Timeline (random) 1:24 Dave suggest the open to have 3 GP 23:10 Junhwa cha leaving Brian Orser 31:09 Rika Kihira 31:47 return of wakaba Higuchi 32:38 Mai Mihara programs 33:54 Kaori Sakamoto 38:29 Jason Brown 40:00 Gilles/Poirier and Chock/Bates continuing…and other ice dance pairs 48:55 Anna Schberkova coming back? 49:22 Simone Biles/Suni Lee coming back 55:49 Korean borrowing Yuna style 56:45 Canada Day memories on Facebook 57:12 Gracie Gold Memoir 1:01:13 Papadakis Article

@sixuanwu1621

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57:07 Gracie Gold's memoir

@bettybleu12

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Thank you!

@KL-pv7cl

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You are the best! Thank you soooo much

@yugiohlegend

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Thanks for taking the time to make this!!!! Helped a lot :)

@mamima4

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Thank you❤❤❤

I immediately pre-ordered Gracie's audiobook. I want to hear her tell her own story. People who have survived trauma need to speak out. I'm 100% on board.

Junhwan has to actively attend school in Korea due to certain laws about student athletes, now that he's been a college student since covid. This is likely the reason he's leaving Orser, since he can't really be at cricket anyways.

I’m looking forward to reading Gracie’s book. It will be refreshing to read a skater biography that isn’t whitewashed, and I think it can be helpful for those who struggle with some of the same issues.

I was kind of surprised how much press Cha "leaving" the TCC got. He's been training in Korea since COVID started; while I don't doubt that Orser and co. continued to provide some valuable tips from over Skype, he hasn't been primarily a Cricket guy in three seasons already.

I missed Jonathan! Welcome back!!!

@TheSkatingLesson

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P. S. You're so right about reality shows helping get sports fans! My friend used to mock me for getting up at 4am to watch live skating events. But because of some Netflix show, she's now into Formula 1, getting up at 3am and buying expensive tickets to a race in Vegas! BTW, the same friend is a loyal every 4 years skating watcher. Lol. Bless her. I'm her "expert", who updates her with all of the TSL tea that NBC won't mention. 😁

Thank you, David and Jonathan, for the shout out and love for my hot pink dress!!! 💖 Also, love listening to you both. ❤️❤️ Thanks to my childhood friend and coach to Lucas Broussard - Darin Hosier - for sending this episode and introducing me to your FUN podcast! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Continued success to you both! 🍀🥰🍀🥰

In ice dance, I'm most interested to see Olivia Smart and Tim Dieck. They both have huge personalities and seem to be gelling really well. I wonder if they'll be right in there with the "B group" or if the judges are going to make them earn their way all the way up the ranks.

Recently, JunHwan was a guest on one of the famous Korean Variety Shows (2 days and 1 night), which is usually available on youtube with several subtitles. Hope more Korean skaters can be involved in television shows because many people are highly interested in and invest their time in Korean shows especially the "younger" generations.

Gracie must have some tea. She's already spoken out before about the toxicity of the FS community which went as far as causing her to have an ED.

What a nice 4th of July treat! Thanks Dave and Jonathan

@TheSkatingLesson

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Enjoyed the discussion! Very intrigued about Kaori's upcoming "mysterious and dangerous woman" program. 👀Cool that she's working again with Marie-France but too bad she won't be working with Rohene again. The 'heavy like a first day period' SP was one for the herstory books. Also excited for Wakaba's return, love and miss her always. Hope Jun keeps the momentum from the end of last season because I love his skating and know he has what it takes to be a champion. Also looking forward to Jason and anything and everything he does. For dance I'm looking forward to the 80s theme, should be fun. Even with veteran teams C/B and G/P returning I'm curious to see how some of the developing teams look this year, especially the reigning junior world champions from the Czech Republic. I think they could be a team to look for at the next Olypmics.

Thank you Dave and Jonathan! Looking forward to watching as always!

@TheSkatingLesson

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Thankful for this, from someone staying in, not interested in the 4th of July happenings, and itching to watch either figure skating or Tour de France. So un-American of me 😂

Orser vs Eteri is a fight I'd pay to see!

