For an average player, this would be the start of chess merchant arc.

@vadosgaming_

10 ай бұрын

or Alchemist Ring Blight arc

@Skladak_Killer_98

10 ай бұрын

Or just nurse enjoyer series

@fastcow7013

10 ай бұрын

Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's nurse montage.

@vaportheowl

10 ай бұрын

For me it was impossible skill check doctor

@pizzapizza6722

10 ай бұрын

CHESS MERCHANT LOLL

they finally "balanced" the game to make it as frustrating for otz as it was for the average player

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

This devs are so bad at their jobs that they completely ignore the only player that tries to bring good and balance to this game

@bang1054

10 ай бұрын

Naw, this game used to be even more stupid. And otz has shown frustration before from other dumb things in the game and powers through it like a champ to keep on trying. Your probably just used to watching KZread otz.

@coolwolf5425

10 ай бұрын

Hes been way more annoyed at the game than this.

@Natsukashii-Records

10 ай бұрын

@@bang1054 Frankly, endurance on that perk wasn't needed, it's already overpowered as is and besides they buffed buckle up so you can be toxic with that alone, no need to have more on it. But as frustrating that perk is, I wouldn't mind it one bit if they just put an extra layer in doing gens, like having to gather parts to start repairing them or something to delay them because frankly that's the most agregious part of the game. The tightness in timing gens cause is ridiculous even more than 50 endurance perks. You can literally have the gens done in 5 minutes flat if you go against a good group.

@bang1054

10 ай бұрын

@@Natsukashii-Records using a perk doesn't make you toxic, buckle up is strong now so of course people are going to use it. Doesn't make it toxic. About the gen situation, I think the bigger problem is the map layouts, you can have unfairly placed tiles , and most of the time they benefit the survivor, especially when playing as or against an m1 killer. It's why the best killers are killers that can either close the gap quickly or have range, such as blight and nurse or pyramid head and death slinger. If your playing pig or wraith or Myers without his mori add-on then good luck. I'd say the new perks for survivors are needed to combat strong killers like nurse and blight with how oppressive they can be, but because the perks are strong enough to help you compete with the top tier killers, they become mega unfun to fight as almost every other killer. They need to either bring everything up to par(which I'd prefer) or nerf a bunch of stuff on both sides. Regardless of the balancing atm tho, this is still way better then getting insta morid, or being insta decisive striked.

The subtitles explaining the different survivor plays are very helpful!

@maxdragonslayer

10 ай бұрын

I agree it let me follow along quite well

@nikanau2041

10 ай бұрын

But too fast

@dustinsterling3248

10 ай бұрын

​@@nikanau2041pausing the video is an option

@nikanau2041

10 ай бұрын

@@dustinsterling3248 I know, but that’s annoying for viewers. I think keeping subtitles at least 4s would be a common courtesy, human eye can’t read faster

@holyroman6541

10 ай бұрын

@@nikanau2041 Yes it can read faster than that tho?? I could read it just fine.

I REALLY love BHVR's buff philosophy of "well just add an endurance effect onto it". I REALLY enjoy needing an excel spreadsheet across 4 monitors and having a PHD in DBD perks to learn and know every perk with endurance and the timings of each of those and the activation effects and having to play around all of that. Very fun. Can't think why everyone has given up on M1 killers

@nsreturn1365

10 ай бұрын

imagine on bloodrush 3 myers cant catch you. XD no wonder why you see only ( go fast / teleport/ anti loop) killers who can end chases in 10 sec.

@Zen-db5pp

10 ай бұрын

@@nsreturn1365 And then theres the fucking Chess Merchant

@sanke_

10 ай бұрын

@@Zen-db5pp chess speaks for itself

@samuraituff9653

10 ай бұрын

Just play legion or something that makes them mend or bring fearmonger it always works they literally can't do anything about it and bring an op add on maybe and yeah

@ayinghazi8337

10 ай бұрын

We complained that we have to wait DH out, they fixed it by perks that can't get waited out . Even if you know the timings they're so long that it doesn't matter

this is the type of game you get sometimes as a killer and it makes you go nurse/blight/huntress instakill iris addon next couple of matches to compensate.

@LISTEEEEEN

10 ай бұрын

🤓

@roxanne8662

10 ай бұрын

my personal favourite is plaything wesker on midwich. easy 4ks to lighten my mood.

@misiek8071

10 ай бұрын

Ans that will cause that survivors want to play like this in next games. It is perpetum mobile of suffering in dbd. Pinhead enjoy.

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

I do that lol. If I lose on Twins and they are really toxic about it I will go Skull Merchant. I genuinely enjoy Skull Merchant and try my best not to hard defend gens but I will bring my totem defend build and absolutely murder with devour. I won’t feel sorry.

@TalonBrush

10 ай бұрын

Back in 2017 I said that this is essentially the cycle of DBD. In an over-simplification of how it goes: 1. Normal player runs into opposition that throws the kitchen sink at them. 2. The player feels frustrated and decides to bring the kitchen sink, themselves, for next match. 3. The player throws the kitchen sink, but they're not matched with the original opposition - they're matched against normal players who get crushed by the aforementioned kitchen sink. 4. The opposing players come out of the match frustrated and, like the original player, decide to get the kitchen sink for their next match. 5. Go back to step 1. It works for both roles and while it's not *exactly* how it goes (there are always those players who literally walked into the game and their first thought was "what can I run that is absolutely miserable for everyone else to go against?"), I still think this cycle happens in DBD. I guess what I'm trying to say is: the Pig really needs some nerfs.

I honestly admire how much dedication and commitment you have towards this game. You and Paulie really give this game a good name

@TheKeeperofChaos

10 ай бұрын

A much better name than it deserves tbh And Otz is double-y impressive for how little he gets involved in the drama or BHVR-bashing of the game, even when it's arguably deserved.

@LzGoofyCope

10 ай бұрын

@@TheKeeperofChaos and that's the biggest reason why, I commend him. He's so genuine

@OnePixelataTime

10 ай бұрын

This game doesn't have a good name to begin with, not much left to save really.

@LzGoofyCope

10 ай бұрын

@@OnePixelataTime who hurt you?

@BlackMetalGraffiti

10 ай бұрын

@@LzGoofyCopethis game did.

Clown looking down would ruin the immersion. I mean, if he looked down he'd only see belly anyway.

@Necronyan

10 ай бұрын

Yeah and players would have a hard time playing with one hand so it's better if you can not see it

@BraveBelievers

10 ай бұрын

@@Necronyandoes this do it for you, 🤡?

@Necronyan

10 ай бұрын

​@@BraveBelievers I mean, clussy is great, but noone ever talks about the jiggly clelly

They really have built the game to be a straight race to tunneling.

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

Tunneling wont even help you now with all those immunity perks lmao...If you arent lucky to tunnel one player out of the game before the last gen is done...Forget about it.

@MaliEndz

10 ай бұрын

@@BwanaLasPelotaskey is to find your victim early with corrupt active. Been doing it with knight. But we already know he is naturally good at tunneling and camping

@Josie.770

10 ай бұрын

This is why I've picked up bubba with Forced Hesitation and Infectious Fright. I'm hard camping every game

@dylanashryver1872

10 ай бұрын

@@Josie.770skill issue

@brysonemery9232

10 ай бұрын

Yep if you’re not playing nurse or blight, the only way to win is to hard tunnel right at the beginning of the game or have the survivors have like a third of the many hours as you

Survivors running at 103% and having buffed vaults sure is something. Fun for M1 Killers. Now imagine not having 10k hours in the game.

