This and That: 2022 Skate America & GP Russia (Ilia Malinin Quad Axel, Kaori Sakamoto)
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This week, the top skaters in the world headed to Norwood, Massachusetts for 2022 Skate America. Ilia Malinin landed a quad axel, Alexa Knierim and Brandon Frazier put on a pairs clinic with Deanna Stellato and Maxime Deschamps, Kaori Sakamoto showed up transformative programs, Isabeau Levito, Gracie Gold and Amber Glenn put the American ladies on the map, and Madison Chock and Evan Bates squeaked out a win over Kaitlin Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker (and we still love Kana Muramoto and Daisuke Takahashi). Meanwhile in Russia, Kamila Valieva attempted a quad toe and lost the free skate to Sofia Akatieva, Mikhail Kolyada and Dmitri Aliev made us feel like it was 2016, Evgenia Tarasova and Vladimir Morozov were...themselves, and Annabelle Morozov and Devid Naryzhnyy gave us some of our favorite programs of the season. It is an episode of 'This and That' you won't want to miss!
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Timestamps (in progress): 0:57 overall impressions/GP without Russians? 8:02 pairs in danger 13:20 Knierim/Frazier, pairs 24:24 aside from the top two pairs, “not nice to talk about the other ones” lolll 25:45 Ilia/ mens 41:44 Katya Kurakova 44:15 Kaori: fabulous except for the seaweed dress 47:50 Gracie 50:30 Amber Glenn 53:17 Isabeau 57:28 Hae-in Lee 1:01:12 Peacock - not good 1:03:47 Dance
@TheSkatingLesson
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Thank you
@aviva5093
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@@TheSkatingLesson amazing commentary as always :D just so you guys know: SOH-fya ak-AH-tyeh-vuh. Emphasis on the second syllable of her last name
Timestamps 9:45 - Tarasova/morosov (Russian GP) 10:52 back to Deanna/Max 13:18 Alexa and Brandon 20:29 back to Deanna/Max 25:49 - Men’s event - 25:49 Ilia Malilin - 32:21 Kao Miura - 32:46 Junwa Cha - 37:07 Liam Kapeikis / Dinh Tran - 38:10 Daniel Grassl - 40:34 Roman Sadovsky - 40:39 Wesley Chiu 41:46 - Women’s event - 42:00 Ekaterina Kurakova (Russian that compete for Poland) - 44:10 Kaori Sakamoto - 47:47 Gracie Gold - 50:33 Amber Glenn - 53:19 Isabeau Levito - 57:30 Haein Lee 1:01:00 - Ice Dance - 1:01:11-1:03:45 side conversation on Peacock Premium - 1:04:01 Daisuke/Kana - 1:09:55 Chock/Bates
@KL-pv7cl
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Omg thank you! You are amazing as usual.
@helenluo5112
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😊 thanks!
@TheSkatingLesson
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Thank you
I'm obviously not the only one who has noticed Isabeau's tendency to kill all her speed going into her jumps.
@TheSkatingLesson
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Correct
@tcduong1138
Жыл бұрын
Add Ashley Wagner to folks calling out Isabeau’s lack of speed. Her post event analyses were spot on. She balanced being critical with being kind.
@youarestronger
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If she has speed and slows, that is mental as much as poor technique
Surprised more people haven't been talking about Jun's two programs this season. I think they're real crowd-pleasers and is my personal favourite packaging out of what we've seen by far. They play to his artistic strengths and once he gets his jumps a little more under control (curse you 3A) I believe this will be a very special season for him. Fingers crossed he finally breaks 100 in the short!
@L.Spencer
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He's become one of my favorites to watch. He just needs to add a smooth criminal move of grabbing an imaginary hat, maybe at the end.
@elainetyger
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He and Donovan Carrillo, at opposite ends of the scoreboard, were the two non-US men who came in as crowd favorites. They were cheered when they first appeared and when they finished.
@sadz42
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@@elainetyger I think it goes to show how far charisma, natural musicality and a good foundation for pcs can take you! those 2 are my personal favourites this season as well.
@anthonydolio8118
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I agree with you. Both of his programs are excellent. And he skates with such great speed and confidence and personality. He has really come into his own, as they say. I love him.
@MsAMusicLover
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I am trying to get over the loss of Jason, Yuzu, Vincent, Nathan. Jun is the only male skater that gives me hope! His programs are compelling from beginning to end. Chef’s kiss to the Juna Bauer. If he can nail that 3A….
Thank you! Always look forward to these thoughtful discussions from you two.
@TheSkatingLesson
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Glad you enjoyed it!
Amber Glenn impressed me in the free skate. The music at first was hugely disappointing but then it built. Her interview after was also good. She seems more refined overall this year. Good job!
@hellsbellsmichelle
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Amber was great. Her music choice wasn't.
@theprinceoftides6836
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@@hellsbellsmichelle Truth, nailed. She seems more consistent , which is a positive.
@anthonydolio8118
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No one does a triple loop like Amber. She enters with those three turns. And, as she does, she picks up a lot of speed and then comes out of the jump with more speed than when she started. It is truly something to behold.
@hellsbellsmichelle
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@@anthonydolio8118 I know. But go back to 2016 Worlds and watch Ashley Wagner, she did a series of consecutive 3 turns for her 3L entry. And it was glorious.
The shade is so nuanced here, it had me rolling in the floor, laughing. And the Sandra Bezic impersonations - I'm here for it. What a wonderful exclamation point to this competition. Oh, and Naa being in the front row, of course!
