I still can't believe that we can't use all the moves of the weapon we put on our left hand, ds2 had this. I would prefer this to powerstance.

@DrnMontemayor

Жыл бұрын

That, since DS3, should've never left. One of the dumbest decisions they've made.

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

Ds2 had better dual wielding, even if you had different types of weapons not powerstanced the moveset complimented each other, a thrust would come out faster if you did a swing before with your other hand, and some weapons even changed moveset only for that follow up attack

@spikedjacket5175

Жыл бұрын

You can't backstab with the left hand in DS2. As a left handed person, I still got the short end of the stick in DS2. Nostalgia is always through rose tinted glasses my friend.

@spikedjacket5175

Жыл бұрын

​@@abrahamrangel23262 words. Twinblades powerstance. It's awful.

We need Dark Souls 2 remastered

@leonharris5460

Жыл бұрын

You already got it, its called Elden Ring

@TheTurt

Жыл бұрын

We need Dark Souls 2 REMAKE. With everything that was cut or unfinished restored. I want to see giants march across the sea, explore a gutter that doesn't suck, and wear a barrel on my head. Is that too much to dream for?

@YourLocalRaider

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheTurt YES. THIS. I WANNA SEE MORE DESPAIR THEME IN THE GAME.

@bladeck99

Жыл бұрын

@@leonharris5460 so stupid bro, did u even watch the video?

@thedampiestbadge2836

Жыл бұрын

​@leonharris5460 no offense but as someone with over 1500+ hours I would like to say that Elden ring is probably worst than ds2 in quite a number of ways and didn't live up with the hype it had going. It's a good game don't get me wrong, but it has a number of serious issues going for it that just makes it not a masterpiece or a dark souls 2 2.0

This stream had opponents in the ER arena medium-rolling with almost overlapping i-frames on high-lat, then Steel switched to DS2 and was roll-catching at over 300ms lat. I'm not sure what the philosophy behind modern FromSoft netcode is

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

Ds2 used a different netcode because of the development team being different. The Miyazaki crew always uses the same awful netcode

@glatykoffi6672

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they didn't make the god awful decision of making rolls overlapp in the first place, they probably check a single side instead of making the attack fail at the slightlest desync.

In the topic of aesthetically pleasing stuff, I think it would be really cool if the bloodyfingers animation for spawning when invading was rising up from a pool of blood

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

Like the Blood Nobles? That's a really cool idea, but it would only fit for the bloody fingers. Maybe make recusants use the same animation but they come from fire or lava, that way it fits and it's also cool as hell.

@vitorgogo

Жыл бұрын

@@youtubewanderer3347 yeaaaah I was thinking of an animation for recusants too, that lava idea is really good! Or maybe a snake head like that bloodborne item

I remember I started my first dark souls playthroughs in January. (ER was my first souls game) and everyone I asked told me to just skip DS2. I’m so glad I didn’t. The game is amazing.

@nachalnik5738

Жыл бұрын

Gigachad

@gugeyao8640

Жыл бұрын

That everyone, you just mentioned, is stupid.

@leonharris5460

Жыл бұрын

DS2 is alright, personally it's at the bottom of my list but im not saying its a bad game, i would still rather play it than most other games these days.

@yaqubebased1961

7 ай бұрын

Although it's my least fav in the series, it's by far my most played one and I still absolutely love it. There's no other game like it, and there are many things that it has going for it over the other games in the series. It's got this weird and unique charm going for it, idk how to explain it.

@RimuruSolosYourMultiverse

3 ай бұрын

@@yaqubebased1961In regards to PvP, DS2> Elden Ring and DS3 and it’s not even close. DS2 PvP required actual skill, no weapon art gimmicks for casuals to spam away with giving them the impression they’re even remotely good at PvP, no UG powerstance crouch poking being the definitive safest and most effective approach to every encounter. Elden Rings PvP is as one note as it gets, still fun to tryhard in yet somehow no where near as satisfying as winning in DS2 utilizing actual skill.

DS2 might not be the best in the series but it is very much a labour of developers who would not let the game die, during it's turbulent production and after the release. That alone demands respect. I miss s on back steps.

Reasons why DS2 > ER: 1. It has Shanalotte; I rest my case.

@Nehilism

Жыл бұрын

Shut up.

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

Best waifu seek seek lest

Backstep s were the GOAT.