@Zakon673

10 ай бұрын

I'm not saying that Killer doesn't need some buffs right now, since M1 killers are definitely struggling, but please keep in mind that Otz is playing against what is likely a full SWF of high MMR survivors while he's playing a lower-mid tier killer with a weird randomized build (which includes Territorial Imperative, so only 3/4 of his perks do anything), and he's likely doing a winstreak in this video, so he's probably won numerous games in a row before this one. I hate MFT and Adrenaline but this video really shouldn't be used as an example of what the average killer experience is like. Imagine if he had just Jolt for example, all of those downs would have been gen regressions, that by itself could have swung the match in his favor. The survivors might have played differently and less greedy, though.

@Keyourasa

10 ай бұрын

@@Zakon673 i think its less about the wins tho and more about whats possible yea this isnt every game but its so annoying when it is a thing and realistically can only be done in a cordinated 4 stack. so its just rather shit to play against

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

This is what EVERY killer faces a lot of times with those perks plus others like OTR and DH and blind people still tries to claim this game is balanced or "killer sided", this is still happening after years. Survivors can do gens while injured without any danger to them, not only each survivor has 3 lives, they have all those perks to extend those lives by time AND hits...But devs still nerf killer perks because survivors doesnt want to make a little effort to win games

@jilujoilujiut2165

10 ай бұрын

How about you look at kill rates . The reason for these last few buffs . Every since the coh and medkit nerfs , killer kill rates have went up about 10 percent .

@WutTheDeuceGaming

10 ай бұрын

​​@@Zakon673the last time I played, I got 3 swfs in a row from the moment I booted the game up. Wtf you trying to defend this shit for? This isn't some outlier, this is the game and has been for a long time. This isn't some rare case, this is very common to see. This looked EXACTLY like a game I played during that stretch as Freddy on Midwich. Same perks being used, outside of a couple, but the main ones were there. Adren and MFT. Same shit happened.

The one map where you can carelessly drop pallets and face no consequence

@strike123456789

10 ай бұрын

That's every map as long as people sit on gens tbh

@hasanplaster1510

10 ай бұрын

This applies to nearly every map with normal rng as long as survivors works on gens every chance they got

@NameIsDoc

10 ай бұрын

Maybe alien can get a perk to fight this....yeah right

@imjustaguy1590

10 ай бұрын

@@strike123456789It is the only map without a single even semi unsafe pallet

@elmacho1336

10 ай бұрын

Right, that's why otz placed it on the "extremely survivor sided" tier on his map tier list... Except he didn't, he places it as more killer sided, because there are many consequences to dropping pallets on this map. This is one of the few maps where there are no good windows, or maybe one depending on the jungle gym rng, but point is this map only has its pallets to go by, and once they're gone, it's all deadzone. With a tiny amount of stall, this map goes from infuriating to play on into free downs every chase because all the pallets near the gens are gone so nobody can work on them safely. Playing the game like this, with your only focus on getting downs, most likely ends up losing the game, because you lose sight of the bigger picture and only focus on the heat of the chase you're in. You can see here, otz got tilted and neglected his gens, only putting any pressure on the final one, by which point it was too late.

And tbh the saddest part about it, is if you try to "play fair" and get rolled for it, they'll still t-bag at the exit gates (and staying over half of endgame collapse to do so). I try not to tunnel/camp because I don't enjoy doing it, even though it's a stupid play of me not to, and almost every game have people t-bagging regardless of how I played, what killer or perks, etc. Just adds insult to injury, and makes playing killer very frustrating/discouraging sometimes (especially for newer killers I’d imagine). My main killer is Trickster, and as much fun as I have playing him there is a NOTEABLE difference in how easy my games are as him vs. when I play a higher tier killer like Blight, Spirit, etc. Perks/games like this one just make the gap even larger sadly.

@lazlo686

10 ай бұрын

Well DBD has always been like this. It always will be. 1 player’s enjoyment and satisfaction vs 4. The devs understand the math. I loved this game but playing killer is too toxic and stressful. Win or lose some people are hellbent on making sure you feel miserable about it.

The 3% perma speed boost perk also has beast endurance attached to it for no reason. We see that this perk is too powerful at both chase and utility, making it a powerful all-purpose perk that disproportionately punishes killers with weaker chase powers. Therefore, we have taken the decision to nerf The Pig.

@CordyBrush

10 ай бұрын

And we also removed to Bloodpoint bonus from Distressing, it was too confusing to new players.

@tambutt9822

10 ай бұрын

@@CordyBrush That is like the least consequential change ever, no-one even uses Distressing.

@truthserum3050

10 ай бұрын

​@@tambutt9822I use it on wesker with infectious and star struck.

@DavidLeAsdf

10 ай бұрын

​@@tambutt9822makes it even funnier

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

@@tambutt9822that’s the whole point. It’s a joke?

I know people will always complain about what side they play, but I do feel like as of late killer has been getting a lot less enjoyable, particularly for M1 killers. Things like Buckle Up, Made for This, Hope, Adrenaline, and the new vault changes have definitely been hurting lower tier killers more than the higher tier ones. Makes deciding what to do really stressful too, now.

@DCPTF2

10 ай бұрын

the devs see the game as 4wallets vs 1wallet, they have to keep the most wallets happy and if that means killers quit they just add bots

@ZweaZy49

10 ай бұрын

And what about killer perks that makes the game less enjoyable for survivors? Like scourge hook: pain res, pop goes the weasel, sloppy butcher etc. ?

@Val-wg6mp

10 ай бұрын

@@ZweaZy49 2 of those got nerfed massively, and Sloppy, really? Why is sloppy annoying when you can tank 15 hits and run faster while injured?

@oliverhardy9464

10 ай бұрын

​​@@ZweaZy49 Pain Res got nerfed, Pop got nerfed, sloppy stayed the same but doesn't matter because people run faster with they are injured or bring resilience or extra hit perks. Don't you get that killers use gen slow down so they don't have to tunnel or at least have to tunnel less. If we don't have time for chases why would we want to play it fair? Back in the day when pop subtracted 25% from the total gen progress I didn't need 3 Gen perks, so I could spend time on chases. If I don't bring Gen defense, it means I have to tunnel more. Because people have more second chances or are faster in everything. That's just the way it is. Gen Speed Perks/toolboxes is exactly the same btw. If you cut down the time I have for chases, why should I bother with healthy survivors and not tunnel injured ones? Or why wouldn't I just run Killers that insta down or are just cracked

@Gravelordnito934

10 ай бұрын

​@@ZweaZy49it's still a 1v4 game at the end of the day

This is the unfortunate reason why players are punished for: not tunneling, not playing as a top tier killer, not using meta perks, and not using the best possible addons. I've had a ton of frustrating games like this one recently. I am just pretty much only playing blight rn because of it.

@dankmemes7796

10 ай бұрын

Ngl I’m sick of getting salt and hate for playing fair as a weak killer (pig ) like if I’m going to get hate , might as well actually do the things you accuse me of anyway .