@TheSkatingLesson
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❤️❤️
My moments of the week: 1. EVERYTHING by Kaitlyn Hawayek and Jean-Luc Baker. They were entirely mesmerising. Even Cuban Pete. I hope the judges can get behind it through the season. 2. Ilia Malinin's 4A. 3. Kaori's FS. She is glorious.
The US needs to consolidate its pairs resources. No more 18,000 random pairs that won't improve. Mitch needs to pick a couple of well matched teams and pay for good coaches/choreographers.
Wasn’t expecting portal innuendo from this recap. You’re spot on about rock type music being a good fit for Alexa and Brandon. The schmaltzy LP music they’ve been using the last couple doesn’t work to their strengths. They should be doing action/sci-fi/ thriller TV and movie scores like The Flight Attendant, Terminator, etc. They could have done a Mission Impossible LP and say they are depicting their journey to get their Olympic medals.
@TheSkatingLesson
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🤣🤣🤣
Thanks, Dave and Jonathan, for another great show. I’m kind of disappointed with Chock and Bates material. They’re clearly much better than that. Hawayek and Baker are so lovely to watch. Muramoto and Takahashi RD costume. OMG! It’s so gorgeous, if I were an ice dance skater, I would look for this designer immediatly. Don’t know if it’s the same person who did their costume last season. That was also a killer costume.
Donovan and Amber’s exhibitions skates were also highlights for me!
Very interesting to be there in person this week....best moments were Ilia's 4A (followed by him hyping the crowd up for the ugliest step sequence there) and H/B's FD, particularly the one foot sequence at the beginning
Isabeau reminds me of Zhenya and Anna once they turned 17ish, aka injured from weird technique and fighting through it
@angieortizurena3327
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Zagitova, Shitnikova, Valieva, Kostornaia, Usacheva, and counting
@etherealtb6021
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I think if she went to Sandra, it would all look so much better. And she'd get rid of those grandma costumes!
@janvdb9258
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She still looks elegant unlike Zagitova who looked like quasimodo
@Jeremy-wp4yh
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@@janvdb9258 that drastic change in appearance happens when the puberty blockers stop
@amethyst5512
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Well, you get a few more years out of the bad jumping from the back technique when you’re on a regimen of drugs since childhood. Isabeau doesn’t have the benefit of being born into a state sponsored doping program, which is good news for her internal organs & bone density long term health, but unfortunately her spine will likely suffer a similar fate because that type of jump technique is really bad for your back. She will just likely be done a bit sooner than the Russian girls. Like really any moment now a big injury or growth spurt could be it for her.
Some people may see it as "hate" but I love the fact you give real constructive criticism towards the skaters you think would use it. E.g. Daniel Grassl- I think it shows that you respect his talent and work ethic(I hope he goes for more Jason Brown and less Benwah too!)
Kaori is giving me all the Michelle Kwan 1999-00 Season vibes. I’m becoming a stan.
@TheSkatingLesson
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💯
@tracienieto2722
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The HAIR!
For your information, Mao has been quite visible in Japan since retiring. She toured all over Japan for 3 years for her “thanks tour” and now she is staging her “beyond tour”. It is unfortunate the international presence is limited partly due to Mao’s conscious effort to keep ticket price low and thus lacking international big name skaters. She has definitely contributed to keeping interest in figure skating high in Japan the middle of pandemic.
@TheSkatingLesson
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Mao's tours are not as visible as those in The Ice, etc. It isn't shade, but we don't see as much the other skaters.
@len10100
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I totally agree! Haven’t really heard of Mao after going pro.
@TheSkatingLesson
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@@len10100 would love to see more of Mao!
@user-hf9uu5um9h
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Мао была моей любимицей. Интересно, как сложилась ее жизнь после большого спорта?
@Michelle-fh4wt
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@@TheSkatingLesson Well her Thanks Tour was dedicated for locals that usually wouldn't be able to pay for high prices of other big ice shows...
Agreed on HaeIn’s program. I loved her Firedance program, and would love to see her doing something more upbeat. She is talented, I want her to have her moment.
@TheSkatingLesson
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Agreed!
The whole pairs event was just an okay time. The two top pairs were great. I appreciated their artistry and cleanliness. Past that, it was a lot of okay. I hope some federations really put some time and effort towards developing pairs.
Moments of the week - Malinin’s 3Lu3A & 4A; Hawayek/Baker; Deanna and Max; and Kaori. I needed one per discipline!
