This Charming Man by The Smiths - Guitar Lesson

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  • @gcf7175
    @gcf71759 жыл бұрын

    If I could play like that I'd be so pumped that I could never just sit there talking about it. I get a couple chords out and I'm all jumping off the couch and doing spin kicks. I kicked over my step dad's ashtray and now they want me to sell my guitar on craigslist.

  • @rocketxiv4980

    @rocketxiv4980

    8 жыл бұрын

    Keep rocking it out! 👍

  • @tdhbb

    @tdhbb

    7 жыл бұрын

    Keep kicking ass trays kid :3

  • @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN

    @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN

    7 жыл бұрын

    Just learned this song, been playing guitar for 2 years. Self taught by playing songs I like, no theory required. (eventhough i do have a background in piano)

  • @matthewnijland3433

    @matthewnijland3433

    7 жыл бұрын

    my thoughts have been put into words finally about this song

  • @phillipyoung8773

    @phillipyoung8773

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rock and roll man 😀

  • @turntablesrockmyworld9315
    @turntablesrockmyworld9315 Жыл бұрын

    It still boggles my mind that while everyone else was playing blues-boogie rock and hard rock/early metal, 17-year old Johnny Marr came up with this guitar part. Such a creative guitarist.

  • @BabyBoomerChannel
    @BabyBoomerChannel2 жыл бұрын

    Johnny Marr has a unique ability to develop incredibly catchy riffs on 3 strings.

  • @XLBiker13
    @XLBiker139 жыл бұрын

    Far and away THE BEST lesson for This Charming Man. The only lesson that plays it exactly like Johnny does. Love all the "geeky" detail involved in perfecting this. Its broken down perfectly. Thank you so much.

  • @gonzalofernandez400

    @gonzalofernandez400

    Жыл бұрын

    the intro isn't really exactly like Johnny Marr plays it but aight

  • @santorojo2
    @santorojo24 жыл бұрын

    Back in the early ‘80s, I played in my first band: we were a cover band, doing songs by then- new bands, like The Police and U2, mixed with songs by older bands, like the Beatles. But we also did what was then called “college music” - music that didn’t get airplay on mainstream commercial radio, and which you could only hear on your local 5000w college radio station; songs by bands like X, Replacements, Pretenders, Translator, Smiths, Cure, Banshees, Magazine - I can’t remember all of them, but we had a huge repertoire, and gained a large following, being the only band doing that type of music in our city in central California. One of the songs we did was This Charming Man - which I absolutely loved! We played the song in F#, and I managed to make it sound “almost” like the original, but it never sounded quite right - until I slipped a capo on at the 2nd fret, and had an “aha!” moment, finding all of those open strings! It was always one of my favorite songs to play, and watching this video brought back a lot of great memories. Except for maybe 1 or 2 different voicings, I played it exactly like this. Thanks for your wonderful tutorials - I wish you and youtube were around back in 1983 - my styluses would’ve lasted longer, and my records wouldn’t have gotten so scratched!

  • @User-vy9yx

    @User-vy9yx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats so fucking cool dude that sounds like an amazing experience cheers

  • @goldenultra

    @goldenultra

    2 жыл бұрын

    You probably got some good memories of them times? That Chorus eighties sound should be on every guitarist s repotoir.

  • @aquamarine99911

    @aquamarine99911

    Жыл бұрын

    On live vids, I've seen Johnny play it both ways, with and without the second fret capo. Most recently, he played it capo'd with The Killers.

  • @danuco_foil

    @danuco_foil

    11 ай бұрын

    When he plays without capo, he has different tunning.

  • @sroodjim5630
    @sroodjim56308 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a great teacher, so easy to follow his clear instructions and finally I can actually play this great tune!

  • @jacobbharrat9915

    @jacobbharrat9915

    8 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • 7 жыл бұрын

    sroodjim he’s like... the best teacher ever

  • @surfzion
    @surfzion Жыл бұрын

    Man you need loads of creativity and personality to compose something so pleasing to the ears and so different from most guitarists. Johnny Marr is a freaking genious.