@squeaks5677

10 ай бұрын

same tbh

@ZenubisSpyke

10 ай бұрын

You know it's gotten bad when survs generally don't even call out killers for tunneling right now. There's just no point, any killer not wanting to get stomped on is gonna do it

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

Well, that's not the only reason...As survivor you can just do gens injured and get barely any punishment for it with almost all killers. As survivor you have so many 2nd chance perks that you can just greed a gen to complete it in the killer's face and still escape because you also have more hook stages to be safe

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

@@dankmemes7796truuuue. Like damn I won’t slug you as Twins but if you keep running at the stationary Victor as I’m trying to Charlotte Shimmy my way over there to pick up and hook then don’t complain. I will purposefully slug you then lol.

It's weird how people say that the killer is the power role, but then I see survivor groups like this where there isn't an ounce of respect or fear of the killer in them because they know, for a fact, there isn't a single thing the killer can do to stop them.

@mattwoo556

10 ай бұрын

It’s a game, not being killed irl dumbass. There’s nothing scary or fearful in this game unless ur brand new

@MrDancyPantsTV

10 ай бұрын

@@milesbennettdyson555 It's not even that. With the mechanics of the game and certain combos of second chance and speed perks, there are literally moments when there is nothing the killer can actually do. When blinded by the flashlight, you don't know where you're actually looking, or if you're looking down enough until the blind is supposed to end. If it doesn't end, then the entire sequence starts again. The end of this video, where all four survivors were standing there body-blocking; they knew for an absolute fact that there was literally nothing Otz could do to them. There's no amount of "play better" that counters Hope+MFT for an end-game speed of 110% which literally matches many killers. Oh, Bloodlust kicked in? One fast vault solves that. Now add Teamwork: Power of Two for now 115% speed. Literally outrunning killers. Or perhaps it's an entire SWF loaded down with second chance perks because "play better" doesn't apply to survivors, just killers. And if the killer does happen to play better? Then comes the bitching about camping, tunneling, and/or slugging (whether any of that was done or not). If the killer does play by the survivor rulebook, the survivors will still stand at the gate to be toxic because they know that the killer can't do anything about it. It's not about "play better". It's literally that so many times the killer is completely powerless to do anything and it gets worse whenever survivor mains start crying loud enough.

@MrDancyPantsTV

10 ай бұрын

@milesbennettdyson555 I do, weirdly enough. My gripe isn't so much about winning or losing, but rather how how quickly the balance is tipped when you see the same perk on 3 or 4 survivors. I played against a SWF as Onryo and I literally couldn't catch them because of Made For This and Power Of Two. No amount of "getting better" would have made me faster, and all they did was hold W to a window. And when the last gen popped, and Hope kicked in as well, they were completely uncatchable and, being survivors, had to rub my face in it afterwards. But yeah, I'll just "get better". Thanks for the advice. What advice do you have for dealing with a 4-man SWF body blocking on the way to the gate like in this video, where it was literally impossible to down anyone? Or is that "get better" as well?

@qreamiepeanutbutter1215

10 ай бұрын

@@milesbennettdyson555And where’d you get that arbitrary statistic, asshat?

@christianmayer7432

10 ай бұрын

​@@milesbennettdyson555 Yeah, especially with a lower tier killer. This game is unbalanced and it is healthy to accept this fact - there is a reason that this game will never be be really competitive like League of Legends or Counter-Strike. You can always play better for sure, but this doesn't mean that the balancing issues are nonsense. Especially if you consider, that being a killer is far more difficult than being a survivor. And something is clearly wrong, if you just play Nurse, Blight etc. and neglect lower-tier killers.

I played a game of legion against people like this. They constantly played around me, double flashlighted me, never let me get a hook, somehow got gens done, and left without any issues. Guess what perks they were running...

@Yoshiinite

10 ай бұрын

There's always one gen Oompa Loompa in teams like that, that's the one you have to find and tunnel, without that gen rat, you win, i play Legion a lot too, do you use Thana? I used to hate going against it on survivor, but gens do go by really fast i think Thana on Legion is a must

@JadeIsPresent

10 ай бұрын

​@Yoshiinite I forget all the perk names lol but I made a vid with coup de grace which helped me quite a bit

Sometimes I'm like: It's odd to see you playing some other game besides DbD for once. And after seeing videos like these I remind myself exactly why you need a break. 😅

There really should be a perk notification (In the bottom right like what you get when you get hit by decisive) when you hit someone with endurance that tells you what perk gave them the effect. There are so many perks that now give endurance that if you're not an experienced player it becomes really hard to tell what's going on.

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

Yeah like if someone picks up and you hit them with endurance you don’t know if it’s made for this or buckle up. It would be nice to know if you could hit the person they healed. Of course they could also have WGLF on top of made for this but still

that david was the most obnoxious kind of survivor, the kind that plays to win until they have an advantage, then goes full gigacunt the second they realize they can piss off the killer and still escape

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

Well, that's the big majority of the survivor players (not counting the killer players who switched to play as survivor)...The sad part is they do it because they know they're safe, its the type of player that play as survivor because they want easy wins with barely any effort

@Sprachitektur

3 ай бұрын

@@BwanaLasPelotas delusional if you want easy wins you play killer obviously

@BwanaLasPelotas

3 ай бұрын

@@Sprachitektur lmao yeah you're 100% right

BHVR after seeing this vid: We noticed that made for this and the new fast vaults have been causing some problems, so we decided to nerf clown

@nthgod9318

10 ай бұрын

*pig

@Kaboomy1210

10 ай бұрын

"We have decided that we were a little harsh on the killer's last patch, so we have decided to remove the pig."

@nekit0420

10 ай бұрын

@@nthgod9318 "We felt like we were being too repetitive with our previous patches, so we decided to nerf clown this time"

@spycrabxt

10 ай бұрын

They actually nerfed him recently by big fizzing his pov and it screws with his bottle placements and visibility

@DeputyFish

10 ай бұрын

@@spycrabxt they also buffed him because he's currently bugged where his intoxication last longer on survivors. (if you dont use the intoxication addon, that fixes it to be 3.5 seconds without its about 5-6 seconds)

It's one thing to lose... It's another to feel utterly powerless and get absolutely defeated.... This was painful to watch

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

That's why you see a lot of complaints of killer players...Yet devs always listen only to the majority of the community, which ironically is the one that made this game very unbalanced and this video is just another one to the very long list of proof...

@edar8881

10 ай бұрын

Huh? There are killers who have insta down and are extremely faster than survivors. These same killers will tunnel or facecamp to win. This arguement is like the worst killer vs the best survivor which makes no sense. I've seen the Cenobite hold a match hostage simply because they either found the box repeatedly or knew where to focus. Whereas I saw another Cenobite player just get looped for days. Point is, use the correct perks (or perks that make sense) for the playstyle of the killer, the survivors have no playstyle since they all play the same way its just comms.

@Bannith

10 ай бұрын

@@edar8881 That's the problem bro... it's even mentioned by Otz. Why play a weak killer or a fun one when 90% of the time your putting yourself at a major disadvantage to the point if the survivors are good you have a massive loss chance. Why do you think so many people play hyper consistent killers like Wesker? While simultaneously taking broken perks and addons? Are you as a survivor going to take lackluster perks and play for fun? Most people would say no because "The killer won't so why should I?". That ends us up here where people consistently pick and abuse broken perks/items/killers because BHVR refuses to balance the problematic parts of the game and keeps power creeping different things. The nerf to DH was suppose to reduce the broken effects of second chance perks but instead we have ended up with even more second chance perks that are very capable. While also getting things like Made For This that make loops that were previously impossible or at least difficult possible or easy.