@TheSkatingLesson
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❤️❤️❤️
@denisecampbell6736
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I was literally like this 😱😱😱😱 after that 3T/3A Ilia threw down at the end of that. I mean...How!?! You need speed, speed, speed to pull off a 3A, so...How!?! The kid’s for real & it’s rather scary in a really great way. 😁 I was so thrilled for Deanna & Max!!! One thing no one else seemed to notice though...The way Max treated Deanna during the Podium Ceremony. I mean, he was clearly looking out for her, like in the way he helped her up on the Podium, to how he was making sure the focus was on her....It just reminded me so much of Sergei Grinkov & how he treated/presented Katia back in the day. Maybe just me, but it was something I picked up on. 😊 My very favourite moments of Skate America : Ilia showing he’s for real here, Deanna & Max’s performances, but especially that oh so special SP of Gracie Gold!!! I never ever thought I’d ever see her at a GP again. So when her name was announced, I cracked my neck I turned my head so fast to the iPad screen. 😄😄 Then I was doing this afterwards 😂😂😂😂😂 Haven’t yet seen either of the Ladies or Dance Frees yet, we had a planned Power Outage to work on the Grid before the Snow flies all day yesterday, so not sure how Gracie did yesterday. As I told her on Twitter though : It doesn’t matter. She’s already won just by making it back to a Skate America again. Oh...Does anyone know if a team....ANY Team....using the Soundtrack from Encanto for their Rhythm Dance this Season? Please tell me in a year where it’s a Latin Rhythm for the RD, there’s not no one skating to Encanto? It’s such a great Soundtrack & no, I’m not talking about a certain song either, but the Instrumental parts of the Soundtrack. It’s soooo good & just screams Ice Dance Program!!! Hell, it makes me want to Dance & I’ve got a bad knee & hip ATM that makes it impossible. 😁😁 Anyway...Thanks for reading that epic up there LOL!! Take Care!! 😊
not sure if you saw this already, but valieva’s comment after the free was very telling: “the opinion of the fans doesn’t affect me, only the opinion of my coaches”
@youarestronger
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I know she's a kid and a cog in the system but there is an arrogance that comes with pretending like you're innocent when you are guilty af that is so off putting. I hope she feels as gross saying that stuff as we do hearing it.
@fsc4823
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@@youarestronger we technically still don’t even know if she was aware she had anything in her system. that doctor just handed all of those girls their shakes at every competition. i’m not saying this is 100% what happened or that kamila should be saying these things at all, but i do feel like we have to consider her situation and the adults around her. eteri once prevented alina zagitova (gold medalist 2018) from seeing her own mother for months at a time because she said it was a distraction from her training. kamila’s parents haven’t made a single statement regarding the situation. it’s very likely that even if kamila is saying this stuff on her own, it’s because eteri has isolated her and manipulated her perspective. i know that sounds dramatic but why on earth would eteri welcome that doctor back onto her team after his previous doping scandal?? why would the supposed “best coach in the world” have a team doctor with a record of athlete abuse? eteri is morally bankrupt. and for kamila i’m not saying everyone has to love her or like her at all, i just personally can’t image what she’s been put through. ☹️
@fsc4823
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@@kara1460 i don’t disagree, there’s a lot about her that i don’t love. that doesn’t mean i can’t have empathy for her. someone can be fortunate in lots of ways and still have ready bad things going on that can ruin them. it’s not black and white 🤷🏻♀️
@blueclover9918
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That's unfortunate - as it's her coaches which got her into trouble in the first place. I wonder how much awareness she has of that, considering God knows what they've told her already. Also, how can a skater say they don't care about the opinion of thousands who come out and pay tickets, and even support them? Idk. It sounds like a pre-prepared "opinion".
@nl887
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@@youarestronger we dont know if she knew she had the drug in her system or not so currently we dont know if shes innocent or guilty, but the coaches are the one who are guilty but the russians get brainwashed in that abusive system too.
I predict an Aljona comeback...possible for the coming season? I can just see her seething that Deanna is thriving and it should be her.
@hellsbellsmichelle
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OMG - I thought I was the only one to have "that" thought.
@jamiejoonks
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Her partner doesn’t want to come back though so she’d have to find a new one
@skaterboy-cz9wj
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I wouldn't mine Alijona coming back and falling flat on her butt. I appreciate she is a real competitor but she has had her moment. Moments. She has had more than her time in the limelight.She easily could have had a third oly bronze instead of gold.
@My-hat
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Don’t forget her last choice of partner and all what went on and who they were coached by zeeeesh!😮. I had to look up to check names as I went blank . TJ nyman and Dalilah. Alijona Wikipedia doesn’t mention them at all!!! Hmmm!
@youarestronger
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@@My-hat totally disgusting...
Russia has 10X more male figure skaters than other countries, probably more male figure skaters than other countries combined=plenty of potential partners for pairs. Pair skating is also very expensive, (outside of Russia) with the female having to absorb the costs of the most sought after male partners in most countries. Not so in Russia where the fed invests in pairs and is now only joining partners with very strong singles abilities. (sbs triple lutzs and triple flips for example). As figure skating loses popularity, I don't see any hope for pairs outside of Russia. (In Russia, Isabeau would have been moved to pairs)
@Catalina_Estevez
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👍
I loved Katya’s FS 💛😊 She deserved more PCS! She is in character all throughout the program.
@SM-gy5wv
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that was literally her sound track, i was manifesting 'up' for her so hard this season
Finally, someone telling the truth about Katya! While I love her spirit when she’s performing, I am not a fan of the cutesiness of her routines. I think it’s way overdone. She needs to find someone who will provide her with a more mature persona while retaining her sparkle.
@My-hat
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She is 20 years old and very endearing. But because she looks young they get away with it. 😊.
Loved seeing Gracie! She seemed much improved and I hope she just keeps growing.
@TheSkatingLesson
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❤️❤️❤️
@tracienieto2722
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Very impressed with Gracie. EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep it together girl😆
Would love to see Isabeau take a short trip down I-95 and work with Malinina/Skorniakov some on her jumps...
Was good seeing Gracie Gold on the ice again. She's made alot of progress. I just wish she fought harder in the free skate. Although, the ladies division does need more excitement. Llia made history, but I find it strange that he calls himself the "quad God" when it's still so early in his career. Nathan Chen and yuzuru hanyu are alot more humble. They let their achievements speak for them.
@cecile5090
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His parents are Russian heritage (or Ukrainian) and I've noticed that some people from that part of the world brag on themselves whereas North Americans are taught not to be boastful.
