Now that I know Chloe secretly stole production notes, I love her even more.

@Trixiesongzxoxo

Жыл бұрын

Omg yesss same 😅

@CharismaticWritiholic

Жыл бұрын

So true

@elizabethhurley1129

24 күн бұрын

Chloe was always the best, but this definitely makes her more loveable. 💗

Also let’s not forget the time that the producers forced the moms to bring up Melissa’s divorce and why she wasn’t wearing her ring and she said “They’re doing this again!” probably referring to the producers and NOT the moms when she was on the phone with her attorney. this may be something the producers have had the moms do before because they know Melissa doesn’t like to talk about the whole “sleeping with her boss”

@Uflopped

Жыл бұрын

You don’t whether she slept with her boss

@laurelleaves

Жыл бұрын

That would make sense in context of Melissa showing up to the lunch with the moms completely okay with them tbh

@Julie86Mac

Жыл бұрын

Yes, she was referring to the producers and not the mom's. Melissa talked about it in a vid.

@EF-kk3vh

Жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh I never made that connection. That 100% must have been what she meant by “they’re doing it again”

@Julie86Mac

Жыл бұрын

@@EF-kk3vh yes

It’s crazy how Abby said “it was a toxic environment” but when Maddie said it, she was just trying to get attention 🤦🏽‍♀️. Did anyone see hear that lol

@jennaebradshaw1308

Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking this

@kellygal3036

Жыл бұрын

Abby is constantly contradicting herself and her standard for her own personal set of ‘morals’. (Such as saying not to swear in front of children, using ‘swings’ in numbers, having favorites, talking about other dance teachers behind their backs - just to name the first few off the top of my head

@ang4588

Жыл бұрын

Her hypocrisy knows no bounds… It’s also hilarious, because she actively left out the positive quotes that Maddie gave in that interview, and then twisted the others to gaslight her suffering and mistreatment 💀

@corimoon3360

Жыл бұрын

@@kellygal3036 Wanting kids to be homeschooled and then hating on homeschool later.

@eejaypea

Жыл бұрын

@@kellygal3036 Yep! She also sometimes says that the children should ask for what they want (eg. Maddie should ask for a solo when not given one), and sometimes that mothers should ask. Other times she says that they should all accept what she has given them. Nobody can know the expectations when they constantly change.

The bathroom thing is actually really sad. That must be so traumatic at 9-12 years old being LOCKED IN A BATHROOM with your friends and it was all just to upset your moms. CRAZY! these producers are child abusers period…

@imintears8976

Жыл бұрын

it's sad even just imagining it. the kids must've been so scared.

@breannaxoxo3850

Жыл бұрын

Paige made a joke on tiktok that it was so traumatizing she forgot the four years of her life

@ang4588

Жыл бұрын

@@breannaxoxo3850 Maddie and Chloe have both said they actually forgot mostly everything that happened (due to trauma). So Idk if Paige was joking, really.

@breannaxoxo3850

Жыл бұрын

@@ang4588 I’m sure it is true. Most of them don’t seem to remember their time being on the show

@wayydowneast

Жыл бұрын

It makes absolutely no sense… you lock the bathroom door from OUTSIDE of it? 👀 I don’t believe it.

It’s crazy that Abby recognizes it was a toxic environment for her… but not the girls?? The moms said ugly things to Abby so she turns around and insult their kids to their faces

@chichi3183

Жыл бұрын

It's because she was the reason the environment was toxic for the kids so she doesn't want to admit it

@ashbaybay

Жыл бұрын

because shes childish.

@bluesmiles5

Жыл бұрын

She slammed Maddie in a video for saying Dance Moms was toxic but yet thought it was toxic herself… so hypocritical

@areejobaid1425

Жыл бұрын

I think i recall her saying that it was toxic for her but not the kids because for her she was being forced whereas apparently the kids were not and could leave anytime? But idk

@Jennchannel24

Жыл бұрын

@@areejobaid1425 lol right like the kids where super little and forced by their moms and their love for dance it’s not fair for them. Like Chloe loved Paige and the girls and loved to dance that’s why she stayed.

The way the producer talks about Holly's triggers so flippantly is just inhuman...

@cmpvariety1764

Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one that noticed that whenever he was talking about that you could kind of hear him laughing a little bit like he was getting a kick out of the fact that he would trigger the moms etc? I don't know maybe I'm the only one that noticed that but if you listen to the clip, don't pay attention to the video listen to his voice. I swear I heard him laugh a little bit. I'm blind so I focus more on voices, can't see videos so I focus on the voice and his voice just doesn't sound right it's like he thinks it's hilarious almost. He's not laughing outright but you could hear it kind of as he's talking that he's kind of laughing about the whole situation. What a jerk.

@whims6278

Жыл бұрын

@@cmpvariety1764 yes! Serious POS

@Trixiesongzxoxo

Жыл бұрын

@@cmpvariety1764 yes! I've noticed that as well such an awful man...