@exitoz1396

10 ай бұрын

​@@edar8881 Survivor main crying about tunneling etc lol. It's been 7 years just let ppl play how they want retard

@justmonika2345

10 ай бұрын

@@edar8881 A lot of it comes down to player skill. If the survivors you are matched with are evenly your skill level, then the match is going to be sweaty for you. Sounds like that Cenobite was just simply better than the survivors. If the killer is better than the survivors, then the game is in their control.

This is why most of us don't even bother playing as Killer is too stressful for no reason not even winning feels good sometimes, this isn't healthy

@deathmetalhellokitty9724

10 ай бұрын

It's only stressful if you make it that way . I've been playing dbd for 5 years. People always want what's easy unfortunately but not me . Dbd should not be easy ever . If people want easy they should play animal crossing

@gothbave2

10 ай бұрын

@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 yeah i bet it's not frustrating at all seeing what otz showed us in this video 90% of the time

@deathmetalhellokitty9724

10 ай бұрын

@@gothbave2 that's why we should all become nurse mains . Make survivors suffer for their actions and abusing perks . Or my personal favorite basement Bubba

@gothbave2

10 ай бұрын

@@deathmetalhellokitty9724 you do you bro, i'm glad u don't lose any match we aren't the same then, enjoy all endurance perks

@MasterMike_

10 ай бұрын

​@@deathmetalhellokitty9724weirdo

Its so frustrating watching otz get looped on the same pallet for 3 minutes instead of just breaking it

Made for this has really become one of my most hated perks as killer. AS IF a 3% speedboost wasnt good enough on its own

@strikervx4435

10 ай бұрын

Literally worse than dead hard. Most buffoons waste it after you do a bit of baiting. MFT is just free 'fuck you' to killers who managed to get a hit by rewarding the survivor with 0 downside. Plus the tank a hit after healing bullshit.

@esseubot

10 ай бұрын

As a survivor player mainly, I also kinda don't like the existence of MFT, imo it is such a braindead good perk that it restricts most looping builds.

@zeanwang1692

10 ай бұрын

I don't understand why the restriction is this low compare to other perks which gains haste. Think about Dark Theory which gives only 2% of haste with totem and range restrictions

@fabiopauli420

10 ай бұрын

@@zeanwang1692 i think the idea was that if you have an instadown killer the perk become effectively a dead slot however how many instadown killers are currently actually viable? Lmao

@BowserStrange

10 ай бұрын

You know you have ways of exhausting the survivor to completely make that perk useless👀 it’s not like eruption with no counter play.

Playing as killer too much in dbd turns you into a killer in real life.

@RtsFps1

10 ай бұрын

Ayo?

@jwduckpaddle

10 ай бұрын

sus

@googane7755

10 ай бұрын

I don't doubt that considering how degenerates are in this community

@dmitrivologoslav

10 ай бұрын

fr i got at least 12 victims now 😂

@ll-rq5vu

10 ай бұрын

🥶🥶🥶

The classic feeling of getting outperked and not outplayed.. one of the reasons why i don't take dbd "serious" anymore :)

This is what happens when you try to play nice, I've been unapologetically tunneling/camping and having a blast! I even tied against a team like this.

@daultrak1ller

10 ай бұрын

fr, i legit play rigorous killer every match

@TheKrueger1428

10 ай бұрын

Or get good? If you need to camp and tunnel, you're trash. End of story.

@shaniquejefferson

10 ай бұрын

But people have been camping and tunneling way before these changes. I don't really understand it. These two strategies have been here since the beginning. They would really have to change the core game to get rid of everything killer mains and survivor mains complain about. Just get rid of the hooking and gens altogether and give us all new objectives. They could learn a thing or two about texas chainsaw massacre at this point.

@daultrak1ller

10 ай бұрын

@@shaniquejefferson what does TCM do differently though? i haven’t really played that

@vibezonegaming

10 ай бұрын

Bro literally said he had to tunnel at the beginning. Lmao. Playing nice. You’re funny.

I felt your pain in this so much...had so many matches like this. It is a small consolation to know that this kind of shit happens, even to someone who plays as well as Otz.

This is the feeling I avoid when choosing to not hit the play killer button

I love seeing your precision with the yellow bottle set ups! It always reminds me that Clown is a way more intricate killer than he seems.

It's games like these where meta nurse build looks reeeeal tempting. These survivors really just contribute to the desire to avoid just for fun builds and go sweaty try hard for a few matches just to get some wins in.

@livi2125

10 ай бұрын

why wouldnt survivors run the top meta perks rn tho? theyre extremely good so why should they consider running anything other then those perks? i dont think we should blame survs for running these perks but the devs for allowing the meta & current updates to be so punishing to m1 killers. and honestly with the builds these survs have, u dont even have to sweat in ur matches w them, theyre just so good it basically gives ez escapes most of the time

@hereandnow3156

10 ай бұрын

@@livi2125 I should have clarified I don't blame survivors for running meta perks, I mean these survivors specifically make people want to avoid having fun builds because of the teabagging and bm when they know they can get away with so much because the meta is so broken.

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

​@@livi2125Because survivor is so easy to win as that you can go without any perks and still win with all gens done and at least one player escaping through the exit gates?

@livi2125

10 ай бұрын

@@hereandnow3156 yeah i agree

@davidszabo820

10 ай бұрын

@@livi2125 But on the other hand these survivors cry because of camp/tunnel... :D

Always remember that Coup de Grace was nerfed before it came on the live server when you see stuff like that going on

@j3rm3rks37

10 ай бұрын

Lol I remember. Somehow 100% lunge increase with a maximum of 5 stacks is somehow more problematic to the devs than MFT...

@DarkLegacy636

10 ай бұрын

@@j3rm3rks37 and think that they nerfed it to be only 60% when it came out Also remember for the devs the Hook grabs are more problematic then the Heal techs or the insta Vault after a fall...tech

@jilujoilujiut2165

10 ай бұрын

Well it was buffed last patch , havent seen any killer mains mentioning how you can hit survivors 8 feet over the double window on main building on swamp now .. but you can .

@WutTheDeuceGaming

10 ай бұрын

​​@@DarkLegacy636just more proof the dev team are a bunch of survivors. Imagine taking away the one thing killers had against bully squads swarming the hook. You make a great point there. I some times forget how fucking busted those survivor "techs" are. They're more exploits than anything imo. The heal tech pisses me off, like why does it exist? It looks and feels more stupid than any hook grab ever did. That was their reasoning behind the hook grab removal btw. You could say the same about heal teching.

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

@@DarkLegacy636my issue is removing hook grabs AND having the anti camp thing. It’s literally gonna be impossible to guarantee a kill in end game.

This is how lesser skilled killers feel 90% of their matches.

@Ocktay

10 ай бұрын

Which can be applied in every others games that have pvp.

@incendium447

10 ай бұрын

@@Ocktayno because those games have a larger beginner player base to make matchmaking do its job.

@TomiPapz

10 ай бұрын

DBD is easily the worst game for beginners 😂

@renulence7247

10 ай бұрын

​@@TomiPapz clearly you've never played league

@Ocktay

10 ай бұрын

@@incendium447 So whose fault is it, the game for having a niche gameplay that makes few people want to play it or players who should play it even if the gameplay does not please them? If you compare games like dota, league of legend, cs which have 150k+ players i agree with you, but the majority of pvp games have the same playerbase as dead by daylight or even less "25K players being quite resonable". So as i said the worst players will be the people who will spend their time being rolled over regardless of the game, with the exception of triple A games with an enormous playerbase where they can sort it out quite easily.