  • @paddymacmusic4960
    @paddymacmusic49604 жыл бұрын

    I have been using this video trying to learn one of the greatest guitar pieces of all time I started watching this video when I was 8 years of age I am now 13 and just learned to play it last week thank you so much for this trutorial x

  • @IrishBog

    @IrishBog

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good man Paddy! I’ve been playing for 30 years and still haven’t gotten it right

  • @ethanc1719

    @ethanc1719

    4 жыл бұрын

    IrishBog u have some of the best smiths covers on KZread?!??

  • @tjsgreenteamints

    @tjsgreenteamints

    2 жыл бұрын

    reminding you of this comment just to cause you pain

  • @luzdeluna135

    @luzdeluna135

    Жыл бұрын

    didn't realized this video was that old till i read ur comment lmaoo it has such a great quality!

  • @ZEECHEESEMON

    @ZEECHEESEMON

    11 ай бұрын

    You’re my age??? You’re like 17/18?? Man, I wish I started playing sooner.

  • @LucienHughes
    @LucienHughes10 жыл бұрын

    An excellent tutorial at a great pace, and with great audio in 1080p! Couldn't ask for more :)

  • @acpg

    @acpg

    10 жыл бұрын

    Thank-you, glad you liked it!

  • @andrewpasco1366
    @andrewpasco136610 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know Stephen Merchant was such a badass on guitar!!

  • @ineffablemars

    @ineffablemars

    7 жыл бұрын

    he's cuter than steve..

  • @kolorfool

    @kolorfool

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol that wnas my first thought seeing him

  • @chrisjames1924

    @chrisjames1924

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rose Byrne's ex

  • @tomwalsh6655

    @tomwalsh6655

    3 жыл бұрын

    he needs to form a band with a ricky and Karl lookalike. Pilkies making music 2

  • @manmoth1184

    @manmoth1184

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tomwalsh6655 steve could go in the distance on an album cover

  • @kevinw8688
    @kevinw86885 жыл бұрын

    One of the finest guitar compositions in rock history in my view. Johnny Marr found something special with this one.

  • @tahsinsabah833
    @tahsinsabah8337 жыл бұрын

    This guy gave me the best guitar lesson I've ever had

  • @4G8THS
    @4G8THS8 жыл бұрын

    Please do heaven knows I'm miserable now.. Having trouble with other tutorials and would love to learn it from you... Thanks

  • @ophiolatreia93

    @ophiolatreia93

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's s johnny marr vid explaining it... look it up

  • @seanpaul3954
    @seanpaul39545 жыл бұрын

    Never been able to get this to sound right until now... you've obviously put loads of research into into learning this song...thank you very much.. brilliant!

  • @grantrmiller
    @grantrmiller10 жыл бұрын

    One of the best tutorials I've seen for any song, not just "This Charming Man." I had the bones of this down in 10 minutes after watching this. And you're totally right about the capo vs. tuning up. Much better chiming by tuning up rather than using a capo.

  • @acpg

    @acpg

    10 жыл бұрын

    Grant Miller Thanks very much Grant. Yes, was playing it for years with a capo and it never quite sounded right.

  • @dermot51

    @dermot51

    6 жыл бұрын

    Watch your top E, I snapped mine

  • @acpg
    @acpg10 жыл бұрын

    There's a free and accurate tab on my site and some extra background info on the song - click on the link above.

  • @franciscodesaneugenio4006

    @franciscodesaneugenio4006

    7 жыл бұрын

    anyonecan playguitar.co.uk

  • @lilyinc
    @lilyinc8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for taking the time out to record this Adrian

  • @lauriestevenson4183
    @lauriestevenson41839 жыл бұрын

    I dont normally comment on these things but that was REALLY good. What was really annoying was the fact that it was so simple in parts. First class indeed, really impressed. I'll check the rest of your videos!

  • @ianmccombs8149
    @ianmccombs81498 жыл бұрын

    I have been interested in this song for quite some time now and have recently got into The Smiths and their work. This was the first Smiths song I had ever heard and I love it so damn much. Great lesson! You're a top teacher.

