жыл бұрын
well if you cant do it regularly maybe you should learn the basic mechanics first then deity isnt even hard
@fishmasterdisaster3713
Жыл бұрын
@@are3287 wow you are so intelligent and cool Are 😂
@nathanweber6859
Жыл бұрын
If diety isnt hard...what is?
@alexn4753
Жыл бұрын
@@nathanweber6859 the deity with the most civilizations on the map. literally first 2 wars at least
@pelvismen5510
Жыл бұрын
@@nathanweber6859civ IV deity
i usually just loan the ai gold . then i just collect the interest per turn
@zachforbes3901
6 ай бұрын
Smart man, what kind of interest do they give?
@SilisAlin
3 ай бұрын
@@zachforbes3901 get the Quick Deals mod. You can easily borrow and lend money in the "Exchange tab". Usually the interest rate is about 10% but the loans income stacks so fast, especially if there are a lot of civs in the game. Be sure not to lend money to your enemies though because you’ll lose the GPT immediately after declaring a war
Yes but most people dont know use the real gold trick... You can borrow money right. You can also lend money. If you lend the enemy money you snowball fast.. like at some point per round you getting over several K Gold. Cong. You can now buy unit like you want.
@captain_ratatouille3633
3 ай бұрын
Explain a little more please? How is this work? You borrow money and lend it back?
@mathchessdnd
7 сағат бұрын
@@captain_ratatouille3633 AI values flat gold more than gold-per-turn. So they're willing to trade something like 20 gold now for 1 gold per turn for 30 turns. So you "lend" them 20 gold, which they "pay back with interest" as 1 gold per turn for 30 turns. Repeat as much as you can for massive gains.
Ok so the trade sweet spot on each resource is... Aluminum = 22 Coal = 22 Horses = 40 Iron = 40 Niter = 40 Oil = 22 Uranium = ??? ...do you or does anyone know what the number is for Uranium? It seems inconsistant every time I have tried it thus far.
@justiceabs2407
Жыл бұрын
does it still work?
Works in nearly every game where the NPCs or AI factions increase the value of an item by sparsity
Will try out Mali and use this to break the Game further
Very broken indeed
Just about to go bankrupt as Hammurabi in my previous run I guess this will save me 🤪
Tried this in my current Emperor-level game and it didn't really work. Wonder if it's just a Deity think because they actually have the money to do it? It might also have been a tad too early in Ancient Era for it to really work.
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it might be just a Deity thing, I'm not sure
@frankartanis1290
Жыл бұрын
I haven't tested it, but it should work on all difficulties. Some of the reasons I can think of that can cause it to fail are: 1 you don't have enough room to store all the resources, so you can't buy all the resources back from the AI. 2 the AI really dislikes you and asks for a high price. This is fine, just keep repeating the trade, and the AI will gradually grow fond of you, and the trades tip in your favor. Very rarely, one or two AI hate you so much that the prices remain high no matter what, just give up in that case. 3 AI hasn't discovered that resource yet, and doesn't recognize its value. 4 AI only buys a maximum of 40 horses, 40 irons, 40 nitre, 22 coal, 22 oil, 22 aluminum, if I remember correctly. So don't sell more than that to the AI.
@sportzak5886
Жыл бұрын
@Frank Artanis thank you! My guess it was that they hadn't revealed the tech yet? I'll have to try it again later.
In this scenario you are only making about 1 gold per turn per completed trade. It's a neat little trick to help you over the line, but oft not worth the time taken to get crazy numbers. Thanks Boes
I'll try it on my brother.