I took a break from DbD because of Uni after last year's anniversary event. Logging back in during this year's anniversary event to find that somehow Behaviour found a way to give survivors a perk just as broken as old Dead Hard was enough for me to log right back out. I'm here to relax and have fun, not detonate my eyes via increased blood pressure.

@samuraituff9653

10 ай бұрын

What perk was broken as dead heard what are you talking about

@Mike-lz7rg

10 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 made for this

@juliusaurelius9815

10 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 probably made for this

@mcmeister9754

10 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 Made for this probably

@samuraituff9653

10 ай бұрын

@@juliusaurelius9815 that perk is ok I mean against faster killers it does nothing and if they have some mending or fearmonger exhaustion perks I'm useless

Consequences off the absolute butchering that healing got. Why waste the time when it takes so long. Adrenaline and endurance effects became more appealing and encourages staying on gens while injured.

This is sad because sometimes I play games like this, everytike I'm playing killer I get great survivors or swfs but when I play survivor my team are filled with people who do nothing

@TDaOO

10 ай бұрын

Happened to me yesterday. Played surv, lost 3 times back to back against D tier killers on good maps because team just sandbagged and hook traded. Second I play killer I get trashed on

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

The irony of this game...Somehow when a killer plays as survivor, they get paired with braindead people who dont now how to hold left click.

@AmyLovesYou

10 ай бұрын

Imagine complaining about going against SWFs as killer not being up to par with your solo queue experience playing survivor. You want a similar result? Make a SWF. Duh...

My spanish father feeds me with entertainment once again

DBD can be so frustrating at times. I feel your pain on this one

Keep in mind than, when I started to play this game like 2 years ago, keeping in touch with every perk already sounded like a challenge for a casual player

I LOVE how adrenaline has BOTH an added health state AND haste when it first gets proc'd. This surely isn't two perks for the price of one

@jilujoilujiut2165

10 ай бұрын

Its also a perk you may never fuckin use . All the people that complain about that perk complain when it works . The 20 games you run it were it does nothing but waste a slot , its fine then .

@clocked0

10 ай бұрын

@@jilujoilujiut2165 Many perks have conditions like that, for example, deliverance. It doesn't change that adrenaline itself is really obnoxious to play against. It should either give a person a great deal of haste entering the endgame, or it should heal a health state. It should not do both. Let adrenaline give a health state and rely on hope for the haste, it would still extend the chase long enough that with decent coordination somebody being chased could still get out through the exit gate. It just wouldn't be so ridiculous that it gives that free escape WITHOUT that coordination/good bodyblocks If it gives only a great deal of haste it has less utility since every injured person still has to heal, but that's something they should be doing throughout the game regardless. But even then, should still extend the chase long enough that a bodyblock could be organised to allow the person to escape

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

​@@jilujoilujiut2165 If you cant do all gens as survivor then its a skill issue from your part...And that's a lot to say when its extremely easy to do gens.

@WutTheDeuceGaming

10 ай бұрын

​@@jilujoilujiut2165yeah because getting to the end game really should be rewarded that heavily. The fact it some times doesn't do anything doesn't take away the fact it's obnoxious and fucking stupid.

@clocked0

10 ай бұрын

@@BwanaLasPelotas TBF that depends on the killer being played and how many slowdown perks they are running. It's just really obnoxious to miss out on a kill as an M1 killer not because I couldn't have downed them before they could escape, but because adrenaline's haste in combination with hope, and on top of the additional health state, made it impossible for me to possibly catch up to down them before they made it to the gate. It's just too much. It feels like they are literally carried by their perks rather than their skill at the game

And after this game , otz play a meta killer , with meta strategy and meta build for rest of his life....

Whenever I play killer, I get ROLLED and all the gens are done right away. When I play survivor, my teammates never do any gens and constantly die. I just can't have fun on Dead by Daylight anymore.

@stanosbourne8825

9 ай бұрын

Same. I am not the only one with thus, I guess. 😊

Hard-core survivor mains would watch this and still say the game is killer sided 😂

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

It is killer sided...Otz got how many hooks? 6/7? Killers's shouldnt have any hooks untill all gens are done and we survivor mains will decide if we allow them to have a hook stage!

@deadmemories26

10 ай бұрын

@BwanaLasPelotas You had me at the beginning there I'm not gonna lie 🤣

You know this game is strange, every now and then a change happens and it gives birth to more nurse mains. I became a nurse main after insta-blind flashlights were added, when we were told to go play civ... Makes you wonder how many nurse mains were born from this.

It’s wild to me people try to argue it’s not survivor sided. You’re literally forced to play certain killers with certain add ones in order to stand a chance against a swf.

i main wesker since his release and has never been more grateful for him being very strong. i started playing him because of his silly voicelines and memes, i went through survivors tanking my crossmap bound hits with dead hard, i endured off the record meta, BNPs, but haste perks these days drive me insane. it's sad that the only way for you to keep up is to use strongest perks, addons and even killers yourself. i feel bad for every demo, clown, pig, myers mains and so on

@anarkerry8621

10 ай бұрын

I actually do better with Demo than most other M1s. He's got shred and a decent port since you have control over the portals. I think survivors are starting to realize that all of these 3 and 4 man escapes are going to be noticed in the stats. I noticed last night that survivors negan intentionally throwing after finishing the gens.

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

Demo isn’t that bad. I always say he is like, the definition of a balanced killer. Not 🙂 not 🙁 just 😐

@Baby-Blue-102

10 ай бұрын

@@anarkerry8621 PLEASE tell me this Isn't actually a thing. I've heard a lot of survivor bullshit but if their actually Both Intellegent and Apathetic enough to actually do that then thats actually Crazy.

@anarkerry8621

10 ай бұрын

@@Baby-Blue-102 It is. Survivors throw after gens all the time to avoid giving BHVR real data. Something crazy like 70% of all sacrifices happend after the final gen.

@Baby-Blue-102

10 ай бұрын

@@anarkerry8621 and were sure that's not the killers catching up right at the end?

Insanely unfortunate to not have lucked into any slowdown perks this game, I feel like even Corrupt could've helped soften this match up.

I really don’t like Adrenaline. It’s not the fact of what it does, but rather what affect it has on survivors. When you have adrenaline, you won’t heal and will greed gens so you get instant healing. Tied with the fact multiple people can have this perk and it’s a free win in a lot of cases when all gens are finished. The game only really starts at 2 gens so I don’t know a fix for helping with this perk and giving it a similar affect to hope, but I’m sure something could help

@YJL186

10 ай бұрын

I’ve always said adrenaline is kind of broken due to the fact that teams can stack perks in general. You are 100% right about players playing greedy. When multiple people bring adrenaline it allows for such greedy gameplay that can’t get punished in a lot of cases. There isn’t much you can do when multiple people have adrenaline. It completely nullifies anything the killer can do in that stage of the game for the most part. The value of the perk is pretty crazy in general but playing against a team of adrenaline is just brutal. It saves them a ton of time, allows for free hit taking, instantly healed off hook, brings them up from being slugged, and of course the big sprint burst that can end chases immediately. Now just think 4 players can have this. Crazy.

@catches07

10 ай бұрын

To be fair, if you don't like Adrenaline, you can just run Terminus and that will hurt the survivors hard.