@Kayla-jy6vh

4 ай бұрын

@@cmpvariety1764no no no you’re right , he would laugh as if it was hilarious

@cmpvariety1764

4 ай бұрын

@@Kayla-jy6vh I never meet this producer and light real life because if I do I'm probably going to call him what he is which is a piece of scum. I'm sorry, anyone that would sit there and think it's hilarious that he's making people mad, that's just scummy behavior. He just thought it was so hilarious. Here's the weird thing, he didn't even try to hide the laugh from his voice, I guess he wasn't counting on the fact that a blind person is going to hear this and realize that he's laughing at the fact that he made people upset. What a piece of scum that's all he is. I hope I never meet him in real life I really do because if I do I have a feeling that's what I'm going to be calling him.

I don’t understand how as an adult on the crew / production you can confidently and happily go get a meal knowing the kids you are filming being basically abused are left with the scraps or nothing. It’s so terrible to see how these girls were being treated by every adult around them.

@killjoy8372

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking exactly that, like these are grown adults watching kids starve how do you justify that to yourself 😩

@miakirilova7255

Жыл бұрын

Girls, who are dancing and need a lot of energy

@cherryblossom7120

Жыл бұрын

It's so easy that's why. Its always so easy to be the asshole to someone powerless.

@Trixiesongzxoxo

Жыл бұрын

@@cherryblossom7120 amen

@LuvvMxddie

Жыл бұрын

fr they were not even allowed to leave!

“Crew eats first” is a well-known film production practice, the cast always waits until all the crew have gone. But there’s supposed to be enough of the actual food for everyone, and production is supposed to respect child labor laws which Dance Moms clearly didn’t.

@oasistopia

Жыл бұрын

but they’re not in film production - they were little kids and were contractually obligated to be there

@mockingjay7720

Ай бұрын

What makes the crew feel so special that they have to eat first than everyone else?

My God the more I find out about this show the more I understand why the cast described it as a nightmare. Making the moms repeatedly interrupt rehearsal knowing they’d end up in a screaming match with Abby? Eating most of the food before the hungry children who had been working all day while elementary school-aged?? LOCKING SOBBING CHILDREN IN A BATHROOM WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS??? Maybe this is too strong a word but it feels psychotic. How did this exist on TV for so long

@ninairish763

Жыл бұрын

All tv is that way especially “reality” tv behind the scenes!

@kaye3728

Жыл бұрын

@@ninairish763 maybe…. but the countless situations these girls were put in was disgusting and cruel.

@abbysc417

Жыл бұрын

It GENUINELY seems like abuse! If a parent were keeping their kid from eating and locking them in a bathroom, they would be fairly accused of abuse.

@ninairish763

Жыл бұрын

@@kaye3728 I completely agree!! That’s my point with tv/Hollywood is once you sign a contract, they drop the nice act and will do anything to get more ratings. If you noticed with Kelly and her kids always being stressed out because they had no choice to come back because of the contract. The heartless producers played on it just to cause more drama to boost ratings.

@Mia_M

Жыл бұрын

Tbf, the general audience had no idea any of these things were happening. It was only later that a lot of things started to come out.

Abby: “It was such a toxic environment for me.” Me: “Babes, I think YOU had a role in creating that environment as well.”🤷🏻‍♀️

Jill trying to excuse her abuse towards brynn is quite funny. I understand now that the producers told her to go talk to Abby, but what she Said wasn't scriped at ALL. Holly has my respect for not going so low.

@kelsey2333

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and I'm sure jill thinks shes innocent and had no other choice. Jill and kendal dont seem like nice people at all

@laurelleaves

Жыл бұрын

She's a lot like Abby saying the show was toxic then being shocked and hurt Maddie said the same thing. It's only okay if you do it.

@noorin7336

Жыл бұрын

@@kelsey2333 yeah funnily enough, some other dancers have said that behind the scenes, kendall was lowkey mean and we all saw how jill never held back in insulting other kids 😭

@dreamgirl1652

Жыл бұрын

@@Jennchannel24 you do have a point bro and i agree with that. But i'm specifically talking about the part of the podcast where Holly says they done well by not badmouthing a child, and Jill agrees....🤡. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me the most.

@dreamgirl1652

Жыл бұрын

@@Jennchannel24 soo... Again, is the hypocrisy that bothers me...

It bothers me that Abby still to this day takes little jabs at the girls and their growth into independence often blaming it on them being teenagers and/or their parents which is when critical thinking really starts developing in people. I think they just saw through her excuses and double standards.

@cherryblossom7120

Жыл бұрын

@@Jennchannel24 I really really really hate that. And when you aren't allow to explain yourself or be heard, then that's when we start to rebel.