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

Actually the real reason why i consider ds2 to have better pve is thanks to them, a dodge that had less stamina cost but needed good timing, the boss patterns of the fume knight seemed impossible to dodge without depleting my stamina but i mixed backsteps into the formula and i had enough stamina to punish him with a few attacks

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

That allow us to do nice things, nice running Attack and nice backstep parry 💗 No other fs game have that, and is cool af.

Also i know this is insignificant in the grand scheme of things but ds2 pvp just looks better. In elden ring seeing a good gamer is watching someone constantly dragging their nuts on the floor and poking, ds2 pvp still very much looks similar to the pve which just makes life as a viewer better

@Nehilism

Жыл бұрын

Dark Souls 2 pvp looks like dogshit. Shut up.

@WeeabooPocky

Жыл бұрын

"dragging their nuts on the floor" that's a good one xD

Whether it's most of DS2 or minor stuff like BB's insight shop, the way From forgets the games they've created before is kind of depressing.

One thing dark souls 2 made me realize after playing elden ring is how it does not overstays it's welcome in terms of bosses making them much more rememberable, sure ER got marika's stakes and swift gameplay but DS2 has that iceberg of untapped potential for a remaster ( knowing it's gonna be a glorified patch note with a 40 bucks ticket )

@youtubewanderer3347

Жыл бұрын

It already got a remaster that was a glorified patch note. It's called Scholar of the first sin. It did improve the game graphically, but made it run worse.

@yaqubebased1961

7 ай бұрын

Prior to ER, it had the most bosses in the series. Most of them were low tier tbh, but at least they were unique

Dark souls 2 fight clubs was unparalleled, I remember hosting and fighting in de2 for hours. So much so I actually maxed out the time played for the game at 99998 hours lol. Miss that game when it was booming.

@zawarudo8991

Жыл бұрын

I miss iron keep bridge. Will always remember the first time I ruined a fightclub by going rambo on the friendly meme host then getting mail "dude wtf, we were doing a fightclub", noob me was like "wait that‘s a thing?". Quickly became my favorite part in all of Souls, I still got a twitchy PrismStone finger M U S T D E C O R A T E B R I D G E

@imdefinitelynotjesus

Жыл бұрын

@@zawarudo8991 me too, me too. it’s truly sad the rainbow stones haven’t had the same effect in elden ring for sure.

@DezZzO_YT

Жыл бұрын

You've played for 99998 hours?

@imdefinitelynotjesus

Жыл бұрын

@@DezZzO_YT yeah lol, health problems had me stuck at home a lot with little to nothing els to do. Besides back then I had a great community I was apart of that would just spend time in game getting to know each other in world wile playing. Good old times.

@DezZzO_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@imdefinitelynotjesus I was more curious if you're sure you've played for 99998 hours, It's like, my dude, that's straight up 11.5 years of playing DS2 and you'd have to play it without sleeping or any other activities since 2012 (the game released in 2014 lol)

Love the low tracking of the attacks, idiots complain about it because the other games play themselves if you lock on, they are so used to just spam r1 and have the broken tracking do all the work for them so they speak badly when in ds2 they realize they have to do it manually, low tracking gave wide swipes a purpose to exist because they catch anyone rolling around you while thrust attacks cant, not like elden ring where you can spam pokes and automatically turn instantly to the opponent even if its on your back

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

So True

this is why we need the devs to actually add these features back into elden ring

@Fapnyr

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully elden ring 2 by dark souls 2 team

@DrnMontemayor

Жыл бұрын

@@Fapnyr most of "B team" has been there all along. These are conscious decisions.

9:25 not only that but u have a guaranteed r1 > r1, or r2 > r2, in elden ring if u can punish an estus u only get 1 hit and that's it.

Amor upgrades where amazing i love ds2

Man having the full moveset in the offhand sound's like a dream, idk why they didn't bring that back in elden ring.

Who remembers the toxic poison black witch staff, hacked weapons.