@captainjobber3284

10 ай бұрын

​@@catches07Putting on Terminus to counter potential Adrenalines in your games is equivalent to playing with 3 perks. They still get the speed boost from Adrenaline and it's not like the gates can't be opened fast or other teammates can't be healthy to take hits before last gen pops.

@YJL186

10 ай бұрын

@@catches07 that doesn’t sound like a bad idea but the value of Adrenaline isn’t completely nullified. It isn’t worth taking an endgame perk that doesn’t counter 100% of it.

@catches07

10 ай бұрын

@@captainjobber3284 No Way Out

It's no wonder the killer role almost always has the bp boost. Even better, whenever the survivors would have the bp boost, it's only 50% and not 100%. Been awhile since I seen survivors with the 100% bp boost.

@kickinwang1817

10 ай бұрын

Was 100% literally yesterday

@leiah6514

10 ай бұрын

Before Cage went live for a long time it was always 100% survivor for me (outside of like post 5pm prime time). Nowadays I agree. Reminds me of when Eruption got it’s buff with Pain Res as strong as it was, but reversed. They just love overbuffing things and hard nerfing others instead of balance.

@leiah6514

10 ай бұрын

@@darkchicken7389 I don’t mean just before Cage dropped, I mean all the way since 6.1 up to Cage. You’re definitely not wrong, but my point was in response to OP saying it’s always been killer BP boost when it’s just not true outside of prime time. Wasn’t really to indicate it as a point of balance, especially with new patches and reworks being fresh. I hope the BP bonus is 100% survivor when Alien comes out, been asking for it for ages and hope we see more variety outside of Wesker.

I really appreciate Otz not having a big ego and actually posting games where things are not going so well. It helps me realise that i don't suck at the game as much as I think . that sometimes, bad games happen even to great killers like him. ❤

dont be mad otz, just remember what otz says in the map tier list, "the game is a killer sided map, just break the pallets"

Made for This is absolutely painful, I really hope devs take in consideration a nerf/rework

@BwanaLasPelotas

10 ай бұрын

News flash: They wont. Until something from the survivor side gets problematic for their "stats", devs will keep broken stuff to give survivors more easy games

"Killer is the easiest it's ever been." - survivor mains

@widmo550

10 ай бұрын

I see those comments literally all time XD, 4k all time etc..

I got pretty irritated yesterday with DbD. Toba's Landing as Wraith against this exact kind of team, and the game kept auto aiming to one of the 8 bajillion pieces of environment rather than a Survivor. Play Survivor and I get the teammates who are scared of the fart from the Killer varried on the wind, play Killer and all I get are stacked Survivor teams. Really wish I could see my MMR

This is why I haven’t played since the anniversary event. Every match feels so sweaty now, it’s been more stressful than fun lately. I’ll definitely come back for the Alien chapter though.

I'm glad Otz puts out these videos that show that he, too, has bad games, gets tilted, etc. Totally normal response to a match like this. It is pretty nutty how many perks give Endurance in current DBD, where before it was basically just BT and Soul Guard.

The worst things with endurance when people get revive on the ground i never know if it's new buckle up or mft when someone take a hit with endurance

@SeverTheWeak

10 ай бұрын

If Bhvrs smart the secondary effect of MFT shouldn't be a thing much longer. Perk doesn't need a secondary effect at all.

@elmacho1336

10 ай бұрын

Surely because MFT speed boost is so op you can always tell if a survivor has it right? 3% is a huge increase and it makes catching survivors impossible so it should be really easy to tell if they have MFT because of that?

@XenoVT

10 ай бұрын

@@elmacho1336you actually CAN tell when a survivor has MFT lol it's pretty obvious when they do. You can feel the difference.

@Josie.770

10 ай бұрын

​@@elmacho1336You can definitely tell. Especially if you're playing a 110 killer

@elmacho1336

10 ай бұрын

@@XenoVT I've seen countless players and content creators start complaining about the MFT speed only for the survivor they were getting angry at to not have any speed boost at all. MFT has made it so that anytime you don't make something as killer you have something to blame, regardless of whether it mattered or was even present in the first place. You can tell, but it's so slight that you'll only notice if you're on a very common tile and know how much distance you need to catch up in normal circumstances.

Once I was playing nemesis and each survivor I hit had endured the hit. I thought I was playing legion because all the people mending after the hits

At this point I respect Otz so much for not leaving this game. Playing through this bullshit I would've rage quit and went on to play something else 3 times during this game. It's literally sad that all of my games ever since the nerfs to almost all good killer perks are like this. This is not enjoyable anymore

Thanks OZT for sharing this game, I just uninstalled last week since I felt hopeless in two back to back games and now I am trying again to see if I have better luck :)

Hoenstly, those kinds of perks are what's killing my will to play killer lately. Quite honestly, some of these needs a bit of a tweak to make them not as annoying to face. And before anyone says anything else, I play both sides almost 50/50. I understand frustrations on both sides of the game, and believe that even some killer perks need a little bit of a nerf (or buff some that are completely useless).

@hazelnutspeanuts2727

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. We're almost back to a similar times of survivors bringing Dead Hard, Borrowed Time, Decisive Strike, Unbreakable, however that's a lot worse than what we have currently, thankfully.

@ZweaZy49

10 ай бұрын

And what about killer perks that makes the game less enjoyable for survivors? Like scourge hook: pain res, pop goes the weasel, sloppy butcher etc. ?

@fredward_3713

10 ай бұрын

@@hazelnutspeanuts2727 Not by far though, we don't have the perk combos that work that efficiently, consistently and well together anymore as with that combo

@remnant518

10 ай бұрын

@@ZweaZy49 As I said, there are some killer perks that need some tweaking as well. But in my most recent games on both sides of the games, I find myself more frustrated when I play killer than when I play Survivor.

@fblio7146

10 ай бұрын

The worst part is 8:04 - with new hope and made for this, if you play the "power role", you have to expect to loop a tiny structure 8 times to catch up to the looper, in a 1v4.

I've been a killer main for like 6 years and idk how much longer I can go on bruh it literally feels like they are constantly creating more and more situations where I am absolutely helpless against whatever the survs are doing. Plus the general toxicity I receive from them on a game to game basis. The only thing really keeping me playing is new killers but even still it's just getting so rough. I'm sure someone will say "skill issue" or whatever but i find it hard to believe that playing the game for 6 years made me worse at it.

@petersfilmstudios24

10 ай бұрын

I don't play killer as much anymore because of things like this. And then when I do switch to killer I can't even run any gen defence perks because I have to run things like light born, mad grit, etc just counter counter bully squads like this one

@renamamiya3190

10 ай бұрын

​@@petersfilmstudios24"bully squads" lol just take the L and move on your not entitled to a win and neither are survivors but calling people bullies when they are doing the same as you (playing the game) you just sound like a salty baby who didn't kill as many people as you wanted.🤡🤡🤡

@XenoVT

10 ай бұрын

I still play killer, but I play the game in it's entirety extremly casually now, it is better for my mental health, only thing even keeping me here now is the singularity and now the Alien announcement.

@Gencinnamon245

10 ай бұрын

@@XenoVT yeah The best thing to do at this point when to play Killer is by playing with a casual mindset

@surinaam1186

10 ай бұрын

Completely ignore the fact that otz made about a 100 mistakes in this video that ended up costing him the game. Killers would like to be able to play like shit and 4k every single game. That's what it comes down to.

how i like about Otzdarva is that even though hes insane at the game , he uploads videos where hes getting destroyed so that we can learn, love u otz

Who would've thought adding 500 endurance and haste effects to perks would end up killing the game

petition to make a killer perk that gives you haste for merely existing, survivors think mft is fair so surely they’d think a killer with mft would be fair right? they could change fire up to give you 1-2% haste when every gen is completed.

