Timestamps 0:12 Jonathan likes Dave's sweater; it reminds him of pottery 2:25 why Dave loves sectionals 8:38 sectionals scandal 13:30 migration to pairs 21:28 Knierim/Frazier 29:14 Mishina/Galliamov 33:49 Sonja Hilmer and who gets sent to competitions 38:25 Gracie Gold, how trauma affects competition 43:23 Roman Sadovsky 53:50 Deniss Vasiljevs, Daniel Grassl 58:05 Mai Miyahara, Isabeau Levito 1:04 ice dance 1:07 Russia!! 12:13 moment of the week

@nvadqs

Жыл бұрын

Thanks you!!!

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

We in the audience lost their minds when Deniss skated. We gave him a standing O twice, Stephane was crying and yelling in joy by the boards, we couldnt stop screaming, we were all jubilant and stunned!! Especially because his practices weren’t great

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic! It’s such a blessing to be there in person. So happy for you!

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

You could tell by the way he skated that he WANTED that placement and he was very deliberately making it happen.

I was at the grand prix in sheffield this weekend and I have to say, whilst probably being biased as it's the only competition I've been to, the atmosphere was probably the best of all the GPs so far! I think as an audience we were so grateful to just have a chance to access international figure skating in the UK, that we were here to appreciate everyone! Huge support for all the skaters, and reactions to Deniss, Mai and the home GB skaters was just incredible. The response for Lilah and Lewis was insane, I was sat just in front of Lewis' mum and dad in the stands and they looked near to tears at the reaction. I know there were some issues technically for those watching live, but the actual competition ran really smoothly and seemed to be such good feedback from skaters - I hope GB are given the opportunity for more grand prixs/competitions in the future!

@nastik4936

Жыл бұрын

💯 agree! The whole thing was one big moment, so grateful for the experience and glad to see the skaters fed off the energy.

@yokolondongirl

Жыл бұрын

Yes! I was there too! Everyone supported all skaters and really wanted to succeed this event and hopefully come back next year again!

@tallypea6193

Жыл бұрын

I was there too on Saturday it was also my first skating competition it was so intense and the crowd was amazing even tho it was small they’re was so much support for everyone

@Clara-hg1hd

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I was there too and the energy was amazing - I was so grateful to see ALL of the skaters. When you have watched skating on youtube for so many years, it is such a gift to be able to see the talent right in front of you. The uk has a very enthusiastic skating community right now - I really hope we have more competitions of this level in the future - but please god pick somewhere other than Sheffield!

@trylogic4084

Жыл бұрын

Well, I watched it on TV from the US, and you all were an amazing, amazing audience! It was a joy to watch and to see how well the skaters were all treated. Thank you so much!

I was right next to the kiss and cry during Deniss’s performance and as soon as that last jump was landed you could feel the crowd just waiting to jump out of their seats - it was so magical! Also: the fans really were great this weekend and the cameras really didn’t pick up how energized the building was. There were flags everywhere for every skater, and we didn’t just get excited for our own country’s skaters. I hope we get another one of these, or at least that the success of this event will lead to bigger crowds to other British skating events. I had a fabulous time.

@shelleyc853

Жыл бұрын

I believe Sheffield are getting ECs in 2024? Or maybe 2026 I can't remember (think the former). Likely(hoepfully) it will be in Sheffield Arena since there is more notice this time, as it was in 2012, and is a much larger and more suitable venue!

Young you said in her post skate interview that her dad passed away during the olympics. It was a rough off season for her while struggling with the loss & gaining the motivation to get back on the ice. She used the expression “burn out” and she is only 18😭. Young dedicated her gala program to her dad.

@ddjr6673

Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness I did not know that. That is so sad. Grief on that level. I remember Joannie Rochette went through that in 2010. Really hope Young You is doing ok.

@mamima4

Жыл бұрын

@@imagesstudio1936 please...are you serious? She revealed the news when she was ready. It's not an easy kind of thing when it's about the loss of someone so close to you.

@erikhai1

Жыл бұрын

@@imagesstudio1936 It's been mentioned before, it's actually rather well known.

@ddjr6673

Жыл бұрын

@@imagesstudio1936 Maybe she wanted some family privacy, publicity can be difficult to handle, especially during the Olympics? She is a very young woman and the Olympics, skating for your country, and dealing with loss, it is a lot. People deal with death and grief in their own way. Maybe now with the distance of a bit of time, she feels able to talk publicly?

My moment of the week: watching Mai win live in real time. Finally getting gold, and recognition from the judges. Her ChSq got the highest score I've seen yet. One of my favourite junior debuts last season, Sofia Muravieva, continues to set herself apart offering something special with an interesting FS program and taking the silver this weekend.

@janisartuso3991

Жыл бұрын

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@janisartuso3991

Жыл бұрын

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@vistaprime

Жыл бұрын

beautiful skating skills and well deserved. She is my favorite Japanese skater of the moment and overall has been on my list of favorites.