@junoglrr9119

Жыл бұрын

Was it like 1frame toxic build up?? Lol No but the vanquishers seal

@2HandHangerDunksOnly

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t that the batfog staff

@Bitter-Wounds

Жыл бұрын

Poison binoculars

@CriminalizeObesity

Жыл бұрын

That was the Batwing staff, which has innate poison buildup on melee strikes that for some reason also used to cause poison mist to insta poison players. When this was patched, this staff became totally useless though since that was the only thing going for it :/

i miss backstep i-frames. i love using the axe backstep running r1 so much, this game is the reason i love the Butcher's Knife

@TheGuardian_TM

Жыл бұрын

Backstep s and animation cancels added so much depth to PvP. So good

It did do plenty of MP systems better. Since DS3, I've been pissed off that weapon parries, mirrored movesets, Ascetics, controlling if you could be invaded before and after beating bosses... and so on, were removed.

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

So True

Elden Ring is a mountain of missed opportunities

i pretty much agreed with this videos, but i would like to add something more that ds2 did better than ER and probably from any souls game. 1.- from what i remember this game was made with a different game engine. so basically that's why it is so different from a lot of mechanics. 2.- there's actually phantom hits in the game, you can pretty much see the effects the wapon makes especially if you're using elemental damange, but here's the thing, with status effects it doesn't work because the game checks first if your character recieved damange, then it adds the status effect build up. 3.- ER ps system is inferior to ds2 actually, sure in ER you have good move sets when ps compared with ds2 (like for example katanas), but PS just works with weapons in the same weapon class, not like in ds2 where you could do a lot of combinations like UGS + CGS, rapier + spear, katana + cs. let's not also forget that for ps you needed to get 1.5x minimum stats req from the weapon to actually use it, i say that because quality builds, basic and mundane infusions were worth to use, in ER quality and standard infusions are pretty bad an almost no one use them. 4.- all weapon in their way are viable, or at least fun to use. 5.- about the glitches in ds2, i also agreed, they raised the skill cealing in the game by a lot, and they were not as game breaking or at least not so unfair to fight against, like DS3 bow glitch or ER chainsaw probably the most anoying ones i hate to fight in ds2 are; the instant backstab and infinite backstab bleed (which with a proper set up you could do both).

@tinminator8905

10 ай бұрын

1. This is not correct. The engine's are the same, but they are on different versions of the same engine, since development of several games was simultanious. People who never engage in game development often don't understand how engine's work, especially in house one's. They don't stay the same and change drastically over time. The Dark Souls and Elden Ring engine are technically the same but they are realistically completely unrecognizable in every way. Also why when people say that studios should switch engine's already, because they have used it for 15 years are dumb af. The reason why you ever use an in house engine is that you shape it to your particular needs. Other engine's might offer the same functionality with some make shift solution, but if you build that feature yourself you know exactly how it works and it has the exact specifics you want. For Dark Souls 2 compared to their later games it just turns out that the needs were different and although they might still exist in later versions, the developers don't utilize them or revise them to work differently.

Dark Souls 2 was and is #1 ୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

I’ve BEEN saying this for a while now. Darksouls 2 did it best

On release, the disappointment of ds2 pve hit me so hard I just couldn't get into the pvp. I came back years later in sotfs but I still couldn't really get into it, the issue this time being a lack of resources and information about pvp. The best I found was a few pastebins of notes and some old reddit threads. This was also a problem in ds3 where almost none of the tryhards who really understood the game was putting out content to educate the masses and what was there was from a more casual "ugs's are op" perspective. As a matter of fact, the ytber I got all my information about ds3 pvp has taken down all his videos. It's really really such a great thing how ytbers like steel have been putting out educational content. Misinformation and just lack of information has been such a massive problem in the wider pvp scene

Belfry Luna 😂 Spent hundreds of hours in there. Great fun.

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

Best covenant reward in the game, valuable titanite chunks in early game for free, elden ring just gives some useless thing nobody uses

@Vidrinskas

Жыл бұрын

@@abrahamrangel2326 Yeah silky stones could get you good stuff too.