@Mercer526

10 ай бұрын

I'd be down for a 1% boots per gen. I'd rock that on legion with BFFs, Noed, and pwyf for the fastest endgame you've ever seen

@aegislight5996

10 ай бұрын

"forgets bloodlust exist" lol Like what was Otz expecting playing clown on the game first of all + running bad perks against presumably a swf with good perks? Same thing would happen the other way around

@r_c1

10 ай бұрын

@@aegislight5996 yes let’s waste 30-45 seconds to get to blood lust 3, idk how long it exactly takes but if you’re going for blood lust 3 you are actively throwing the game, meanwhile as survivor all you need to do is get injured which is basically free. also did otz bring the game offering? if he did then yeah idk why he played clown, but if he didn’t then that’s not really his fault.

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

Fire up should give 1% per gen finished, not even at the end. If a 3%-10% haste at endgame is “balanced” then a 5% haste isn’t that broken.

@widmo550

10 ай бұрын

​@@r_c1tbh i would remove bloodlust for 7.5% basekit more speed

If this doesn't show how strong the pallets are on Gideon, then I don't know what will. Killers like Clown don't have many options on this map if the survivors know anything about spacing, which these guys clearly did. Notice how they called out your position to their teammates way earlier so they knew what direction you were always coming from. You never once could get the drop on them.

I honestly think this can all be traced back to the healing nerf. Zero incentive to heal up/reset, AND amazing perks that make you run at unholy speeds while injured? Oh yeah, resilience + made for this is staying on my survivor perk roster. As for killer, surprisingly Huntress has been working for me. Then again, Otz and I have wildly different MMRs.

I stopped playing this game but I've heard that survivors are now allowed to run at ~4.4 permanently with hope + the new perk. ... What were the developers thinking?

In the opposite end, I just try to have unique builds, and get tunneled out because I don't bring endurance perks, and teammates don't finish heals because Sloppy Butcher + too afraid to commit. Having your generators Jolted 24/7 and and having effective No Mither is just a pain, made even worse when the player on the other side is focused on not allowing you to even play the game. And the other survivors do not help. 3 Meg heads just running around with flashlights and not getting a single save, or worse, unhooking me in front of the killer, despite them clearly tunneling is just the best.

And people wonder why every other killer they see is Wesker

I feel your pain, I've also tilted so hard on occasion to such successive frustrations. :< Sometimes, their perks and builds just stack so perfectly to counteract absolutely everything...

I think the thing I understand his frustrations on is that the game is a game of chance nowadays not particularly about skill. He’s put thousands of hours into this game but that almost means nothing when u have a lobby like this. The game is all about “who has the better stack” as well as “who will make the luckier decisions” you can’t beat chance. That’s the thing. But people will rub it in your face that they’re better when skill has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Ok so maybe I will get some hate for this. I absolutely understand Otz frustration here and have had my own very tough games and they were definitely using some crazy strong perks. It is worth mentioning though, that Otz went against a sweaty SWF, with meta perks, on a very pallet happy map. While playing Clown, a pretty rough M1 killer if people know how to play against him, with an assortment of random perks. None of which really helped all that much. I am not sure what, even with an extremely good killer like Otz, an endgame is supposed to look like other than this. They were apparently very good and played well for the most part. Seems pretty reasonable with all of the handicaps Otz had that it ended this way unfortunately. ☹

This is why I feel as playing killer tunneling is especially important or else I know when the gen pops I’m trying to hunt 110% survivors that have jet engines on their feet

@Shuffles_Art

10 ай бұрын

Fr like people get so mad at me when I “tunnel” but like I’m literally scrounging for kills nowadays with how damn impossible it is to actually catch and hook players 💀

@UncreativeHandle48

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@Shuffles_Artit’s not “tunnelling” it’s hook rushing.

@Gencinnamon245

10 ай бұрын

@@UncreativeHandle48plus it’s pretty much a necessity to hook people in order to pip/rank up

@samuraituff9653

10 ай бұрын

Well if I get tunneled I don't care anymore I do it as killer so it doesn't matter but If you're tunneling at 5 gens or 4 even depending on the situation 3 you're not a good person and if I escape t bagging

@Gencinnamon245

10 ай бұрын

@@samuraituff9653 exactly this I usually camp or tunnel at the endgame but definitely not early game

Made for this feels like such a gaslight perk. Just feel like im going crazy with how often im in bloodlust now and the pallets they make that they normally don't

It's amazing how, despite the game being objectively better than it was 7 years ago, it always has big glaring issue that makes it incredibly unfun, and when those issues are patched, new ones show up. This game really suffers from being old, every one knows how to play it now, and this game really doesn't know what to do with knoledgeable players. I still really enjoy this game when I hop into my smurf and both killers and survivors are bad, people hide, killers don't max prioritize gens, chases end quickly or they don't, but almost all of those games are chill, and fun.

The game simply isn't balanced for certain killers. You think you can have fun or do something off-meta, or try to chill with some archive challenges, but no. You get games like this. Incredibly frustrating matches where you could be playing out of your mind and still get destroyed even if you make the best decision you possibly can at each moment.

Yep. Been seeing this way too much recently. I mostly play Demogorgon and I give up pretty early on because of this. (I'm casual, I mostly don't run meta perks as Killer) It's just not fun. I mean use what you want, but most SWF's like this do it to intentionally make your experience terrible. I hate going against a team that has Buckle Up, Made For This, Adrenaline, and Unbreakable or Soul Gaurd. Too many second chances, it's just irritating to go against when every survivor is using it in a match. I don't mind if one person is using it, but if the whole team uses these just to harass you with them, it's just the most painful stuff ever. This is one of the biggest things I hate about PVP games. When someone finds something broken, everyone's gotta use it to harass the other side with it, either to win, or to make the other person wanna give up on the game entirely and ruin their day. No one really plays for fun or casually anymore. I'll occasionally get survivors with perks that aren't a pain to go against like Head-On for example. Just perks that don't fully guarantee anything for you, but are still fun to use and can be a bit helpful too. It does require timing and patience with Head-On. Like Head-On isn't gonna guarantee you a health state or endurance, it has limits and usually only works once. I don't mind people using these perks, they're in the game and they're meant to be used. But it draws the line when an entire team uses them to nearly guarantee a win or to harass the absolute hell out of the killer. That's just not fun and it's mean. This to me is what bullying is and looks like in DBD. And then you'll have killers who give into it, and do the samethings back but to the wrong group most of the time. A circle of bullies.

Just played dbd after 2 yearish break (last chapter i remember is Nemesis) i’ve always been a survivor main who occasionally played Huntress. But i have been watching you lately a lot and decided to give this game (killers to be more specific) another chance, i picked Nemesis with some decent perks, yellow addons and the game went well. I had fun on gideon had a 3k with giving the hatch to the last person. No meta builds, only 2 swfs who played just together for fun and not to sweat. So i got into another game as a second time nemesis and i got a 3 man (possibly 4) squad with 2 flashlights 1 toolbox 1 medkit, full meta perks on the Swamp… The way you dont lose composure is astonishing, much respect and love to you Otz

This shit is so frustrating. It feels like the game is putting you in an impossible situation with no counter play where every attempt to do anything just loses time while survivors get 4 health states.