@lstarsabb

Жыл бұрын

Yes i saw her reaction to the first episode and she was caping for Maddie, but dissing the other girl and there parents. She was mad at Chole's first intro because she was acting her age. If she was like "looking back I do feel bad at how far I went with girls. I was so focus on getting them ready for the real world I couldn't see i was there first bully and i'm hate that" she would have gotten so much more respect, but she decided to stick to the script and it's sad.

@chunli1143

Жыл бұрын

right we could blame the producers before but now shes not on the show and still behaves the same which leads me to believe that shes just a bad person 💀

The audacity Abby saying they were mean and called her names. The amount of things she called Chloe, Paige, Jojo, Kenzie and that girl about her ears… and Ava about her height. I can’t

@cherryblossom7120

Жыл бұрын

Or worse like what she said about nia's hair.

@andreamovi6780

Жыл бұрын

@@cherryblossom7120 oh absolutely don’t even get me started on how Abby was a racist ignorant stuck in the 1920’s

@hau_any

Жыл бұрын

She even talk bad about Maddie tooth's Imagine to the girls she claim not to like 😢

Love how Abby admitted it was a toxic environment, but when Maddie said it, it wasn't true.

@kaye3728

7 ай бұрын

EXACTLY! how is she going to get mad when she said the same thing??

The bathroom thing was so sad to hear I can’t imagine how traumatised the girls were 💔

the idea that the producers knew what made them mad is 100% proven if you just watch as the seasons go on. in the first couple of episodes, they didnt fight or yell a lot. but as the seasons continue, the producers learn more about the moms, and the fighting was way worse and way more often.

It’s not just about Holly having a PhD in education though. It’s because she and Nia are some of the only Black representation this show has. It is gross and prejudicial to paint a black mother as someone not prioritizing education for their child when you literally have MELISSA openly pulling her kids out of school to WORK more. Holly, as a black mother, does not deserve to be painted in a light that perpetuates stereotypes and possibly put her in a position of danger. And it’s such typical white male producers to say “oh it just bothers her because she’s a highly educated individual” - NO, it is SO much more than that when you are dealing with a Black mother and child. Holly and her education has almost nothing to do with how wrong it is to push a narrative that she doesn’t prioritize her kids education. Again, this is especially gross when you remember how open and proud Melissa was of taking away the time her kids spent in school just so they could train and work more in dance.

@peachbellini106

Жыл бұрын

It has nothing to do with her being black…….

@peachbellini106

Жыл бұрын

Also, talk all the shit about Melissa- but her kids are successful unlike Nia.

@tayaboyles1433

Жыл бұрын

@@peachbellini106 let me guess.. you’re white

@starfallow8607

Жыл бұрын

@@peachbellini106 I will not argue with the ignorant. As a white woman in America, I am highly aware of how racism has been fabricated into the DNA of this country. Black mothers are 100x more scrutinized for the choices that white mothers are praised for. Black mothers are laughed at, put down, persecuted, and dehumanized more than any white mother in this country. Regardless of her educational qualifications, Holly, as a person, does not deserve that treatment. Regardless of how you *feel* facts are facts, and years of history, legislation, economics, and sociology will show you how differently black mothers are viewed and treated when compared to their white counterparts. You can praise Melissa all you want, but you are not going to sit here in these comments and try to erase the racism that is present both on this show and in this world. It is unsafe for a black mother to be painted that way. It could mean DFS investigations; it could mean her career could be on the line, and it could put her literal safety on the line because whether you want to face it or not, racism is still deadly in this country. Then people like you come here and praise Melissa for taking away her child's access to education to work more - as a CHILD. All for what? Fame? “Success???” she was a child that should have been in school. Her mother prioritized making her child famous over learning. That's not on Maddie. That is on Melissa. It wasn't in good faith. It was in selfishness and wanting to make her kid a star. And because I am sure you are the kind of person who needs things spelled out for them - so many things are more important than stardom. She could have worked professionally after high school. Many professionals do. I know because I grew up dancing with many girls who did this after high school. It isn't a sacrifice Melissa HAD to make.

@taviaaa5848

Жыл бұрын

@@peachbellini106 Girl bye I literally haven't heard maddie or Mackenzie's name since the show ended 💀

The part about the kids being locked up in the bathroom had me boiling. These producers are disgusting ASF.

@ninairish763

Жыл бұрын

They are sadistic and would do anything for ratings or drama

@maplemaple626

Жыл бұрын

@@ninairish763 Agreed.

@livheartsmatt

Жыл бұрын

hearing that made me so upset. they were locked in there, sobbing, and huddled around hugging each other to try to calm down? so cruel.

I agree that the producers tried to create conflict but I feel like Holly represented herself so well during all of that chaos and drama and made herself look very graceful despite what the producers were trying to do to her and her daughter. I feel like Holly didn't play into the drama as much as the other moms and I can't speak for them because I wasn't in their situation but it does come to show that somebody can rise above it. I have to say that Nia also did the same as well like mother like daughter.