@erikhai1

Жыл бұрын

@@vistaprime Likewise, she has been on my list for years. She was actually my #1 this year already. I've been waiting for this since Universiade 2019.

I was in Sheffield, the crowd was small but so supportive and just happy to have a GP. Deniss was the absolute highlight for me. In contrast to Jonathan I love the SP (maybe because I am a Sting fan) but was not sure about the LP but gosh, did he sell it. Hopefully BIS can keep this GP!

Mai Mihara is my moment of the week and my moment of the entire season so far! 💜

Wow. I am loving your balance of respect and irreverence at the same time. The discussion about pairs was eye opening.

From watching Deniss skating his free live: at least 50% of the audience engagement and the energy he gave off actually came from… Lambiel at the boards! He was living through the program with Denis with SUCH PASSION, it was very contagious. He is the one who got the crowd going with his clapping and cheering. It’s almost an unfair advantage having him at the boards! :))

@BethH992

Жыл бұрын

Lambiel was all of us in that moment!! It must be so encouraging as a skater to get that kind of reaction from your coach!

Worthy of noting is that Young You competed sick, apparently she had fever and all, yet she performed that strongly in the free after "bombing" the short. Also no wonder she lost some of her jumps during off-season, she lost her father during the Olympics all of a sudden. She's been through a lot lately. But I really believe she will get her stride back soon, after all she's young (pun intended) and super talented with that 3A.

@TheFlowMind

Жыл бұрын

I really hoped she could get to the top of the podium this time. She deserved to get to the finals.

@lucy-tf7pz

Жыл бұрын

She needs some of Shevtsky's magic smelling salts!

@dominiquedominique6462

Жыл бұрын

Oh, that was sad to hear. I’m sure her time will come, she is a fighter. However, she should not have competed being ill. Health first!

Roman and Gracie are two that come to mind that are so frustrating. They have the technique,, quality of skating skills, and everything they need to be at the top. What you said about the mental side, you hit the nail on the head.

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

Sports is like 85 percent mental strength. Have to believe it to be it and then run through like mad

@alexandraantonovitch428

Жыл бұрын

Mikhail Kolyda as well

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

It is sad when you have all the obvious talent but still have so much self-doubt. I cannot imagine what is going through their minds but what's the point of working so hard when you cheat yourself when it matters.

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

He is the most frustrating for me since Sasha Cohen...my heart rate just went up thinking of them both lol

@susanlange5003

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of Roman’s confidence was sapped when he was growing so fast he grew out of his boots in one month and lost his jumps. When he was small he was supposed to be a phenom. That must mess with your head! We see Stephen Gogolev going through it but he’s not competed much. Roman kept competing through it and maybe it traumatized him. 😢

I think you are spot on about Roman. I get the feeling that every time he messes up, he sees it more as "Oops, that one got away from me, darn, sometimes the cards go your way and sometimes they don't" as opposed to acknowledging that there's an actual psychological issue to address because this is a pattern.

@morganrye7166

Жыл бұрын

i think he needs to train somewhere he isn't the best skater. and try a different coach for a bit.

@FigureNastics

Жыл бұрын

@@morganrye7166 Yes, he needs a totally different environment where he is held to account for making mistakes during practice run throughs. He really could be a top 5 guy if he could put it all together as he has some of the best skating skills and spins!

Watching GP Sheffield live, you could really see which skaters had that special quality - the elegance, speed, precision and performance ability. I gotta say Deniss brought it to that stadium this weekend - he was incredible! I was utterly baffled that Daniel placed above him, because to be frank, his skating looked soo unrefined and ugly. His jumps are so wild it’s scary - I don’t know how he lands them? He just isn’t a champion and the audience knew it.

Liza and Mai winning gold is my moment of the week

As an italian this week was amazing, I‘m so proud😊

@ddjr6673

Жыл бұрын

As a British person real congratulations 🎉 to you - I have to agree with you - I love Lila and Lewis but Charlene and Marco have quality technique (not sure I love the FD but I appreciate it) and I LOVE Barbara! Daniel, he is only 20 still, and I can see he is working hard to improve. And you have a lovely pairs team too. Ok I am a bit jealous (in a good way!).

Gotta say this season I've really gotten into the ice dance intrigue. It's all so fun to follow with marie france and her crew vs Barbara with hers (they're really going all hot topic this season, those italians)...with marina playing spoiler of course. I really enjoyed the Czech team, so much speed and attack.

@robamell4216

Жыл бұрын

an exciting night. also am following oona and gage brown... i think they have alot of potenziale but is time for them to head toMontreal for better choreography and packaging

@ddjr6673

Жыл бұрын

@@robamell4216 I really agree - love Oona and Gage - move to Montreal not just for programs and packaging but politics too!

@quintupleaxel

Жыл бұрын

A lot of the "intrigue" and politics is just fans making up stories.