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

@@Vidrinskas starting the game and flexing your luck to other players buffing with the trident you could get from those birds felt so good

I've played over 960 hrs PVP ONLY in DS2 SOTFS and I can't say it can compete with ER pvp in terms of gameplay variety. I rly miss unintentionally created animation cancel mechanics and glitches that resulted into animation acceleration, that were usefull for pvp but there was like almost zero chance to defeat someone with Katana/Dark magic who knows how to cancel animation, reverse backstep/backstab and even more advanced shite, aviable for fast weapon users cosnidering how SLOOOOW were huge weapons. Yes, DS2 was the games I PVPed the most, but it''s potenital was quite low and I can make myself come back here just for some nostalgia good old rolling/running r1/r2 blacksteel katana combos in red phantom arena. Can't say rly much about DS2 netcode. But it rly just depended on what was your opponent location: sometimes you have good latency, sometimes you die from Kenshi of Mortal Kombat. Just like in Elden Ring. Guess the problem of souls games are p2p connectgion and no real option of regional matchmaking restrictions (If I'm informed correctly, the one from game\s options doesn't work for non-Japanese users).

@cooldudeachyut

Жыл бұрын

Yea, in ER most of the builds are viable unlike any Souls game ever, which is great.

I quit after 1.09, it was just depressing to play it or even watch it. Please make more DS2 content, I really enjoyed this.

Thank you Steel for confirming Dark Souls 2 is Best Souls 2. The froggo has spoken. If you don’t agree that’s simply a skill issue on your behalf.

@Fapnyr

Жыл бұрын

100%

@Nehilism

Жыл бұрын

Dark souls 2 sucks dick.

@StoicScape219

Жыл бұрын

DS2 literally had an issue with elemental builds outdamaging physical builds in melee due lack of elemental defenses. This made near every pvp build some brand of Harry Potter build with min str/dex and elemental infusion coupled with some int or fth for certain spell casts. Were you even around for resonant weapon builds? And due to soul memory it hurt pvp meta levels because 125-150 builds were being paired with Havel monsters using great magic barrier and general maxed levels. And backstabs were so bad there were countless clips of people getting backstabbed across entire rooms. This video only highlights the good things in ds2, not the major problems. That’s why it’s titled the things it did BETTER than ER, not worse. Go be a boot licker someplace else 😑

@TheGuardian_TM

Жыл бұрын

@@StoicScape219 You could create 100% elemental shields for every element to negate spell/infusion damage, elemental rings, troches, etc. The backstab lag timing was easy to learn, similar to having to figure out timing in DkS. Soup memory was the worst PvP component ever implemented though.

@xbdon

Жыл бұрын

​@@StoicScape219sounds like a skill issue. U could just be a chad and wreck everybody with a darkdrift dealing 180 dmg. Every game has their bullshit but despite the overpowered builds in DS2, the skill ceiling was so high u could dance around any havel monster or any resonant weapon abuser.

belltower guardian well kill anyone :D the most terrify place to invade(if you need pick up your souls, and you well need for keeping your souls rank relevant, otherwise you well be under level), also no cloud save, and not only solo invasion but hollow host, don know if they change that, but that was very dumb.

PvP boss fight - but that's something every Dark Souls did better not only DS2.

I was lazy about completing the covenants and soul memory, but this shit just rehyped me again. Thanks agains Steel.

Besides leveling ADP to get comfortable I-frame rolls, lag stabs, and soul memory, the game had above average pvp

@Swissgar0

Жыл бұрын

They honestly did backstabs best.

@DezZzO_YT

Жыл бұрын

Above average compared to what? Other PVP games? Maybe Compared to other souls games? It's literally the best

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

SM so nobody kick Your ass early game, backstab is ez to understand, much better than Ds1, tanks and Mages dont need adp

@DezZzO_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@AtreyusNinja to be fully fair SM also allows for some brutal twinking

DS2 was my first Souls game, and I still love it.

Steel please more ds2 content

We need the devs to make ds2 2 instead of elden ring dlc

No game in the series deserves a remake with everything BS removed and everything good kept more than DS2, the amount of dev time stolen from it and good features removed/done worse in future titles is just staggering

Pretty much explained why I only really played Elden Ring for the PVE.

Very good points. Most game mechanics were very meh compared to the rest of the series, but I still can't fathom how they basically crafted the perfect multiplayer system and then just went back to the drawing board 😂

Dark Souls II has always been my favorite because of it's PvP and no amount of scrubs can change my mind

@CriminalizeObesity

Жыл бұрын

"But ADP"

DS2 masterpiece indeed

I always liked DS2 from launch tbh. I have the statue and map that came with the 360 special edition so I'm old as shit, LOL. But the backlash it faced from the community caused Miyazaki to reconsider every decision for DS3, under pressure from Bamco too who basically demanded a series. Because before this, the games were always meant to be "spiritual successors" not direct sequels. And of course due to the time crunch, by reconsider.....I mean nuke the changes made entirely. That's why base game DS3 is just DS1 but a little faster with none of the good additions even carried over from DS1 (Blue eye orb my beloved) and also why they went "fuck it" in the final DLC and gave us the anime AF Gaels Greatsword and RKPGS. The teams in FROM were just over Souls games.