@zeel5689
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I wouldn’t read into that… I skate along side him at the same rink in Reston. He does what any 17 year old does… socializes, he’s a respectful skater that doesn’t act like a diva just because he’s so good. Nice kid. He said the quad god thing was kind of to inspire him and self motivate.
@JackAShepherd
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I agree... I really hate the lack of humility
@letitiakearney2423
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@@cecile5090 His parents where both born in Russia
@shelleyc853
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I found it a bit cringe but it is good marketing. And fair play to the lad, he backs up with the quads
I love pairs. The men's field is insane nowadays with artistry and jumps but I grew up with G&G, M&D, Brasseur and pervert Eisler, pairs is so exciting, throws...the lifts are now hideous though but still my favourite discipline
@skaterboy-cz9wj
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What do you mean by pervert Eisler.
@youarestronger
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@@skaterboy-cz9wj people sure don't like to Google on their own lol he was busted sending texts to a teenager...Skate Canada did nothing
@My-hat
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@@youarestronger sounds like cipres!
@youarestronger
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@@My-hat Yes and the French Fed did nothing...wonder what is going on with him...will he ever be extradited?
I looooved Hawayek and Baker! Not to say that Madi and Evan’s program didn’t have its moments (especially that lift and the sliding movement at the end), but I was totally mesmerised by H/B.
If I got opera for isu on my laptop could I cast it to my tv? Probably a stupid question
@TheSkatingLesson
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Yes
It was interesting to watch Skate America on TV instead of being there I live only 20 minutes from that arena lol. Oh well hopefully there will be a future event there again!
@TheSkatingLesson
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🙏❤️
Anyone has a timestamp? thank you so much!
Damn I'm just going to bed to will have to watch tomorrow
@TheSkatingLesson
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Poor Isabeau, I am so worried that she is already injured because of the technique...
@TheSkatingLesson
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Me too
@viktoria8189
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Kihira had good technique and is fighting the trauma for how many, 3 years now?...
@Michelle-fh4wt
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@@viktoria8189 well one should also consider the coaching teams that mismanaged her.
@mihaillenivov485
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@@TheSkatingLesson It reminded something
I suspect that Madison and Evan were ill during the competition. She sounded hoarse during their interviews and he looked sick after the FD, so that definitely would've impacted their performances. I do agree, however, that I'm not sold on their programs, but I could be if they re-work them a bit. I much prefer Hawayek and Baker's programs at this point.
@L.Spencer
Жыл бұрын
I got that impression, too, that maybe they were sick or recently sick.
Oh great, so I can't download Opera because my laptop is Chrome OS, how else can I get vpn?
O’Shea/Calalang? Anyone?
I think the music you keep calling Circles is actually called Experience (Circles was just a remix of Experience that Smart and Diaz used, but not the name of the song). Agree Ilia looks like an imitation Nathan, especially this free programme. The 4A is truely incredible, but the rest of the programme leaves me feeling flat. Kaori was a definite highlight for me this weekend! Also still love Roman despite the errors every flippin time - that second spin in the free actually gave me chills, and can't think of a time ever that a spin has done that!
@TheSkatingLesson
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Circles is what the remix is called with the added vocals. It is the version many skaters use.
@robamell4216
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ludovico einaudi
@Unfiltered494
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Ilia's skating is nothing like Nathan's. He reminds me much more of Yuzuru tbh, except without the refinement and control, but those might come with age and experience. But nope, definitely not an imitation of Nathan.
@eljj7968
Жыл бұрын
@@Unfiltered494 Not saying he skates like Nathan, but that he looks like he's trying to imitate him in terms of the style of programme.
I’d like to believe that on tour Daisuke is dropping watermelons off hotel rooftops and Kana is teaching La Sserafim dance choreo to cast members after 3 am jagerbombs.
@taraLipinskikfan033
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😂
@skaterboy-cz9wj
Жыл бұрын
Ah dropping watermelons off hotel rooftops is probably a criminal offence.
@BillyWhaler
Жыл бұрын
@@skaterboy-cz9wj hotel rules and statutes don’t apply to Daisuke and Tommy Lee.
Oh boy, waiting for the Skate Canada video, what a tense weird competition.
Interesting this event was on the same day as Yuna's wedding which was stunning. She looked so beautiful.
@TheSkatingLesson
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❤️🥇
@youarestronger
Жыл бұрын
So glad she didn't end up with the nasty hockey player and found someone devoted to her instead
@user-red47854
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@@youarestronger That's like ancient history. Have you been hibernating for a decade?
"Does she go clubbing with Rohene?" LOLLLL
@TheSkatingLesson
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Not Dave finding sketchy doctors for Evan 😂
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
He needs one!
Was there in person. That Quad Axel was amazing!
@TheSkatingLesson
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💯
All of us skaters want a "rental full of smooth rides and cascades!"
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes!!!
Again... Satoko could have under-rotated every single one of her pick jumps all the way to an Olympic gold medal!
I had no idea Morisi has a youtube channel, where have I been? I found it searching for Annabelle.
for Annabelle's fd they spoke about the program idea actually - he's supposed to be a sorcerer of some sort and she's a dead woman in the beginning, then he brings her back to life, they argue, because only one must stay alive in the end, so he takes her life away eventually though he loves her i'm so confused about how they come up with these concepts
@alexandramercurio3250
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A Russian speciality
Justice for KanaDai...they were freaking robbed. They literally have the only Rd I've really liked this season. Particularly the first 10 seconds...King and Queen of Latin rhythms imo. Also imo Deanna deserved to win over Alexa...particularly after Alexa's second throw. Also ilia might be one of the rare skaters for whome I have my fingers crossed during the choreo sequences instead of the jumping passes...like he's skidding all over the place and it's so damn difficult to watch. He's so exciting to watch and his fs music edit is so fun but the when he's done with the jumping passes...the spell is broken sigh...