You joke about the Cha Cha Slide, but it was a great moment seeing an arena full of Brits all recognising That Song From Every School Disco and Birthday Party at the same time 😂😂

It would be interesting to hear the Korean and Japanese perspective on country swapping. It is only a North American and European thing to game the system. If Asian skaters can’t draw on international family roots like NA or Euro why not allow them some flexibility to choose other federations. Let them skate for Australia or Singapore, etc if they have some loose ties to those countries (lived in Brazil for a semester as a foreign exchange student. Just something). The way it is set up now is culturally unfair to Asian athletes.

@ddjr6673

Жыл бұрын

I SO want the Asian singles skaters to skate for the UK!! Or some of the Russians! Please 🙏??!

because Roman has such a wide fanbase, I think it adds to his pressure even more. I feel like he felt like he had to put out that video because he wanted to reassure his fans that he was okay, even if he wasnt

Compare the (non) reaction of Tracey Wainman and Roman in (every) kiss & cry with that of Stephane Lambiel, who absolutely lambasted Deniss at Skate Canada. He was still chastising him when the next skater came out. Then we got Deniss' performance at Sheffield. Just saying.

@youarestronger

Жыл бұрын

Tracey went through hell as the new "it girl" in Canada. She may have a more cautious approach as a result of her own experience. Just a pity to see Roman struggling.

@simtopia2334

Жыл бұрын

I like Tracey's positive vibes, but i wonder how much they train those backup plans, cause you should have one in case the first elements go wrong. He needs to work on his 3-3 more, cause he always lands the 3t on a stand still position, sometimes it's under, there should be more speed and running edge coming out.

@wanderlustxhours

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, clearly one method is working over the other

@morganrye7166

Жыл бұрын

shoma had the same problem with the japanese coach he had. everytime he messed up she would just laugh like it didn't matter. yeah a pattern is not a good thing here.

@sallypraskey4468

Жыл бұрын

@@morganrye7166 Yes, and I've seen Stephane criticise Shoma too. It worked for him too!

Deniss & Mai- when he got a long waited medal at Euros last Jan, and then a week later, Mai has won the whole competition just after coming back and I saw it all live, I thought "it's only once in a lifetime that I got so lucky!" and then, I was in Sheffield for the last 3 days and witnessed this again...😍😍 No words can describe what I'm feeling 😭❤

@dinifroggy

Жыл бұрын

Oh, you're so lucky!

@mamima4

Жыл бұрын

@@dinifroggy I know ❤ It's nearly the next stage of the GP but emotionally I'm still in Sheffield 🤩

In defense of Young You, her father passed away while she was at the Olympics (her exhibition at this event was dedicated to him). She recently mentioned that it has been hard to motivate herself to get back into competing while she is going through the process of grieving but that she's getting there. And I think the reason, she didn't "present" as well as she normally does in the FP was because she had a high fever (even considered withdrawing because of it) so she was very focused on getting through the jumps. On a sidenote: Sonja Hilmer actually just confirmed on her Instagram that she will be at Nationals 😊

loved the British audience, but the video quality was worse than 2006 olympics? one camera angle and the overall hazy quality was kind of a shocker at a grand prix event

@DSQueenie

Жыл бұрын

The rink had multiple cameras but obviously something in the back end was wrong. They mostly fixed it by Sunday morning.

Matteo Guarise and the new partner will be at Warsaw Cup this weekend, which I´m attending. Can´t wait!

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

I hope they pick different material than in the past. I often couldn't warm up to his and Nicole's programs.

I was never a Grassl fan and then I met him in person at Skate America and off the ice he’s a charmer. He needs better on ice packaging ASAP.

@ddjr6673

Жыл бұрын

I think he is really trying hard and is only 20. I hope he finds his ‘aesthetic’ and always good to know a skater is a great person

@simtopia2334

Жыл бұрын

The coaching change this season is working in that sense i think, we should see the improvements over the years.

@L.Spencer

Жыл бұрын

I always feel like I'm watching him skate in his pajamas.

@morganrye7166

Жыл бұрын

i'm sure he is a nice guy but he has the ugliest jumps and worst technique on the circuit.

I wonder if the USFS wishes they would have done more to keep Deanna.

I was at the event in person (I was sat above a Lilah and Lewis sign that I didn’t make lol) and it was wonderful.

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

Lucky you! So glad you were able to be there!

Now that Pacific Coast sectionals is over, it’s official that Hilmer did make nationals!

I'm very excited by how Alexa and Brandon are looking even though it's very early for them. They're skating with more command and their programs are great and beautifully constructed, and they're scoring very well with mistakes. Their short program was awesome here, very striking. Lots of potential once they have more time to train. People are hoping her husband will turn down that job.

Daniel Grassl and Mai Mihara have been the victims of the russian judging for many years, placing whoever they had available in front (like Daniel lost to Morisi 2-3 times in the past, come on), so nice to see them at the top finally.

@evanperilstein5308

Жыл бұрын

Mai, yes. Daniel, no. His skating has a lot of deficiencies.

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Yeah, if anything, I still think he's pretty overscored. 81 in PCS for example? No way.