@sashaking1115

Жыл бұрын

I agree!!!!!!!!! They did fabulous

@justagalwhocomments

Жыл бұрын

U go glen coco!

@jkmacrunnel

Жыл бұрын

Holly is very intelligent, and she knew that picking your battles is always the best way to go! The times she did lose her cool a bit or argued with Abby, I think were completely justified.

jill sayinf “never attack the kids” but then all the memories of her and jess harassing brynn ://

@virgo1986ful

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Jill and Jess bully Brynn

That may be an unpopular opinion but i love that we get 2 podcast about dance moms and get to know what really happened. It puts so much in to perspective

Has anyone else been living for the Christi and Kelly podcast? It's so good!

@prettypatrece

Жыл бұрын

Yes

The very day this aired, my dance friend and I watched it. I said “This is CA, isn’t it?” She responded “They are going to require years of therapy. I think some of them will develop PTSD.” We were correct and I hate it.

is it emotional manipulation? YES! And it is not just emotional manipulation, it is emotional ABUSE! They gaslighted the cast constantly like a bunch of narcs.

I'll still never forgive Jill. She was the most horrible cast member. Never accepted her own faults and went after Brynn for ridiculous reasons.

@Lee-my3zt

2 ай бұрын

totally agree with you!

Listening to Christi and Kelly’s podcast, I can see why she was upset about it all. I’m sure the stress of what was going on, plus whatever stress she was facing from weeks prior and whatever could happen in the future got to her. That solo week in season one was rough for Chloe and in turn Christi.

Has anyone else ever noticed a very distinct difference in Christi’s eyes in her scenes after Kelly left? Particularly the very end of season 4? There’s so much hurt and anger in them. And I’m not even talking about what happened at nationals. I mean just leading up to it you can see it. In retrospect, she clearly was ready to snap.

@yaitsares

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Christi was so different (understandably) after Kelly left.

@Mia_M

Жыл бұрын

oh it's because Abby ramped up her hatred of Christi and Chloe. She was actively trying to get rid of them and openly admitted in an interview to doing it.

@goeticfolklore

Жыл бұрын

Her contract with ALDC was over, she didn’t want to be there for the show. She was past her breaking point but contract made her stuck.

@chloeemary

Жыл бұрын

@@Mia_M yes!!! is this the interview where she mentioned she could say whatever she wants to either of them and they couldnt leave? That made me so sad, it's also just so evil imo

This is such an important video. So many times we forget how much of a role the production actual played. It is a variable that gets so over looked. They manipulated so much you can hardly tell what situation is real or not.

Jill: "...picking on our kids were fair game!" Jill being rude to Ashley and EVERY new mom that came after her, because she didn't wanted her sauseless kid to be replaced. Kendal was not an OG

@livheartsmatt

Жыл бұрын

“uh kalani’s not an OG, kendall is!” girl be fucking fr😭

@semereabraham5768

3 ай бұрын

@@livheartsmattwdym

Locking the kids in the bathroom away from their parents sounds like an actual crime to me.

Not even halfway through the video and Jill's hypocrisy is making me ill.

The moms also had to take a Psych Evaluation to get on the show. So the producers know everything about the mothers personalities and how to manipulate those personalities

@livheartsmatt

Жыл бұрын

so cruel. i really do feel bad for them.

Jill is the most hypocritical person ever, she said she didn’t like people talking about kids but yet bullied Brynn? 😒

Honestly produce just had a lot to do with conflict and label try to manipulate situations however there’s still a lot of things that both the moms and Abby did that are absolutely unacceptable and I feel so horrible for page that just because the producers lied to her mother about getting stoppers for her chair and then she was the one that had to be punished

The more I hear the more I'm completely blown away by the fact that these children were treated absolutely horribly by production as well as Abby. The kids absolutely deserved better than what they got - especially considering the amount of money they earned for Lifetime.

Paige does look like Marylin Monroe but she also looks like Anna Nicole Smith so the role she was given instead was also really good. Chloe made a good Marylin and I think Paige would have made a really good Marylin too. But I still liked the role Paige ended up having. She had two good options for her roles.

@Jennchannel24

Жыл бұрын

Also Chloe’s eyes really matched marylins because they where like lazy eyes both had them and Chloe looked amazing as Marylin.

@prettypatrece

Жыл бұрын

@@Jennchannel24 Chloe doesn’t have a lazy eye. She has a condition that makes one eye droop and seem smaller than the other.

@corimoon3360

Жыл бұрын

@@prettypatrece Yeah it’s technically not a lazy eye, it just looks like one so people often mistake it for a lazy eye.

@corimoon3360

Жыл бұрын

@@Jennchannel24 I get what you mean. Although Chloe didn’t have a lazy eye, it was some other condition but I still definitely get what you mean about their eyes.