  • @akv2623
    @akv262310 жыл бұрын

    This is a great lesson, thanks so much for this. If you ever get the time I'd love to hear you break down more Smiths songs!

  • @victorcarreon123
    @victorcarreon12310 жыл бұрын

    Amazing tutorial! You are quite detailed and don't just rush through it for the sake of finishing the video. Well done! I really appreciate you taking time to explain this charming song so well!

  • @davecarpenter7266
    @davecarpenter72666 жыл бұрын

    I think johnny would be impressed. You nailed it, Adrian!

  • @shepgold
    @shepgold4 жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic lesson. I've been learning relative pitch for the past year and have been sussing out chords and songs for training but this lesson is so thorough and well explained I just sat back and took in the content. Brilliant!

  • @richardramirez4067
    @richardramirez40678 жыл бұрын

    whats the deal with that creepy dude to your left

  • @leonardocarneiro9520

    @leonardocarneiro9520

    2 жыл бұрын

    It represents Morrissey nowadays

  • @s3bast1aannn

    @s3bast1aannn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@leonardocarneiro9520 loooollll 🤣

  • @pippipster6767

    @pippipster6767

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s what they used to say to Johnny Marr 🤣

  • @ModernConversations

    @ModernConversations

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think he’s freaking out at how good the song is

  • @user-br4om4wm8s

    @user-br4om4wm8s

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leonardocarneiro9520 💀

  • @dedadoe
    @dedadoe3 жыл бұрын

    Pheww after one evening of repeating and repeating I almost got it up to speed with the recording. For now it's a great challenge! I think I'll have it down in a week or so. Thanks for the great tutorial!!

  • @tadams1767
    @tadams17678 жыл бұрын

    This was the first song I learned to play from start to finish, with help from guitar pro. Was advised that I should learn something easier before attempting Marr stuff, but find learning other stuff easier now after almost exclusively focusing on Smiths tunes. Found your channel looking for Kid solo, but was pleasantly surprised to see your full tutorial. Going to spend a day this week and try and master Kid. Your videos are fantastic learning tools. Thanks!

  • @julianpratt9616
    @julianpratt96165 жыл бұрын

    Only just seen this - there are a thousand tutorials on this song out there and this is quite simply the best. Used to play it and forgotten it completely and this got me back on it! Thanks for taking the time, loved it and brilliant tutorial. JP

  • @noerodriguez9710
    @noerodriguez9710 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this tutorial. It had always been my dream to learn this song on guitar and thanks to your tutorial I am able to play it in its entirety 🙏🏼😭

  • @andymoody8363
    @andymoody836310 жыл бұрын

    Hi Adrian, another great tutorial. I've been loving this song since I first taped it off the John Peel session back in 83 but never made the highlife connection before but you're spot on. Always something to learn...

  • @watfordkev
    @watfordkev6 жыл бұрын

    Your lessons are always excellent - you choose great material, and you explain really clearly. Thanks to you I’ve “broken into” some songs and solos I had presumed were beyond me, including this one! Thank you very much!

  • @dreamingofbears
    @dreamingofbears3 жыл бұрын

    giving me charlie from lost vibes all jokes aside, everything was extremely well said and what makes it even more impressive is the lack of cuts/edits in the video

  • @Gonzax
    @Gonzax2 жыл бұрын

    Very true what you say. JM is one of those musicians who work for the song, not to show off, as it always should be. Excellent tutorial, by the way.

  • @mattdoliver1984
    @mattdoliver19842 жыл бұрын

    May have commented before but this is by far the best tutorial for any song on KZread ....credit to you mate

  • @lamf04
    @lamf045 жыл бұрын

    Adrian, I love your unassuming demeanor while being such a boss player. I can play some shred style stuff but always found a level of “simplistic” genius in players like Johnny Marr that often gets overlooked. So glad you appreciate it too. Your vids are ace my friend

  • @johnanthony6123
    @johnanthony6123 Жыл бұрын

    This is the one of the best tutorials of all. Even alongside Johnny Marr’s own Headmaster Ritual tutorial. Brilliant.