@SilenceHurtsMore

Жыл бұрын

Daniel Grassl no, both him and Morisi are overscored in skating skills! Daniel is just a bit more consistent with jumps.

@morganrye7166

Жыл бұрын

mai yes yes yes.............daniel is overscored so badly it is hard to put he and the scores together.

Thanks guys another fantastic episode - catching up on skating I missed because of work. As a Brit really wanted to get up to Sheffield (from London) but couldn’t- I thought the crowd was so vocal and supportive - but that rink could do with renovating and what is it with the Grand Prix and bad camera angles this year?

FYI. Sonja Hilmer did qualify for Nationals this year. They took the next two best scores, after the top two at Sectionals. Those scores were: 1) Lindsay Wang - 163 2) Sonja Hilmer - 157 😝

Regarding Roman, I find Skate Canada doesn’t support single skaters well. Maybe it’s the coaches, because Ice Dancers and Pairs seem to do well. There’s a huge amount of pressure to be perfect and it got in the way for Kurt Browning (his apology at in Lillehammer) Elvis Stoyko, Patrick Chan (the haunted look he had in Sochi!), Gabby Daleman… All getting in their own heads. I think it’s a broader problem. They seem to have the whole nation expecting perfection as a cultural identity. I loved what Ravi Wallia did with Kaetlyn Osmond. Liz Manning won silver in Calgary with support from a sports psychologist.

@ColonelGreen

Жыл бұрын

What exactly is the basis for the idea that Canada has some unique pressure to be clean performers? That's the case in every country and for every athlete who has aspirations to medal. Obviously Chan looked haunted in Sochi, he realized he had just blown his chance at being an Olympic champion. Roman's issues are his own, not something the federation is responsible for.

Sectionals was always intense for me great memories though but the “no practice” between SP and FS never made sense since like you said one extra hour won’t make you learn a new jump for the free skate. 😅

Am I the only one who doesnt get the hype abt Fear & Gibson? Their packaging is a little too out there & Lilah makes Madison Chock look like the Queen of deep edges in comparison.

Jonathan’s living room is no disappointment to what I imagined 😊.

I agree that Deniss deserved more...

I have a question relating to your interesting topic of different attitudes to (stupid) rules. The beginning of Mai's SP music was not audible for a couple of seconds and she had to start with a later note, resulting in a loss of bonus for her combination jump in the second half of the program. I guess it was due to a technical issue/ human error at the venue rather than a careless music cut by Mai's team, as she has had several domestic competitions while the GP had at least two other noticeable incidents with music (Free Dance and Women Medal Ceremony). She accepted with a good grace that these things do happen despite a very tight point difference with Isabeau. Would/ Could you appeal under such circumstance?

appreciate the therapy talk and addressing that from a heartfelt place

Daniel needs a glowup if he’a going to be at the top. Better styling and a haircut to make him look more mature and make his kind of wild technique look a little more purposeful and put together. Side note: Italy has a great mens field right now.

I think Roman used to be more “here is my positive take” in the past vlogs which was a bit baffling. I mean after the Olympics, I expected a very devastating vlog, but that didn’t happen. He has definitely a self-esteem defense mechanism that sort of helps him go on but does nothing in the long run to improve things. Hope this is a turning point since he seems very empty and a bit more honest. I think it's really the time to hire a mental coach or sport psychologists or he's never getting out of this. Btw is mental that thee is no sport psychologist hired by the team to help with these issues. On Daniel Grassl's side, he knows exactly who he is and what he needs to change. He said in multiple interviews that he needs to work on his skating skills and change the way he moves. His main good qualities are consistency are stability, but when I look at Matteo or Roman I see skaters of completely different quality. He definitely knows that and he's trying his best to change. Not sure this current setup is actually working for him since I saw him much less stable than last season.

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this comment - it's good to know that Daniel knows what he needs to work on. I don't dislike him as a person and I don't wish him ill as a skater, but I want him to stop being overscored. And agreed - Matteo is light years better than he is. Also completely agree about Roman.

I have to say Peacock did not let me do a replay. But at Skate America did have a replay but other Grand Prix does not

@iamsoverybored878

Жыл бұрын

I don't get why I can see last weeks gymnastics world championship on KZread thanks to the BBC but I can't watch the Grand Prix. I like BBC coverage alot more then NBC yes they gush over their countries gymnast but they also show alot more routines and alot less ads. Also the commentators are better.

Roman needs to be coached by Elvis Stojko. He needs someone who will boost his mental toughness every day. I always thought Patrick Chan could have been helped by Elvis too. Roman always posts self-deprecating videos after tough skates. Kid needs to take a KZread break maybe.

Hey Dave, love your thoughts on the pair discipline and their issues! What do you think Meagan would have to say about that? Another great This and That, loved it!