@Jakaisisksksk

4 ай бұрын

@@prettypatreceit is a lazy eye dummy

The law prioritizing the well being of grown ass “unionized workers” over literal CHILDREN is so disgusting, these kids didn’t even get to eat!? While most likely burning 500+ extra calories a day from dancing alone, this is AWFUL🤬

So, even the infamous chair incident was caused by those producers (+ Abby for choosing to throw the damn thing).

OMGOODENSS Abby says "it was a very toxic environment" discussing producers and mother's BUT Maddie does an interview for Cosmopolitan and says the same thing.... Abby makes a video and 6 yrs later shows she's still delusional and lying to herself about how harsh and manipulative she was with the girls, all of them in different ways and the Mothers. She's thrown Melissa under the bus a few times to show dominance if Melissa was standing up for herself. It amazes me Abby was enabled so much. STILL IS!

I find it almost hilarious listening Jill and Melissa talkbabout how "horrible" the show was. Especially Jill! She absolutely loved being on the show, she was in a few episodes of a cheerleading show that her oldest daughter was a part of. I think it aired on Lifetime. Holly saying something about "she'd never say a child's name and talk badly about them" and Jill was like "I agree" Jill you literally was so mean to Brynn. Even if it is "scripted" Jill called her names and about her dancing abilities like Holly said she'd never do that so why did you Jill? Jill loved the limelight. I feel like Melissa did what she had to do. Meaning she became BFF'S with Abby constantly kissing her butt. Then once Melissa had no more use for Abby or the show she left. Maddie and Mckenzie were famous without the show. Especially Maddie she became way bigger then the show. Once Melissa had no more use for Abby and the show she was out of there.

@ang4588

Жыл бұрын

Melissa actively tried to leave throughout S3. That was before Maddie blew up with Sia. Abby didn’t make any of those girls famous, since she didn’t cast the show that gave them the platform. I wouldn’t really doubt she hated being on the show, especially since regardless of her being sneaky, she didn’t like confrontation, and producers were constantly trying to force her personal life/her kids’ home life, that they knew nothing about, out into the world.

@coolsomeash

Жыл бұрын

It bothered me how much of a kiss ass Jill and Melissa was. They'd both do anything to get their kids "special roles". Especially in s5 it really showed how much of a kiss ass Jill was

@kyliesmith7903

Жыл бұрын

@@coolsomeash yes. And their first season on I think it was season 2 Jill was constantly buying Abby gifts and always would talk about her "precious" little Kendall and throwing a fit about her not getting the lead or a solo. Lol

One of the things that ticks me off about the producers is their little show this not that policy for example in the latest episode of Christi and Kelly’s podcast they mention that Chloe and Paige ( my favorite friendship on the show by the way) had a little handshake that they did and of course we couldn’t see it but there is a clip of Paige getting a wort removed and Nia visiting her dying grandfather so we can see all that but no best friends handshake

"Do you think this emotional manipulation is a form of emotional manipulation?" Love your work, love your presentations, respect the engagement hustle. But the Q's at the end always make me laugh

These episodes are always absolutely eye opening! Cant wait to see what’s covered this new series.

The producers were so rude for no reason. :|

HOW SELFISH OF THE CREW MEMBERS TO EAT FIRST BEFORE THE POOR STARVING KIDS WHO IS TRAINING HALF OF THE DAY UNTIL MIDNIGHT!

i'm OBSESSED with this channel. thanks for another awesome video!!!

my jaw DROPPED throughout this! thank you for uploading! i always look forward to your videos ❤️

Not sure if this has been mentioned on your channel or if the moms have ever said this but i’m sure when kenzie did her all i wanna do is stay home and eat chips solo, producers must have told abby that the line was “all i wanna do is sit on the couch and eat chips” because there was genuinely zero reason for abby to go off on kenz like that unless there was producer manipulation

The producers did this because they knew that drama and toxicity was going to sell views and that was the point of it all from the get go, people get entertained by rage, anger, and all the negative emotions humans beings are capable of portraying.

This is the best dance moms content on all of KZread!!!!

I'm always binge-watching this channel!!! I'm so glad you cover these things, your series helps me realize so many things i never even considered while watching this show as a kid

Hey, could you maybe do a video on season 5, where Abby goes missing in action and then turns up at the competition looking rough? I always wondered what she was doing and how she got into such a state.

Video idea for Dance moms uncovered: You could talk about sound track issues happened in the show like the song skipping, the song stoping and stuff! I would love to see a video like this!

@livheartsmatt

Жыл бұрын

yes!

This channel is so underrated❤️

I get so happy when you post 😆✨💕

That bathroom story is terrible!!! Those poor kids

@virgo1986ful

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that

Literalky just binge watched all your videos. Really love your work!

too bad I wasn't on the crew. all the kids would defiantly get fed. at first it would look like I'm being a gluton but I'd take enough to hide and claim i'm done with the rest and then set what I set aside back out for the kids.