My favourite part about Civ6 is that if you put the resolution bigger than your monitor and then try to play the game youll never be able yo change it again even if you reinstall rhe game conpletely 😊
@KaramRahat
Ай бұрын
Change launch parameters to open in windowed mode. That fixes it
I use something similar but you got to have an alliance to insure it 😂 I just give straight up like 10,000 gold coins but ask for like 450 golds per turn making my profits 3500 by the end of the deal
Pretty realistic tbh, They call that a global trade deficit 💀
whenever i go to do this the game only lets me trade a resource for 30 turns rather than just a 1 time offer. Anyone know a work around for this? (Im new to the game and don't really know what im doing wrong lol)
Because of the lump sum on top of the 10 gold per turn you aren’t really profiting all that much, and you don’t even ‘break even’ until around 2/3 of the 30 day trade period, don’t get me wrong you still profit but if you want gold soon this isn’t it
doesnt seem to work for me, do I have to target a specific AI or do I need to wait until he or i have like 40 stockpile size or something
I've never gotten this to work, is there a specific speed, of difficulty to use this with?
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
Standard and deity~
@frankartanis1290
Жыл бұрын
I haven't tested it, but it should work on all difficulties. Some of the reasons I can think of that can cause it to fail are: 1 you don't have enough room to store all the resources, so you can't buy all the resources back from the AI. 2 the AI really dislikes you and asks for a high price. This is fine, just keep repeating the trade, and the AI will gradually grow fond of you, and the trades tip in your favor. Very rarely, one or two AI hate you so much that the prices remain high no matter what, just give up in that case. 3 AI hasn't discovered that resource yet, and doesn't recognize its value. 4 AI only buys a maximum of 40 horses, 40 irons, 40 nitre, 22 coal, 22 oil, 22 aluminum, if I remember correctly. So don't sell more than that to the AI.
@bigfudge2031
Жыл бұрын
I play on quick speed usually and the AI won't accept delegations when you first meet them, perhaps game speed also affects this.
With that example, you get about 40 gold profit since you're paying 80 gold up front.
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
It's about the gold per turn, not about the flat gold really
@stigma4122
Жыл бұрын
@@boesthius i know, I'm just stating the profit you made with the deal.
@sunnyday8300
10 ай бұрын
@@boesthius In the video, the AI seems to be asking you for a one-time payment of around 80 gold per cycle, but isn't offering you any one-time payment per cycle. Presumably, you'll run out of gold in your reserves at some point; your video cuts before that ever happens and your reserves seem to suddenly fill back up to 360. How do you get around that?
Funny thing is that these kind of exploits irl haven't been patched either. So it's realistic I guess.
how do you get 40 iron ? i always just see 2 of everything like 2 diamonds 2 elephants, 2 niter
@boesthius
Ай бұрын
they changed how strategics in the DLC, so instead of just having 1-2 it's a cache now
@myyoutubepage199
Ай бұрын
@@boesthius do you know DLC this is ? im new to the game and lost 2 times already lol
@boesthius
Ай бұрын
@@myyoutubepage199 Gathering Storm!!! it's all on sale right now on steam for like 95% off haha
@myyoutubepage199
Ай бұрын
@@boesthius i appreciate the help !!! 😀on both playthroughs that i did i never had the chance to bring out the a bomb .
Just tested this with nitre in a diety ambiorix renaissance era save. Did not work with friends or allies.
Then he realises what you've been doing and sends his ships to pillage your villages, burn your cities to the ground and takes all your gold, sheep and women.
I accidentally found this on my own recently n was also against harald lol
I get the same amount of money just by my spies. I once ran a game, where I got almost 700 gold per turn just by my spies and a few fair trades.
The AI always refuse to sell their strategic resources to me when I don't have access to them and only sells them once they become irrelevant. Is that just because they haven't reached the storage capacity?
I'm new to Civ, how do you get that much iron, is it a dlc? In my games 2 is enough, feels like I am playing a different game.
@coldraven5738
Жыл бұрын
It is the gathering storm dlc
@samuelforesta
Жыл бұрын
Strategic resources work differently in gathering storm than they do in the base game.