I also don’t know why Sofia Akatieva is attempting so many “ultra c” elements when she clearly can’t do them reliably right now. Of course, it’s Eteri’s group, so there you go. But honestly, try the 3A once in the long & don’t go for the quads until they are more stable. Just asking for injury. All of the “ultra c” in the long should have been downgraded if scored correctly. Of course, the Eteri bonus was what was keeping her on the podium with 3 falls…

You are a genius Dave!!! They should just put you in charge of the ISU or maybe reach out to the Korean prez...save the sport

Thank you.

If I’m Canada it’s crisis talk time for Roman.

A lot of people seem to baby Roman. He needs a wake up call.

Daniel grassal's FP costume reminds me of the huntsman in Snow White (the fairytale itself not the movie). Pls tell me im not the only one who sees it LOL

@TheFlowMind

Жыл бұрын

I bought the same shirt in 2004 at the market. He needs to burn it!

@L.Spencer

Жыл бұрын

He reminds me of Spike in Notting Hill, played by Rhys Ifans. He seems like a really nice person, so I don't want to be mean. I can't wait to see him keep improving.

I am on love with Gubanova’s short program this year. Her and the music are made for each other.

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt she was really underscored. That program was magic.

Thanks for your great post-competition thoughts, I really look forward to them. I watched on Peacock so did not get to hear the commentary by Mark H. Where do I go to get that going forward? Thanks!

@My-hat

Жыл бұрын

ISU channel on KZread. You have to be in certain countries so not geo blocked. I choose Spain via a VPN.

dying at Sadovsky's "red wave". lmaooooo

Dave should be in Jonathan’s room!

@iamsoverybored878

Жыл бұрын

Just noticed there tops match their decor

I also wish Luca Luccaroni and Rebecca would also do ice skating. They are amazing

„Adelina Sotnikova!!” Im dead 😳😃

People often say Roman has a consistent 3S but I haven’t seen it.

A great night for ice dancing. I also follow Oona and Gage Brown...i think they have alot of potential ...but to grow..is time for them to go to Montreal for better choreography and better "packaging". anyone have any thoughts about this?

@ColonelGreen

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I don't think the Browns could afford to go to IAM.

@morganrye7166

Жыл бұрын

actually i would rather see them in ontario where scott moir is coaching with maddie. montreal is overcrowded.

@quintupleaxel

Жыл бұрын

So the can blend in with everyone else?

Listening to this again after last night's premiere. 13:36 Gabby Izzo can skate with her boyfriend Spencer 17:22 This grand prix made me miss the Russian pairs the most, especially the drama between Tamara's team and the Eteri camp 20:01 Alexa and Brandon won by 20 points with several mistakes. It was not a deep field this weekend and the rest of the pairs event was so boring

@b.reamsnider1328

Жыл бұрын

Gabby is with Spencer!? 😯 I'm a day late.

Both in this video and in the last one I saw, Dave’s sweater matches Jonathan‘s zebra. 🦓🌚

@MrSalXXX

Жыл бұрын

Yes,indeed it does the zebra. I I think they always look great no matter what they're wearing they are just great simply great

Yes, send Ava Marie to Finland if Bradie isn't it up to it! I honestly think our Worlds team is going to be Isabeau, Amber, and Ava Marie.

I love pairs. Mishima and Galliamov and Tarasova and Morozov are my favorites. Both teams are skating so well in the Russian GP.

They made Sonja change her program??? Who in the right mind would do that???

@jmonz2625

Жыл бұрын

It’s typical USFS, the moment a talented woman shows some potential they try to package her like it’s 1998.

@PeiwenTanbassoon821

Жыл бұрын

@@jmonz2625 Also USFS: why doesn’t figure skating attract more audiences 🤔🤡

@ringdoorbell3223

Жыл бұрын

(Sharon) they are making it harder to watch figure skating, what with the copyright stuff and NBC etc.. I'm willing to pay monthly fee for Peacock premium (I don't have a TV) but if my schedule doesn't allow me to see it live when they show it, what's the use? I've been following skating for years and years and used to go to regional and sectional competitions in the Philadelphia area.

im really mad that Levito gets these scores !! WTF guys we have eyes!! pr alone wont work

@user-gg9uu9kx9w

Жыл бұрын

her skating and edge jumps are apparently very good live. just close your eyes for the toe jumps and she’s amazing

@lc4822

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gg9uu9kx9w she's also doing way more footwork throughout the program than almost everyone else.

@susanlange5003

Жыл бұрын

She seems slow live with small ice coverage. I’m baffled myself.

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

Two things I noticed live about her that I didn't see through the TV: one, her ice coverage is minimal, but two, she has a real special something that draws you in. In practice you wouldn't look twice at her, but then when the music comes on in front of the audience, she just exudes musicality and feeling. She's just got a natural gift. That being said, I do still think she's overscored. And I don't know why that lutz edge is not called? I haven't seen it in slo-mo but it always looks flat at best to me.

@hannahmaia6869

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gg9uu9kx9w i was there in sheffield, front row and honestly she was breathtaking. one of the most stunning performances i’ve ever seen

I'm sure I missed it somewhere along the way, but why is China not taking part in the grand prix this season? We really need them in the pairs field!