@EughhBrothereughh

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She would eat him for dinner

Gracie is truly a wonderful person. When she left the rink I thought she would never come back. But she overcame a lot of problems and came back! I admire her because she is not only beautiful but she has a wonderful spirit ♥️(I will buy her book!). Rika is also a beautiful person and I believe she will get over her problems too! But I think what she needs to do now is to focus on her treatment instead of forcing herself to compete. Although it is not a hot topic (lol), the ice show of Mao Asada, a former Japanese athlete, will be over soon. It seems that Wakaba, Mai and other young skaters came to this ice show. I also saw this ice show and I could feel that all the skaters were enjoying themselves and it was fun to watch. I know the current skaters are under a lot of pressure, but I hope they can enjoy skating as much as Mao and the other skaters did.

I can't remember the last time I heard skating being discussed in the office. Most people barely know the Winter Olympics is even on. Not making that up, sadly. I think I knew it was getting bad in 2006, when people in my office chose watching week 2 of American Idol over one of the marquee skating events. ☹️🤷‍♀️ Week TWO! 🙄

Hi Dave! Thanks for the video ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson

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Thank you guys.

@TheSkatingLesson

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Me! I'm a Simone stan! I feel like we need a skating version of Golden and these skaters need to be social media-ing like Simone because we want so desperately to root for a whole person, not just their skating

23/24 Hope fans support Rika. Missing Eunsoo Lim No disrespect but add Ashley & Polina to NBC event coverage I don’t get it. How has the sport not created NETFLIX docs.

You're right that sports are entertainment. I think a lot of people forget that. Tennis legend Billie Jean King said in an interview with Christiane Amanpour last week that tennis players need to remember what they're doing is entertainment first and foremost.

11:28 the Kamila Valieva situation in Beijing stirred some conversation among non figure skating fans 15:28 the Zagitova-Medvedeva rivalry made it to the mainstream articles in the US during Pyeongchang

I really appreciated the first day period joke! They “do be” heavy the first day.

With worlds in Montreal, my home town, there will be a lot of Celine Dion!

@TheSkatingLesson

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I think it is nice that Shoma and Marin seem to be more open about their relationship, it’s a great storyline for him, two skaters in love.

@TheSkatingLesson

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@user-po5ec1cz2z

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haha

OMG "like a golden retriever would!" Jonathon is so flipping quick with his humour!

@TheSkatingLesson

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Yay - what a nice surprise!

@TheSkatingLesson

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Surya’s back flip triple salchow were always rotated 😆

@TheSkatingLesson

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Didn't Timothy Le Duc do a program for Deanna and Max? Lots to look forward to this season..In USA women..I do want to see if my girl Audrey Shin can "come back"..also "the good looking boy from Arizona.."..My heart belongs to Kazuki..and I keep going back and forth on his sp..I don't want to see what makes him so special and performative..become ordinary..As far as Gracie, my heart hurts for her..and I hope her writing of this book helped her..TY, good show..

I agree that the percentage game used by coaches in skating is whack

I want simone gabby and suni to be the big three in paris and have a docuseries

Efimova last competed at 2023 worlds for Germany. So they have to sit ut a season and can't get the Skate America TBD

I agree with you, Dave, about giving an option for three events to certain level skaters. If you cannot do it because it’s too intense to do 3 events in the span of three months and then a Grand Prix Final, then do two events. If you are Meagan and get an invite and have the hutzpah to go for it, then do it. Why do people have to write in & be offended at Dave for endorsing that? lol

One thing you didn't touch on with comebacks -- Nathan Chen! I think he might try one of those rare-in-figure skating comebacks prior to the Olympic season. Why do I think that? Because at a Stars on Ice Meet 'n Greet I asked Nathan directly if he would return to compeititon and he said "that is the plan....that is under consideration". My take, he loves skating, he might be missing it. He seemed to be truly enjoying himself at SOI. Maybe he will dive into that for a few years between school and career.

@MsSkatefan

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I miss Nathan!

And ice dance reality show on peacock would be amazing!

@freedomlife3623

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No more reality show, it contributed largely to the hysteria American society is today. Does anybody really believe its the reality those show portraits, geese.

All the gymnasts need to be on “Hoda watch” as we are less than a year from the hysteric interviews on the Today show.