Gg, i remember you destroying me in my prime at the iron keep Bridge fight club with a black steel katana back when i thought i was hot shit. I was greatly humbled that day

The DS2 online community was the first one I was ever a part of and it was so good. Don't know how it was for Demons Souls and the first Dark Souls, but the later games just never developed such a dedicated community with events and stuff. It kinda makes sense, since the newer games never invited it, instead progressively dumbing down the online aspects. I don't think Fromsoft game's are great competitive games but DS2 taught me that they can be some of the best casual online experiences out there.

Please ds2 content more

@apolloniuspergus9295

Жыл бұрын

Watch a guy called Ulteriortech9, wholesome italian who still makes a lot of quality DS2 content

@apolloniuspergus9295

Жыл бұрын

I recommend his weapon focused videos, where he sticks to specific weapons and uses them for invasions, like the Zweihander one.

DS2 the best confirmed, again.

Out of the entire "souls" catalog, the only games i consistently go back to are DS2 and Bloodborne. The rest are alright but just don't have the replay value of those two.

Someone know if there Is some way to get the mod on ps5 becouse i tried this mornig the game and i didnt find any players

@DezZzO_YT

Жыл бұрын

Nope, PC is king

Ds2 really was the best. Soul memory was dumb, and retroactively looking back the lack of a squat emote sucks but otherwise it’s just better

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

At least u can get broken ppl invading u early game like in Ds1 thx to the SM

Poise, stamina, rolling and PvP in general.

ds2 what a time brotha🙂

Crypt Blacksword my beloved

Vanilla ds2 is my baby. I wish that was the version they ported to pc and next gen and not SOTFS

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

Vanilla was my first experience, preorder edition day 1, reach ng+8 did hours and hours pvp, now, i recetly played it once again after years of Scholar; a lot of the areas lack props and enemies in vanilla and it feels almost like a beta version. You really notice how many of the rooms are just empty cubes.

Dark Souls 2 zweihander is my favorite

Is DS ever gonna be on sale again? It's been yrs! 🙏

An amazing video, dark souls 2 is the best indeed, make more dark souls 2 pvp.

having a higher skill floor should be fine. these games are known for the hard pve so i think it would be best if the pvp followed that as well. and from my experience games with a higher skill floor just naturally have a higher skill ceiling and more skill expression but i am a ds1 pvp enjoyer so my opinions are usually invalid

Slept on DS2 for years since it was always called the "bad one". IMO its the best in the series, and the only 'true' followup to DS1. Sure, it has questionale ideas (soul memory, hollowing etc.) and janky animations. But the mechanics are the mostly clear and well though out of any of soulsborne games both PvP and PVE wise.

@nachalnik5738

Жыл бұрын

Why hollowing is a questionable idea? It's a great punishing mechanic for the player to get good, and yet it's not as serious as the world tendency in DeS. Moreover, your hollowing also gets stronger the more sin you have, so for killing NPCs you'll be justly punished with a greater health penalty.

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

Dont ever play demons souls if u dont Like the hollowing System! As well we lose 30 (33%?) of our max hp in ds3 as soon we die once.

And status effects scaled with dex

The overall depth in ds2 is genuinely remarkable. But sadly pseudo intellectual KZread reviewers and their 11 hour video essays on the game have convinced so many people that ds2 is the “bad one”

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

F Mauler

@bee4210

Жыл бұрын

@@AtreyusNinja no mauler, saying “objectively” does not make you smarter

@zawarudo8991

Жыл бұрын

@@bee4210tbh his "pvp section" was hilarious, dude invalidated all his DS2 takes with that single Minute of nerd rage on Iron Keep Bridge

@CriminalizeObesity

Жыл бұрын

@zawarudo8991 What's even funnier is Mauler later admitted that he knew while working on that section that it was half baked garbage. The DS2 hate train is so """special""" that it's conductors can not only consciously and comfortably produce complete shit knowing plebs will eat it up regardless, but they're even comfortable casually joking about doing it

@bee4210

Жыл бұрын

@@zawarudo8991 “why am I punished for poor stamina management and drinking estus in front of the boss? Erasing the subjectivey of your experience, this is objectively bad game design objectively speaking.”