@BethH992

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure exactly, but I would guess it's for the same reason that the Cup of China didn't go ahead this season, which I believe is that China is currently dealing with another Covid surge

@quintupleaxel

Жыл бұрын

Not many spots for China- barely any Chinese competitors the past few years. No opportunity climb up the ranks and earn GP spots. No Chinese skaters at Worlds, so no seeded skaters either. All of the Chinese skaters who had spots (apart from the ice dancers) withdrew due to injury. I feel really bad for Peng/Jin as they could've dominated this season :(

Russian pair skaters are switching countries RN - I see for example that Alexander Korovin has a new partner and they will come here to competer for Philippines 😅

I love pairs it’s one of my favorites. I like pairs, Dance, Men and women.

If Isabeau lived in Russia they would have moved her to pairs at 12 or 13. I know in the US they won't move her to pairs, but this is a shame-with the right partner she would be competition for the Russian pairs (assuming they are ever allowed back).

@quintupleaxel

Жыл бұрын

She might not have the personality for Pairs. Pairs skaters also need strong jumping skills. Dance would make more sense if she was going into one of the partnered disciplines.

What did folks think of Carreira and Ponamarenko? I really enjoyed their free program.

@lc4822

Жыл бұрын

That first lift was amazing! I'm always rooting for them, she has such perfectly pointed feet all the time. I don't know anything about ice dance, but as always it seemed like the judges were not buying what they were selling.

@user-gg9uu9kx9w

Жыл бұрын

@@lc4822 it’s the highest international score they have achieved since 2019, it’s an amazing score for a team rusty with a late start and anthony not skating 100% yet

@lc4822

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gg9uu9kx9w could be, I don't know anything. But they weren't anywhere near lajoie and lagha, and I expected they would be.

@grisgris6908

Жыл бұрын

I thought they were packaged perfectly with that free, it really suited their skating. But their RD lacked a lot of sensuality for me

@mamima4

Жыл бұрын

I like them, they're so classy&and have great lines but for me they're not a balanced team. I see his personality on the ice when she is just like an invisible partner who's skating with Anthony. I've always had the same impression with Chock/Bates as an ice dance couple, but the other way round- it was 80% Madison and 20% of her partner who's doing the lifts.

In response to watching women who skate pairs Dave and Jonathan, I will watch Tai Babilonia any day. She will ALWAYS be remembered as a great skater and champion.

I'm so happy! Georgia got a historical medal at Gran Prix!!!

Mao and The Bells of Moscow 🔥 🔥 🔥

I need to say that I hope Chock and Bates are able to work through their issues with their programs, because there's a lot of competition right now that's doing very well. There could be a Worlds where they do not get a medal at all.

Do you know what does my head in with IJS pairs? In the other team discipline (dance) each competitor is judged individually in SyTw, OFT, steps etc. Why aren't pairs judged individually for jumps and solo spins (etc)? It seems to me that pairs are disproportionately downgraded when one has an error. OMG - I always wondered why Jenny didn't go into pairs, she would have been brilliant! Pairs Women are the bravest of all skaters on the ice.

Think partly w how quickly Roman posted a video was surprising like you guys said but he did decide not to do media straight after and so at least he gave it a few hours to process before he made any public comments Also I think skaters wouldn’t want their public perception to be bad for being negative about a bad skate

Does anyone know how I can watch the ladies free skate? I didn’t want to wake up at 5:15 am 🤣

I disagree with Jonathan that Roman has good jump technique and a consistent 4S. He’s a chronic underrotator. He’s lucky they only gave him a q for that second 4S. That was a generous call.

Roman needs to decide if he actually wants to win because the status quo of not even trying to do better is just wasting everyone’s time (judges, coaches, etc). I actually turned the competition off before Roman’s free because I was that confident the podium had already been decided. If he actually wants to win, he needs to get psychological help & change coaches. He needs coaches that aren’t enablers of this, someone who will hold him accountable & help him get it together. He also needs to stop vlogging for awhile. If he doesn’t want to actually try, make skating a hobby & do something else with his life.

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

I agree; I've always felt that his media presence was more important to him than actually doing well in competitions. I felt that somewhat about Gabby Daleman and Amber Glenn for awhile too, but I think both of those two have started to focus more on the skating now.

@pw6517

Жыл бұрын

that's funny

No mention of the Georgian pairs guy with the dark floppy hair? He was A LOT! I think in the short especially. Verry dramatic 😅. One to watch for the energy he gives off

I hate Alexa's and Brandon's music cut in the free, which is so disappointing for me because I love them and I love that song and was so looking forward to loving this program. But it's boring in the middle and that ending is ridiculous - like someone just hit "stop" on a tape player. (Sounds like a Basic Skills competition program from the 90s and early 2000s before music editing software was mainstream.) The actual ending of the song is so powerful, with those slower lighter notes...I so wish they would use that.