  • @stringsthings
    @stringsthings6 жыл бұрын

    Having a lot of fun learning this song/lick! Excellent presentation and tone from the tele.

  • @jeffamsler8730
    @jeffamsler87307 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much...one of my favorite songs from an exceptionally gifted artist. Props for working so hard to teach us all...I am diving in and have the some work to do!

  • @simonholdaway7345
    @simonholdaway73454 жыл бұрын

    amazing lesson. note perfect. took a while to lock it in. who can believe Jonny Marr wrote this at 17years old? hats off. nice one Adrian!

  • @zachdods
    @zachdods5 жыл бұрын

    All the dislikes on this video are because they gave up and got frustrated because this is one of the best tutorials for such a complex song ever.

  • @somasoma9199
    @somasoma91998 жыл бұрын

    Been checking out most of the videos on your channel. Your an excellent teacher. Top notch stuff. I love the extra notes, tabs and how accurate you aim to get.. Took me about a week to get this song down but its definitely made me a better guitarist and your other videos have moved me along as well. Plan on going through a lot of them. Keep up the awesome work.. You should get paid to do this.. Il get my bassist and other guitarist to learn their parts and once I can sing and play at the same time (will take some time) adding this to our setlist!!!! Thanks bud!! also loved sound and vision + search and destroy

  • @davidphipps3
    @davidphipps34 жыл бұрын

    Your tutorials are top-shelf. Thank you for sharing. There’s actually no need to retune your guitar for this song. Johnny does it with a capo on the second fret. Cheers, Adrian!

  • @davecarpenter2517
    @davecarpenter25175 жыл бұрын

    Adrian, thank you. Spent an afternoon on it and nearly got the intro. Amazing teacher so clear. I am Jonny Marr. Ok, maybe not lol

  • @sonia665
    @sonia6655 жыл бұрын

    I.literally love you I've been playing just normal simple chord songs for like 4 years on and off and I was like yeah I'm gonna try something out of my comfort zone and this seemed impossible you play it with such ease but I'm getting there because of you im so so happy thank you :'( you are wonderful

  • @TheDannycoyne
    @TheDannycoyne10 жыл бұрын

    You give some quality lessons there Adrian. Good production quality and clear concise delivery make these lessons very easy to follow.

  • @donuttyman
    @donuttyman10 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to thank you for this brilliant tutorial. Really helped me get to grips with one of my favourite tunes!

  • @lawmasondc
    @lawmasondc10 жыл бұрын

    brilliant - thanks for the effort - a great tutorial for a great song

  • @acpg

    @acpg

    10 жыл бұрын

    Thank-you.

  • @warrenjoseph76
    @warrenjoseph764 жыл бұрын

    Really well done...had it down in no time thanks to you after dreaming of playing this for years. Thank you!!

  • @1busterchops
    @1busterchops10 жыл бұрын

    Love your tone on this and your precision

  • @geoffreymaher7169
    @geoffreymaher71693 жыл бұрын

    Took me two years, on and off, but I can finally come back to the video and play it along with you. Thanks!

  • @LGsusin
    @LGsusin Жыл бұрын

    This is the best lesson for this song available in this plataform. Amazing work friend.

  • @mariapais4666
    @mariapais46663 жыл бұрын

    This was so helpful, thank u so much! I’ve been trying to learn this song forever and finally I’m able to play it

  • @androvingie8334
    @androvingie83348 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this lesson. many thanks Andy

  • @TheDeanodoggy10
    @TheDeanodoggy102 жыл бұрын

    The Smiths are one of my all t8me favourites and I thought out of my league to play. Thanks to this lesson that’s changed! Thanks heaps Adrian.

  • @cmaddox1020
    @cmaddox10208 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for posting this. I've played this song fairly similarly to how you play it but after viewing your tutorial I picked up a few nuances I had missed. Great stuff!

  • @christianhahn1299
    @christianhahn12997 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great tutorial! Appreciate the patient clarity.

  • @vladyavorov3605
    @vladyavorov36055 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson! I thought I would never be able to play it, but you changed my mind. Thank you!