Who is the new coatch of Junh wa? I don t understand so mutch english

Trinity Thomas is competing in elite again too and I am here for it.

I agree with giving the top skaters an option for a 3rd Grand Prix. Skaters compete a lot more than they did in the past.

ASac being involved in the team selection scares me!

Some skaters only pay percentages, not for lessons. Including ones who are not yet in a position to give the percentages.

21:23 from Beauty and the Beast "I need 6 eggs!" 😅

There's really no need to poke fun at your commenters

Another thing is in order to get more interest in the skaters we need more skating on tv!

Kaori is love!

Orser doesn’t take percentage he just charge very high hourly fee

Was there a feud between Sarah Hughes and Robin Wagner? I had never heard this.

@My-hat

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Same, I just googled and can’t find it!

"heavy like a first day period" MWAHAHAHAHA

Intrigued, intrigued, intrigued, intrigued. How about some are other words/phrases to add to your repertoire: looking forward to, curious, interested, fascinated, captivated? 😁

About the “agent” % - Back in the day, coaches were the agents. And in modern day skating, often high level Oly hopeful skaters don’t pay the “rack rate” for all the hours coaches spend on them, with the understanding (written or not), that if there is big money somehow to be made after the Olympics, the coach/chor will share in that bounty.

Dave, are the 1988 Calgary Olympics the best Olympics skating has had? Something I’ve been thinking of lately. Even though I started skating in 1985 at age 13, 1988 marked the year I began being really dedicated to following skating whenever it was on tv.

Sasha Cohen returned for 2009-2010 but I don’t think she competed internationally that season.

I thought orser doesn't take any money from his skaters' endorsements. Doesn't he only charge a coaching fee?

I know it’s been 21 years but I still need a trigger warning when talking about Michelle Kwan’s SLC triple flip. I will never get over it. She did a perfect triple toe triple toe in the 6 minute warm up.

@MsSkatefan

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I feel the same way!!

@voxpopuli348

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I'm still angry that Kwan didn'f get the Gold in 1998. Cutsie 14 year old did not have artistry just a triple.

I’m sorry but I cannot get on board with Fear & Gibson when Fear is skating on that team. He’s a great skater but she is just way too calculated and rich and Instagram curated for me to even feel anything when I watch them skate live. Plus the Gaga number was as hokey as the climate change program of the Czech twins. I get it. Evan and Madison aren’t perfect. If they skated to Arcade Fire instead of Pink Floyd, I’d be more intrigued.

@nell30666

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This is for an eighties program, so Arcade Fire isn’t on the menu.

@JoshuaFazeli

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@@nell30666 Free Dance to Arcade Fire would be perfect.

For those who have been following Kamila since before she was a Junior - there has been a clear transformation in personality. She is bright, bubbly, cheerful, funny, passionate and resilient. Adventurous, bit of a daredevil, loves animals, dance, and Megan Fox (random) among other teen interests. Even as the golden child she has a bit of an alternative streak. Not as subdued and obedient as Scherbakova not as rebellious as Aliona. Kamila has really come into her own in the past couple years. She is confident and does not shy away from the camera as she did as an insecure 13 year old on her first JGP outing. Being propped up as this celestial skater probably boosted her confidence

Junhwan is Korean. He has Mandatory Military Service to start to think about.

@SwordSnapper289

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He will most likely be retired before he has to do his military service. He has to enlist by 28, but he is only 21. Plus they can delay conscription up to five times.

Wow, as if we didn’t have enough of the 3,25 Flootz Queen… 🙄🙄🙄

USAG chose Alicia over Moceanu. I literally cannot.

Dave, have you ever seen the Russian language interview with Valieva (English closed captions)? She talked about reading Stephen King's "The Green Mile", and said she was told the movie would make her cry. She wanted to read the book first. She came off as a very bright, nice girl.

@etherealtb6021

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Can you share the link?