@JWParkerPhDDDiv

Жыл бұрын

totally emotional manipulation. I know several reality shows that were successful without this tactic.

@florayanes5144

Жыл бұрын

People without nutrition turn into something different. It's done on purpose. Snickers logo has it right: you're not you when you're hungry.

BB’s Julie called it micro-aggression about BB tonight. When production is in your ear and staging things, it is pure and simple manipulation.

@kellygal3036

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this to a great deal - micro aggressions are underlying statements of either hate or prejudice (or both, in most cases) and is unfortunately very common in manipulation especially in entertainment work places

Agree with everything except the "i just want to stay home and eat chips" line. That didn't portray her being lazy, it portrayed an adorable 6yr old. I laughed at that line so much

@user-kt1no7yx1u

Жыл бұрын

Agreed i loved that line if she was like 19 than sure lazy but no she's 6 and it was adorable

There’s also a fight that’s Ashlee against the moms of the irreplaceables and it’s not even edited out where the producers are telling her to respond to what they are yelling at her.

Love these videos :)

First!! Love your episodes 😁 Could you maybe do a video on nias I’ll do anything for you solo? I love that solo and I think it’s really underrated!

@kellygal3036

Жыл бұрын

I ALWAYS get chills and cry whenever I watch that solo of hers. Would love that too

Ooh so ready for season 4 🙏🙏🙏

i wish that as soon as they all realized what the producers were doing they could just “play along”. they could have all gotten together and talked and said hey, if they are going to make us do this or say that lets not take it personally and just play along like we are acting. that way anything that was said or done would just be an “act”. it sucks they went thru all that torture

jill was a hypocrite and so horrible

Cathy was the only one who was smart to see it as a show, and had fun taking whatever pleased the producers. Other moms took it too personally and actually though what took place in the show would affect their girls' dancing career.

As someone who works in production, the utter audacity to use “unionisation” against talent is an utter joke. liked don’t get me wrong, unionisation is great and painfully needed but to use it as an attack just undermines the whole concept, plus a lack of respect.

Damn this new information is really pissing me off. The producers eating before the kids is just terrible, and locking them in the bathroom like whatttt?

A Season 4? This is a pleasant surprise, and I'm sure you have enough topics for another 20-episode run. :-)

I can’t believe after everything being uncovered about behind the scenes, people still want a season 9😔

At this point this is one of my comfort youtube channels

11:36 i love this Chloe moment

@clareclark6535

Жыл бұрын

Me too

I wouldn’t of thought that about the chips line, I would’ve just thought it was McKenzie saying she just wants a normal life

Yes! My favorite series is back. #4yearsofdancemomsuncovered

Honestly when you really watch these videos you really do find out how much these mothers are nothing like they are portrayed to be on tv

@surgeon1016

Жыл бұрын

@Jason Mimosa no I disagree in real life these mothers actually seem reasonable and honestly from the sounds of it seems as though they are simply trying to look out for their kids

@surgeon1016

Жыл бұрын

@Jason Mimosa with regards to that I agree but I believe there was more to it a lot of them wanted put like Kelly for example but they couldn’t afford at the time all the legal fees that they would have been slammed with had they broken the contract it was the same with Christi she was meant to leave after that big fight in season one but she couldn’t because they couldn’t afford the legal costs of breaking the contract Abby knew this and used that to bully chloe

@AC-ir2mz

Жыл бұрын

@Jason Mimosa The show was only supposed to be a 1 season dance documentary but they ended up being tied down to a 6 year contract.

@surgeon1016

Жыл бұрын

@Jason Mimosa because when they signed it they were told that it was only going to be a three episode show at the time they didn’t apparently know what they were signing up for I think if they knew the true scope of what it meant to be apart of a reality show I imagined most of them would of had second thoughts about being on the show

@AC-ir2mz

Жыл бұрын

@Jason Mimosa The way the show turned out was not supposed to happen when they signed. You should do more research on the show before go talking on something you don’t know anything about.

The producers are so horrible

cannot express how im excited i am for dmu season 4

I FINALLY GOT A NOTIFICATION!!! uuuuuuhhhhhmmm *TWO WEEKS LATER* What the heck?! I guess for now I'll just be grateful I actually got it. LoL

I don’t know if you’ve already made a video about this (I’ll check after this) but I wanted to know if any of the auditions ( auditions for the team or auditions for candy apples etc) had more to what happened then shown. I noticed that when Payton was trying out for candy apples that another girl that was also at the first auditions of season 2 which made me wonder. Nice video!

Why aren’t the producers being held accountable or in jail? They were one of the main causes of all of these kids trauma and bad experiences.