1:03:09 Jonathan 🤣 I’m sorry that was funny

The "My Sweet and Tender Beast" waltz piece on it's own is music I quite like, it works well enough for a SP anyway. But the version with the singer Isabeau is using, and Maddie Schizas used last year I find completely awful! Especially for a FS!!!

Roman needs new coaching. He needs to focus less on the videos and more on mental strength.

Danny O'Shea is a really good pair skater, right? What is he doing with these 15 and 16 year old girls? I feel like it's almost an insult to him or something. Whatever happened to Jessica Calalang? I thought it was Brian that wanted to stop skating.

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

The age gap is really no big deal. He’s very, very lucky to have found a partner this late in his career who he “clicks” with. And, she’s very, very lucky to be able to skate with him! Win-win! Also,his partner will be 18 in December, not15 or 16. It’s close to impossible to find “older” pairs women who are also a good match both in physical ability and temperament. Deanna Stellato is truly one in hundreds of millions. Jessica Calalang is wonderful, but perhaps she and Danny are not good match for each other. We are dealing with people, not machines. It’s a delicate process.

You didn't mention Bradie.

@createchaosgossip

Жыл бұрын

I think her free skate could be very good! Hoping she stays healthy.

But Daniel Grassl’s PCS in the short program was almost as good as Deniss’? ?

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's consistently overmarked in PCS. For example at Skate America he was just a couple points under Matteo Rizzo in PCS yet their skating skills are night and day.

I don't think any womens singles skater who under rotates (most of them) can excel in pairs. Pairs is a whole nother beast, with core strength, shoulder strength, daring, and a little bit of craziness (to tolerate being lifted above the guys head and thrown a cough length) needed.

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

You are so right! It takes a certain type of personality and resiliency to skate pairs! It’s so dangerous. You must have mutual trust and respect with your partner and coaches. Also, the woman has to be okay with being touched all over her body all of the time. That’s too much for some people.

My moment of the week is Kagapol (Kaganovskaya and Angelopol) winning their first dance competition in Russia. What a promising dance couple. They are trending on TikTok now

I do not get the love for Fear/Gibson....

@Rachel-rs7jn

Жыл бұрын

They are definitely the judges' darlings. I like them, but they got like 9 GOE points (on top of the BV less than 2) on one of their character step sequences. That was pretty ridiculous.

@oliviarose1313

Жыл бұрын

@@Rachel-rs7jn there programs are better suited for exhibition. Compared to the music in their free, I feel they move slow on that program. Overall I just don’t like them.

Unbelievably shitty and mean comments about Roman. He had a really shitty day, decided not to let it crush him to pieces, and gets criticised for not crying and being totally depressed. I think that maybe some other people need some counselling here🙄

@DSQueenie

Жыл бұрын

People aren’t disappointed because he’d not “depressed” but it is concerning that this keeps happening and his reaction doesn’t seem to acknowledge the severity of the issue.

Wait, WHAAT? That's the dumbest rule I've ever heard! It should be up to the skater and coaches to do an extra practice at a nearby rink if they'd like! Like you said, it won't change anything at that point, but some skaters might need an extra practice to loosen up, but it might be worse for others, so it should be up to the coach and skater. It isn't like it wouldn't be open to all to practice at another rink who want to. 🤷‍♀️ Is this a new rule? What about those American Olympic skaters at Sochi and PyeongChang who trained in other countries?

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

The rule is in place at USA sectionals and nationals for good reason. (It doesn’t apply at international competitions like the Olympics.) Most of the time when there is a big USA competition in town, there is not enough nearby, affordable ice time at other rinks for all of the competitors to get equal access. At USA sectionals and nationals, there are seniors, juniors, novice, juvenile all competing at same event. That’s a ton of skaters! Also, it becomes about who has the money to pay for ice time or who has connections at a rink they don’t belong to. The money thing favors the wealthier skaters. The connections thing can strongly favor the athletes from the host area.

@etherealtb6021

Жыл бұрын

@@SunflowerCat333 Ah, I see. Good points. But international competitors can do what they want, even with the same issues (connections, lack of wealth)?

@lweissen

Жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 it’s also been written in the rule book for years. This is nothing new

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

@@etherealtb6021 I think there are still practice restrictions once the skater’s actual event starts for international and Olympic competitions. But, I don’t know the details.

The practice rink rule is stupid and didn't exist in my day-Organizers want skaters to attend only "Official" practices where the judges for the event can sit and 'prejudge' the skaters. In my day many of us would avoid the "cattle call" and arrange practice time at another, nearby rink. (Thereby also avoiding the circus atmosphere of the venue).