How tf do you get 40 iron? I find it hard to get even 1
@RexRagerunner
Жыл бұрын
Harold moment right here
@jameslawn6159
11 ай бұрын
Pc civ has different stuff console doesn't get governors either
@Strogghog
10 ай бұрын
Iron builds up in your stockpile from the iron mines u have, one mine might give 3 iron per turn until the stockpile is full
It only exists because the spiffing Brit has not used it yet
Does this still work mid to late game?
You telling me ai has +300 gold per turn?!
Ferb i know what we are doing today
Can anyone help it's not working, im playing it on deity
I don't think it works on xbox. I tried it but it's just not working.
Does it have tk be 40 iron?
Stonks. Although I don't like cheesy exploits on games.
Noted
Mr. Krabs, I have an idea!
Damn my boy harald getting done dirty over and over
But how do you get so much of that strategic resource to even do this
Is this patched?
Dose it work on console
10x30+83=383 14x30=420 You profit is 43 total.
Is this patched? Because every time I do it, they sell exactly the same quantity back plus when I buy it I have to give more gold
@Immortal_Fish
10 ай бұрын
I have the exact same issue
Here’s how to beat cig 6….get 40 iron how do I do such a thing? I’m lucky to get one 😢 guys…I think it’s a skill issue 😭
This would be fine on Settler, but…
How do you even get that much iron???
this doesnt work anymore i think
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
It does AFAIK, I can test it however
@justiceabs2407
Жыл бұрын
@@boesthius dam then I must be doing something wrong
i actually found this accidentally
I mean, you could do it with any resource
Math left the chat
Gonna abuse this
Nice
Not the 16 gold = 1 gold for 30 turns exploit?
This work online?
What do you mean this is an exploit? This is literally the EU economy policy towards the Southern European Countries for more than 30 years now.
Talk about the free diplo favor lmao
sounds like university but your the universityt
I just tried this. I gave Gilgabro 20 coal for 17 GPT. Then I tried to get the 20 coal back, but he wants 26 GPT for it. Thats a net loss
How do u get 40 iron?!?!
@boesthius
3 ай бұрын
its from the expansions~
I believe in civ v supremacy
I use quick trades mod, choose borrow gold for X gold per turn. Buy banks to get more gold per turn repeat.
Does this work without dlc?
@nintendogamer1926
Жыл бұрын
I didn't try it, but it should work without DLC, as there is no DLC mechanic
@commandershortsight
Жыл бұрын
@@nintendogamer1926 Resource stockpiles is a DLC feature, so no. Base game, you either do or don’t have a resource.
How is this not patched! Wow
Doesn't work with oil, I tried 😢
@SlugBoii
Жыл бұрын
help pls i can’t get it to work at all
Best to use this exploit with Eleanor
I never used this exploit, but I have heard about it. I thought they patched it years ago! Guess not!
This will be fun lol
How does one get so much iron anyway
@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg
Жыл бұрын
Build wide. Mine every iron resource you can get.
@caller5544
Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg my mistake was playing standard rules, only recently started Gathering Storm but thanks anyway lol
Im fairly new but is it a bug that u can strip the ai of all ressources gold and relics when u conquered their capital and propose peace?
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily a bug but more like they just want the war to end so they'll give you everything. There IS a bug when it comes to gifting cities however, but I think they may have patched it out?
@bigfudge2031
Жыл бұрын
No, the AI is just desperate for peace and likely doesn't have many resources left by the time you take their capital. Although, sometimes the AI will refuse to make peace even when they have 1 tiny city left with no troops or gold.
@stockdoc9384
Жыл бұрын
Just did this to China today with Russia. They gave me everything , it was insane I got like 7 cities every single resource and gold, they had a single city left
Quick trade mod and you be rich
How the hell?
just play Portugal and make 10k per round
Does this still work in april?
@boesthius
Жыл бұрын
yupyup
I'm broke💀
I lost my stuff
oh hell yeah, finally payback against the cheating AI since they have so.many bonuses
How the fu*k do i get 40 of Iron?