@ColonelGreen
Жыл бұрын
They were absolutely not robbed. Daisuke is charismatic, but he is still very shaky on a majority of the elements, especially the twizzles and lifts; they were overscored in the rhythm dance, in particular.
@RED-cy7ig
Жыл бұрын
I love alexa&brandon but it looked like Deanna&Max should have won.
@jcaslove1
Жыл бұрын
The pairs result was right and the protocols look accurate. Deanna and Max just didn't generate enough points and Alexa and Brandon were able to leave a ton of points on the table and still win.
@yohanes2034
Жыл бұрын
Ilia chsq... He almost tripped and fell, funnily enough some judges already put the GOE before it was finished (before the problem) and they gave him like 1.5 GOE before it came down a bit. I mean idk what to tell you except that chsq should be getting minus GOE
Isabeau's FS song is in Romanian, a very cheesy lovesong, of the sort "I melt under your look" excerpt from the lyrics.
@CelebratetheWeekend
Жыл бұрын
I cant vouch about the lyrics but the music is famous waltz by Moldovan composer Eugene Doga and it gives me goose bumps. I think it does suits ger on ice personality and style
As a skating fan from Poland, you need to stop calling Katia "fake Polish girl". It's super disrespectful both to her and to the Polish fans. Why don't you call other skaters who changed nationality "fake"? Did you ever call Tanith Belbin a fake American girl? She was born in Canada, after all. Katia has the citizenship, has been representing Poland since she was a junior, speaks the language, has a bf and friends here, says it's her home as much as Russia is. For the love of God, it's not so hard to be respectful.
Maybe Kurakova can go more of a Kaetlyn Osmond route? Not saying they’re similar they just both have sweet personality that I enjoy watching despite how they did
Damon has been getting good use of those Gucci snake Jordaan loafers for years. They are spring summer 2014. I have them too!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️
MF already has a french team with a Russian lady, Lopareva/Brissaud transferred to Montreal about a month ago.
@Rachel-rs7jn
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and they are really good. I absolutely noticed them last season and expect to see them make a splash this year.
Unrelated question (sorry!), but do you know, Dave, if the world gymnastics championships will be televised? I can't find information on this anywhere. Thank you so much!
@mysticalmargaret6105
Жыл бұрын
In the NBC broadcast of Skate America they advertised the upcoming World Gymnastics Championships. Apparently, in the US, it will be shown on Peacock, and other NBC affiliates like the Olympic channel. Check your local listings. USA Gym will be streaming some of the event on their platform. The BBC will also be broadcasting the event. Again, check local times and listings.
@davidandrusia137
Жыл бұрын
@@mysticalmargaret6105 thank you so much!
@CelebratetheWeekend
Жыл бұрын
@@mysticalmargaret6105 i only saw 1 90 min NBC broadcast on nov 5th in the TV Guide. Peacock is only showing LIVE these days
@ardeladimwit
Жыл бұрын
check FIG channel on KZread as they are streamed live -- at least in Europe--and then stay posted
I don't know if I think of Katya being "fake-polish" the same way I think about Ryabova or Moris. She trains outside of Russia for all of her adult career and she doesn't represent the Russian style of skating
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
It was meant to be fun. Yes, she does live outside. It is a good point.
@SilenceHurtsMore
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson It is time to stop calling her fake-polish, it is not really funny.
Where do we watch the competitions with a VPN? I tried but I couldn't find them.
@charlottethompson6193
Жыл бұрын
I had trouble finding the live streams and videos, too. I subscribed to ISU KZread then clicked on ISU in my subscriptions. Sometimes the live stream or videos popped up on top, but sometimes I had to scroll down to find the,.
@My-hat
Жыл бұрын
I switched mine to Spain. And watched isu youtube channel.
Could you post or do you have links to watch Russian competitions?
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dron/hkNUJc2Yvo8ZCtmXBSMxtg.htmlfeatured
@sheriwhite7303
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Another good session. Love that we are back into real competition. Keep up the hard work❤
@Jaybeartx
Жыл бұрын
Great sweaters guys!
@Jaybeartx
Жыл бұрын
Dave bring back the pink!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
I wear it on Wednesday on instagram!
Hey, please don't call Katia Kurakowa "fake Polish"! That is really demeaning. She is a Polish citizen and has really made Poland her new homeland, speaking very good Polish as well.
I missed the livestream on Peacock -- would appreciate tips for watching Skate America! I know you can VPN and use the ISU channel on KZread, but what VPN do people use?
@JKW102
Жыл бұрын
I’m watching from Japan and I was able to stream ISU KZread live with a VPN called cat vpn . Free to use . It will cut out every 30 min or so but otherwise it worked !
@daphenaxa
Жыл бұрын
Windscribe free VPN put on the Hong-Kong location
@charlottethompson6193
Жыл бұрын
I just started using a VPN on Friday. I use Surfshark. It was recommended by CNET.