@yaitsares

Жыл бұрын

they can’t lock up all reality tv producers lol cause it’s not just dance moms. technically, there isn’t direct physical abuse to the cast, so there’s nothing they would be in jail for. and they’re not gonna get held accountable because again, that’s what reality tv producers do unfortunately and everyone knows it

@niaram

Жыл бұрын

because technically nothing they did was really illegal

@us3rk1t30

Жыл бұрын

@@niaramwell it should be

I always wondered that; I was like "so the kids don't stop rehearsing until 11-12 at night WHO FEEDS THE CHILDREN?!?!"

So we can all agree the producers are evil and disgusting. Moving on

The one about the bathroom floor really broke my heart

I LOVE your videos and watch religiously every fortnight :) But i find it really tough to listen to you with background music... is there anyway you can turn the music down/not include it? Thank you! xx

I love your videos so much- could you maybe do an episode of DM uncovered but on raising Asia?

I watched about 3 or 4 episodes of season 1 (I guess) and couldn’t take it anymore. It was just flat out child abuse, and no one did anything to help these kids. The Moms were the worst example of parents, beyond even the screaming and drama…but to allow their child to be on the show in the first place. I don’t care if there was a contract, it wouldn’t have been a problem to find a lawyer to do the case pro bono for the publicity for the lawyer alone. Were the absolutely no mandatory reporters anywhere? MackZboss you do a great job with this, but it’s so hard for me to watch these videos because they are literally emotionally torturing these kids.

@corimoon3360

Жыл бұрын

Do you not realize what some moms had to do to get out of that contract??? The moms were literally lied to and tricked into those contract in the first place and some fought like hell to get out. Don’t shame them for that, especially if you’ve NEVER dealt with that before. You’re acting like it’s all so easy and it’s not. Lawyers are expensive and they don’t guarantee an out of the contract. They also had their kids to think about. You’re really ignorant

@aaliyahwoods8616

Жыл бұрын

@@corimoon3360 “lawyers are expensive” so is competitive dance have you not seen the show???🤣🤣🤣🤣ur so delusional for trying to defend grown women not reading a contract properly or throughly reading it and still deciding to sign it. They should’ve gotten lawyers because they could afford it how can they afford money for competitive dance but not a lawyer when they signed a contract as big as the one they signed. The mothers are also to blame for their kids traumas.

@oliviaaa3096

Жыл бұрын

@@corimoon3360if they were thinking about their kids, they would’ve paid any amount or done anything to get them out sooner🤷🏽‍♀️contracts always have loopholes. clearly you’re the ignorant one.

"The kids were off limits." (Brynn has entered the chat)

This leaves me with more questions. If they were aware of this in season 1, why did they sign a multi season contract? At point are the parents going to admit they will fully put their children into that situation long term. It’s why it irritated me when they’d go in on the guests saying they were chasing fame, when every single original mum did the same on a larger scale. If someone didn’t feed my kid, I wouldn’t continue to give them power.

@bellac6311

Жыл бұрын

they were locked into it, because they thought it would be a six episode documentary and then producers ambushed them and made them sign multi seasonal contract in quite a rushed, stressful situation. I dont lame the OG moms for being trapped, however i do blame all the moms who joined post season 2/3, as theyd had plenty of time to see how toxic an environment the show was

@laurelleaves

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure they got locked in during the weird phase when the show was transitioning from a documentary to a reality show while filming. Generally it just sounded like the adult cast was confused about what was going on imo

@cassierig1

Жыл бұрын

Let me just tell you… every contract has an out. These moms were mostly well off and could’ve afforded good lawyers. Locking children in a small area or restraining them in any way is charchable CA. As well as many other things the producers did. You could even get CPS involved (at least in NC) to help the parents with the emotional abuse happening. THESE PEOPLE COULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF THESE CONTACTS IF THEY WANTED TOO!!! People defending these parents citing the contracts are WAYYYY OFF! These mothers were educated and had plenty of resources.

@Brat120000

Жыл бұрын

@@cassierig1 yeah, every contract has an out, but look at how they did Kelly, Brooke and Paige. And if their kid wants to dance, which most of them did, then they had the sign the contract. Otherwise they couldn’t go to any other studio. That’s why you hear Christi asking Chloe if she wants to dance all the time, because if Chloe said she was ready to quit they would have gotten out.

@v3nus293

Жыл бұрын

@@bellac6311 and also they had to pay 100k to abby or the producers if they left

This makes me question season 1 episode 11. Nationals, when Kurt (idk how its spelt, Melissas ex husband) was in the dressing room. With what we've learned abour Kurt, maybe he wasnt the best father to Mackenzie and Maddie but ALL of the moms were grinning ear to ear in that scene. Like they are watching their own husbands interact with the girls, i feel like maybe that was actually a really sweet moment but maybe the producers cut it and made it seem like Maddie wasnt that glad to see him. Christi said in an interveiw for the episode that Maddie was kind of cold with him, but surely the moms would have been involved if they thought Maddie or Mackenzie didnt want Kurt around. And if the girls didnt want him around and it was staged, i dont think the moms would have smiled so much. I was born to a split parent home, and i would usually act like Maddie and Mackenzie did in this scene when i got to see my dad, even tho he wasnt around much. Maddie and Mackenzie seemed like girls from a split home excited to see their dad in my opinion. Christis comment always felt out of no where for me but idk.