How it improved the weapon movesets from DS1's mostly garbage and also made most weapons viable. Clearly DS3 and Elden Ring didn't get the memo.

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

They all had strong points and needed brain juice to be used properly, scythes and polearms needing to hit with the point of the weapon otherwise they do low damage if the shaft hits... Elden ring casuals wouldnt be able to adapt to that much skill

Ds2 is so underrated thanks for showcasing the cool tech

Steel about to go back to making glitch tutorials for ds2. RIP elden content

@WeeabooPocky

Жыл бұрын

he already showed stance swap, quick attacks and bow cancel. there's a lot more: -quick rolls -pivot bs -attack cancel -recovery cancel -ravioli step (which has different inputs that in any souls game [literally you just have to block]). -instant backstab -infinite bleed backstab -tracking jumping attack -tumble buffs and the list goes on.

DS2 fightclub when?

I only care for MP systems, if otherwise amazing ER's LORE doesn't have any room left within to put some fricking covenants in (it's much too late for that imo) then it can fck right off. Genuinely excited for the DLC - hope it's gonna be 10/10 and a nice wrap to the IP 👋

Dark souls 2 is my favourite souls game. But for me fighting against 3 dudes is just much more fan. And in elden ring despite it's problems i think the fact that you actually have a chance to do it is cool.

Making me miss DS2 pvp. I try to play arena’s in Elden Ring and it’s just depression.

Would love to see more ds2 content. It might just be my nostalgia, but love to see it in 2023

Based af

The problem with Elden Ring is the Ash of War idea is stupid. It doesn’t add any tactical depth to the game, it removes it. The exception, as in DS3, is weapon arts (ashes) that change the move set. Gameplay, both PVE and PVP, was fun in Souls 2 because every decision had consequences. Now you just jump around flinging magic weapon poop around hoping it connects before the other guy’s blue katana piss hits you. It regards reaction and quick thinking. DS2 rewards thinking ahead to your opponent’s next few moves. A good gameplay experience would actually be the original Lords of the Fallen but with decent development so the game is good and a PVP component.

I truly love ds2, and I think it did the pvp gameplay better than any other game, but in the end can never take the top pvp spot for me, due to there being no infinite invasion item. Nothing sucked more than getting ganked on your last cracked red eye and knowing you were gonna have to go do arena fights against tryhards just to get some more gas in the tank for invasions. i really liked the idea of earning your orbs, fun in theory, but not in practice. maybe i just needed to git gud

@Steelovsky

Жыл бұрын

I don't know how to tell you this, but you could buy infinite amount of cracked red eye orbs in the BoB arena shop if you were on NG+

@junoglrr9119

Жыл бұрын

Buying stuff on agape ring builds is not fun

@AutistiCat2406

Жыл бұрын

​@@Steelovsky I'm going to cry wtf

@BilliamTorpedo

Жыл бұрын

​@@Steelovsky godammit

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with fighting tryhards, u can only learn from them, and nothing wrong to fight gankers too, accept that is possible to die in pvp and u gonna have good time!

i enjoyed ds2 a lot but the many bugs and my personally hated back step spam makes it not enjoyable to play when i played ds3 and ER again. also arenas you can fight anyone at any level creating dumb momemnt where you fight a dude who has a 2 shot katana. However pvping the iron keep was peak souls pvp and there where a lot of cool ideas/movesets/weapons I hope one day come back to elden ring because we really need em. some in mind are casting weapons, axe movesets, alternative straight sword movesets. Ds2 is solid and has good ideas and it was a good attempt at trying to make souls pvp more online friendly, which it did to some extent, but the main flaws over shadow its good attemps. I feel like elden ring kinda is having the same issue, they have cool ideas but the main issues people have with ER is holding them back, and i hope that in the DLC they can address these issues to help the game become popular for online, both in co-op and pvp. Game might have had the "game of the year" but comparing it to other souls games, the standard needs to be higher. too many solid features from ds2, and ds3 where not properly applied.