@tranquilitytranquility1407
Жыл бұрын
Express VPN
@PeiwenTanbassoon821
Жыл бұрын
I like to watch skating with my family on tv so the vpn/opera route did not work out for me 🥲
I miss the JGP broadcasts! Better presentation, with re-watch capability, better analysis, and presenters who are silent during a performance. Tara and Johnny are wearing out their welcome. The constant loud yacking during a performance is just rude and spoils the story/mood the skaters work so hard to present. The US Figure skating is missing so many relatively inexpensive ways to bring figure skating to more viewers. Even a weekly Facebook/KZread show discussing the weekly events, features on athletes and education on the rules to clarify why things are scored a certain way. Oh wait, there is TSL! My Moments: 1Ilia Malinin’s 4A 2In pairs Deanna/Maxime over Knierim/Fraxier 3In Dance Hawayek/Baker over Chock/Bates. I did enjoy the 3rd place Canadian’s Pink Panther though Johnny was right about the need to improve the males footwork. 4Kaori skates. She was just on a different level. I was happy that Gracie Gold is getting stronger and Amber Glen was a pleasant surprise. On pairs, I wonder if all the female head injuries are making parents discourage going that route. Finding talented and strong male partners may also be an issue.
Really enjoy your analysis! After K/F fd score she seemed to stomp away from the k&c and he went in a different direction. Seemed odd, did anyone else notice that?
@jcaslove1
Жыл бұрын
She left the kiss and cry slightly early, but she definitely didn't stomp lol. She seemed in good spirits afterward and looked very happy on the podium.
The reason it wasn't packed for every event is because there were no single-session tickets. They sold out of the "all event" passes quite quickly. We bought two seats and split with in laws but none of us went to dance events. I think that caused more "empty seats" than if they'd offered single-session tickets.
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
They really need to work on that for future competitions.
@heatherlynch2765
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson I agree. We were initially quite annoyed by it. The all-event passes were an amazing deal (275/seat - ticket face value of 47 per event), so we could afford it but we also could not attend every event! I'm sure there were many other people like us. Some people can't spend three days in a row at an ice rink, and yes you could try to share or sell off ind. events, but that takes work and coordination.
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
@@heatherlynch2765 they certainly made money on those parking passes for 180!
@heatherlynch2765
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson LOL TRUE. That's where they made up for it I guess, oy.
I'm glad Alexa and Brandon were able to win after starting preparation for the season so late. It's a promising start and I think it's their best material. The short program music is especially effective. They way they skate powerfully with so much amplitude on the throws really stood out. Deanna had a great competition, but their score was very beatable and K/F were able to surpass it even with one of their lowest scores. Those two teams saved the pair event for sure. Great result for Alexa and Brandon to build on.
Some general comments. The fields weren't nearly as deep without the Russians. Still it was interesting because it was so unpredictable. Who would have thought Chock and Bates would almost lose to H/B. And the downfall of Carolane and Shane and the rise of their compatriots to steal the bronze with pink panther was a dramatic act. I think many felt the dance and pairs should have had the second place teams win. The ladies wasn't quite the skaters or battle. It was nice to see Ilia skate so well.
@tracienieto2722
Жыл бұрын
I mostly missed them in pairs. I dont care for Russian ice dance right now
@skaterboy-cz9wj
Жыл бұрын
@@tracienieto2722 Fair enough but regardless dance has also fallen in level of skating without the French.
@tracienieto2722
Жыл бұрын
@@skaterboy-cz9wj absolutely
Unfortunately when Nathan was competing he always had to dim his own accomplishments because of a certain fandom. ilia has no fear and I love that 🙃
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Very true
@louisehancock324
Жыл бұрын
I agree, but I also think Nathan is not as outgoing as Ilia. He seems introspective.
@user-gg9uu9kx9w
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe because Nathan was a neutered bore with no personality and Ilia is confident and outgoing with a cluster B mother, Yuzuru or no Yuzuru
@Patrick-vj1qu
Жыл бұрын
@@user-gg9uu9kx9w and there it is, y’all are insane
@user-gg9uu9kx9w
Жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-vj1qu You’re the insane one for proposing that boring drone with zero thoughts in his head could ever say anything interesting or controversial like Ilia lollll
41:44 women’s event timestamp
@emma_liu
Жыл бұрын
thankyou this helped
@adelinemcgowan5067
Жыл бұрын
Doing the lords work
I just thought of something. Dave could pair up with Alijona. They could skate to Carmen with Dave playing the role of Carmen or better yet the dualing Carmen's - who can out diva the other.
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
"...all sorts of what the hell" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I will be using this descriptor in the future!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
This is the time for the USA to push Junior level skaters to be a pairs team by assisting financially.
@lollypop2414
Жыл бұрын
All of the countries with deep singles fields should be doing this.
@amethyst5512
Жыл бұрын
They need to look younger than just junior. They need to be supporting them from the novice level and possibly younger. The American juniors aren’t great overall and a lot of them are already teenagers who could have benefited from better teachers at a younger age.
@jjh2456
Жыл бұрын
Yep.
I’m here for the Sandra impersonations 😂
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
That 4A was like “SWISH”
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
💯
Peacock is so frustrating! Can’t re-watch anything? There is not even a “box” to click on for figure skating anymore.
@tracienieto2722
Жыл бұрын
I know. I e gone on so many tangents about this. Dave said u can download opera browser and watch but it has ti be android or PC. My PC is in storage i have an ipad so im trying a vpn?? I guess??? Screw peacock. I canceled. Im so pissed.
@swurvestar1
Жыл бұрын
I know it's horrible. I'm so glad my Peacock was free by paying with Amex. It's ridiculous that I had to use a VPN to another country to watch something that was literally 10 mins from my house.