@corimoon3360

Жыл бұрын

Christi’s comment wasn’t out of nowhere. She knows more about it than you do. She was there. Also you can clearly see Maddie is uncomfortable with Kurt around and that’s because she learned that behavior from Melissa who is always uncomfortable when Kurt is there. Stop being naive.

@florayanes5144

Жыл бұрын

@@corimoon3360 they said they came from a split home themselves. Obviously they view this situation thru their own lense. No need to be catty about it.

@saphiregood2550

Жыл бұрын

@@corimoon3360 i said it FELT like out was. If it wasnt so out of place, why was Christi smiling so big when Kurt and Maddie were talking? Coming from my own split home, i can understand how she looks uncomfortable. Its tense switching between parents. Especially if the parent isnt around often or at all. Just because its your parent doesnt mean you know how to act around them. If Maddies uncomfortable behavior is "learned" as you say, then my point still stands. Maddie loved her dad but was anxious because thats what her mom taught her shes supposed to be. I used to ask permission to use the bathroom literally every time i needed to go at dads. But you could bet money i was in dads lap and crawling all over him, using his as a personal jungle gym. I ADORED my dad as a little girl, but my mother woupd also lie to meand tell me he didnt want me and that he hated me. Spoiler alert, he adores me AND my brother(different moms) theres nothing in this world my dad wouldnt do for us. And now, as an adult i dont act differently wwith him or believe the bs my mother says about him. Children of split homes doesnt mean we somehow just suddenly hate one of our parents, it just means now we dont know what to do with ourselves for a minute. When we are shown its okay to interact, we open up a lot more with our second parent. So if Melissa shows the girls, no its not okay to interact with dad. They wont feel at ease around dad. That behavior is why i would sit on the couch at my dads for at least an hour by myself before even speaking to anyone after my mom dropped me off. My mom would pick fights everytime she dropped me off, causing anxiety for me. Melissa refuses to interact with Kurt at all on the show, if thats how it was off camera, then 100% their uncomfortability was taught tothem by Melissa. Doesnt mean the girls dont love their dad or dont want to be around him.

@CharlotteM1TA

Жыл бұрын

@@saphiregood2550 stop trauma dumping. You don't have to comment 2 full paragraphs about your trauma. All you had to say is that you went through something like this and then left it at that . You don't know if your experience is the same as maddies and kenzies. Don't compare your trauma to theirs. Everyone's trauma is different. Just because you went through something and they're showing similar signs to going through something like this, does not mean they are going through something like you. We really didn't have to hear your whole life story.

@CharlotteM1TA

Жыл бұрын

@@isadorav3949 yeah it doesn't do any good. It's just a way to be an attention seeker and make people feel bad for them. Like we didn't need to hear their whole life story. They always use other people's "trauma" as an excuse to comment their own. It's shocking how much people do it and its not like we can just stop it either.

Can you do a video looking into dawn? I wonder if dawn and abbey ever went to court?

@ninairish763

Жыл бұрын

Dawn did a show with Christi about it on Christi’s couch

Could you do an analysis of the episode where kelly left? I'd love to see how it really played out behind the scenes...because it all seems like the children were manipulated from the beginning.

I don’t care what the repercussions would have been… if someone LOCKED my child in the washroom I would be knocking that door the fuck down. I wouldn’t be giving in to that shit.

SEASON FOUR IS HERE!!!

I wanna know the real story of why Melissa ran out of the studio when "they" were asking about her engagement in season 2 episode 11

These producers need to be locked up fr

I gotta say it’s kinda of funny how they say Melissa got mad at production for making Kenzie say that but in one of the seasons at LA, she did a dance about it and Melissa says how popular that saying is and how they make t-shirts about it. But I know that could be all be production as well but I thought they would have stood up for themselves by then.

@ang4588

Жыл бұрын

I think once Melissa saw people react to it as a cute and silly line that made Mackenzie more endearing, she didn’t care. She was only afraid cause she thought they’d twist it to make her look bad/like she’s not working as hard.

@brandi2746

Жыл бұрын

@@ang4588 yea I understand she was just being a protective mom and it was obvious they couldn’t trust production. I imagine she probably did say something to them about it and they just glossed it over like no big deal.

it's just so upsetting

Ashley was awful and made a lot of comments that didn’t need to be made, but Jill was worse in my opinion. I couldn’t stand them and I couldn’t stand that they were constantly bringing in the kids to their drama.

Wow was this before child labor laws put in place? Seriously does anyone have any info on this because i know they didn’t come into affect until around s3/s4??

@hannahday2228

Жыл бұрын

Reality TV is a grey area legally and doesn't have the same laws a drama show would have.