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but in ds2 you only get one shot by an overleveled guy in an arena that separates players by game cycle, in elden ring you get one shot by any loser at your level with a skillless build they found on youtube

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

I Like that u complain about the SPAM of backstep. Anybody can complain about the spam of everything, spam is never a good thing. But u have a way to punish ppl spam in ds2, not in the other games Like ds3 and er

Is that a hard base outro

ds2 tech is best tech❤

Oh god, don’t even get me started. ER is inferior in many ways.

13:44 Nie dość że dostaje unikalny moveset, to jeszcze dostaje +50AR w lewej łapie ;)

@poopass1596

Жыл бұрын

uga buga papież

@ZieIuX

Жыл бұрын

@@poopass1596 uga buga 21:37 itd. xd

I'm ds2 Chad it's very active I get invasions all the time

I liked the pvp when I got backstabbed across the room

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

U cant blame the game for Your connection

Ds2 has the best PVP of any souls game. people who hate the game just mindlessly parrot what everyone else says, or they just get behind the meme and have a laugh which is okay, but really i think most people dont realize how much of a lost treasure it is.

@Nehilism

Жыл бұрын

You clearly don't remember Binocular Boosted Backstabs, Dual Havelyns, Turtle armor with 16 buffs, monastery scimitar backstep parries, and the floaty piece of shit pvp. Shut up.

@Fapnyr

Жыл бұрын

Yeah ds2 not being the best in the series, let alone "bad", is pure reddit opinion

lmao, much better title than the video about some mod saving the PvP 😂😂😂 can't even argue with this one!

Sleebe will have a field day when DS2 Remastered comes out in 2027 lilbroCope

Yes fully agree

Imagine winning 500 duels for a spell

@WeeabooPocky

Жыл бұрын

ikr, the bad thing is that you have to get it in order to obtain an achievement, that or you can just get in in ng+3.

@justaquietpeacefuldance

Жыл бұрын

I did imagine it! It was cool! I wasn't doing it in BoB tho, fck THAT place 😂

Preach

DS2 will always be active. If there is 300 people playing that day you can try to invade those 300 people - ER activity right now, when I watch some streams, reminds me of DS2 activity from few years back - what a joke already after a year 😂 Being more like DS2 COULD save ER's PvP, not seamless, not 1vs1 or 10vs10.

DS2's netcode is still unmatched above all souls games

@phir9255

Жыл бұрын

But it also has the jerky movement and getting hit from across the map problem

@Samura1313

Жыл бұрын

@@phir9255 If we are going to pick the worst examples, you'll find similar things in other games. If we are going to pick the average experience, then it's not even up to debate

@WeeabooPocky

Жыл бұрын

​@@phir9255 oh no, the clunkyness, i can't with the clunkyness of ds2.

@WeeabooPocky

Жыл бұрын

​@@phir9255 ah yeah also, ER has the same problem with getting hit from across the map.

@Samura1313

Жыл бұрын

@@WeeabooPocky To me the worst problem with ds2 sotfs is that moving the camera with the mouse feels slow, despite the game itself running well. It also has a weird delay for mouse clicking, which is fixed by remapping the attack button to a keyboard key. The "clunky feel" of ds2 is, for the most part, I believe, caused by the fact that ds2 locks your camera without locking the direction you face. So when you roll sideways, you get up facing sideways, even if you're locked on, so you have to walk forward to face the enemy again. Most people aren't used to that

please steel more ds2 content

Dark Souls 2 = best Dark souls! Any other opinion is objectively wrong.

@Tony-hn8qy

Жыл бұрын

Copium

@AokijiKuzanArara

Жыл бұрын

@@Tony-hn8qy No, truth.

@Uriseph

Жыл бұрын

In terms of level design? Heck no.

@AokijiKuzanArara

Жыл бұрын

@@Uriseph Best pvp, best lore, best music, best characters, best atmosphere, best variety of builds, best mechanics, best Hub-location, best enemies and boss designs, best DLC's.

@AutistiCat2406

Жыл бұрын

​@@AokijiKuzanArara ds3 has better music and I don't like giving ds3 any credit

I wish we could pitch ideas that Dark Souls 2 had to FromSoft so they could be implemented in modern games. I love DS2 but there is no deniying that game had a lot of techincal difficulties.