@amethyst5512
Жыл бұрын
I pay for so many streaming services but never peacock. I just use a vpn, it’s better all around.
@L.Spencer
Жыл бұрын
I was going to sign up for peacock but decided why bother.
@debbied2715
Жыл бұрын
I get Peacock free with my Xfinity internet, so I'm thankful for that but the change to livestream only and no replays really sucks when the competitions are overseas and 4 am my time.
Why are people in the comments section so triggered that ilia calls himself the quad god? Maybe it’s the american and japanese culture that teaches people that you need to be overly humble to a point where at sometimes it becomes forced. Instead, when you are great at something, be confident about yourself and own it. That’s what he is doing, i mean he just landed a historical jump that nobody else in the world of figure skating has done before. He also has landed constistently all other quads in competition and posted on his instagram during his practice many quad-quad combos that i’ve not seen anyone do. His presentation is not the best and there any many aspects of his skating that aren’t polished but he doesn’t call himself the figure skating god, he calls himself the quad god and i don’t believe it’s arrogance at all considering what he is achieving already at 17.
@natalie_lucky
Жыл бұрын
Being humble is Asian culture, not at all American
@AC-co6cp
Жыл бұрын
He's the first person to do a quad axel in an ISU sponsored event. He is the Quad God, period.
Can anybody from Canada tell me where you can stream replays of the competitions this season? Can you watch replays with CBC Gem Premium?
@shasty9
Жыл бұрын
CBC Sports app. You can also set figure skating to specifically be one of your favourite sports for your feed :)
@alisonmidgley107
Жыл бұрын
KZread ISU channel
I was trying to spot Dave in the audience in Norwood-was looking forward to say hello:)
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Next time!
As right now, the short dance doesn't have sense anymore, because with the new rules and without a pattern Is as if you have two free dances: the only difference Is that One Is shorter and with a common theme for all the teams 😑
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
As for Ilia’s removal of his vest: the zipper was not staying up and he had to continually futz with it. We were in the front row and saw it clearly. Wise move to remove it.
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
God intervened.
after Valieva’s FS the look she gave made it feel like she was at angry at the viewer or like the world, rather than her coaches or the ppl that did it to her
@adelinanikitina8241
Жыл бұрын
По какой причине ей злиться на тренеров? 😑
@user-bz6vg1pj7q
Жыл бұрын
У вас Валиева априоре виновата, у нас русских это не так, для нас это заговор ису против русских фигуристок.заговор против 15 летнего ребенка .стыдно господа из ису.
@Iwatchstuff1000
Жыл бұрын
@@user-bz6vg1pj7q the coaches are to blame for her doping not the ISU!
@mysticalmargaret6105
Жыл бұрын
@@user-bz6vg1pj7q 🐂 💩
@user-bz6vg1pj7q
Жыл бұрын
@@Iwatchstuff1000 этот препарат допингом можно назвать с большой натяжкой и он не влияет как таковой на результат.и вопрос был ли он в пробе б, темнят вада и ису, мое мнение, западу надоело что русские девочки катают лучше, вот и высосали из пальца допинг, обидели ребенка бесстыжие, лишь бы Россию прижать.
Talking about how some of the performances were a little technically lacking, I could hear Jenny in my head saying, "Leave your single toes at home, people."
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes!! And "turn your toe out!"
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Also - "she needs a hair piece!"
Does anyone know what countries are NOT blocked from watching ISU replay videos? Ty in advance 😊
@JKW102
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this helps but I set my VPN to India and it worked for me 😆
@charlottethompson6193
Жыл бұрын
I use Vancouver Canada.
@tranquilitytranquility1407
Жыл бұрын
Israel and Kenya worked well
@nvadqs
Жыл бұрын
Spain is not
@yvonnyh
Жыл бұрын
Singapore!
I actually liked Kao's Beauty and the Beast..I thought it played to his strengths..speed, jumps..BEAST-like..and masked his overall lack of finesse.I'm glad that they did not give him "The Black Swan"..clears throat.
The writing is on the wall with Levito's technique. It's so not happening in 3.5 years time.
@kerryperryman3025
Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. The jumps were painful to watch. Tara and Johnny were raving about her technique but the way she leans forward on the take off on some of those jumps is pretty concerning. Hope it works out though.
@yohanes2034
Жыл бұрын
@@kerryperryman3025 what did Tara and Johnny say about Isabeu's jumping techmique? I swear they will do anything to mislead viewers into thinking the US skaters are the best in everything.
@PeiwenTanbassoon821
Жыл бұрын
@@kerryperryman3025 the way Johnny was raving about her “speed” as she was coming into a stop for her jump 😬
@mysticalmargaret6105
Жыл бұрын
@@yohanes2034 Probably that's what the powers that be are saying to them as they're talking into their headphones.
@SM-gy5wv
Жыл бұрын
@@PeiwenTanbassoon821 lool delusional
After all the valieva announcements made by the RUSADA this week I just couldn't get myself to follow the russian revenge GP at all. The gaslighting and manipulation is just unbearable at times.
@especial0
Жыл бұрын
True, unfortunately they used a strategy of covering up the scandal. Its disgusting for many russian viewers as well. Hopefully, WADA and CAS will help to close up this case properly.
@yohanes2034
Жыл бұрын
Also not the Rusfed agenda to put Kamila on pedestal. The blatant overscoring, poor Sofia. I mean Sofia scores were surpressed so that Kamila still won regardless.