  • @gezzad
    @gezzad9 жыл бұрын

    stunning version. brilliant tutorial. thanks.

  • @RealReado
    @RealReado5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic clear and accurate lesson. There are more open string notes than I had realised!

  • @hectorhazard904
    @hectorhazard9048 жыл бұрын

    Spot on! This tutorial definitely comes in my top one of all guitar tutorials on youtube.

  • @ssmedz4335
    @ssmedz4335 Жыл бұрын

    Revisiting your lesson today after quite awhile. Brilliant study of it. Thank you very much

  • @AAH187
    @AAH1879 жыл бұрын

    Great instructional vid. Not a huge smiths guy but had to learn this riff. So glad I found this clip. Thank you!

  • @theiLhan
    @theiLhan8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your skills. This is just great.

  • @coreyhiggins621
    @coreyhiggins62110 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Excellent tutorial and insight into this song. I learned to play this song from another You Tube tutorial a while ago but it just didn't sound right. You've cleared up many of the minute details that version was missing. Thank you!

  • @martinjamesdaley
    @martinjamesdaley5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic demo. Like you I’d been playing it wrong for years! I’d been playing the bass run on the chorus instead of the correct part as shown in your vid. Quite a simple riff but devastatingly effective!

  • @clydeg4274
    @clydeg42746 жыл бұрын

    wooo i have been playing this slightly different for years since there was not a proper video on how to play it back when i learned it. This is perfect!!

  • @ssmedz4335
    @ssmedz43356 жыл бұрын

    What a super cool tune and a great instructor. Thanks

  • @mikebott6940
    @mikebott69405 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that you a) talk about the chordal construction, instead of just reading out tab and b) acknowledge the High Life influence, not that it was ever really a secret

  • @thehomme
    @thehomme3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this. It took me a few days to learn but now got it. The hardest part for me was the transition to those 2 major 7 chords. Great to find your site with loads of other tracks. How about doing a Sundays song?

  • @Kickaha
    @Kickaha10 жыл бұрын

    Really really excellent tutorial! Very thorough, & easy to follow. Thanks so much!

  • @paulconnelly4050
    @paulconnelly40508 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say, you are a fantastic teacher. And it's nice to see someone teach this version as opposed to the acoustic hatful of hollow version. Thanks.

  • @FLAVCO
    @FLAVCO9 жыл бұрын

    great work. I finally nailed it after much sweating. sounds so chimey on my Rickenbacker!! Love it!!

  • @acpg

    @acpg

    9 жыл бұрын

    Nick Flavell Thanks Nick. Yes, I imagine it sounds superb on a nice Rickenbacker!

  • @FLAVCO

    @FLAVCO

    9 жыл бұрын

    +anyonecanplayguitar.co.uk totally love your telecaster. Sounds great!! Is it a vintage guitar?

  • @acpg

    @acpg

    9 жыл бұрын

    +Nick Flavell It's a 52 reissue but it's about 20 years old - don't know whether that qualifies as vintage?

  • @FLAVCO

    @FLAVCO

    8 жыл бұрын

    +anyonecanplayguitar.co.uk I think 50s - 79 equals vintage but not 100% sure. Got to get me a Tele at some point :)

  • @TheJackie2007
    @TheJackie200710 жыл бұрын

    This lesson is gold! Ive always wanted to be able to play at least the intro. Thanks for this.

  • @josephsacher1048
    @josephsacher1048 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic lesson and a wealth of knowledge, as always. Thank you!

  • @eiderdown6208
    @eiderdown62089 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Adrian, very good tutorial as always love your stuff. Keep up the good work.

  • @ibrarmohammed1679
    @ibrarmohammed16798 жыл бұрын

    thanks a ton man, really wanted to learn this one and you give such a comprehensive and concise lesson i was able to learn it within an hour, will definitely check out more of your vids after this

  • @petriandy
    @petriandy9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot man! Or I guess as you would say--'cheers mate!' I especially appreciate your thoroughness in researching your version, & the fact that you've posted both standard music and tab notation (on the website)! Fine work, well done. I've always wanted to Leann this song and now I'm well on my way.