Man I can tell you in Xbox that game is dead sadly It’s pvp is the best of the series I wish I could invade in DS2 again

It's like yes, ds2 had all these cool features, but how the game actually feels to play is just so bad imo. Really unfortunate.

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

that suck to be u man

I hope the next souls game will be made by the second team that made ds2

@threeDeeBeginner

Жыл бұрын

there are no things like team 1 and 2. Myiazaki talked about it : all emploies are working on all games at the same time, because that is what cost the less. Money is the key. There is a director fot each games, but not an entire team dedicated on only one game. Morevover, 90% of assets are always made in China.

@mouaz670

Жыл бұрын

@@threeDeeBeginner As long as it’s the same people who made all these cool things in ds2 i would be satisfied

@AtreyusNinja

Жыл бұрын

80% of the ppl Who made elden ring was b team no? At least this is what i heard

The controversy of all time!

I wouldn't understand any of this since I never played ds2 😂😂😂 Is it worth playing?

@Helleuphoria

Жыл бұрын

Why would you skip dks2?

@Jokerminilla

Жыл бұрын

@@Helleuphoria i wasn't able to play it for reasons back when I was 12

@Tony-hn8qy

Жыл бұрын

@@Helleuphoria Because the game is pure garbage.

@greenpinapple820

Жыл бұрын

If you have a buddy who will pve and pvp with you during the playthrough, sure. Otherwise it is probably the most boring base DS experience.

@asdergold1

Жыл бұрын

​@@Tony-hn8qy So is DS3.

стиловский русский чи нет? оч странный акцент

@Shikori_Tsuru

Жыл бұрын

Он поляк (:

I deslike ds2 it is my least favorite souls game but i feel soo stupid for quitting the game whitout giving PVP a proper chance becouse after seeing Elden Ring pvp i actually missed DS3 pvp and the little i had on DS2 pvp

Real and true 💯

I mean, let's not pretend that if ER had rewards like DS2 does, that people wouldn't just afk farm for them. And if they couldn't do that, they would still just not pvp. Like, rewards are great and all, but if people don't want to do it, they just won't. The reality is that DS pvp just isn't for everyone. You can't just shove some rewards in it and think that will somehow make everyone love it.

@justaquietpeacefuldance

Жыл бұрын

No one cares for afk farming. Is that a f'n reason to not have the rewards? What a backward take...

@omegaxtrigun

Жыл бұрын

@@justaquietpeacefuldanceYes, it is a reason. Because if the rewards just lead to more afk farming than people actually pvping, then that's just worse than not having the rewards at all. "No one cares for afk farming." The tons of video guides on how to afk farm that were released around the time of ER launch say otherwise.

@justaquietpeacefuldance

Жыл бұрын

@@omegaxtrigun well then we should get rid of multi/pvp all together - there will be no afk people then 100% guaranteed. It's a backward take, you didn't say anything I have not considered.

@justaquietpeacefuldance

Жыл бұрын

@@omegaxtrigun there's def more people playing the game, doing co-op rather than trying to do this "farm" afk. I don't see why introducing rewards will suddenly cause that to shift and "lead to more afk farming than people actually pvping". Idk where r u getting this from, it's seems silly.

@omegaxtrigun

Жыл бұрын

@@justaquietpeacefuldance Quit exaggerating. I never said there shouldn't be pvp. I was just speaking in terms of rewards.

Infinte stunlock on getting hit by multiples opponents makes it worst than DS3 pvp

@laurence_lookmyr

Жыл бұрын

Ds3 pvp was the worst in the series ngl

@AutistiCat2406

Жыл бұрын

I hate it and love it It's very annoying but making it where you can't just run through entire areas free is pretty nice

@asdergold1

Жыл бұрын

Clearly you've never played it and only DS3. You can't get stunlocked in DS2. DS3 pvp was garbage in comparison.

@Nobody32990

Жыл бұрын

@@asdergold1 yeah you can get stunlocked. If that wasn't the case then videos like "Chariot Dude" or "Pain Train" wouldn't exist. It was mitigated later on in game's life but never truly removed.

@kristian7254

Жыл бұрын

@@asdergold1 clearly you've never invaded in DS2 'cause you can get infinite stunlocked and get gank by 4 ppl without a co-invader. Moon-sun's bell are not the case for co-invaders 'cause it's possible just for that covenant.

deleted er yesterday. will probably reinstall ds2