I'm lowkey concerned about where they are heading with perk design direction tbh. First we get made for this which is practically free haste just for existing, then we get dramaturgy which is basically a mini on demand sprint burst? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying dramaturgy is op, but the fact still remains it is FREE haste with little to no downside and haste is one of the top three, if not top two, best things you can use. It feels like they are starting to make haste much more free and available when it shouldn't be and it lowkey has me worried for future perks. On the upside however, with my free haste perks i can loop killers twice as long now for what would have been only about 50% of the effort and practice i put into the game kek.

Its hard to enjoy this game cause sometimes it feels like everyone is playing like their ex is on the other team.

Imagine a horror game where the person being chased is basically super-man for a Infinite amount of time 😂😂😂

It's gotten so bad now that I barely play anymore. 90% of my lobbies have at least one survivor over P60 (My highest is 2 or 3, and my total is probably around 20.) This happens even when I'm playing a killer under level 30, so I spend half an hour looking for a reasonable game, and then get destroyed anyway. Sometimes I lose motivation and quit before I even find a match. The only I'm still somewhat consistent with is Knight, but I find him boring to play. I try knew builds and strategies on every killer in the game and they never work. I even tried using the knowledge I gained from your video on how Nemesis's tentacle works, and despite understanding it I found it very difficult to use, especially when ping was an issue. I don't know what to do at this point in DBD, and right now there are several other games I'd rather play. Here's hoping it gets better.

Adren not getting nerfed is insane to me. And the fact MFT even made it out of PTB proves the devs are Survivor sided.

This genuinely feels like every game im playing now

@justmonika2345

10 ай бұрын

@@iakwnshusu Assumption of his MMR

I had a game recently like this. I had no idea buckle up was buffed. I was extremely confused until I reread the perk in the end game. What a nuts meta this is

8:07 Nailed it. And some people think Killer is the power role. Thanks for the video Otz.

Its like the devs had this all planned - we’ll make healing for survivors harder with nerfs to med-kits, CoH, Self Care, etc - we’ll also give survivors multiple perks that give them extra health states They’re a crafty bunch over at BHVR

@samuraituff9653

10 ай бұрын

Fearmonger looking very good rn

@TheNateCast

10 ай бұрын

If I was a survivor main I'd be begging for more nerfs if that is what comes afterwards.

@GoldenDeer_

10 ай бұрын

Honestly with all the second chance perks they should revert the healing changes back to how they were at the start of that ptb

I honestly don't mind going against strong perks since all in all you can bring them too, however this community can't just take a W and be a good sport about it (or just leave), they HAVE to rub it on the killer as if their 17 second chances didn't allow them to make mistake after mistake after mistake and get carried by their perks in the end anyway. People can bring strong perks, just don't get cocky after tanking 3 different endurance hits and then going to full health because the last gen popped, some people really forget the difference between being carried by perks and actual skill

@stolen_light3751

10 ай бұрын

Ok but equally, don't choose to play a weak killer with random perks that end up being trash and then complain that you're losing

@krabby3834

10 ай бұрын

​@@stolen_light3751blud really didn't even read the ops message before spewing shit, L take

@Val-wg6mp

10 ай бұрын

@@stolen_light3751 7:22 - 2 people hooked, 1 on the ground, 1 injured. 7:41: 2 people healthy, 2 injured. This seems normal to you?

@AceOf_Diamonds_

10 ай бұрын

@@stolen_light3751 Bro really said "I ain't reading that but imma complain either way" you basically described the issue I stated in my comment. Otz lost not because a lack of skill, but because survivors had so many second chances that they could do as many mistakes as they wanted without consequences. And now comes the hypocrisy of if were Otz be playing a stronger killer with strong perks, a lost would have been a "skill issue", or have he had a perk like Noed, Deadlock, or things to come back from a lost game, it would have been "omg another game carried by a stupid perk like Noed" "Play meta or STFU" is the root of the problem in this community, a community that turned a party game into something competitive

@XenoVT

10 ай бұрын

Ah to go back to the day of the first meta shake up and see their true skill show, and expose just how bad they really are without their crutches.

I'm alwats thinking at the end of my killer games... "These survivors could really use some more endurance perks."

I used to like running perkless/minimal help when playing killer but after MFT and the Buckle Up/FTP stuff it’s kinda hard to enjoy the game like I used to before, I would have down to the wire matches and even if survivors escaped it was still a fun match. Now its either I finish the game off with 3/4 gens left or I get rolled, no in between. People get very altruistic and get downed/slugged and the game just kinda ends like that, which just feels like emptiness cause neither side showed any real skill.

There's so many perks that have so much potential to be something but they serve no purpose. Like Territorial imperative sounds cool but its so niche. I mean the recent perk buffs were needed and are great just hopefully there'll be more changes to perks that have no use or little to no value

@redscratch585

10 ай бұрын

Territorial Imperative is pretty bad... I've caught more trespassing survivors with Nowhere To Hide than TI has ever shown me. It's so bad they could double it's power (say you add an inverted effect, "Whilst in the basement, the killer can see the auras of all survivors over 24ms away") and it'd still be rejected by most killers. It'd be nice for Basement Bubba though.

@michellerahe4853

10 ай бұрын

@@redscratch585 Definitely or make it to where if people leave basement everyone becomes exposed for like 80 seconds so that way it punishes people for entering basement plus I mean if they won't fully rework it and it'll still be a basement use then it'll still probably only get use MAYBE once a game

@XenoVT

10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't even consider it niche, TI is straight usless.

@redscratch585

10 ай бұрын

@@michellerahe4853 lol 80 second team Expose would be a worryingly strong, but I like the idea in general. Maybe a 60 second Expose for the trespasser would be a little more even handed, but still maybe too strong for a basement killer. Then again, maybe it'd teach survivor mains to fear the basement again.

@michellerahe4853

10 ай бұрын

@@XenoVT exactly. Just like the 30 other outdated perks in the game between the killer and survivor side of things

Otz face after the pallet save 😂

Otz you aren't alone i too had bad hooks on the game as clown but at 1 gen managed to clutch at least 3 kills

survs can run multiple second chance perks, but killers can also run 4 slowdown perks which make doing gens feel absolutely horrific, they can also tunnel people out to force a 1v3 and make 1 person feel helpless as they get hooked 3 times in a row, they can hook camp to guarantee they get a kill or a trade for a free hook state, they can 3 gen to make a game last an hour, list goes on. i get that survivors have unhealthy strats as well, but its good to note that both sides can do absolutely horrible shit to the other, and bully swfs are a minority, soloq'ers who get tunnelled every 1 in 3 games arent.

Honestly I cant wrap my head around why the devs have just been mass-buffing survivor the last year. Killer was finally starting to be on an equal playing field, but I guess the low-skill survivor part of the playerbase managed to complain enough to cause this. Killer might actually be in the worst state its ever been. It's even more frustrating cause the devs have been doing it sneakily with categorizing nerfs as buffs and hiding obvious survivor buffs as QoL features. Not to mention the absolute blatant disregard for balance by adding Dead Hard 2.0 (MfT) to the game when DH finally became a balanced perk. What a joke. Survivor was already piss easy as it was (even in SoloQ). Now with all of this, I can play with my eyes closed.

Game looks pretty fun for killers as per usual!

It's a rainy day here where I live and this video fits the mood quite well.

"This is DbD right now" pretty much sums it up for me.