@mirror8889
Жыл бұрын
@@yohanes2034 да, я была в шоке, Софа сделала два 4 тулупа и триксель, гспд как это возможно. Гребанный цирк с судейством. Были опросы в больших телеграмм каналах, которые показали, что большинство считает, что это🤡
@mirror8889
Жыл бұрын
@@yohanes2034 да, я была в шоке, Софа сделала два 4 тулупа и триксель, гспд как это возможно. Гребанный цирк с судейством. Были опросы в больших телеграмм каналах, которые показали, что большинство считает, что это🤡
great ideas for promoting figure skating...eg. quad on quad.
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but Roman needs a new coach. I thought that last year too.
@jamiejoonks
Жыл бұрын
He needed a new coach 5 years ago…
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
He certainly needs to change his approach in some way.
@martypellow9908
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a sports psychologist would help? Easy for me to be an armchair quarterback
Take a shot everytime a queen says, "yass".
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
😂
The Stolbova-Morozov baby is named Platon. It has the same meaning as "Plato".
@janvdb9258
Жыл бұрын
So gross when pedophiles get to have kids
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Transitions translate as “chips” if that’s what Jonathan was thinking
Dave, I think it's a little bit ironic (and funny) that you say gray costumes don't really do anything for you, and yet your living room (or wherever you are filming) is entirely gray!! LOL!!!!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
I don't like the photo behind me but it was a moment in time. I don't love gray on the ice.
@keithh2028
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson Trust me, we all have those moments in time! LOL...Thanks for all you do Dave!!!
Jonathan: I think the crowd at Skate America reflected the fact that skating fans have been released from the oppression of the Russian influence on skating. For the past couple of years, we all bought into the Russian propaganda that good skating consists of ultra c elements. We forgot why we loved skating. Having been released from that oppression, we are free to enjoy skating without just focusing on jumps, jumps, jumps.
@estefaniacastillo1419
Жыл бұрын
Entonces el patinaje masculino es aburrido?
@anthonydolio8118
Жыл бұрын
@@estefaniacastillo1419 I don't understand how my comments have to do with men's figure skating being boring or not. My comments have to do with remembering that figure skating is also an art, and that, without the artistic aspect, is not worth anything. When the focus is solely on the technical, it becomes gymnastics on ice and loses its uniqueness, the speed, the glide, etc.
@SilenceHurtsMore
Жыл бұрын
and yet...look at what the judges gave Isabeau, she is like a russian skater 2.0
@anthonydolio8118
Жыл бұрын
@@SilenceHurtsMore Yes. Those inside figure skating reward the Russian style. In fact, they awarded Iteri Tiberidze the coach of the year award. But just because they do does not me I have to. I would arrest Tuberdize for child abuse.
@L.Spencer
Жыл бұрын
I've never heard the term ultra c before this week.
The C&B FD music is the music you would expect to be playing when you're getting ready to go into an isolation chamber, you know? One of those closed bath things that are completely in the dark?
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
Yes thank god for that opera browser
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
💯
I love that Walgreens water too lol
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
so good!!!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
Black Cherry and Cherry Lime are my favorites.
@stuckin2003
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson yup, black cherry all the way!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
@@stuckin2003 ❤️❤️
Love you two, But you are completely wrong about the Chock & Bates programs.. that Free program is Gorgeous and that one lift where she lifts her whole leg over his head to the other side, Oh my God simply beautiful... Chock and Bates have that Swagger and they will Win Worlds!!! Madison is Stunning!!
@TheSkatingLesson
Жыл бұрын
The USFS felt the programs were boring after the event. I agree that there were gorgeous moments.
@JoshuaFazeli
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson That’s because Evan is boring, and they need to choose music that isn’t so meta. He does way better with detail and character (something tangible) and not “ideas” and “feelings.” Next, I’m worried Madison is going to dress him in berets and clavicle revealing long shirts. 🫢
@strawberrylime33
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSkatingLesson does the usfsa actually go up to skaters and tell them the programs were lackluster? 🤣 lol that's awkward! Do they really do this? Will they convince chock/bates to switch?
@davidreign9247
Жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaFazeli Evan is not boring.. He’s Classic & Very Sexy! He looks at Madison like she’s an Angel. Love Him!
@JoshuaFazeli
Жыл бұрын
@@davidreign9247 Honey, to each our own. I enjoy Jungle Juice Platinum and you probably like a light Kim Crawford white wine spritzer.
Grand Prix Ruso ❤️💯
Thank you guys again for this. Ok I have to say - hardly any of Skate America was available on You Tube here in the UK - am I the only person who had this problem? I thought the ISU channel on here was going to have at least some of this on here?
@tranquilitytranquility1407
Жыл бұрын
That’s what VPN is for
@lindaallison5338
Жыл бұрын
There must be a uk channel with the broadcast rights otherwise you would have got the live stream from ISU KZread
@yvonnyh
Жыл бұрын
Eurosport/Discovery+ covers it for the UK unless you use a VPN, but the country must be set to a country that doesnt have broadcasting rights so the ISU covers it. Try setting your VPN to singapore n it should come up on the ISU youtube
@robamell4216
Жыл бұрын
@@yvonnyh get a vpn. i use poland and had no problema
@kathryndegrande7179
Жыл бұрын
Yep! So frustrating that Eurosport holds the UK TV rights but airs literally anything else (like Northern Ireland snooker) instead 😁 Looks like they will broadcast Skate Canada next weekend on TV though.
Just gonna say it…. Deanna and Max should have got the gold
@SM-gy5wv
Жыл бұрын
they were robbed