  • @kmdf68
    @kmdf689 жыл бұрын

    Thank You Adrian. This is the definitive lesson,brilliant job.

  • @lukemccormack3829
    @lukemccormack38297 жыл бұрын

    fantastic cover!! Seriously man well done!

  • @hughmcgettigan2930
    @hughmcgettigan29308 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous lesson, thanks! Being desperate to learn this a long time

  • @gheadtra
    @gheadtra5 жыл бұрын

    The best tutorial out there, you get every last detail! Thanks so much I’ve finally learned this :)

  • @henryyork
    @henryyork9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson! This is great, fun to learn something jangley and bright for a change!

  • @calmyourself405
    @calmyourself40510 жыл бұрын

    You good, good man. Been wanting to play this for donkeys' years - I would never have taken the time to work it out (well, obviously I didn't) but thanks to you I can play it now. Excellently paced video, dead easy to follow. Nice one squire!

  • @sausagesandcaviar2207
    @sausagesandcaviar22078 жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely brilliant. Thank You kindly young cove!

  • @jimirvine924
    @jimirvine9249 жыл бұрын

    That was great. So much better than other videos. You really broke the song down in an easy to understand and playable format. Kudos.

  • @mk6man452
    @mk6man4527 жыл бұрын

    thanks so much for this lesson such a sense of achievement when it all comes together.love your teaching style,many thanks...

  • @iainlawther6373
    @iainlawther63734 жыл бұрын

    Quality lesson! I've always wanted to be able to play this, gonna give it a go. Probably take me until xmas 🥴 Thanks 👏🙌

  • @lukenelson6027
    @lukenelson6027 Жыл бұрын

    Really good lesson mate, nicely broken down and very accurate

  • @raywoods1852
    @raywoods18526 жыл бұрын

    Thanks ever so! You've taken the pain and the strain out of learning.

  • @harryrigney3373
    @harryrigney33739 жыл бұрын

    superb lesson, really clear and concise. Really helped me.

  • @jamesbradley2397
    @jamesbradley23972 жыл бұрын

    This video is honestly the best one I’ve seen and I’ve learnt it from you! Thank you so much!

  • @calzirongaming1332
    @calzirongaming13327 жыл бұрын

    Cheers mate. Love this song and learnt it thoroughly. Great teacher.

  • @thadlogan51
    @thadlogan518 ай бұрын

    Amazingly great lesson... thanks!

  • @01270211136
    @012702111367 жыл бұрын

    Amazing lesson. Thanks for your time and effort producing this lesson. At first I thought...Not a chance in a million. I am just scratching the surface, but it is slowly happening. Go me, and praise to you. The super clean attack you get drives me mad though!!! Try and be a touch less good!

  • @pajotrus
    @pajotrus9 жыл бұрын

    it's great man! What would I have done without you!!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

  • @akv2623
    @akv262310 жыл бұрын

    Also, I love your mention of the African highlife style. As someone fairly new to guitar i'm having trouble following most of the tutorials online, but since you seem to do it best maybe you could outline some highlife basics. Thanks Adrian!

  • @acpg

    @acpg

    10 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Anders. Glad you enjoyed the lesson. I'm no expert on highlife style guitar, but I do love the sound of it. I might well do some research and listening and prepare a lesson on it in the future.

  • @akv2623

    @akv2623

    10 жыл бұрын

    anyonecanplayguitar.co.uk This would be greatly appreciated! Keep up the good work!

  • @akv2623

    @akv2623

    10 жыл бұрын

    Sweet! I definitley will.

  • @bernoulli884
    @bernoulli8845 жыл бұрын

    Love your tele!

  • @757flyer
    @757flyer9 жыл бұрын

    Excellent lesson. Loved it. Many thanks.

  • @airickp
    @airickp5 жыл бұрын

    Amazingly informative... thank you for all work

  • @damianoneil1078
    @damianoneil10786 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this fantastic lesson

  • @mauriceescargot4948
    @mauriceescargot49486 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. Really good, level-headed presentation

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