Russian girls that would nearly guaranteed get a medal at ISU events: Valieva, Akatieva, Zinina, Petrosian, Samodelkina, Trusova, Yametova, Sinitsyna, Tuktamysheva, Muravieva (that's 10; definitely enough to get at least gold and silver at all the ISU GPs), plus a bunch of injured skaters that'll hopefully be fully restored next season: Shcherbakova, Usacheva, Khromykh, Kostornaia... Akatievas worst skate of her life yesterday with 3 falls would still be gold at ISU GPs without Kaori I guess. Sending just 2-3 of them to each stage of the Russian GP and filling the slots with placeholder no-names feels just like ISU events as well (and is nearly as dull with a very clear top 3). And no country (not even Russia) has the amount of pairs and dancers required to create a competitive GP series on their own (some events have just 3 starting pairs, so everyone gets a medal? yay). The men are at least so inconsistent that it's competitive by default, some days you get Peturu Gumenyu, other times it's the floor camera.

@margaritadanova4764

Жыл бұрын

His name is Petr or Pyotr Gumennik. Not Gumenyu. Please do show some respect to this good lad :-/

Hey guys, I would really appreciate it if you'd pronounce the (especially longer Russian names) more slowly and clearly for us doofuses who aren't familiar with all of them. Thanks😁!

Wow the Russian Grand Prix in Moscow was just amazing. Petr Gumenik, Ilya Yablokov lost a lot of weight and could jump quads again. Alone this event was better then any then any European Championships. In all Categories Pairs Dance Men and Ladies.

@user-gg9uu9kx9w

Жыл бұрын

did we watch the same event

@naailtariq5930

Жыл бұрын

@@user-gg9uu9kx9w I think they're being sarcastic

@SunflowerCat333

Жыл бұрын

Was so nice to see Petr Gumennik perform closer to his potential! So happy for him. He’s grown a lot taller, so I assume he’s had to make a lot of adjustments.

I knew that they were going to under score Isabeau. What a shame . Also a lot of the programs look almost as if the skaters are marking. Where’s the excitement…….the attack.

@almourie

Жыл бұрын

underscore her in what? all non jumping elements get very good goe and her pcs are very good for a new senior (granted she deserves the geo on spins and step/choreo seq). her jumps are really hard to watch and are not textbook at all. genuinely wonder where you thought she was under scored?

@lloydculbreath8105

Жыл бұрын

@@almourie I’ve always liked Mihara. But in regards to musical interpretation, expression, character and beauty of line and position their scores should not have been even close. But hey……that’s just my opinion as a former professional dancer & choreographer.

@floskate

Жыл бұрын

Watching them back to back live, Mai skated so much faster and covered waaay more ice. She goes into her jumps with incredible speed and her flow out was unrivalled here. Isabeau also skated fantastically but she slows down so much into the jumps and is much slower overall. In person, Mai really did sell the heck out of the programme as well and the crowd went crazy for her with some in tears!

And that girl with the balloons on her costume. What the heck…… that program is abusive. The skater deserves better. So does the audience. It’s so corny and juvenile

@etherealtb6021

Жыл бұрын

But it is a nice change from the depressing programs, isn't it?

@letitiakearney2423

Жыл бұрын

The girl brought the fun to the competition and the audience loved her. She is polish and started off with Brian Orser and that was her true personality from way back then.

@etherealtb6021

Жыл бұрын

@@letitiakearney2423 Yes, that seems to be her personality - bubbly!

@TheFlowMind

Жыл бұрын

Ekaterina always does bubbly-happy sort of Disney programs.

@suzannefraser4966

Жыл бұрын

It is because the music I’d from the movie “Up” apparently

I'm still laughing from the Roman fiasco 🤣😂🤣😂

@sohlangan

Жыл бұрын

Pressure got into him. Hope he can manage it better next time

@iamsoverybored878

Жыл бұрын

@@sohlangan If Professional skating was still a thing I would recommend that he go Professional. It's alot less pressure. I could of seen him doing well if he was skating in the 80s and 90s.

Sadovsky should quit and get a day job. Does he get drunk before every free skate?

@skaterboy-cz9wj

Жыл бұрын

I agree he is a lost cause but ditto for GG. Roman has better skating skills though. GG is knd of a has been

@janvdb9258

Жыл бұрын

He works as a coach

@Person-mh6xq

Жыл бұрын

Well, aren’t you an armchair psychologist.

@skaterboy-cz9wj

Жыл бұрын

I should clarify I still do hope that Gracie and Roman get it together and you do wish an athlete does it on their own terms including retirement. But both of them have been at it for a while including Daleman. They don't intentionally struggle and crash and burn. Gracie has resources besides even co aching - I understand she has family support and opportunities because of her past as a top international skater. I fear Roman may end up like Nam Nguyen who showed more promise being I believe a world junior champion. Ironically the Canadian men really grow - their last three great hopes Roman, Nam and Gogo all grew exponentially. We aren't talking just a bit of puberty but their height/limbs grew to extraordinary proportions for single skaters. I am sure if they knew or had the magic wand they would "win". Mind you the competition is not the highest right now so both Roman and Gracie are relevant in their home country.

@susanlange5003

Жыл бұрын

He is literally one of my favorite skaters. When he gets it right, it’s so beautiful. That’s worth waiting for and your comments are crass. He needs help dealing with psychological pressure and he is not getting it. That’s all.