@slumberland969

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For those who have been following Kamila since before she was a Junior - there has been a clear transformation in personality. She is bright, bubbly, cheerful, funny, passionate and resilient. Adventurous, bit of a daredevil, loves animals, dance, and Megan Fox (random) among other teen interests. Even as the golden child she has a bit of an alternative streak. Not as subdued and obedient as Scherbakova not as rebellious as Aliona. Kamila has really come into her own in the past couple years. She is confident and does not shy away from the camera as she did as an insecure 13 year old on her first JGP outing. Being propped up as this celestial skater probably boosted her confidence

@EughhBrothereughh

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He doesn't care. Shes russian. Russian -evil. And if she's good at FS double that evil. They're so jealous

@etherealtb6021

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@@EughhBrothereughh Lol. Everyone is always "jealous". 🙄

Ok, for the record, I love the Gabi Papadakis wine story and think it's hilarious...but I call BS on it. According to Wiki (yes, I cross-checked), there is not a competition that had Gabi, Madi, and this Anastasia person all there at the same time. So, either Anastasia is repeating something someone else witnessed as if she had been there, or the whole thing is made up. Or maybe lost in translation? Anyway.

@evanperilstein5308

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I saw that somebody else cross-checked and it must have been at the 2017/2018 GPF when P/C beat V/M because Anastasia was in the JGPF then, so they would've been at the same competition.

@JoshuaFazeli

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She’s French. So the wine must have been perfect.

@maryschreck2557

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@@JoshuaFazeli I expect nothing less from Gabi!!

@JoshuaFazeli

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@@maryschreck2557 love it!!!

39:52 The USFS should send all the white skaters to Skate America for the safety of BIPOC skaters

The Finnegan’s with their ultra right Christian crusade invading Team Phillipines.

Mientras no esten las rusas en el patinaje artistico, este sera una competencia entre aficionadas.

@mharlon09.

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Pero no habrá dopaje, mala técnica de quads y favoritismo 😊😊

@EughhBrothereughh

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@@mharlon09. Well then keep the same energy for American athletes will ya? Oh no right you cant. Plus no doping in the world can't make you graceful, cant make you jump higher and be artistic 🤡

@mharlon09.

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@@EughhBrothereughh to each their own, when the American athletes do shitty stuff they get what they deserve too just look at Shecaree Richardson in 2020. In figure skating the kind of doping you do is not the one like wrestling or weightlifting where you gett buff but the substances you take help you to produce more stamina which enhances you to endure longer hours of training and then eventually your jumps will get better the artistry is inherent just look at Trusova to confirm that Jeez. And besides they found three heart medications in Kamila and all of them help to have ENDURANCE.

Sports is about honing your craft and competing and winning ! I couldn't care less if you have a personality or not!! Too much dumbing down of sports worldwide! Too much American show biz nonsense making it's way into sports! We need to resist all that hyped up nonsense! Yes seeing rivalries is good but based on the skill of the athlete ! What you consider an interesting personality, to somebody else that person might be highly annoying!

@PeiwenTanbassoon821

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Sports need to make money by attracting audience after all and unfortunately without personalities(annoying or not) it is less likely to attract more audiences who are not familiar with the sports.

@rosie94204

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@PeiwenTanbassoon821 I understand what you're saying, however Federer considered one of the greatest, had very little personality on court. Just a calm and relaxed player who is prime example of his incredible talent of being a fantastic player winning loads of fans because they want to see the skills!! Born Borg was the same. Elena Rybakina another super player who is quiet and just gets on with her game. I follow sport's because I am interested in their skill! Personality is secondary and always should be.

@rosie94204

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@PeiwenTanbassoon821 most people follow the sport they're interested in. I don't follow football because I don't particularly have any interest in it . Somebody's personality is not going to make me want to watch it!!

@freedomlife3623

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I am with you, too much hype and portraying.

@PeiwenTanbassoon821

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@@rosie94204 I don’t follow gymnastics normally but I would tune it during the Olympics cuz I’ve heard so much about the athletes that they intrigued me to watch. And don’t think I would tune in at all if I’ve heard nothing about any of them. And honestly I find Federe having plenty of personality and I don’t know the other two at all. Might just be me not tuning in whatever sports they play (tennis also I assume?) but I bet I’d hear more about them if there’re more stories about them. I know non skating fans who had tuned in figure skating during Olympics cuz of Hanyu. Without athletes with personalities or intriguing stories ppl don’t even know the sport exist let alone tuning in occasionally or possibly gaining new fans.